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there's been a lot of public posturing and that has been part of the issue, is that the president now believes that he has set the table for a more private and potentially serious discussion. look the two sides were so entrenched on how this was going to happen, with the completely separate vision of how this was going to happen, and now, both sides maybe a little bit disappointed, but the president is hoping that in the end, now that he said i don't want this self--imposed deadline, we will take as much time as it takes to get this done, that maybe we can set a framework, where they can at least come together on the framework. so how would that work? a number. so the president, i'm told, did not come into this meeting saying any specific number, but he did give a range, and that range would be not the 3.5 trillion that progressives want and not the 1 trillion that moderates like manchin wants but somewhere in between, 1.9 to 2.3 trillion. for starters. secondly, in terms of the framework, the president said let's pick the programs that are your priorities, and then work our way back, we don't have to have for instance 10-year programs for all of the priorities like child care, i'm told speaker pelosi for instance, that are her priority, the tax child credit, child care services, paid leave, that those are the things that are most important to democrats, so the president asked them, pick your priorities, and maybe we can make some trims, around the windows. whether it's five years, whether it's ten years. but the bottom line now, is that we see that so much with these self-imposed deadlines they always get pushed back, no one here if they're being honest with you, can predict whether there will be ultimately be a deal but at least the president is playing a more visible role in trying to be the honest broker here. >> all right. heidi, as well as julie, joining us on capitol hill, thank you both. let's hear from somebody who is involved in the negotiations, florida congresswoman and member of the congressional progressive caucus lois frankel. congresswoman, thank you for being here. appreciate it. were you involved with that phone call ort meeting with the president yesterday? >> i was not in the room. but i was involved in lots of caucus meetings. and look, i want to start by saying this. not one republican is vetting or planning to vote for what i believe is one of the most monumental transformational pieces of legislation that's going to take the stress off of us, especially working parents, and our seniors, and nobody is even mentioned that. my two senators didn't even vote for a bipartisan infrastructure bill. >> right now, there's no deal, there is no agreement of any sort for the republicans to even kind of look at, for the moderates to even look at. what's your number? >> you know what? >> we have that information on the screen of the democrats only plan, if we can pop it up. what is your top number and what would you take off that plan in order to meet some people in the middle? >> okay, well, let me, i'm going to answer that question and just say, there is no crisis here. and i agree with the president, there is no timetable. but let me tell you what's the most important that i have been working on as one of the co-chairs of women's caucus, and that is lifting our children, lifting the workers and the care community, and so taking, as i said, the stress off of working families, and making home care, and child care more accessible. >> i understand. let me get back to, if you were negotiating right now, as a progressive member, what would be the top number, what would be something that you would be able to say listen, i will give, so that we can come to an agreement? >> i don't have a top number. i think what's important is to look at what are the issues, what are the programs we want in this package, and then add it up, and that's where i would go, and see where we could get it, i think the speaker gave an example. maybe we're not going to fund something for ten years. maybe it's going to are for five years. but for me, it's very important that we have child care in there, and family leave and home care, those kinds of things, universal pre-k, and of course, dealing with climate change. for me, those are the top priorities. congresswoman, a lot of heat has been put on senators manchin and kyrsten sinema, and in fact, we spoke to voters in arizona about what they have to say about their freshman senator. this is what some of them told our crew there. >> this needs to go on behind the scenes where we may not see, but what we are seeing doesn't evoke a lot of inspiration or hope for where we live. >> i'm a republican and i did not vote for her, but seeing what she's doing to act as kind of a counter-balance to the more extreme elements of the democratic party, i think she's doing a good job. >> i know the last time we asked you about the senator, you didn't want to talk about your colleagues in the other chamber but i have to ask you, kyrsten sinema has been a little bit more vague on what she is looking for, we just found out this week that senator manchin has sent his top line, 1.5 trillion to the president in july, and yet we've also reported and heard that speaker ploensy didn't know about that number -- speaker pelosi didn't know about that number until this week as well. are you hearing from the same from the speaker? >> let me just say this, i don't think the top line is as important as to what we eventually get into the program, and you know, i don't think there's any merit in criticizing or complaining about our senators. we need them to be with us. >> but congresswoman, your constituents have questions about the process. this process is taking place of course, on broadcasts, and to be transparent, what did the house know? >> well, i did not know any of that. and again, look, i think, sometimes you have a self-inflicted wound, and the self-inflicted wound, i think, was originally having a deadline to pass the infrastructure bill when we didn't need to have that. and then it got everybody all in a tizzy about this. but the fact is, we didn't need a deadline. and we don't need a deadline. and we're working towards this. and as i think i told you last time we spoke, you got over, what, 300 people who were trying to get a meeting of the mind, and that just takes time. but i really feel confident that we can do it, and we are going to do something phenomenal, you know, making child care, and the home care less costly, raising the wages of the care workers, we have a lot of great things that we're going to do. >> congressman, you have some of your moderate colleagues in the house, who had some stark words last night, saying that they were deeply, the actions that took place, you see them up there, deeply regrettable and profoundly disappointed. do you share their sentiment in how this has all played out? >> well, i think i would say i'm somewhat, i think it's somewhat regrettable that we had this deadline that put everybody, giving people what i would say is a false impression of when we could get this done. but look, i know both of them, i like them both, they have great values, as i've said before, the democrats, our values are very closely knit here, so look, i believe we will have to get over the disappointment, especially from the past two bills and it will be a win for the american people. >> congresswoman frankel, thanks for taking time with us, especially after such a busy week. we appreciate it. >> thank you so much. okay. the inaugural women's march four years ago was one of the largest protests in u.s. history. you see the versions on this screen? it is back today, with a renewed focus. >> texas new abortion law and the threat of row v. wade being overturned has lit a fire hine the demonstrators, with hundreds of thousands marching today. and we will speak about their message with the head of planned parenthood next. planned parenthood next. mom: ahem ahem ahem we're out. want your clothes to smell freshly washed all day without heavy perfumes? 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>> in just a few hours on the stage behind me, we expect to hear from activists, organizers, performers, and they're going to talk about abortion rights as you mentioned. now there is something different about this women's march this year. this is the first time this is happening post-trump. the previous marches all happened when trump was in office and the force behind it was really against his policies and against his election. there were questions about what role organizations like the women's march were going to play once trump left office. what would be the role going forward. activists and organizers for this particular event say that that law in texas as well as the law in mississippi have really served as a galvanizing force, bringing together participants to continue to be active and engaged beyond the trump years, and into the 2022 midterm election year. and now of course, we are in dc, i do expect to hear a lot of focus on the role that activists feel that the supreme court plays in abortion access. following the program here in freedom plaza, activists will be marching down to the supreme court where they hope that their presence is felt as the court reconvenes for a new session on monday. >> to another capital, austin texas, where stephanie is located. and texas's new law galvanized organizers and supporters of abortion rights, that have come out today and i know they will be doing a lot of marching but will they also be calling for action, and what kind of action would that be? >> good morning to you, i am here at the state capitol in austin, this is the legislative body that passed the restrictive abortion bill, that essentially bans abortions once the heartbeat is detected and that happens as we know around six weeks. later this morning, around 9:00 a.m. local time, organizers say they expect about 30,000 people to descend upon this capital to make their voices heard. you know this law went into effect a little more than a month ago. and it has really sparked a lot of emotion, and a lot of anger across the country. now, let me tell you a little bit more about what we're going to see here, we're going to see the organizers, we're going to eactivists and local lawmakers, some state you what meric, wendy davis will be in attendance, she is a former state lawmaker as you will recall led the 13-hour filibuster in 2013 on a different restrictive abortion bill that was not passed at that point. we are also going to see the former president of planned herenthood in attendance here today. over the weekend, this weekend as well, i want to point out to you that we have the austin city limits music festival going on at the same time. so organizers at this point are unsure how that may impact the turnout here. but i can tell you that we are seeing several high profile female perform evers including miley cyrus, billy eelish, and everything is wondering will we see a surprise visit from one of those women, or some other celebrities here voicing their opinions, what we've seen in the past at other rallies so that's what we're expecting to see here in austin, texas, again, this is ground zero, for sb-8. >> thank you so much for setting us up with what we can expect to see today. >> we want to welcome to the program, alexis johnson, president and ceo of planned parenthood of america and planned parenthood fund and one of the speakers at today's rally in washington, d.c. good to have you on again. when we talk about these event, and we know it's important to see people come out in numbers, and raise their video voices but we also know the future of roe v. wade really hangs in the balance of the supreme court. so what does a day like today do to move the needle? >> a day like today is so important to really demonstrate the message, right? which is clear. ban on our body, the freedom to control our bodies our lives belong us to and us alone, and to show, and to demonstrate the fact that these bans are deeply unpopular, they are out of step with the majority of the american public, and it is so critical for lawmakers, for our congress, and for the supreme court, to understand the impact that these bans are having. we are 30 days into, you know, as outrageous, unconstitutional six-week ban in texas, that is impacting so many people who have to travel thousands of miles out of state just to exercise their constitutional right. and so it's important for us to come together with over 90 organizations, as you said, over 600 rallies across the country, to let people know that this is not just in texas, it is not just in mississippi, this is at our doorstep, and we have to do everything we can to stop it. >> to your point there, we know the numbers here, in oklahoma, your organization reported 133% jump in patients from texas, a 67% increase in new mexico but i want it talk about the next few months, they will be crucial and we know the supreme court refused to block texas' law, and the court is expected to hear a case out of mississippi as you mentioned december 1st. a new warning that could unravel roe v. wade once and for all. can you explain what's at stake here? >> absolutely. look, the supreme court has taken up a case, dobs versus jackson health organization, which is the sole provider of abortion in mississippi. and the way they have taken up this case, it guess to the essence of who gets to make this decision pre-viability, is it the state lawmaker or is it the actual person seeking access to abortion. that would undermine 50 years nearly of precedent. and that fact, the support, to rethink 50 years of precedent is what is most alarming. >> what we have here is this texas law where we believe there will be copy cat legislation with, you know, 26 states that could enact similar legislation affecting nearly 36 million women across this country, and we are ushering in kind of a defacto end to roe and the supreme court taking up of roe and that's why we're in the streets today. that's the reason why we just cannot sit back and let this happen. >> we're waiting to see what happens with the challenge of the texas law. we heard some really deeply personal stories from lawmakers, during thursday's hearing on capitol hill. including one from congresswoman barbara lee, who recounted getting an abortion at a clinic in mexico after finding out she was pregnant at 16. here's some of what she told nbc's ali vitali. >> i was terrified. i didn't know what was taking place. i was one of those that survived and i think it's my duty now, as hard as this is, to talk about it, because i know it's going to happen again if we don't stop what's taking place. >> it takes a lot of courage to come out and talk about these personal stories. how powerful do you think they are, and what do they do to highlight this issue? >> thank you so much for asking, for showing her really courageous story, she and representative corey bush, and so many other patient story tellers who will be on stages all across the country, today, really helped make clear the impact that, you know, every story is different, everyone has different circumstances, everyone makes that decisions for themselves, and it is really kind of put the power of understanding why, you know, why someone is facing a decision like this, and how they kind of talk through it, i think helps personalize it, it helps humanize the experience. this isn't just about, you know, a ban or a law, there are other people on the end of these bans that are really being harmed and that is what we will see across this country. >> alexis, thank you so much for spending part of your morning with us in what will be a busy day for you. thank you so much. >> thanks. some witnesses to the january 6th riot are already spilling the beans to the committee that is investigating. but others won't be so easy to crack. heavy hitters, could have a subpoena coming their way soon. and today on "velshi" representative jamie ras kin on the committee with the latest on the investigation. and what is next for the biden agenda. we have representatives at the top of the hour. s at the top of the hr.ou ray loves vacations. but his diabetes never seemed to take one. everything felt like a 'no.' everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 14 day, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to... and...when he wants to. so ray...can be ray. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit freestylelibre.us (burke) i've seen this movie before. now you kn(woman) it for free. you have? 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republicans. we know manchin wants to get the reconciliation bill down to at least $1.5 trillion, before he votes for it, for the bipartisan infrastructure bill, is there any wiggle room there that you know of? >> i'm sure he has wiggle room. he is a negotiator. he wants to put out what his position is. and he's willing to talk to others. and come up with ways to raise more revenue that he thinks the u.s. will stay competitive and help those who he believes are most vulnerable in the country. he wants to do something done. he has been talking to everybody who will listen. he has spoken to the president. he talked to chuck schumer. he will talk to the progressives if they want. but he has laid out what he thinks is best for his state and the country and keep moving forward on that path. it took a couple of months to get the 1.2 trillion infrastructure deal, he was at the heart of that, i have no doubt that in six weeks, maybe eight weeks, we'll see a reconciliation bill that democrats 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mandate for school employees before it's enforced monday but justice sotomayor denied the request. and parents from coast to coast are pushing back, too. >> come on, come on. >> with frustrations boiling over, the national school boards association is asking the white house for help. writing, the growing number of threats against public school officials could be equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes. and back here in new york city, the vaccination rate among public school employees jumped to 90% ahead of monday's mandate and those who didn't provide proof of vaccination by close of business yesterday, that will be off the table. lindsey? >> kathy park, thanks for the latest. we're going to dive into a lot more of this right now. and the potential break through treatment with one of our doctors, plus a judge deals a blow to new york teachers who didn't want a vaccine mandate. what it could mean for schools come monday. and later today representative barbara lee 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>> right, and i think what this shows is how politicized the pandemic has been, so as the headline says, health care workers have gone from heroes to threats and now people are not believing that they're actually, that actually covid-19 exists, and i think what hospitals and health care institutions need to do is have policies in place that state we do not accept this type of behavior. and that it interferes with the medical care and medical treatment and their priority really is to protect their workers or wells workers will leave from burnout and just from the trauma of these or else workers will leave from burnout and just the trauma of these experiences. >> you have california where the governor there, governor newsom of california announcing that school children in the state will be required to get the vaccine come next year. do you see, is it that's what is going to be a common thread across the country? >> i do. i think that california has been leading the way throughout this pandemic in terms of mitigation measures. i think this vaccine mandate for k through 12 schools, we will see this spread across the country. i think there should be a vaccine mandate for teachers as well. we need to keep schools safe. we know vaccinations are one part of that. i know that schools will continue implementing mask mandates because we know masks are also very helpful. but, again, we will see more schools implementing these vaccine mandates, especially as vaccines improve for young children. >> real quickly, i know we just passed that grim milestone, 700,000 deaths from covid. september was the worst month in the pandemic for deaths. what do you right now? 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>> right now we're in front of the life guard station, which is on top of the property that my family used to own. >> reporter: and this is it right here? >> this is it. >> reporter: here was lodging, a cafe and a dance hall, a black paradise developed by anthony bruce's great, great grandparents. >> they were doing quite well for themselves, and unfortunately the community here they thought saw it as a threat. >> reporter: manhattan beach claimed it needed the land for a park, paid the bruises and others a pittance. while there is a park there now, the land sat vacant for more than 30 years. >> when you are robbed of your dignity. when you are robbed of your decent human rights and mistreated like that, i mean, it sticks with you for a long time. >> reporter: thursday, though, on the very land the family was run off of, they were welcome back. through a unanimous act of the california legislature, the land is being returned to them, a bold act of reparation. >> i'm absolutely convinced this will be catalytic. we're changing the dynamic of the debate in terms of righting wrongs. >> reporter: for now the bruce family wants to rent the life guard station back to the county. the property likely worth many millions of properties, but don't expect to see them back. >> i belief if anthony bruce or anybody else in the bruce family comes back here, we're going to see the same exact thing. i don't think it's changed, harry. i think it's still here and that's why we're not rushing so set up shop again. >> reporter: nbc news, harry smith. >> yeah, that last line. >> the family paid $1,200 for that property back in the 1920s. it is now worth more than $75 million, and it is now in the hands of that family again. >> a long time coming. all right. thanks for watching. >> we will be back tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. eastern time. velchi starts right now. well, today the biden agenda hangs in the balance. vote deadlines have come and gone. senators have left washington. it looks like a mess, but there is good reason to believe that it is unfolding exactly as it should be. new testimony behind closed doors and an explicit threat of criminal referrals for anyone who defies a subpoena. the january 6th committee has been busy. and the texas abortion back is back in court. why legal experts think this particular case stands a chance at circumventing the ban. and then i have been back on the road in honor of spanish heritage month, and i cannot wait to share the consideration i had with an incredible group of latin x texas ns with you. good morning to you. it is saturday, october the 2nd. we've got a big new development in the investigation into the deadly january 6th insurrection this morning. the house select committee investigating the capitol hill attack is putting some bite behind its bark. the chair of that committee, betty thompson, is threatening to issue so-called criminal referrals for people who defy the committee's subpoenas. >> the only thing i can say is the committee will probably, to those who don't agree to come in voluntarily, will do criminal referrals and let that process work out. >> now, that warning follows a wave of new subpoenas