cannot access health care, where public health has been disinvested for a century, where so many people are living on the edge and don t trust the government to provide for them, then, of course, you might have vaccines, but you re not going to get vaccinations, which is what exactly matters. that s right. that s the piece america needs to focus on. right. this question of access. you have been trying to predict the end of the pandemic since march of 2020. your sense of where we are? i think it s always really hard to say. i do think this pandemic ends with the virus still among us with most people having some form of immunity whether preferably through vaccination or less so through having encountered it and having some immunity through that. but it is going to be a tricky ride. i emphasize that for each individual, getting vaccinated is the single best thing you can do to protect yourself.