wideproceeded? many other places, something we should keep in mind here. they are only growing more rabid in our country, includes on politicized turf like governor desantis' florida, where the governor has been attacking rules, dr. fauci and masks to protect children. context matters, you hear about this drama, but most people in that conservative state still support cdc measures. a vocal minority, though, is turning from virulent to violent. people making personal threats against school board officials, who are just trying to coop the schools safe, dealing from stalking to direct menacing threats of violence. >> i don't reject them standing outside my home, i reject them following me around, my car i reject that i need to beg for mercy. they're also going behind my home and brandishing my weapons to my neighbors. they're making false dcf claims against me to my daughter that i have to take an investigator to her playdate, to go underneath her clothing and check for burn marks? that's what i'm against. >> this is america right now. let me tell you the exact legal facts. under the law, people have every right to say and believe what they want and to protest about it. that includes the right to be wrong. it includes the right to believe things that are not even true. people do not have a right under the law to menace, to stalk, or to attack others for their words, for their beliefs, their rights. that's why the fbi has already confirmed it's on the case mulling prosecutions for people who do cross legal lines in this clash around our nation's schools, which is partly in response to disturbing incidents like this around the country. >> he wrote about his family not feeling safe, including an incident where a car sat running in front of his house late at night. [ chanting ] >> berated school members. >> this -- this is it. no, sir, this is illegal. >> they'll follow you, take movies of you, posting our addresses on social media. i had a woman try to run me off the highway at 70 miles an hour twice on friday night. the person cursed aim him and said i hope someone abuses your kids and forces you to watch. >> free speech is protected. attacking people is not. these kind of attacks are not coming out of nowhere right now. there are people on tv falsely claiming that following the mask guidance for children is itself some kind of abuse. this pushback feeds on that virulent opposition that i mentioned. it's part of why the u.s. lags in its target for wider vaccination. that target, from everything we know around the globe, is atanable in this wealthy nation. yesterday the situation is the sand and baroque backdrop for tonight's news with the biden administration seeing people convening on our schools and trying to convert them into a sick, theatrical background for their cos place and it's also part of why joe biden shifted from car rho the to stick, to the mandates. we know from the data that other mandates have worked. local city rules, workplace mandates have proven effective. you have the increasing number of people who are vaccinated under the rules and there's the other thing we know about this. this is public health. this is what the government does, this is what journalists do. you look at the evidence. if something doesn't work, i would come on the news and say think tried the mandate and it isn't working, but in fact, it is. if you get the rare breakthrough case, the vaccine still works to ensure against a grave or deadly covid. when more people are vaccinated in a given area, which is week they talk about the target rate, it makes that area safer for the people there who remain unvaccinated, like children. these are facts. many people are being fed lies instead, including -- i showed you fox news. there's a lot of stuff on facebook, posts that falsely link the vaccine to random celebrities' deaths to try to scare people with propaganda out of getting vaccinated. that's why you can't get news, let alone medical advice from random anonymous lawyers on facebook, which is a point dr. fauci has made countless times as we go through this epidemic together. it's also echoed in a wise question from the poet aubrey graham -- how can anybody tell you the truth when they misinformed? to quote another line -- i know the question rhetorical, because this is a rhetorical question. that guy there can't tell you the truth, because liars can never tell you the truth. let's bring in our experts, former prosecutor mile wiley, and pulitzer prizewinning journalist eugene. maya, your thoughts? >> i'm vaccinated. my children are vaccinated. my partner is vaccinated. teresa is a 10-year-old girl in suffolk, virginia, except she has passed away. the family had a funeral. the family says she was asked to be the nurse, to escort kids to the nurse's office if they were feeling sick. that mother had to go to a school board meeting and beg people not to believe the folks that came to the previous school board meeting, to say that masks were unnecessary, to say that children can't get covid or can't guy from covid. your very point you just made, ari, are dead on, as are eugene's. we are living in a time when some of us are having conversation about our responsibility to public health, while others are having a conversation about their right to, frankly, endanger the rest of us, because they're angry, because they don't feel like this country has served them. it's that simple. they're not the same conversations. they're not the same set of trusted people we're listening to, and we should not and cannot forget that donald trump said a lot of things about covid that were not true, and also undermined mask wearing for months as the president of the united states, as he spread lies about voter fraud. all of this ties together, a nation where democracy can only work if we're willing to have a conversation based on the same set of facts, not made-up untruths. >> gene, we referenced your work. you said covid-19 is a bipartisan killers. vaccination is not political at all. why would people not protect their own health and save their own lives? how is this anything but play stupid? you explore this, and maybe your questions were also rhetorical, but some people are misinformed, because they're being lied to, and they live busy, difficult lives, and now it's catching up with them. my heart goes out to them. other people know better and perpetuate the lies at the risks of their own constituents, viewers, neighbors, you name it, gene. >> it is not just stupid, but it's tragic. like maya, everybody in my house is vaccinated, boosted, you know, if required, if appropriate, and -- but, you know, in my extended family on my wife's side, there was a couple a bit older, in good health, who just didn't get vaccinated. their reasons were not political, as far as i know, but they just didn't do it. their adult children begged them to get vaccinated, but they didn't, and you kind of can guess the ending of the story. they both got covid and they now both are deceased. this happens. you are just killing yourselves by not using a vaccine that keeps from you dying from a deadly, tremendously infectious disease that is a pandemic. why do you not protect yourself? it is just a tragedy that we see unfolding every day, and you look at the death numbers, i mean, that's just ridiculous. it shouldn't be that. we know how to bring those numbers down, not to zero, with you close to it. everybody get vaccinated. >> yeah. it's so important. i want to say, we're leading off with this, when you look at what's happening in the country, the overall covid case count is dropping on a tracking basis, and the mandates are working in some places so it's a mixed bag to be sure. you see this level of attack. our panel stays, as we update on the other big story developments here in the maga riot probe. a former official named jeffrey clark has been served with a subpoena. he was also donald trump's hand-picked ally flown in to try to take over the doj when donald trump was trying to take over democracy that proempted the threats of mass recent ig nations. the biden administration today also rejecting trump's executive privilege, and tomorrow there's an end to the deadline for steve bannon, to put up or get in trouble. he says he will defy the subpoena. >> the committee is completely in solidarity. everyone recognizes how important it is that we enforce our subpoenas. >> maya, as an experienced prosecutor, i'm curious what you see coming down the pike, with trump officials, not even delaying the -- they're just doing the defy thing. >> remember, i was on the civil side of the u.s. attorney's office, but this one is not really rocket science. you have steve bannon, who frankly has not worked in the white house since 2017, on events that didn't have anything to do with a job that he had in government. what that means is, you don't get to have conversations with the president appeared say, protected. no one can know what we said. so, of all the people, the absolutely ridiculous. at the same time, there's no way this committee, once impaneled had any, any illusion that they were just going to get complete cooperation with witnesses, because it just is what the law demands. so, of course, they knew they week in a situation like this, where they were going to have to go to the u.s. attorney's office and say, hey, look. we have a situation we needed to enfours our subpoena power. we've got it under the constitution, we're asking you to do it. it's very hard for me to imagine a u.s. attorney's office doesn't say, you got it. >> gene? >> yeah. i think what needs to happening is a criminal referral followed by a prosecution of these potential witnesses defying these subpoenas. congress has the right to subpoena witnesses. there is no claim of executive privilege. i don't think there's any claim among all these witnesses, especially since there would be an exception when you're talking about criminal activity being planned. setting that aside, dede -- defiance of the subpoenas, i hope they move swiftly and decide decisive think. they should move quickly. >> especially if people are laying it out. fairness is fair, but they're saying this is their card, you have to play it back, you would think. i want to thank you, gene and maya. we have a lot in tonight's show. there's debate raging inside the democratic peter. how should biding handles the ninth inning of this spending clash. james carville is here. you know he has big ideas. later we have a very special guest on how to get safety and even some humor. and william shatner and jeff bezos. stay with us. d jeff bezos. stay with us i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? 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[ applause ] >> now, that debate presents sort of two different options for democratic leadership. well, let's not forget the party's most popular living leader tried to find a whole different lane, talking hope, justice, equality on grand temples, which didn't really relive the past -- >> it's been a long time coming, but tonight, because of what we did on this day in this election at this defining moment, change has come to america. [ cheers and applause ] and which could be easy for some to forget in the current world of america's racist insurrections, but for a time people openly talked about some kind of enduring, permanent, democratic majority. that was especially buzzed about after obama's reelection, his second win. >> i have no more campaigns to run. my only agenda -- [ laughter ] -- i know, because i won both of them. 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[ laughter ] >> look -- >> on the point of pop later -- >> you get me on the show -- we really get along well, but you throw me a fat one, i'm going to hit it. >> to your point about the popularity, you mentioned the drug prices, 88% of the country is with the democratic or biden plan on that. medicare, there you see 84%. the paid family leave, which you accurately say would build on that, and yet i want your view as a strategist that americans basically don't know about the plans. 29% say we don't know what's in it at all. only one of ten people claimed to know a lot of the specifics. but the real number might be under 1%. is that a failure of domestic messaging? >> of course it is. they didn't get out of enough, didn't sell it enough. bernie sanders says $6 trillion and martialing's $1.5. of course your mind is numb. i clearly support and like this president. i don't know why they didn't do a better job of selling it. >> let's get into that. >> but the second best time is right now. start selling. selling is popular. >> you've been in the room. how does that work, whether you're talking to president biden or the speaker or others? how does that work? this has come up so many times, you wonder how the personnel are not doing it. if somebody says i have a car for 80k, and there's one for 40, you don't notice -- why do we get stick on the prices only? >> because they lapse into jargon. they lapse into the press, which doesn't know -- you know, it's unclear what's going on. they get in the meet and think it's beneath them to go out and sell. my mother sold encyclopedias. this is the greatest boot to the middle class we've had in american since the new deep. this is the greatest boost we've had. they're not sound, good, effective policies. these are going to make your life centerly better and give your children a better future, better across this great country. if you do that, you show some enthusiasm, then people are going to like you, but a low people are like, they're going out selling some pots and pans door to door. well, you know what? give me a good salesman and i can show you somebody who can sell a good message. i'm a proud huckster. >> she world the encyclopedias door to door. she would say, lift the cap cal of -- and she always thought i was a genius. they were the finest things you ever would get in your house. >> you know what the final question is -- >> go ahead. >> when they opened the door, did she leave with the enseek lo pedia or leave with the price tag? >> neffably she would have us look for a bass bot and a tricycle. she would go in to make the pitch, the man would come in, and let ' -- you know, school is starting, maybe come back in three three months. before the basketball, you can buy the balls before yourself but -- she could come in for the kill better than anybody. i learned so much sitting at that woman's table. she knew how to set it up, and then she knew how to pressure. i'm proud that i developed that and learned that at her feet. >> we always learn different things. bless your mother. i didn't know that story. but it makes sense, from what i know about you. william shatner blasting into space, and senator warren has an opinion. what about culture and ecasism? we have a special guest coming up. a special guest coming up s quickly. instantly ready to start working. so you can bounce back fast with alka-seltzer plus. 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one new hit special tackles life stuck inside, people can relate to that, while another new off-broadway comedy show "unacceptable" covers everything. it's the brainchild of the man who has written for ellen and dave chappelle. his comedy playing with rhetoric, culture and assumptions. on a recent coffee trip with jerry seinfeld, he talked about a hit he does that criticizes the belayoff concept of pet ownership. >> people say i'm a dog mom. you know who else was a doing's mom? the doing's mom. some audiences don't like it. the only thing i value in the world, new ideas are the only thing i care about. >> brennan is funny, but rigorous about ideas. you might have seen a recent clubs where he channels a conversation where many have had to go through. maybe someone you know tells you they did their research and they concluded they opposed vaccine. he offers a satire cal but firm roast of that. >> one of my friends is like, i think they rushed the vaccine. i'm like, i didn't know you were an emdeemologist? another friend said i don't want to mess with my dna like that. greg, i've met your family, i think you can risk your dna. that is not that valuable. >> comedian writer, now off-broadway star neal brennan joins us. thanks for being here. >> hi, hi, ari. i'm having a hard time -- there we are. hey, there we go. >> take your time. >> we talked about live in 2021, still involves a lot of zoom. >> yeah, i system haven't goechb the hang of it 18 months in. >> well, everyone learns at their own pace, neal. when you go after antivaxers -- these based on who you found or more people you found indirectly, online, through media? >> no, i know some anti-vaxers, and i thought of a sketch idea, which would be a white noise machine for when someone you know start talking about their vaccine theories and you can just turn a white noise machine on, and it covers up the stupidity and you can keep respecting them. yeah, it's been -- the people that come to see me have to be vaxed, and they have to wear a masks. it's been fine doing comedy for people in masks, because if a joke doesn't work, i can just tell myself, that laugh must have gotten caught on the masks. >> it was in there. neal, when you look at this debate and you've done comedy that's tackled a lot of america's problems, is this exactly what we were headed for, or does this somehow seem worse and more depressing? and where do you find the funny in that? >> you're not wrong, that you think, well, not this time, and then it just keeps happening over and over and over again, whether it's the america's paranoid political style or what. i just think everything is so fractured, it's -- it's impossible -- like facts have become debatable. it used to be two plus two equals four, and a few years ago people were like, no, that's five now, i saw it on reddit, and we have to live with that. >> first of all, i think the viewers care about facts, a lot of the ones i hear from, but personally resonates with me, because we're here talking about here's what the evidence we know and what we don't know, and people you run into, and actually no one knows anything, that's why i can feel what i want tofl. and i'm, like, respect, i'm not here to tell you what to feel, but there are things that get known. if you don't know how to do them, right, you wouldn't go to someone who claims tore a heart surgeon because they said so, but they don't have the training. i think that's pretty straightforward. >> i know, but i mean, i think we have to listen to what -- says about the vaccine. we have to listen to what debate says about hiv, but that's how people are starting to think, that there is no -- there's no -- there's no boundary between news and entertainment now. i've even heard of new shows having comedians on. >> there's where he's going, and you're referring to some comments about how she was concerned about this and that, and again the reason people have to debate the stuff in public, but if it's not factual, of course -- terribly homophobic coms, which was a big scandal in hip coal. you have a show where you share personal vulnerability. how much of that is real, how much of that is exaggerated for the comedy you're doing? does it matter? and just to make it a harder question, do you think this might help some people for you to share what you're going through? lord knows it's a tough time for all of us. >> it's about 90% made up -- no. it's entirely factual, and at the -- i know it helps people, because they wait for me after the show. they tell me and dm me, message me on twitter. it happened with my last netflix special, where i talk about depression and all the treatments i've done, and people still, you know, in that clip we showed from "the breakfast club" charlemagne said he got into therapy, because i talked about it. like, that's a huge thing. if everyone talks about it, people were sort of friends and family were like, i wouldn't talk about this in public. i knew i was just going first, you know what i mean? i'll start, he's my issues, right? and everyone goes, you know what? and everybody goes. so that's the idea, and so far so good. >> wow. that's cool to hear your thinking on it. neal, we have quoted you on "the beat" before, because some of your punch lines make interesting points, they slap, if you will, but it's nice to have you on. for folks in new york, the show is unacceptable. >> thanks, buddy. william shatner actually going to space for real, but also reigniting an important political debate about taxing the rich. political debate about taxing the rich managers. 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