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>> well, what we saw today, alyssa, and i'm in austin where there were thousands marching orallies together and one of the most diverse rallies i have ever seen in this state and it was interesting because there was almost all the conversation, all the speakers talk about the fact that we have to register to vote and people have to get out and elect new members of the state legislature and elect a new governor. it was very, very clear that what happened in texas is extreme, unconstitutional, cruel abortion ban did not happen because the people in texas rose up and demanded it. it happened because governor greg abbott and others put their personal politics ahead of the health and well-being ahead of the folks in the state. i really do believe this has struck a cord now of folks and they understand that the really way to change it long-term is we have political power in the state of texas and elect people that respect the ability of people to make their own decision about their pregnancies. >> i want to bring up that map. texans forced to drive hundreds of miles out of state. what are some of the stories you have heard this past month in texas? >> well, one of the most heart-breaking stories is the story of a 16-year-old girl who sent me a text a little after midnight on september 1st, and she said to me, how am i going to figure out how to get a bus to oklahoma when it took me two days to figure out how to get a bus to fort worth, and she lived in dallas. that's real. the other break breaking story we heard is a woman who started her abortion process on the day before the ban went into place and went into the clinic for the second part of the process. this is heart-breaking. we're hearing these kinds of stories right on the front lines from clinic staff. >> yeah. these are the front line stories, melissa. and it is all going to run up to what happens at the supreme court as it begins its new term next week. we will all be watching the abortion case out of the city. harry litman writes, the most consequential case this term. it requires the court to review a mississippi abortion statute that forbids nearly all procedures after 15 weeks. the law is flatly irreconcilable with the courts repeatedly reaffirmed holding that the constitution protects a woman's decision whether to terminate a pregnancy under the current science. so what is this case going to reveal about this new conservative super majority supreme court? >> i don't think it's going to tell us anything that we didn't already know. with those voting rights cases. we don't get state legislatures like the one that passed sb-8 without laws that redirect and redirect in favor of republican legislatures and that suppress the those who would object. so we think about these as voting rights on the one hand, abortion rights on the other. but we cannot think about them apart. this is about political power plain and simple and what we will see this term in dobbsi think is really consequential not just because this mississippi law which bans abortion at 15 weeks now looks reasonable next to this texas law that is greatly unconstitutional but bans abortion at six weeks. but we are getting a move toward something that is flatly unreasonable, but it is reasonable because we are seeing more extreme laws being passed by these extreme legislatures. >> this is your life's work, reproductive rights, voting rights. it is all on the line right now, and i think there are people who care about these issues but who might not follow them as closely as you do say, how did we get here? i mean, how did we end up in the year 2021 having this conversation about roe? >> i think it is a really important point, probably the most important one and it really happened because the republican party has now essentially decided that they are going to cater to the most extreme part of this country, which wants to make abortion completely illegal in all cases, which is essentially what's happened in texas. you know, we just saw in the united states congress the passage in the house of the women's health protection act which simply does nothing more than say abortion should be safe and legal and available to all people in this country and not a single republican member of congress voted for it. so i think what's happened is we are seeing now that the republican party is no longer the party of small government. it is no longer the party of, you know, staying out of my bedroom. this is a party that wants to make this country go back to the days before roe when, as we all know and we are hearing from doctors now who -- who lived during that era, before roe, young healthy women dying in emergency rooms across this country because we all know, too, they may make abortion illegal in texas but that does not mean there is not going to be abortion in texas. it is simply going to be illegal and unsafe. and the rallying cry today is we are not going back to those days. >> this week we heard from three members of congress about their own abortions. take a listen. >> i am speaking up because of the real risk to the days when i was a teenager and had a back alley abortion in mexico. >> to all those who had abortions and will have abortions, we have nothing to be ashamed of. we live in a society that has failed to legislate love and justice for us. so we deserve better. we demand better. we are worthy of better. >> for me terminating my pregnancy was not an easy choice, the most difficult i made in my life, but it was my choice. and that is what must be preserved for every pregnant person. >> as an organizer, why do those stories matter? >> well, those stories, much like my own, as a woman who had two abortions, those stories matter because they represent not just the person saying it but many women whose stories are just like theirs. and i have to say that there is without a doubt that those stories won't go away. they will just get stranger, more painful and almost deadly. >> melissa, a recent gallup poll shows recent support of the supreme court at 40%. you had alito defending. i mean, what do you make of this public positioning to defend the court in this moment as faith and trust is waning? >> well, i think they have no other choice. the court is unlike congress or the executive. it lacks the power of the purse. it lacks the power of the sword. all it has to make us obey is its own legitimacy and that legitimacy has been seriously hobbled since september 1st when the court allowed a law that flagrantly denies rights for people in texas. so i think that's why we have had these supreme court justices out on this road show telling us they're not partisan hacks, telling us the shadow docket is not what we think it is, it is a place to resolve issues. but they know what they saw on september 1st. they know what they're seeing in texas. and i think this gallup poll, which is the lowest rating the supreme court has ever had, suggests that it really is battered and hobbled and this court had to turn course at some point. >> as always, thank you so much for reminding us what is on the line here. next where talks stand and what may have to go in order for democrats to pass deals on infrastructure and spending. we're going to ask new mexico congresswoman. and later the vaccine mandate at new york city schools has passed the supreme court. look for mandates elsewhere. richard lui is standing by with other stories we're watching. a body found today believed to be that of missing florida college student. sheriffs deputies discovered the body near her orlando apartment complex. the 19-year-old was last seen last sunday. the suspect is believed to have committed suicide last week. service changes may cause delays in mail delivery starting this weekend and lengthen mail deliveries for a third of first class mail. the changes will increase delivery reliability, consistency and efficiency. and hawaii's volcano erupting. this time no homes are in danger for now. another eruption making news, la palma had volcanic activity as well. more "american voices" right after this break. ht after this break one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars. yep... everything hurts. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ this may look like a regular movie night. but if you're a kid with diabetes, it's more. it's the simple act of enjoying time with friends, knowing you understand your glucose levels. ♪♪ alice loves the scent of gain so much, she wished there was a way to make it last longer. say hello to your fairy godmother alice and long-lasting gain scent beads. try spring daydream, now part of our irresistible scent collection. we have to be able to repair the enamel on a daily basis. with pronamel repair toothpaste, we can help actively repair enamel in its weakened state. it's innovative. my go to toothpaste is going to be pronamel repair. if you're 55 and up, t- mobile has plans built just for you. my go to toothpaste whether you need a single line or lines for family members, you'll get great value on america's most reliable 5g network. like 2 lines of unlimited for just $27.50 a line. only at t-mobile. it's another day. and anything could happen. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. get ready for it all with an advanced network and managed services from comcast business. and get cybersecurity solutions that let you see everything on your network. plus an expert team looking ahead 24/7 to help prevent threats. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities. is the frame work enough, an agreed upon frame work. >> we need a vote. we need to be real. are we going to deliver universal pre-k to this country or not? are we going to expand health care to our seniors and include vision and dental or not? are we going to informs in housing so that people back home can actually get hot water in wintertime or not? >> aoc last night making clear she wants votes. here's the problem. joe manchin won't vote on a spending bill that exceeds $1.5 trillion. senator kyrsten sinema has taken issue with the price tag, too, but hasn't specified what it is she wants. but the price isn't just a number. it means more help for the american people. joining me now, a member of the natural resources committee. congresswoman, thank you so much for being with us on what i know is the end of a busy week and the beginning of what promises to be an even busier week, your sense of where negotiations will go once everyone returns on monday? >> yeah. thanks so much for having me on tonight. it is a real pleasure to be here. you know, this last week we made real progress. i know at the national level and on the media it is being debated how it all proceeded but i feel confident we will get to these two packages across the finish line because when the president told us when he visited his caucus yesterday, this is what he campaigned on, this is what we campaigned on and this is what i campaigned on in the special election in june. this is about passing infrastructure and jobs and about passing the most transformation package since the new deal investing in child care, universal pre-k, expanding our health care system and taking action now. i know the president and all of our caucus and all of us across the spectrum are dedicated to getting both of these packages done. >> congressman, i think we often do a disservice when we talk about the $3.5 trillion price tag without being clear that that number is arbitrary. it has been arrived at at the number that is necessary in order to get a number of programs funded and accomplished. so we have been told it is likely that that will not be the final number. it will be lower. i wonder if you agree with that. but i also wonder if you could articulate for us what could potentially be lost in the process, right? what substantively could be lost in the process if that number comes down? >> you know, we're not focussed as much on the number. and i say "we" meaning the vast majority of the caucus. we are focussed on delivering impact for the american people and for our planet. so what is most important, whatever the final number is, whatever the final package is that we deliver on expanding health care, universal pre-k and child care that we are providing for free community college, that we're delivering on real and substantive climate change now. in order to do that, ultimately, if we have to address those issues through a shorter time frame, we have to be more strategic in the way we shape the final package, we will do whatever it takes. but the american people are demanding we pass both of these packages and that's what we're working towards, is the impact that real people will feel. i just want to say, you know, as a congresswoman from new mexico, new mexico is one of the poorest states in the country. we have among the highest childhood poverty rates, unemployment rates and this bill will be transformational for our people and especially children across the country. so we have to get this done and we have to get it across the finish line. >> you have been a big proponent on focussing on children and families. can you help us understand, if you go in and tinker with the legislation, what it is that could potentially be at stake for those children and their caretakers and people managing elder care. what is it in that bill that you are worried won't be preserved? >> well, as everyone knows, we just authorize with the american rescue plan one of the largest expansions of investments in our families and our history with the child tax credit. and one of the things is making that program permanent, which has already helped to lift millions of children out of poverty because it is putting real money into the pockets of our families, helping families put roofs over their head, helping families address their education needs. so we are talking about an entire generation and generations to come that will be impacted by these bills. you know, ensuring that children all across our country can access child care and pre-k, that our families have paid sick leave, that we have an expansion of medicate in states where they have not adopted medicaid expansion and we expand medicate for our elders to access things like hearing aids and things like that through their medicare program. so this is all about the health and well-being of our communities. i also want to bring you back to future generations which is this is all about climate change. we know from the science that we are facing a precipice on our planet and that if we do not take climate action now and serious climate action to reduce our emissions that we are going to impact for generations to come. and, so, this is our chance. this is our opportunity, and this is the package through which we're going to do it. >> thank you! next, vaccines in the classroom. california issues a first of its kind mandate with a big catch. plus, the pandemic's toll on mental health and the group of americans carrying the brunt. un hey, get your own vapors relax with vicks vapobath or with vicks vaposhower. take a soothing vicks vapo moment wherever you chose. 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>> i agree the communications have been a severe problem, not just with the booster roll-up but the entire pandemic. when you think of this tricky issue does reflect what i just said, that we gravitate toward these fruits of biomedicine to save us. look at what's happened. america produced vaccines faster than anyone had dare hoped for, and that was plateaued 38th in the world in vaccination rates. this country's death rates are higher after all adults than for many other countries had before vaccines were even available. and that should alarm us. that should shake us to the core. it should tell us that, yes, these things are miraculous and they make a difference. but if you roll them out to a society where millions of people cannot access health care, where public health has been disinvested for a century, where so many people are living on the edge and don't trust the government to provide for them, then, of course, you might have vaccines, but you're not going to get vaccinations, which is what exactly matters. >> that's right. >> that's the piece america needs to focus on. >> right. this question of access. you have been trying to predict the end of the pandemic since march of 2020. your sense of where we are? 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we do not have kam. all right. i'm going to start with you, dr. morris, which is part of the reason this profile of simone biles was so interesting to me is that what we see about biles, the way our culture and our society treats a black woman or black girl who is at the top of the game can tell us so much about the way that society treats all black women and all black girls. >> yes. thank you for that. you know, the bodies of black women and girls are often treated as part of the public domain for entertainment, exploitation or to be used and discarded at society's mess lei. it is an extension of the belief that the labor of black women or girls is or should be available to everyone. this is an extension of the anti-blackness that we see affecting black women and girls but also other communities of color. i'm now the president and ceo and we are in community with 180 organizations in 36 states, washington, d.c., guam and puerto rico. across the board, what we're seeing is that organizations are seeing an increase in care giving responsibilities, violence in association with the pandemic and that has continued as well. >> i think i have you now. i want to hear from you. this was a profile that was written with great care, with great tenderness. what surprised you most about profiling biles? >> what was most surprising is just how much her story was emblematic and so many stories of woman of color of black women, especially the experience black women have had during the pandemic. so much of the pandemic is psychological. myself personally though i never tested positive for covid, i can count on two hands the friends and family who caught it. i lost an uncle, grandfather, stepfather all to covid. when you add in the fact that black people have higher covid hospital saigtss rates, you can imagine that tens of thousands of black women are carrying this kind of every day trauma very silently. even though her story was acute and specific to the abuse she faced, it was a reality check around the ways women are carrying trauma at large throughout our societies and are expected to win and be successful even though few do a lot to protect us and to hear us. >> they're expected to win and be successful and in some ways winning, being exceptional actually complicates things, right? because then people are less likely to see them as someone who might need support, as someone who might need checking in on. in some ways that excellence becomes its own vulnerability. >> sure, yeah. i write about this in the story, right, this notion that black women are mules or have been treated like mules. this is obviously a metaphor, right? we're not actually mules. we know that. but there is the world that we live in expects us to live up to the standards that other people don't have to live up to and expects us to carry the burden of protecting our communities and ourselves on our backs while at the same time showing up expertly, perfectly in every way, shape or form. over the past couple years, black women have been speaking out about the ways we have been asking to comfort, whether it is our hair or the way we speak, all of these things are examples about the way we are expected to perform in a society that does nothing to perform to our personal cultures. so this expectation that not only that we succeed but that we do it without complaining is really something that has been killing us for so long. and what simone biles did for us is set an example that being great is good, but being well is better. if black women have to put down the mantle of being great so that we can check in on our own health and take care of our own communities, i think we should do that now. >> the thread i want to pull here from ka m's amazing profile to the work you do, you referenced this, but i want to go back to "the new york times" report. they were essential workers and primary care workers. there is no other group that was all three of those things at once. you take that reality. i think this sort of one choice there. you can question whether or not it is a choice, is to lead some of these social justice movements. to a lot of young women it did not feel like a choice. what do schools, do institutions, do their communities need to be doing to step up and support them when they are trying to play all three roles at once? >> thank you for that. you know, the study was released that shows us that 80% of young part-time who were involved in their program and in their survey were worried about their education, that black girls are dealing with financial hardships and that the increase in taking care of a sibling or an adult in addition to managing being at the center of multiple pandemics or racism and the ever lasting presence of that in addition to the physical health crisis that we experienced through covid-19, schools need to be responsive to girls' mental health. there is no way around us, you know, really thinking about critically building systems that center our capacity to build out these institutions as locations for healing. i have long said locations for healing so they could be locations for learning. the necessity for us to center our own well-being so that we can open ourselves up to be critical thinkers and engagers in these moments, not just of crisis but of well-being as well. >> all right. you know i needed more time than i had for this. if you would like to learn more, definitely read ka m's profile in "the cut." read any of dr. morris' book. next, we will take you to haiti to see why so many are seeking ref fugue at our southern border. it is new reporting you do not want to miss. o miss tool? 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right, this story goes back a decade, right? so it's not just there are patterns of behavior but he was able to move from team to team but really some of the patterns and it's not just two players that spoke about this. i spoke to over a dozen players from every team he's coached on from within professional womens soccer. but a toxic culture with verbal abuse focused on personal relationships, a focus on weight, all of this lowering of boundaries of drinking out with the team. and then on top of that this pattern of sexual coercion where he sent a lurid photo to both players a few years apart. so there really are patterns from team to team as he was able to move throughout the game. >> i want to hone in on this point you made in your piece which is that for most of the last two decades, quote, one of women's soccer governing mores has been a willingness to stay silent. as the sport fails, tried again to gain traction in the united states any controversy was viewed as a threat to the sport's existence. and quote, it was more than hiding the truth, it was putting on a happy face while doing that. talk about the pressure these players were under to stay silent for the benefit of the sport? >> absolutely. this pressure, even that paragraph it's such a summary. after the past two decades. in the professional league there is the sense that there have been two leagues before this one that have failed. so if you want this league to succeed there's not only your own safety, your own career safety but your teammates' careers, the entire leagues careers resting on your shoulders that if you raise your voice this entire thing could come crumbling down. so that breeds this silence across the sport, and we're only now starting to break free of it in a much, much more significant way. >> can you give us a sense of what real oversight would look like here? >> i think that there's a number of things to be done. i think there are actually now a number of investigates in play from u.s. soccer fifa which is the international governing body. one of the big key parts of this reporting is that when a coach is released due to behavior we're not finding out about that and he's able to be hired somewhere else or she's able to be hired somewhere else. so part of that is having processes in place not just an anti-harassment policy but something that will actually help keep the league itself in check to ensure that the players are safe and free from harm. >> thank you for sharing your reporting with us and thank you so much for your time. that is it for this saturday. thank you for being with us. i'm elisa menendez. i'm going to see you back here tomorrow 6:00 p.m. eastern for more american voices. but for now i hand it over to ayman. hello. thank you so much for that greatly appreciated excellent show as always. good evening, everyone. welcome to ayman. no vote on the infrastructure bill at least not yet. it is a big win for progressives, but the real prize actually is reaching a deal on reconciliation. can they actually reach one? congresswoman debby dingell is here. and activists march in cities all across america today in support of abortion rights. will roe vs. wade still be standing at the end of this term? plus, senator marco rubio do as i say not as i do. he's actually introducing a bill called mind your own business act, believe it or not. so why doesn't he take his own advice for a change? i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. all right, s

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