to find enough common ground to pass a social spending bill before the midterm season. >> we begin this hour with nbc news correspondent heidi business bella and gary grum baugh on capitol hill. the white house trying to turn momentum here and approval ratings, also. could this help him do that? >> reporter: for sure, lindsey, the president calling it a blue collar blueprint to rebuilding america. the scope of it is similar to the interstate highway system back in the 1950s. it's going to be a major investment definitely expected to help businesses, deliveries and commuting easier. the second part is equally as important, guys. this is the part that is going to help women work outside the home. we all know women are an important part of the workforce. overall, some of the investment houses that are looking at this, economic forecasters rather, expected to add .4% in 2022. those are the two systems combined. here is the president. >> we took a mon mental step forward. we learned our economy created 5.6 million jobs since we took office january 20th. unemployment rate of 4.6%, two full years earlier than the vast majority of economists projected that would happen, and we're just getting started. we did something that's long overdue, that long has been talked about in washington, but never actually been done. >> reporter: and the president and the white house hoping that americans will feel the impact of this within the next two to three months as we get shovels in the ground on this infrastructure piece. but guys, this was really important timing coming as the president is experiencing flaulg approval ratings coming as the president's party had a major loss in the bellwether state of virginia, a state he won by ten percentage points. they just held on in ]. as well. democrats both on the hill and at the white house realizing they needed to really put the pedal down here and get this done quickly. >> gary, to you, we know about the timeline for the social spending bill and negotiations on the hill. what do we know about it? >> the build back better bill is the human infrastructure part. we're talking about child care, paid family leave, provisions related to the environment. as we remember on friday, the house needs to pass this full bill first. that was basically a permission slip for the house to actually have that full bill there. then it has to go to the senate where the parliamentarian has to make sure it follows all the senate rules. then the senate has to fully vote on it. then it comes back to the house for a full vote in the house before it reaches the president's desk. none of this can start before november 15th because congress is out of town, back in their ohm districts this following week. this sounds like an advanced version of "school house rock," when you add in senator manchin and senator sinema who have objections to parts of this bill. here is what representative jayapal had to say yesterday about the negotiations within the democratic party. >> we worked this out on our own. the president, of course, helped and was really important to that discussion, but really this was about can we look each other in the eye and start to re-establish trust? because that is going to be essential for everything else we need to do. >> reporter: the build back better act is not the only thing on congress's agenda when they get back on november 15th. they've got to fund the government, raise the debt ceiling, pass the ndaa, all before the end of the year, kendis. >> gary, i want to throw another one to heidi. another big topic, the president's vaccine mandate for companies. it's now on temporary hold because of a federal appeals court ruling. what's the latest there? >> this was a circuit court of three gop-relatted judges. they're not ruling on the merits. but this is a setback. they wrote there's cause to believe there are great stats tore and constitutional issues with the mandate. the justice department has until monday at 5:00 to respond. some legal experts, lindsey, are saying they're very surprised this happened because there really is not an urgency to act here given that this mandate was not supposed to take effect until january 4th. it's not a mandate for vaccines. it's get a vaccine or test. the administration says they're confident in their authority to act and issue new rules where there's grave danger posed to american workers. they say that is certainly the case with covid, and they say there's also strong legal precedent including with the supreme court going all the way back to 1905 when the court ruled that mandatory vaccinations for smallpox are legal. guys. >> gary grumbach, heidi przybilla, thank you. this morning we're happy to welcome back michigan congresswoman debbie dingell. i posed a tricky question to anybody from michigan, especially a congresswoman from the greater detroit area. here is a clip. >> what's going to happen first, an infrastructure bill or the detroit lions will finally win? >> you know, the infrastructure bill might come first, but i love my detroit lions. you can't not love the detroit lions. >> you have no mercy for people from michigan on this show. >> the congresswoman is still nice enough to come back after all of that. the detroit lions are 0-8. they can't lose today because it's a bye week. congresswoman do you care to make a prediction about the build back better agenda? who will win first, the democrats or the lions? >> i hate to tell you. i'm sort of hoping that this would be good luck for the lions to win, but i bet we pass build back better the week of the 15th. depressing, because i do love my detroit lions. >> i know you do. it is a reality. >> congresswoman, you're projecting confidence for build back better. the house is taking a week off. then you'll bring it up again. is your caucus feeling the pressure of getting this passed by christmas? >> well, i want to be really clear. we need to get this bill done the week of the 15th, and we will get it done the week of the 15th. then it will go to the senate. you heard about the machinations. we may all be spending christmas together with each other, but we've got to get this done. the senate will be the senate and the bill goes back over there. these have been long months. people have talked to each other, respected each other, lots of different opinions. we are at a point where we have to deliver for the american people. i think pramila talked yesterday about learning to trust each other again. i think people do have to do that. our values are shared. look, this was a really long, hard, tough week, lots of tough discussion, but we needed to get the bill done, we needed to get the bipartisan infrastructure bill done because it's going to make such a difference across this country. what's in the build back better is equally as important on some of the issues you discussed but a lot nor is in there and critical. >> i want to read a tweet from bill krystal. he says, so infrastructure passed, employment and wages are up, kids are getting vaccinated and adults are getting boosted. shouldn't democrats make sure we hear a lot about these for the rest of this year? if fights about bbb would be a distraction, put it on the back burner. do you agree with what he's saying? of course, he tags joe manchin and kyrsten sinema in that. do you agree with that? >> totally agree with that. manchin called me a queen of passion. you love to call us a circular firing squad, but we're not. we got it done. we need to talk about what got done in the american recovery act. we're going into thanksgiving right now. remember what it was like at thanksgiving a year ago, nobody could see their families. grandparents hadn't met their grandchildren. this thanksgiving we're going to be able to be with our families and friends. we'll have to use common sense. look at the difference. that came from the american recovery act. we are getting vaccinations in people's arms. now we have to talk about how we're going to fix those roads. yesterday, first thing that happened, unfortunately, stepped into a pothole. you could hear the collective gasp of everybody. i said this is what we did last night, we're going to fix this internet. we're going to get the lead out of pipes across the country. we need to talk about it, talk about it, talk about it. >> i hope you're okay after that mishap with the pothole. >> i'm here. >> you are. we appreciate it. so good to talk to you and putting up with kendis' teasing. >> prayers an thoughts for the detroit lions. >> we are going to get there. we've got the infrastructure -- >> and michigan. michigan won yesterday. we're going to go to the rose bowl. >> look at that. that's not a prediction. i'm praying. >> somehow nancy called here the queen of passion. i don't know how. congresswoman, thank you, appreciate your time. we're going to go to houston next and travis scott, the rapper and headliner and creator of that music festival that turned deadly is speaking out for the first time about the texas tragedy. >> we're learning new details about some of the victims and the horrifying reports of an unwitting drug injection. you're watching "msnbc reports." e scene when every second counts... or teaching biology without a lab. we are the leader in 5g and a partner who delivers exceptional customer support and 5g included in every plan. so, you get it all, without trade-offs. unconventional thinking, it's better for business. wealth is breaking ground on your biggest project yet. worth is giving the people who build it a solid foundation. wealth is shutting down the office for mike's retirement party. worth is giving the employee who spent half his life with you, the party of a lifetime. wealth is watching your business grow. worth is watching your employees grow with it. principal. for all it's worth. we're making the fagioli! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ this looks great. awesome. alright. thank you! what... what recipe did you use? 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>> reporter: investigators are going to get to one central question, what smashed this crowd to surge? how is it that eight people died in this mass casualty disaster. event organizers say they were prepared, ems on scene before the event began. they sai they upped security to try to get ahead of some of these things that happened at these events. unfortunately this year the crowds were dense and people were describing conditions that were self caught egg. they were seeing people go down in need of treatment and there was no way to get to them when crowds were so, so deep. another thing investigators brought up yesterday were the ages of the victims. we learned the youngest victim was 14 years old. all eight victims under the age of 30. travis scott has an incredible, popular following among young people. that's evident in these ages as well. another incident that they're investigating, part of a homicide and narcotics investigation into that security guard that allegedly was stuck in the neck with a sir ving, went down and had to be revived by narcan. investigators are wondering is that a singular incident or could it have happened to more victims at the concert. here is sound from one ems worker who told me what the conditions were like there. >> after the stampede, we had multiple calls for people injured. early numbers show we transported 12 with 11 of those very critical. we had over 50 units on location which is unprecedented for an event like that. most of those units remained on scene and treated many of what we call walking wounded. we had medics here until close to 6:00 in the morning. >> reporter: now, one of the victims that he is referencing is a 10-year-old boy who remains in critical condition in the hospital. lots of mourning going on in houston. as you can see, a makeshift memorial behind me. folks arriving this morning putting flowers and candles out to try to remember these victims and to try to understand exactly how this happened. guys. >> catie, what can you tell us about security here when it comes to previous astroworld events? >> reporter: at previous astroworld events there has been disorder and disruption, people taking down fences, knocking over barricades. that's why police say they've upped the game in terms of security and site plans. they felt they had more manpower at this event than any previous one in the past to try and get ahead of this, to prevent things like this from happening. i think they were completely taken by surprise that this became the mass casualty event that it was. they felt they were pretty well prepared and had crossed off all of their permitting, had done all the security checks, had put people in place and really upped the game in previous events where there were some incidents similar and disruption. >> catie beck joining us from houston, texas, with the latest on that tragedy. every day, a new revelation in that. thank you. packers quarterback aaron rodgers will sit out of tonight's game after testing positive for covid, but the controversy surrounding his misleading vaccination claim. >> our next guest says athletes are especially susceptible to medical quakery. why does he say that? 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>> the most professional athletes are overwhelmingly vaccinated for covid-19. the rates in the nfl and nba hover around 95%. but when i heard about the method by which rodgers had decided not to get vaccinated, which is to say, pursuing an odd homeopathic alternative treatment instead of just getting a shot like a normal person, what it reminded me of is the sort of long tale of history of athletes who sort of submit themselves to strange procedures to increase their performance. jim galvin back in the late 19th century, a pitcher, known as pud because his fastball would turn his batters into pudding. he slowed down over time like you do. it is desperation, a hormone treatment being conducted by charles edward siquard, a french american neurologist who came up with this sort of concoction, i suppose, that was made out of dog and guinea pig testicles. >> are we allowed to say that on our air at 7:28. let's just stop you right there. i want to ask you, clearly you've done some extensive research on this. how do you think this will potentially impact rodgers long term? >> apparently it will make it so he can't be sponsored by any health companies. i think it probably -- i always thought of rodgers as sort of like a rational guy, or even a particularly rational guy. i think that maybe now this has happened that people might associate him with woo-oo a little more. the quarantine will be over stupid. it's stupid that he willingly missed a game because he wouldn't get vaccinated he'll be a guy people make fun of. that's what happens when you do something goofy. >> is there something to be said for privilege. jemele hill points out in "the atlantic" that rodgers, unlike other sports stars, made a conscious decision not to tell the truth, he assumed he could get away with breaking the rules because he's such a big star, but he should be punished for putting others at risk. do you agree? how do you think the league is going to handle this? >> well, i don't know. it should be noted he didn't not tell the truth. he told a version of the truth -- >> he was asked are you vaccinated and the first word out of his mouth was, yeah, i'm immunized. >> no. what he said was he's inoculated. he's referring to the woo-oo homeopathic treatment. he said, yeah, i'm immunized. the first word out of his mouth was "yeah." >> immunized. that's not technically a lie because he thought he was immunized because of this weird procedure he underwent. i don't know. i don't think the nfl is going to punish him because they knew he wasn't vaccinated and they were mostly doing all the stuff that -- that were required of an unvaccinated player. i don't know. that's why i answered, kwpg i don't know. >> your energy never ceases to amaze he. it's 4:30 a.m. your time. we'll have you back on to give the show a little jolt. >> thanks. i'm happy to hear. >> thanks, corbin. a lot of people are wondering -- >>hysterical. >> what did he drink? 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>> well, the '90s, of course, trump and jfk jr. had been seen in magazines and photos together, but online it really picked up in 2018 as qanon, the conspiracy group started to talk to each other. there was this idea that jfk jr. was still alive, perhaps still in hiding. maybe joe biden was lee harvey oswald, and over time, the conspiracy, like a choose your own adventure when we were kids, it would evolve online and people would be able to tell different parts of the story. these things got weaved together and someone called for this day where they believed he would show up to complete the ride, which i think is pretty sinister. >> yeah, they haven't left. they were at daley plaza just yesterday. many may be back. q himself, by the way, dismissed the theory and yet followers were out by the hundreds waiting for a dead man to reappear. what does this tell you about the movement and really where it's going? >> many movements are comprised of numerous factions. this faction of the movement tends to believe in this set of conspiracy series that not just jfk, but mlk, kobe bryant, tupac are all living and they'll reveal their usefulness in time as they come back to support trump. it is telling that there is a large faction of people that are willing to spend their own resources to come out in public and be seen in this way, no masks. this is their identities. what's really -- if you watch the content from what they're producing, there's quite a bit of anti-semitism involved and there's a lot of talk about -- same old tropes about jewish people controlling media and controlling the world. >> the dangerous thing about that -- yes, you have that group out there, but you might have a lone wolf. we've had instances of that in the past where there are people who actually believe this stuff and will go out and act upon it. >> there's precedent in this movement with pizza-gate, this theory that qanon had developed out of pizza-gate. there was a shutdown at the hoover dam where a trucker blocked the road to get trump to tell him what was going on with q. we do see that happening. we have to be very wary and mindful that this group is also mixing in with militia groups online and second amendment advocates. it can be triggering for someone. >> i have to run because i have like ten seconds. is it a cult? 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what can we expect? we heard southwest, american, they are having issues with getting planes in the air. why are we seeing this? what do you think will happen in the future? >> let's be clear, these things are related. this is all based on conflicting communication from leadership around the country. people have not known what to believe about this pandemic, how we get it under control and what we need to do together to be safe. there was not, from the beginning, an effort to pull the nation together like we normally would in time of crisis. instead, it's about tearing people apart. we are seeing that on our planes. we see that play out on our planes. often the reactions are over instructions on masks. tease other safety rules as well. this is a result of what happened in the late 2000s after 9/11 with all of the airline bankruptcies. they drove worker productivity through the work. in those airline bankruptcies, they cut back. we lift the cap on how much people can fly. they were getting by on overtime, now people are saying it's dangerous to go to work -- i will maybe not pick up that additional trip. >> the ceo of delta is saying that the change in travel restrictions for international visitors will cause a surge at airports. he also said it's going to get sloppy at first, especially when it comes to verifying documents and covid tests. what are airlines doing to prevent that chaos? >> airlines have been pushing for this for a long time because we're not going to recover the airline industry until we have international travel back. it accounts for half of the revenue of what we had before in the airline industry. this is actually a really good move. but we are not prepared as a country to handle the checking of documents. it could be a slowdown. the airlines have been working on their own apps on improving the ability to upload documents and make this a more seamless process. they have been doing that over the past 12 months because they have been working hard to bring this travel back understanding that until we have that, we're not really going to be in a place to recover. >> understood. >> sara, people who are going away for thanksgiving, for christmas, what should they do when they get ready to go to the airport and board that plane? >> thank you so much. pack their patience. pack an empty bag so you don't pack a prohibited item, slow yourself down and security and slow down everyone else and make it more of an awful process for you. come a little early so that you are not feeling that rush and you are not having your temperature build up and up. think about whether or not you want to have that drink in the airport. alcohol does affect you in a very different way up in the air pressurized to 8,000 feet. you don't want to make bad decisions and act out. you want to follow rules. think about being a helper. the flight attendants have been very stressed, have had to deal with full planes. there has been a small but persistent group who have been acting out. it's helpful when you create that spirit of kindness. we would encourage travellers to come with that as well. >> those pilots and flight attendants are away from their families. thanks so much. on your marks. we are about an hour away from the start of the new york city marathon. >> it's returning after the pandemic forced the cancellation last year. capped at 30,000 runners this year, down 20,000 runners from 2019. >> steven romo has more from the race. are you seeing any racers out yet? >> reporter: there are people out warming up. the streets are closed. the excitement is building. so much excitement for this. as you mentioned, last year the marathon was canceled due to covid. there are changes in place. runners will be asked to wear masks at the start and finish. there's more waves of people running to keep people spaced out. businesses are happy that this is back in gear. there are lots of charities who are also, of course, happy. so much of what goes on here is done to help charities. >> it's a huge part of our race. we have over 490 charities running with. we raise hundreds of millions of dollars. our race has enabled the charities to race that much money for causes. it's a special and important part of our race by giving that platform for people to set goals for themselves but also to work towards helping a cause that's important to them as well. >> reporter: such an important aspect of the marathon. they start in half an hour at 8:30. of course, we will bring you all the updates on what goes on. >> they have made quite a move, some changes to make sure that it is covid safe, from security as well. the weather is cooperating as well for this big race. steven romo -- >> reporter: it seems like it. it's cool out here. >> runners will have it there. better than me. steven romo joining us from the city. appreciate it. thank you for watching. >> we will see you back here next weekend at 6:00 a.m. eastern time. "velshi" starts right now. ♪♪ the latest on the congressional investigation into the january 6th insurrection after the chair of the committee says he is about to issue some 20 subpoenas. new reporting hints at what might be about to get served there are now more states suing the biden administration over its vaccine requirement than states that aren't suing. how the requirement was temporarily blocked amid a wave of lawsuits and what biden's next move might be. what could be a breakthrough in policing. i will talk to a philippoussis -- a philly council member that bans minor traffic stops. good morning. there may be a new wave of subpoenas from the house select committee investigating january 6. the committee presses forward with its probe into the deadly attack on the nation's capitol. the chairman, bennie thompson, says he signed 20 subpoenas so far but hasn't specified who may be served with them beyond this somewhat cryptic description he gave reporters. >> who is in the next batch? >> well, some of the people that have been written about, some of the people who haven't been written about. you know, we're just doing our body of work. >> as the committee continues its investigation, it's reportedly zeroing in on a number of individuals connected to the so-called war room at the willard hotel. that's where some of the ex-president's cronies plotted to keep him in office in the days leading up to the attack. among that group, they want to hear from john eastman, a lawyer and loyalist, who helped draft a strategy to overthrow biden's win. eastman is in the committee's cross hairs after it emerged he outlined possible strategies for overturning the election in a