to please members and committed to voting for it resolving issues from policy to price tag. the $3.5 trillion is almost certain to come down. speaker pelosi talked about the need to find agreement on this before infrastructure will move. >> may be tomorrow. >> may be tomorrow. >> right. >> in order to get the votes to pass it it sounds lie you need -- >> absolutely. you're right. >> that will happen this week? >> let me just say we are we paired, ready. >> the target is to reach an agreement this bill so the house can vote to pass the senate approved infrastructure bill but there's so much to resolve in a short period but this is the goal. >> the reality is contextually there's a lot at stake for the president. how's the president preparing for the days ahead? >> reporter: the president tried to bring together the left and the moderate wings of his party to find common ground to be built on. as well as speaking both with pelosi and with majority leader schumer in the senate but this point it really is in the hands of nancy pelosi and her vote counting operation with the white house taking more of a hands off approach over the weekend. i asked the white house what exactly president biden has been doing over this weekend to try to move this forward. white house officials saying that the administration is engaged deeply with members of congress but no details if the president tried to get things moving while at camp david over the weekend. the last time we heard from president biden is heading to camp david own friday. this is what he said about the negotiations. >> mr. president, do you have any greater clarity on -- infrastructure deal? >> yeah. but i'm negotiating with them, not you guys. >> do you think that the moderates would be the hold-up here? >> let's talk about it when i get it through. thank you. >> reporter: this put president biden in something of an uncomfortable situation as someone that campaigned on a uniter and thought about that in bipartisanship. not really that he would be facing these divisions within the party having to make tough choices about whether to ask the moderate wing of his party to try to adopt something beyond what they're comfortable with or ask the progressive wing to scale back the ambitions as they gear up for the 2022 midterm elections. >> you mentioned members of congress. talk us through where the members are and what the hang-ups right now? >> sure. on the infrastructure bill the hang-up is purely procedure. house members want to make sure that the reconciliation bill is agreed to. the reconciliation bill is where there are serious policy differences to be resolved. there's a question of prescription drug policy. there are issues of subsidies. the child tax credit. those $230 a month that parents get for raising kids. a group of democrats from new jersey and new york pushing to get the cap lifted. those are the things that have to be resolved and tax revenues, how much is raised and at what level the tax rates are set in order to fully or partially pay for this package. >> all right. sa hill and josh, thank you so much. also this hour, breaking news from montana where that amtrak derailment left at least three people dead. jake, where do things stand right now? this morning firefighters were rescuing passengers trapped on the train. where are they now? have the survivors been brought to safety? >> reporter: it is not clear exactly how many people were even on the train. amtrak is cautious on saying approximate of the passengers on board and suggested this is an active crash scene. the most injured were flown to the hospital. and survivors who could walk moved to a high school for examination and processing before being putt up in a hotel. we know that several people have been seriously injured and three fatalities and several others in the area. >> give us a sense why do investigators know what caused the derailment? >> reporter: it is not yet clear as the investigation gets under way. it was a beautiful clear saturday when this train went off the tracks at 3:00 p.m. local time and a straight stretch of track. typically derailments from high speeds happened on curves, been true in the past. we have heard just today from survivors of the crash that the train seemed to be moving at a high very rate and unsteadily way. a passenger described being picked up and thrown against the wall when the derailment happened. when we spoke to an ntsb board member she speculated the train cars themselves, the connection to the track. again this happened on a straightaway and has to come out in the ntsb investigation. >> jake ward on the ground there for us, thank you so much. on long island, new york, hundreds of mourners attending a service to honor the life of 22-year-old gabby petito. nbc's kathy park is live for us from new york right now. what did you hear from the people who attended today's service? what did they say? >> reporter: morgan, it is important to note just the turnout to see. this public memorial service at noon today and here we are in the 3:00 hour and we can show you there is still a steady stream of mourners coming by the funeral home, waiting in line and going inside to pay respecteds. obviously you have people from the community and knew gabby. this is her hometown and describe her as a beautiful, young woman whose life was tragedy cut short and then spoken to families that traveled as far away from wisconsin. they were following the headlines and felt compelled to come by together. her father described the eulogy earlier today. take a listen. >> i want you to take a look at these pictures. i want you to be inspired by them. that's what we're looking for. that's something that i want to see. if there's a trip that you guys want to take, take it. now. do it now while you got the time. if there's a relationship that you're in that might not be the best thing for you, leave it now. gabby is the most amazing person i have ever met. so if you're going to leave here today i ask you guys be inspired by the way she treated people. i couldn't be more proud as a father. >> reporter: obviously there is an outpouring of grief in the community but the focus is shifting to bring justice for gabby and seen that hash tag on people's shirts, posters throughout the area saying #justice for gabby. this weekend we have learned that the family has set up a foundation to help other families find missing children. morgan? >> think about justice. we know that law enforcement is frantically searching that florida reserve but now people especially notice public wonder if he was ever even there in the first place. is that now a concern shared by investigators? >> reporter: so police are doubling down saying they're following the information that brought them there and released to them by laundrie's family. we were told that he went hiking near the reserve and he went missing and that's why the search is centered in that sprawling 25,000-acre reserve and law enforcement there have pulled the resources together but also saying that there's a lot of -- a lot happening behind the scenes. issuing search warrants for data and there's a lot happening behind the scenes and law enforcement from different agencies working on the ground with hopes to tracking laundrie down. >> thank you so much. and while the world has been so intensely focused on if circumstances of gabby's death the circumstances sparked another equally important conversation. why missing people of color often do not receive the same media attention. just coming up this hour, "the washington post" reporter joins me now to discuss the reporting highlighting the cases and what those families say still needs to change. also just ahead, former donald trump is calling the january 6 attack on the capitol a hoax despite images like these. stay with us. >> it is now firmly a hoax. >> will the house committee investigating the attack subpoena trump or can he claim executive 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ashli babbitt. no reason whatsoever. our hearts are with that group. >> that's former president donald trump in georgia last night making baseless claims declears the insurrection a hoax. he then honored the woman shot and killed by capitol police during that violence as she attempted to get past a barricaded door coming as the house select committee investigates that attack and subpoenaed four of donald trump's closest advisories. jamie raskin spoke with ali value she just earlier. >> you would think that the people would cooperate with information about this. we'll get the information we need. we don't have too much of a doubt about that and encouraging people to come together with the information they have right now. >> joining me is chuck rosenberg. hess a msnbc contributor. thank you for being with us this afternoon and i have questions. we know that former president donald trump said in a statement he would fight the subpoenas but my question is can he actually do that since he is no longer in office? >> great question. he can claim executive privilege. in 1977 the supreme court said former presidents can claim executive privilege but there's a couple factors that work against him. one is the passage of time. . the less compelling the claim becomes. you wouldn't expect president carter to sustain the claim of executive privilege. someone that just left office perhaps. the courts look to the current president if he agrees with the claim. if the current president agrees the claim is more viable and if the current president disagrees then it is not and president biden has said he's not inclined to support a claim of privilege by former president president trump. he can claim it but it's probably not going to work. >> what's interesting is the commit tee its seems to be ramping up criticism of donald trump. could trump be compelled to testify? >> in theory yes. there's another question to ask which is, do you want that guy to testify? he doesn't seem to be well acquainted with reality. he has a hard time telling the truth and they should want to figure out what happened that day. where were the intelligence gaps? sort of like the 9/11 investigation after those attacks. i'm not sure president trump adds very must have to the mix so again could they subpoena him? in theory. do i think of him as a valuable witness? not at all. >> who would be the people that you would want to hear for? >> sure. i would like to people who are around president trump when these decisions were made. i'd like to hear from people inclined to tell the truth. i don't know much about the four people that are subpoenaed. i hope that anybody with information to come forward and want to cooperate. these four folks were all theoretically in the loop near the president so they could very well have relevant information. are they coming forward, tell the truth and cooperate? after the 9/11 attacks there was a commission. they operated in a bipartisan manner. they had a unanimous report. no dissenting report and incredibly valuable. they talked to over 1200 witnesses. so that's what we should want as a country. a thoughtful, broad, competencive investigation. we don't need another political circus and i'm afraid former president trump creates a political circus. >> is there really any mechanism to force people to testify? perhaps from the doj or elsewhere? >> sure. great question. congress does have subpoena authority and i think you would be crazy not to abide it. people who are subpoenaed who don't want to testify often end up testifying. i don't know a lot of people that raise their hands because they want to testify before congress but we have a duty to share information we have and truthfully. congress can subpoena individuals, documents, enforce the systems in court and people that don't want to testify often testify. there is a way to do this but i hope that people will simply cooperate. i also hope that people will give the congress what it 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you can go almost anywhere and get vaccinated billions of people around the world cannot. this year the world's expected to produce enough doses to vaccinate 70% of people in every single country but it is wrong that so much of the vaccine supply has only gone to just ten wealthy nations so far and not everyone else. it is just not okay. >> the steep increase in covid cases appears to have leveled off but doesn't show a most frightening aspect of the pandemic. a quarter million new covid cases reported this past week in children. kids below the age of 18 make up a quarter of all covid cases in the u.s. right now. children are less likely to die from covid but childhood hospitalizations are going up. so are reports of a dangerous comply plags of multisymptom inflammatory syndrome and it can be deadly. this past weekend there was a story about the complication and caused a 12-year-old boy to go from just the perfect picture of health to the icu in only about six days. his mother rachel gilbert joins us now. thank you for your time and how is your son? >> thank god he is totally recovered from this and doesn't have any long lasting effects from it and one of the lucky ones. so he is back to normal. back to being a normal teenager. >> the process was somewhat challenging i know for you all because you didn't know that he had covid. can you el us how and when you knew that he was in big trouble? >> we woke up on a sunday morning with a fever of 102 and not sure what it was. we thought maybe that have covid. when he was hospitalized he had the antibodies so he was covid negative so on the week went on, the fever never broke. eating less and less. had a lot of gi issues going on and became weak because he wasn't eating and losing a lot of nutrition so we made two trips to the pediatrician. they really didn't know what it was. we tested for covid, for flu. and eventually a friend of ours who was a doctor ap dane children're hospital said something we have been seeing in kids lately that have had covid and it might be this. >> i imagine just the not knowing and the confusion has to be some of the most difficult elements but mentioning that he had gi issues, what the the road to recovery like? can you talk about those challenges? >> yeah. so during the illness it was the fever, vomiting, diarrhea and then there was a rash on his ankle only about this big but they said that rashes or bloodshot eyes are symptoms so i could barely get him in the car to take him to the emergency room and he was very weak and the recovery he had to be -- they admitted him straight to the icu. he was in the hospital for seven days and he had to be followed by a cardiologist and rheumatologist after being discharged from the hospital. he was not allowed to do any sports and he -- basically ruined the basketball season. he is very athletic. very healthy. it is like we struggled to say why did it happen to him? we have four children. he is the oldest. didn't happen to the other kids and a random thing. >> i want to know your message to other parents because the numbers on this syndrome from august show 41 deaths. what do you want parents the know about this and hear from the story as a warning? >> i know a lot of people think that covid doesn't affect kids at all or very minor and they think maybe that it's kids who have asthma or allergies. and they might think masking in schools isn't necessary or that the vaccine isn't necessary. from a very healthy, athletic kid sometimes going from one year to the next with like a check-up without seeing the doctor the whole year this happened to him. he didn't have the covid symptoms but this developed and you never know who it will affect and why. i jokingly say it's the gift that keeps giving because you don't know who it will affect them. i have a friend right now who her son was in the hospital and now her daughter's in the hospital and her husband in the hospital. so my message is, the other thing about masking in schools is it is important because the kids are close to each other and it is better to have them learning in school. they learn better that way and the kids in general from the kids i know are not really complaining about the mask. it is not a big deal. they're there and it will reduce the amount of cases in school and want to keep the kids in the school. no one wants to go through what we went through a year ago i urge people to look into the vaccine and everybody eligible should get the vaccine. >> thank you for sharing your story and wish him continued good health going forward. thank you. >> thank you jirgs. a new podcast speaks with voters of donald trump and then joe biden in 2020 to hear what changed their minds about the former president. >> he went over the top. a lot of time just and he also pandered to a lot of his base trying to pit people against other. >> the focus group host joins me now to talk about what she gleaned from the conversations with swing state voters and 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so i can't vote for donald trump in '24. i can't vote for biden in '24 even though most of them thought he's not going to be able to run so it is almost as if they recognize they're in this purgatory for the foreseeable future. >> joining me now is sarah and host of the focused group podcast. what we are seeing here is not just rejection of trump but turning away from biden. based on what these voters told you who do you see winning them over? >> look. these voters, they hate trump and never vote for him and doan like biden either. they're up for grabs and what they're looking for i think is either somebody sufficiently moderate on the democrat side, potentially younger. they don't like kamala harris harris either. they're kind of still center right voters but learning that the republican party is now wholly owned by trump so they're looking over at the democrats and saying, hey, what do you got for me? if it's somebody really progressive they're not up for it. take pennsylvania in 2022. if connor lamb, if he is the one to win the nomination for the democrats running against shawn parnell lamb would win the swing voters but somebody more progressive they might not go for it. >> when you say up for grabs i want to play more where some republican voters express feeling just lost within their own party. take a listen to this. >> as republican. who are they? the people that speak the loudest support trump and think i've moved in many ways over to the middle in a lot of social issues and the left so far left and the right so far right. >> it is hard to find myself a place in the republican party without drawing connotations. you tell somebody you're a republican and think of you as the extreme. i don't want to associate with that. do i consider myself that anymore? >> this sort of identity crisis is something i hear a lot on the trail and reporting and seems like physically conservative voters that dislike the culture war talk that enveloped the party since trump took office but if anything the fever is spreading so how do they respond to the culture war? >> yeah. they're kind of sad and i think that they find themselves really unmoored by the idea of sharing a political coalition with people like marjorie taylor greene or matt gaetz. that's not who they want to be associated with. they hope that a john kasich or palm ryan will save them but that's not who the base of the republican party wants anymore. they're different from the base voters. they're all vaccinated. they think that what happened on january 6 is terrible. they think the election was free and fair and not how people who voted for trump in 2020 talk. they think the election was stolen and suspicious of the vaccine and not a comfortable political coalition but is the democratic party putting up candidates to pick the people up? they still are sort of, yeah, fiscally responsible and so neither political coalition totally fits them but a moderate democratic candidate could pick them up. 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"the washington post" reporter kim bellware joins me now. a father said it seems like we are being seen as less important. why do parents say that's the case and what do they say needs to happen to change it? >> yeah. talking to mr. robinson it was so emotional this week because he's looking for his son for months and didn't want to take anything from the missing person search for gabby and he said he sympathized because as a father he knows how painful it is and same time he said why couldn't we see the same level of resources for that? what we saw in the petito case should be the model for every person's case. >> i like what you said about the model and you write the victims that are white, young and seemingly innocent gain more immediate attention than others. at least 710 indigenous people went missing in wyoming alone. in 2020 the minorities were reported missing. what do you attribute that very clear bias to and do you think that will change now how we cover these missing people? >> a lot of it does have to do with long standing systemic factors. you look at how overwhelmingly the news media is white. we look at people that look like us and what families have and coo of cultural capital who has connections to people who can help organize flyers, more powerful people in the community to bring attention to the issues. this might be changing. one of the helpful experts i talked to is a louisiana bassed professor that studies the relationship of missing persons and she said this is the first time after the disappearance to see a sustained discussion about the disparities that both consumers in the stories to pay attention to and reporters and producers have to think about and how can we be more equitable and fair in the coverage. >> this is a moment of self examination for all us of in the media to rethink not only how we as an industry talk about missing people but do you think it will also change who we talk to about missing people? >> i hope so because something that struck me about the families who were really struggling and hurt that their loved one's cases didn't get the same coverage is these individuals were missing are themselves incredible people. accomplished, beloved. a lot of cases checked some of the same boxes as that missing white woman that they're attractive. i think that there's going to be hopefully more of a gut check saying who isn't included in the coverage looking at the stories we aren't telling. >> and who we tell the stories for. we have to be mindful of who we are trying to attract in the stories and the role of social media can be argued that petito found in part due to the internet sleuths combing through clues. could social media play a role in cases that have been overlooked by traditional media and law enforcement and change the fate of missing people of color? >> it is possible. this is something that i asked the professor and she said that it is true there's more segments in social media to, people to build momentum in smaller groups whether that's an affinity group, a racial group geographically and borderless and said it is still kind of subject to the same patterns of traditional news media so the faces that are conventionally attractive, younger seemingly innocent and white and female get more clicks and shares but there is a possibility that you can see all of the energy kind of bubbling up like we saw in the petito cases fuel cases. >> we also know that perceptions of attraction and innocence is racialized in this country and it should not be incumbent about people of color to find themselves. kim of "washington post," thank you because i can tell you your article is shared so many times and opened up a broad discussion that this industry and this country needed to have so thank you. >> thank you for having me. a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure deal is slated in the house tomorrow but the fate of that $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill is uncertain. north carolina democratic congresswoman ross joins us to talk about what cuts she is willing to make to get a deal done. hurricane sam across the atlantic. don't go anywhere. the best things america makes are the things america makes out here. the history she writes in her clear blue skies. the legends she births on home town fields. and the future she promises. when we made grand wagoneer, proudly assembled in america, we knew no object would ever rank with the best things in this country. but we believed we could make something worthy of their spirit. frequent heartburn? not anymore. b the prilosec otc two-weekke challenge is helping people love what they love again. just one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn. because life starts when heartburn stops. take the challenge at prilosecotc dot com. 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