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about prosecutions. the spotlight will be on the january six committee, as we enter next week, tuesday evening they vote on a report recommending to the full house that steve bannon be cited for criminal contempt of congress. that begins a long process in and of itself. earlier on this network betsy woodruff swan of politico described but will go into that report. >> before they take the report, i believe this report will be public, and the reports going to lay out the case against bannon. when the committee wants from him, the steps they took to try to get him to cooperate voluntarily. his defiance of the requests and demands for information. and finally, language for a house resolution but the committee will vote on, holding bannon in contempt. >> as days congressional investigation begins momentum, there are new developments on the criminal prosecutions related to that riot, and insurrection. u.s. capitol police officer michael riley, a 25 year veteran of the force, has been charged with trying to help protect one rioter who is charged with illegally entering the capitol during the one sixth attack. a grand jury indictment says officer wylie repeatedly told this man on facebook, to get rid of all social media that would prove he had ever entered the capitol. officer riley has been placed on leave, and is facing obstruction of justice charges. today, the capitol police union head issued a statement that read in part, we need to wade into all of the facts of the case are known and this officer has been given the opportunity to defend himself. >> meantime, president biden making his case to the public, for the infrastructure and social safety net and climate bills at the heart of his domestic agenda. he spent much of the day in connecticut, talking up both proposals, behind the scenes biden is trying to broker a deal to bring democrats together to support these bills. it's democrats holding them up, after all. new york times report, that biden's plan to replace fossil fuels with clean energy will probably be dropped because of opposition from, senator joe manchin of west virginia, which happens to be -- meanwhile the nation's 42nd president remains hospitalized tonight, bill clinton admitted to the university of california, irvine medical center tuesday evening last night, for non covid related infection. spokesman said he is receiving antibiotics and his good spirits. president joe biden spoke to bill kind of iphone last night. >> i want to see how he's gaining, i wanted to get a hold of, am he's doing fine, he's really is. he was really encouraging. >> this was also the day the fda's vaccine advisory panel unanimously voted to recommend j&j booster shots. they said people 18 and up who receive the single dose j&j vaccine, should get their second dose at least two months after the first shot. that's a lot of people, they issue no recommendation on issue unmixing bands of vaccine, that was kind of expected. this all comes as new cdc data is showing that those who are unvaccinated have 11 times more likely to die from then fully vaccinated people. as for the restrictions, keeping foreign nationals out of our country because of covid today. the white house said that those who are fully vaccinated can reenter the country starting november 8th. all of this as the white house is moving on another fronts, escalating its efforts to protect abortion rights. justice department says it will ask the u.s. supreme court to effectively block enforcement of that restrictive texas abortion law, well the legal challenges pan out. with that, let's bring our starting lineup on a friday night, susan page veteran journalist and author of washington bureau shave, cynthia ochsner former federal prosecutor in the civil rights to vision of the justice department, and doctor irwin red lynn, founder of the columbia center for disaster preparedness, and albert einstein coverage of medicine. good evening, welcome to you all, and susan because you cover all of washington, i'd like to begin with you please. please critique the process and performance, as much as you're willing to do, that's far, of this one six committee, and do you fear expectations are going to be exceed reality on cases like bannon, where the reality is we're looking at months if not years. >> i think the january six committee is doing anything we can think of to do to get this investigation going. but it's hard when you have the former president claiming executive privilege for someone -- it's not a claim that most legal scholars think up much standing. the idea of voting criminal contempt charges, or recommendation, it is intended to set aside a pretty tough message from the committee, but as you say this is entirely possible to get wrapped up in court challenges, and delaying tactics by steve bannon and by others, in the hopes that they can just run out the clock until republicans win control of the house of representatives in next year's midterm elections, if it does, that which many republicans expect it will. cynthia, same topic, one six committee, one of their members goes on our air earlier tonight, i want to run this brief snippet will discuss on the other side. >> our goal isn't to be punitive, our goal is to get testimony. but if something isn't gonna give testimony, we're going to use every tool available. >> of course cynthia, you have, that twitchell lot of rabbit democrats say let's get punitive here. what is likely to happen when some or all of this lands at the doorstep of merrick garland's doj? >> when it finally gets there, it certainly moving at a snail's pace, they're going to vote, and i read a report -- they hope to have the report on contempt before thanksgiving. i don't know why they're waiting so long. and then it gets to mayor garland, and he's got to make the decision about what to do. let's today he decides to go forward, which is what he should do. but that means it's gotta go to the grand jury, doesn't take very long. but then there has to be an arrest, there has to mean arraignments. ends, there will be a long discovery process. you've got to get yourself on dockets in the bc courts, and the d.c. courts are moving quickly right now. so the idea that they could wrap up this investigation this ring like they say they're going to do, and have bannon's testimony by then's fantasy. they're not going to, he's going to stall, and they're going to succeed to stall until after the midterms. if the democrats lose the house, we might always throughout time. >> okay, that's a lot, doctor some nights it actually feels preferable to discuss the pandemic over politics. let's go there, today the recommendation on j&j boosters was expected, but it was also expected they would say or do something on brand mixing, which we kind of know anecdotally are people are already doing on the real market, every day. our people left to their own on this front, dr.? >> well, they are not really left to their own, because the recommendations have not been given. so, in a certain sense, you might say they might just try to get a different vaccine as the booster. but, the reality is, we really prefer people to wait until the process is completed. right now, only the fda by very committee has made some recommendations about the booster shots from moderna and j and j, -- then the cdc advisory committee, all of that is not important to the public except to say, that there is still answers that are pending. by the way, the issue of going from politics to covid, if only that were entirely true. we have far too many politics infiltrating the a public health discussions around covid. the fact of the matter is, we're still waiting for more data for some more definitive conclusions, brian. >> susan, back to you, and the dreaded subject of politics, pelosi and the white house have made this new deadline of halloween to get these negotiations done. have you any reporting on negotiations, enough to know that there is a measurable chance of even kicking that that aligned on the road? >> i don't think there's anything that makes that deadline hard and fast. and we know that, generally, congress will take as much time as a possibly can to get something done. so, it's not impossible that it will be the deadline, but i would not be betting on the idea that that's gonna happen. in a way, it's a little surprising, because we know pretty much the general contours of where congress is going to end up. we think about two trillion dollars, funding some programs were not all of them. big development on the climate provision of the package. but it's not really rocket science to figure out the trade-offs democrats will have to make to hold themselves together. it's taking a long time for them to do that, there's a lot of frustration at the weather house. and there is frustration with the white house. -- in pushing democrats to get going on. this >> of course susan, you concede, and they would to, the pushing democrats still every conversation comes back to manchin and sinema. >> yeah, that's exactly right, and that's one reason the climate change provisions are going to be so problematic. because on that it really as manchin, and the rest of the caucus there are as many number of progressives on the caucus, for whom the most important part, the most crucial for us to do. so i think that could be the hardest nut to crack in this only go she asian. >> cynthia, let's talk about the law specifically, specifically abortion rights. so the doj, if i have this right is going to ask the supreme courts to rule against the texas law. what does that mean, what could also happen at the supreme court level at the same time? >> well, nothing good. i don't know how else to say it, nothing good. the department of justice is going to do, is they're saying, let's just hope on this lot, and wait until it goes through the process. let's put the stain effect that the federal judge in texas has put into effect, until we could litigate whether or not violates the constitution. the appellate court in texas said, no, we're gonna let the law move forward then will litigate it. justices coming in and trying to go back to the district courts and say, no, let's halt it. the problem is when you go to the supreme court, it's the same supreme court that left this law move forward in the first place. and not only let it go for it, they were kind of sneaky about it, they didn't even have the guts to do with their are doing. they kind of went on on process grounds, they didn't even bother to mention that there are budding roe v. wade for the women in texas. i don't see how the outcome is going to be any good. either they're going to just say, we'll just hold it and hope it stays, or they're gonna say let's wrap it up with the dog's case, it's going to be happening in december one is going to argue. but in that case, it looks like they're going to get roe v. wade. , heads you lose, tells you loose. cynthia >> cynthia, i lost your audio for a second. does roberts want your court to be known for. this >> no, i think roberts once a court the believes in sorry to isis, which is the philosophy [inaudible] the constitution as it's written. he decided the law is a particular thing, when the next case comes along and we support that and build on it. what's happened is is this is not the roberts court anymore, we've tilted to the right. and there is no, star oreo just isis's great along with thomas agrees with it that row should be weighed should be overturned. i don't think roberts wants it, i think people that's why he voted with the liberal justices on the texas cased. but he's not in the majority in that. the republicans have said they were going to overturn roe v. wade, they said they were going to appoint justices that wanted to, and now they have the majority of the justice, we are set to face that, that's what's happened. >> doctor redlener, over to medicine we go. it is flu shot season, an increasing talk about widening the population of people who can get boosters. can they be delivered together, is there any danger of that? >> most people in the field, brian, think it's safe to give the two shots to give in proximity to one another. certainly, i'm of that belief as well, and i think that's going to be what's recommended. >> and finally, as a pediatrician, watching the mask debates going on around the country, the cdc study in arizona, that it covid outbreak was three and a half times greater at a school where kids aren't required to wear masks. i am certain you are undergoing a certain amount of frustration as an observer. >> you know, it's absolutely mind-boggling that there are people putting up a fight against masking children, who are essentially still ineligible to get vaccinated. so we are very limited in the tools we have to protect, kids and the people there in contact with, and there is just a new study pointing out that even infants, as well as young children can carry high viral loads in their nasal pharynx, and they are susceptible. you know, we have no 25% of reported cases are in children, and it's just unconscionable that there are people resisting mask wearing, giving all the data in favor of using masks, and certainly using masks if you can't get vaccinated, brian. >> such as the life we're living and, our politics presently in 2021. how to put, this is a journalist a, lawyer and, dr. walk into a bar. and we're so happy they all didn't. great thanks to our starting law tonight, doctor irwin red liner thanks for spending part of our friday night with us. coming up, for us the president concedes there will be compromise before he can build back better. two seasoned political observers standing by to talk with us on the chances of that happening. and later, the republican party and those in it, are under the control of one man who tried to stay in office and overturn his own defeat. nothing about it is normal, which is 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built the recycling system from the ground up, helping san francisco become the first city in the country to have a universal recycling and composting program for residents and businesses. but it all starts with you. let's keep making a differene together. i'm convinced we're going to get it done, we're not going to get 3.5 trillion dollars, we're going to get less than that, but we're gonna get it. and we're gonna come back and get the rest. >> president biden, acknowledging the obvious today, yet also sounding an optimistic note on his build back better agenda, on where the negotiations stand, however, the hill tells a story this way. after one-on-one meetings between the president, manchin, and sinema, democrats don't seem any closer to a greening on a framework than a month ago. and so it goes. and here to talk more about it, two friends of this broadcast, victoria defrancesco soto, and professor and assistant dean at the lbj school of public affairs, university of texas, austin, and bill crystal -- importantly editor at large over the bulwark. thank you for coming out, both of you, welcome, bill, i'd like to start with you. critique two things for me, how is biden selling the agenda, and how has the sales effort been with the ultimate customers, the american people, the messenger. >> i think, not as well as they could've done with the biden administration and the democratic party as a whole. it doesn't kind of -- sense of the sales cut. or even president obama with the abawi care, but certainly they made the keys to the american people. i thought it was quite revealing, president biden saying we can't quite get the 3.5 trillion dollars, but will come close, and get the rest. i mean that number is the one thing people know about the bill. my colleague sarah long while has done a couple of focus groups on democrats, people who voted for biden the last couple of weeks. the pretty lukewarm up at the bill, at least the swing-ish voters, they're kind of like 3.5 trillion sounds like a lot of money. those democrats all they want to do is -- they don't really know what the bill is for. the democrats and the administration, i think it always described it as a child care bill, this is a health care bill, this is an education bill, they do that sort of but it's not the lead item. and the build back better, i don't know, what does that mean. called the health education will fill bill, and then really sell, i don't think there's much pressure as a result, there's no pressure on the republicans, and how much pressure on manchin and sinema to come around faster than they have. >> so, professor, over to you, this joe manchin who has now been mentioned it's 23 after the hour, we've mentioned his name five times. his direct tractors say that's fine with him, this is a spiders ox exterior, but one such joe manchin of west virginia, has virtually cleaned out all the green energy provisions, there were so important to biden, and so important to democrats on the left. does this make him, because we in the medium need labels, the most powerful man in washington? >> it's pretty darn close, brian, i mean just the way our institutions are set up, right. folks may not like it, but at the end of the day, congress puts the check on the executive branch, and the fact that the president can't just get his agenda through, regardless of having the majority or not in congress, is a fact. so manchin holds so much power, and the other reason you hold so much power, and more so than kyrsten sinema, and we usually talk about them both in the same sentence. is the fact that his base of support in west virginia, it is quite stable. sinema, on the other hand, if you dig into the numbers, if you dig into arizona politics, it's a lot shakier. so i think of anybody's going to blink, in terms of senate democrats, it's going to be sinema, since the beginning of the year i was looking back at the polls, her approval rating among democrats in arizona, has gone up by more than 20% from january to october. she has folks who are already running to run against her, joe manchin is sitting pretty, he's got a lot of support at home, and he knows he has that power to work with. >> bill, you made such a good point that if people know anything about this bill, they've heard the price tag, they haven't heard about the deliverables. a related question, how much time have they got to do this, really? >> it's a good question, brian, they passed with 16 seven 69 votes, i think apart partisan margin the infrastructure bill, but then cut some internal party bargaining, got held up in the house. so president biden has neither. he had a bipartisan bill in the senate for the last controversial bill, he doesn't have that to tout as a success at this point. they have time, technically, these things can be passed one over the past. i don't think his support is holding okay, is drifting down, but he's not in some terrible situation. so he has time to get out under it. all these focus groups, people don't have a sense of the clear message. i mean they're focused on covid, and they've done a decent job and say, and have a pretty clear message on that, mandates, vaccines, not so good on testing i think. the kids, i think, the economy is pretty good, for all the worries about inflation. he's not getting much credit, it seems, just from voters, for a pretty decent performance on the pandemic and economy, because all the public knows that they're all doing on the hill, i can follow very well either. anyway, nothing is getting signed, it's a tax increase, lots of money. >> bill, i keep meeting to tell you, i listen to those podcast with sarah long will, and we've also heard your voice and those focus groups are sometimes incredibly scary, always interesting to listen to, especially at this point of time, as you reference. both of our guests have agreed to stick around, we have to fit a break-in, coming up when we continue our conversation, whether it's voter turnout where he is in virginia, or abortion rights in texas, it's been yet another week proving the immortal wars of tipper o'neill, all politics is local. we'll talk about when we come back. com back back it's a sunny day. nah, a stormy day. classical music plays. um uh, brass band, new orleans. ♪ ♪ she drives hands free... along the coast. make it palm springs. ♪ cadillac is going electric. if you want to be bold, you have to go off-script. experience the all-electric cadillac lyriq. it's sleep number's fall sale on the sleep number 360 smart bed. if yit helps keep youd, effortlessly comfortable by sensing your movements and automatically responding to both of you. and, it's temperature balancing to help you stay comfortable all night. it even tracks your circadian rhythm, so you know when you're at your best. in other words, it's the most energy-building, wellness-boosting, parent-powering, proven quality night's sleep we've ever made. don't miss our weekend special. save up to $800 on sleep number 360 smart beds. the key is, that we need to plus, 0% interest for 48 months on all smart beds. ends monday. have the tools of the federal law to stop this kind of siege across america, and it will occur. if they can't get through the ballot box, if they can silence your voice in the ballot, box then they will attempt to silence you by writing you out. that is not a democratic republic, it is not democracy, and i don't think we can allow that to stand, not as a state but as a nation. >> to that end, charles glow had this to say about texas in his latest piece in the new york times and, we quote. when jim crow was originally established, it's spread from state to state like a contagion, each subsequent state taken lessons from the ones before it. mississippi was one of the states at the vanguard of the first jim crow, texas may well be at the vanguard of the next. indeed, still with us, our professor victoria defrancesco soda and bill crystal. professor, sadly in all the right ways, you're joining us from texas, and educating young minds there, we are going to begin the segment with you. so, we've all become familiar with the texas brand these days. making it tough for the vote, making it tougher to get an abortion, no mask no problem, no vaccine no problem. if you want to carry a gun, that's perfectly okay with us. is there any indication that this is going to be texas is leading export to other red states. >> absolutely, and we have seen it for hundreds of years, that state contagion that state charles blow talked about. for better or for worse, the states are laboratories of democracy, this is where you can fiddle with new policy, try it out, and other states are going to pick it up. in this case, to your point brian, we're staying states be laboratories of could curtailing democratic rights small democratic rights, which is so troubling. and one of the things that representative sheila jackson lee mentioned in her clip, was the issue of redistricting. and throughout the whole life of voter integrity bills, and voter restriction. i was never losing sight of reduced redistricting, because this really truly scared me. because, even in an ideal world, where we didn't have voter restrictions, where we were able to knock them down, i always knew that once we came into session, and to draw the maps, then latinos, african americans, communities of color would be important to drawn out. one important example of this, in texas the growth of the what we saw in texas, 90% of that growth was fueled by communities of color. the recent maps of the united states senate of texas, did not add one district of a majority minority. instead of that but we have seen is the practice of cracking, in suburbs of dallas, latino and asian entity being cracked. this is what's truly marry me, even if you have the right to vote you, not going to have a community of interest to really have that translated, and to me this is what's so worrisome, because it sticks for the very least in the next ten years. >> in fact, the graphic we showed as we went to last break, texas has already become a brand in the worst way. it's from, texas virginia. we reminding people to vote no member side of second. bill, i have a quote for you on the virginia race and politics a large. this is from the new york times, with former president trump out of our office, congressional democrats in a bitter standoff, in virginia democrats having claimed every bullet political prize, mr. mcauliffe is straining to motivate the liberal voters in his increasingly blue state. at the moment, when that is being watched closely above parties for clues about elections next year, he is bumping up against a thick teed electorate. bill, this isn't the first time i've heard this kind of new excuse on lower turnout, do you buy it? >> i don't think so, obviously we're not going to have the 2020 level turnout in off year governors election, as it's harder to vote earlier, there is a huge early voting opportunity, so easier to do the ballot boxes during the pandemic. it's adequate mail voting and early voting in virginia, but i think you are less likely to take advantage of it earlier, because a lot of people be going in the next two weeks. i think turnout will be decent, and i think democrats will be pretty soon motivated -- and just one word on texas, what's so striking about this for me, texas was not always this way. texas was if anything a rather moderate republican party, george w. bush was the governor of texas, he did education reform, appealed to latinos and got a pretty good share their vote. thoughtful guy, rick perry was the governor of texas, this presidential race didn't go so well, but he had a pretty liberal education policy, a liberal immigration policy, and he opened up access to the university of texas system. it was not a liberal state, it was not a liberal republican party, but nothing like this. it unfortunately was an accurate epitome of what is happened pretty quickly and pretty recently, the real problems in texans 15 or 20 years ago, but that did not seem like the way things were going, texas is now a shorthand that's very very revealing, and for anyone who cares about a older conservative kind of republicanism, very depressing. >> i agree, well it wasn't quite portlandia, it wasn't quite business at the either. to our guest tonight, press it faster victoria soto, and bill crystal, thanks for coming on and taking our questions. coming up for us, his organization argues it's time to choose, democracy or trump. because, they argue, you can't have both. rick wilson of the lincoln project, joins us live next. project, joins us live next. dog barks you're right bunker, the medicare enrollment deadline is almost here. if you're on medicare and you want to explore your options, the deadline to enroll is december 7th. so, you should act now. were do i find the right medicare plan? at healthmarkets, they search 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of the election that turned him out of office. the trump presidency is not yet, alas, simply a matter for booksellers and book writers, it's an active crime scene. so, back with us tonight, rick wilson, longtime republican strategist who has since left the party, he's the author of two of those books on the trump presidency, susan glasser was talking about, including the cofounder of the lincoln project. rick, i want to have you on, because of course follow you on social media, and i remember where i was when i read your thread about the one six committee, to which, and i quote. >> i have some bad news, after multiple calls, i have some extremely grim news. as of now the one six commission is dead already, and will not enforce the subpoenas. trump wins, the one six terror plot will go unexamined and punish. to say i'm livid is putting it mildly. this is staffed wrong, lead wrong, and i got this exercise to get back to talking about infrastructure. they're not taking the risk seriously, they're not taking the data before them seriously, and they're eager to run out the clock. livid. so rick, i don't mean to tell you, as soon as that went up, heads exploded, haircut fire simultaneously, toilet started flashing counterclockwise, the giants had a winning season, i'm just kidding about that last one. in real life, liz cheney put out a statement, the committee put out a statement. so they're saying dental school, you hit a nerve, have you been dissuaded at all from what you wrote, or do you still stand by it. >> let's say this, i believe their intentions are not bad we, i believe that my statement was correct, i don't think there are pursuing this with a degree of vigor that merits the kind of targets are talking about. we are dealing with people like steve bannon and roger stone, and alexander alexander, the specter of people on stop the steal. we are not, at this point, hearing from the committee that they're meeting regularly, they've had three months they've got almost a nothing. and the fact that they've got a few witnesses that are gonna kind of sort of sit down with them, is nothing until we hold to account people who are defying them. unless you put steve bannon in the hot seat, unless you put steve bannon in an orange jumpsuit, strip him of his polos, and put him in an orange jumpsuit and zip types, he's out the other night saying that trump will be reinstated. he's one of the architects and masterminds, of insurgency in this country. that needs a response, more than the kind of traditional washington, let's go slow, let's take it into incrementally. this requires a set of responses and policies from congress. they're already basically saying, we are going to wait until thanksgiving to have a vote on the house floor about referring stephen into the justice department. this man does damage every second he walks around in this country and they need to pick up the pace. i want them to prove me wrong, brian, i want them to say that wilson was just paranoid, and the people that we're talking to him they're exaggerating. but i'm not wrong. they will slow roll this thing, and bannon and company believe, and trans people all believe they can run out the clock, they can play this out until the very last dog dies. and they won't have any accountability. democrats must treat this how it should be treated, which is a counter-terrorism investigation. they've got to take this seriously. if this guys were in al-qaeda, they'd have james dropped on them, these guys were intent on overthrowing our government. >> so rick, i know you spent a long time, you've written about, this you thought about this, what is the problem. is it that, as i like to contend, the democrats tend to be culturally former student council presidents. and the republicans, of this era, are stone cold killer. >> there's a word that we can't use on plate television, but it rhymes with rats trucking, and they won't do it they, won't play the game, they won't get in here and use knives. they being a copy of proves to a gunfight, these people that they're running up against like bannon, they will put them against the wall. but they don't seem to have internalized is that people like steve bannon help to architects the attack on the capitol that by the grace of god did not end up with congressman being dragged from their officers and killed. because, if they found nancy pelosi or if they found even liz cheney, they would've killed them. we have to take this seriously, these are not people that are the old washington, these aren't the old days of ronald reagan into pro neil sharon beer, that is dead it's gone the, republican party right now is a sole source operation dedicated to donald trump and donald trump only. whatever electoral fantasies he has they can be translated into whatever direct action stephen in his people come up with, will be executed on. they should not think for a minute of this is over. as i like to say say unpunished who is a training exercise. >> so last question, i have about 60 seconds to give you. you don't see anyone with the courage to break out from the boot liquors? you don't see a individual republican willing to stand up and carry the banner as perhaps a new version of the party. >> i have enormous respect for wet lives cheney and adam kinzinger doing right now, and have a modicum of respect for the 30 or so other republicans who whispered meyer and other people's ears, are saying oh they're doing a great, job isn't wonderful weather trying to do. i can't, because in my district. courage was the first virtue, and unless someone has the courage to defy it, even at the cost of their job, then we're going to continue with this, because trump is a terrorist, he terrorizes republicans into submission. and the ones that have adopted the whole drum body eight those, they're going to keep doing whether doing. as trump does from the top of his calculus enterprise all the on down. >> our guest tonight has been rick wilson, rick will do this again, as i said i've been thinking about you since that day on twitter. rick wilson, our guest on a friday night. another break for us coming up, organize leader is getting organized, and they're getting the attention of employers. tens of thousands of american workers have walked off their jobs, in search of safer working conditions, shorter hours, higher wages, and among some are but now calling a strike to over, and more workers could be striking on picket lines. workers are feeling like they're working harder than ever and they've put themselves out there during covid and risk their lives for wet? nbc news correspondent erin mclaughlin has our story from los angeles, tonight. >> tonight, hollywood is on the brink of calling cuts. 15,000 hollywood workers threatened to strike, potentially halting production of your favorite series films and live shows. >> i'm not nervous, i'm excited. >> alleging the explosion of streaming, and the pandemic, has elevated an aggravated working conditions, bringing those behind the scenes to the breaking point. creating what is says are unsafe and harmful working hours, and unlivable wages. also noting a consistent failure to provide reasonable rest. >> they just expect us to continue working no matter the conditions, no matter how long we've been at it. now, hollywood heavyweights are speaking out in support of the workers. >> it's staggering, i mean the amount of abuse that i'm seeing. i've seen a lot of that. >> the alliance of motion picture and television producer, saying we deeply value the crew members and are committed to reaching the deal, it lions can -- anger over workers rights is hardly confined to hollywood. >> we're on the right side of history. >> from auto and agriculture, to health care workers. it's all part of a growing nation winds showdown between employees and employers. sparked in part, experts say, by the pandemic. now spilling onto the silver screen. if ongoing negotiations fall through thousands here in hollywood are set to join the picket line starting monday. >> thanks to erin maclachlan for that report from liz los angeles, coming up for us, the man who never came home from the coast of fat france. the families that were never the same, but would they make of those who are using that sacrifice to try to win a losing argument? try to win losing argument? people, with quickbooks live someone else will do your books for you. they'll even pair you with an expert bookkeeper like me, who knows your business. knows... your... business! expert bookkeepers who understand your business. intuit quickbooks live bookkeeping. last thing before we go tonight, it's friday so we figure each and on something humorous. we've psych to something produced by our friends over at the daily show, it's about people who weren't trying to be funny, but they simply have run out of other ways to cast doubt on the vaccine. >> my grandfathers both fought in world war ii, they fought and they took up arms against tyrannical governments. we now have to fight against a tyrannical government which is saying that you have to take these injections or you can't be involved in society. >> we took the beaches of normandy, are people. >> most people are going along with those because they're brave, a few brave souls or not. >> you have a lot of americans who say, listen, i'm going to inspire others to fight for freedom and liberty, and push back on these aggressive mandates. >> people are doing a phenomenal job standing up for what they believe. >> thanks so much for coming out with, us you are a hero. >> i do admire anyone who stands up for a principle. >> that's a principle that any american should hold dear. >> this is an american moment, thanks so much for coming on. >> we wish you all the best, thank you for all the work you do. >> this is kind of the beaches in normandy, this is our generations world war ii, but it's the world war three. >> doctor rick, this is wild. >> this is about the constitution, we have rights as individuals to do whatever we want, if it doesn't hurt anybody else. wewe the daily show with that standing mash-up, no fair they had great rahmat aerial to choose from. with that, that's our broadcast for this friday night, with our thanks for being there with us, have a good weekend unless you have other plans, on half of all of our colleagues at nbc news, goodnight. colleagues at nbc news, goodnight. >> she was full of energy, very attractive girl. she had that model look. she did not do anything through her teeth. all the string to twist this story took, now you know somebody who has been murdered, it was like nothing i had ever expected to happen. >> inside a gated community a harrowing discovery. >> there is a lady lane in the pool. >> she is completely gone? >> yes. >> i was looking for anything to stand out. >> the first focus, her sandal. >> tucked underneath the hose on the edge. >> it seemed obvious that this was staged. >> 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