in with marjorie taylor green. as well as the state of play of what you were describing. she is telling us what's exactly going to happen on monday take out all the spuns tell us exactly what's going to happen. >> lawrence, you're a keen observer of these things. do you think we're heading towards the bill not passing on monday unless something crazy happens and comes back in conjunction with the big bill later? >> i can't use the word definitely with anything we're watching on capitol hill now. this has never been done before which is the thing i've been saying from the start about it. it was remarkable to me how smoothly it went at the early stages. especially, for example, the budget resolution. every democrat voted for the $$3.5 trillion budget resolution in the house and in the senate. any already voted for that number. they're now -- they're now some of them are saying well maybe not that number. and -- well the time to raise that was back when you cast your first vote on the number. so, you know, they're jumbling up the order of -- you're supposed to have that confusion earlier in the bill. and they're having it later in the bill than usual. i'm a spectator. i'm just up here here in the grandstand watching this one. i don't know what the next play is. we'll see what happens. >> i mean, that is kind of the way things go in life if things start off easier than you expect, don't jinks it this can't last. usually it means this can't last. whatever seems easy now you pay for with unexpected complexity later maybe that's the natural order. >> it downturns out the draft document you had last night was the real thing. >> we knew in advance. at least we believed that we had the legitimate what was an authentic draft of the audit report which had the hilarious banana peel like slap stick comedy results, which was oops, trump lost by even more than we thought. and we had that draft report yesterday. and we didn't know if they would change the draft report. and make the final report substantially different from that. we figured we would just wait less than 24 hours and see what they put ou out. but in fact the bottom line held. and now they are trying to turn it into something other than the huge own goal that it was. we'll see. trump doing his big rally tomorrow in georgia, i'm not going to watch it. but i'm wary that it might be even more crazy banana times than usual. >> well, i have a theory about why the cyberninja count came out the way it did. and it's -- and i'm launching into that in my opening remarks here. >> okay. >> and why they delivered no real variation. i mean, this tiny little number difference between, you know, the official count and their count. and i think it actually started -- i think we were headed toward this outcome starting in july, because of a bunch of things surrounding the cyberninjas and the cyberninja in chief, the guy running the whole thing. so. >> well, now i want to get out of your way i want to hear you say that goo here we go right now thank you rachel. >> thank you. yesterday, the cyberninja in chief, a man named daulgs logan received a letter from the united states house of represent he was committee on overstigt and reform requesting his testimony as a hearing on october 7th. he is probably not showing up for the hearing because it was a request and not a subpoena. but if and when it gets to the subpoena stage he has to show up for a hearing in the house of representatives. the cyberninja in chief would then have had to ask himself, is he going to tell the truth or is he going to risk perjury and going to prison in order to claim that donald trump actually won the presidential election in arizona where the cyberninjas just finished what they called an audit of the election? and the time for the cyberninja in chief to begin to begin asking himself that question was actually on july 14th when the house committee on oversight and reform sent the first letter to douglas logan. andsfers letter requested nine categories of documents remoted to cyberninja ace audit procedures, funding sources, communications with outside parties regarding the audit that may exert improper influence on the company. well, those documents if turned over to congress could create very, very big problems for douglas logan. and so the douglas logan did not comply with that request. and so on august 22nd, the committee sent another letter and he still didn't comply. but since july, since july, douglas logan has been on notice that the federal government through congress wants to look very closely at his work and all of his homework on his so-called audit in arizona. and so when the time finally came today, douglas logan was unwilling to tell the big lie for donald trump. >> if he if we look at the presidential race, trump actually loses 261 votes from the official votes. biden gains 99. and jorgance loses 204 votes. and, again, these are all very small numbers when we're talking about 2.1 million ballots. very small discrepancies. we can say that the -- the ballots provided to us to count in the coliseum very accurately correlate with the official canvas numbers. >> imagine if he said anything else. imagine if he had said anything else. of course there is no reason to believe any of the numbers that the cyberninjas audit just referred to. because it was not an audit. he could have made up the numbers. there is every reason to believe the election numbers that arizona election officials released last year -- what if republicans controlled the house of representatives now? there would not have been bun one letter send to the cyberninja in chief demanding anything. would he have joined donald trump's big lie in announcing the result of his work in arizona if he did not feel fear being put under oath in the house of represent testifies? we'll never know. donald trump can't control the house of representatives now because republicans are not in control. donald trump is in control of most republican elected officials in this country. but that leaves him in control of nothing now in washington. and so the cyberninja in chief may find himself under oath in washington at some point, talking about what he did in arizona. and that could be one reason why what he did in arizona today was say the election results were completely accurate. this situation also leaves donald trump in control of nothing in the state of new york. in a newly unsealed court order required the trump organization to comply with subpoenas issued by new york state attorney general letitia james and new york attorney general court whereas the document collection and production and response to office of attorney general subpoenas, the trump organization by september 30th, 2021 shall provide a report in reasonable detail of actions taken to preserve, collect and produce hard copy and electronic documents responsive to the office of attorney general subpoenas. the office of attorney general reasonably concludes after october 15th, 2021 that the trump oppression has not met its obligations to comply with any subpoenas outstanding as of the date here of, then the trump organization will retain at its expense an independent third party, e-discovery firm to oversee the identification collection and review of electronically stored information responsive to the office of attorney general subpoenas. perhaps the cyberninjas could help donald trump search for the documents new york's attorney general wants to see. they're available now. in november donald trump said, if we can audit the total votes cast we will easily win arizona. in july at the same time that the cyberninjas were getting hit with the very first letter from the house oversight committee donald trump said this about what the cyberninjas were doing. when the real numbers are released people will be shocked. and today donald trump actually said nothing, not a word. but the people who type his lies for him produced a written statement in his name saying, arizona must immediately decertificate their 2020 presidential election results. leading off for discussion is democrat congresswoman eric swalwell of california. served as house impeachment manager in the second impeachment trial of donald trump and is the author of "end game, inside the impeachments of donald j. trump." thank thank you for joining us tonight. i appreciate it. i want your reaction to what happened in arizona today. >> well, lawrence, they confirmed what fox news said on election night. that joe biden won arizona. also that the sun sets in the west. the giants are the best team in baseball and my children are monsters. so it seems they are aligned with the truth. and the best thing we can do lawrence is shine light on all the falsecies that donald trump and the election denier party, the republicans continue to put out there. >> there is the kind of compelling developing theory, rachel referred to the “washington post” op-ed piece about this today. what we are seeing in all the represent counts is kind of a rehearsal for the next presidential election so that people get accustomed to the idea that all counts have to be recounted in order for donald trump to win. and -- and that there is no limit on the calendar about when recounts must be completed. >> that's right, lawrence, than. and that's why the january 6th commission is so important. that commission does not have the same pressures of time or the pressure of the senate that the impeachment managers had. and so to the extent that they can show the world not only what donald trump was doing to cause a violent insurrection but the lies that he was putting out to stop the steal, as he called it, in the days leading up to the election, and then what he has done since is really important, really level set for the country what's at stakes if we allow an election denier party to govern. this is an anti-majority party as well. they're anti-majority in the senate. they're anti-majority in the way that they have rigged and you know rushed through appointments to the supreme court. and they're now anti-majority in the way they continue to put anti-voter legislation in across the country. >> we have seen these four subpoenas issued to the first four -- for the january 6th committee. has the house learned about how to enforce their subpoenas more quickly? we saw incredible delays on that during the trump administration. >> the first lesson i think they learned was not to give people an opportunity to say no. at least for the january 6th commission, to not make it voluntary. to just issue the subpoena so you don't lose time asking dishonorable people to be honorable. but if they don't comply, to seek as was alluded to by the chair today, criminal contempt proceedings. from a department of justice that i think will treat this as they would treat any other lawful subpoena that is not honored. and of course to press the case in the skorts knowing that on the mcgahn case at least we have recent precedent they should testify. as i said lawrence they have time on their side. it's important that before we go into another major election the country knows just who the people are and why we can't trust them to govern or trust them to honor an election result again. >> the biden administration seems to have clarified today that they will review what they -- they used the phrase on case by case basis, claims of executive privilege when it comes to handing over documents to the -- to the committee. what are you expecting as the responsible froech to in. >> that is the responsible approach. what would be irresponsible would be to give donald trump any benefit of the doubt or to, you know, have a standard that, well, we should just sweep this under the rug. in many ways what the carter administration and -- or actually the ford administration did for president nixon after all of his, you know, acts ever corruption. there is no sweeping under the rug for what donald trump did. there is no rug in trump tower big enough to do that. we must make sure that we hold him to the same standard we would hold any criminal suspect in this country. and as it relates to executive privilege, i think they should apply it with that lens as well. >> and are there situations where -- where you can imagine that there would be legitimate executive privileges claims here? >> well, especially as it relates to what is inside the bounds of being president. you know, making decisions around foreign policy, making decisions around appointments, you know, when they're free from corruption or fraud or, you know, crime, yes, i would say they should assert those privileges, because they would want them for themselves or any future president republican or democratic. i happen to believe when you incite -- when you assemble, incite aband i and aim a mob at the capitol to help you steal an election that's far outside the bounds. >> before you go, let me get your assessment where things stand on the two track biden infrastructure legislation. there is a lot of spuns about what happens on monday. >> well, lawrence, we started with the baseball analogy with the giants. there is no person in, you know, politics i'd rather have the ball in their hand for the last shot than speaker pelosi. i know she is working to line everything up so we can bring it hope home and deliver not only on infrastructure but on paid family leave childcare tax credit, in-home support services and she is working with the colleagues to do that. i trust her with the shot at the buzzer. >> is it possible that she would bring the bipartisan bill to a vote as -- as she had promised on monday and let that vote lose if -- because there is a significant portion of the progressive side of the party that's not ready to vote for it? >> you know, that's up to her, lawrence. she typically has not lost a vote. that's why she is so masterful as speaker. typically she puts the legislation forward when she has the votes. but, again, i would just stick to the standard, don't bet against pelosi because she's got the future, our children and the country in mind. and i'm not going to bet against her as i go into the weekend. >> congressman eric swalwell, thank you for joining us. really appreciate it. >> my pleasure. and joining sus daniel goldman, the former impeachment juriy majority counsel and for the first impeachment trial of donald trump and former federal prosecutor. damaged goldman i want torg to the issue of executive privilege as it applies to the investigation of the house january 6th special committee. what do you see -- what should we look for as this unfolds? >> well, i think you can expect a lawsuit to intervene by donald trump to assert executive privilege and prevent former white house officials from testifying. the problem that he is going to run into is it's no longer his executive privilege to assert. it belongs with the office of the presidency which currently is joe biden. but as we know and as we have seen, the merits of a lawsuit are really irrelevant to donald trump. what he wants is to get it caught up in court where delay is the name of the game. and that's what he did in the last congress. i was part of the house intelligence committee when we subpoenaed the deutsche bank records for donald trump in march of 2019. and i don't believe congress has gotten them yet. so this is his playbook. and it's what he is going to do, even though it's meritless, because it appears based on information that the press secretary jen psaki said today, it appears the biden administration is not asserting executive privilege over donald trump's conversations with people in the white house and certainly not people outside the white house where executive privilege wouldn't apply like steve bannon but that the biden administration is not asserting executive privilege, which really leaves no basis for the administration to not turn over the documents. >> so, in a case where one side has absolutely no legitimate legal claim, how can it take years to adjudicate a situation like this if the law is so clear that this is entirely up to joe biden on in question of executive privilege? >> because the courts move at their own pace. and they're very frequently three levels of courts, as a minimum two levels of court. and the -- the problem is that there is nothing that forces a judge to expedite a -- any cause or any litigation. and so what you run into is it's out of the hands of congress, out of the hands of the executive branch and in the judiciary. adam schiff and a number of other chairman and chairwoman of the house investigative kms kbts introduced this week a protecting our democracy act. as parts of that there would be an expedited level to enforce those that the judiciary has to abide by. that's not yet law. that's an outflow from donald trump's delay tactics through litigation while he was president. >> i mean, it really is up to the individual judges it seems because in watergate in 1974 it was remarkable to watch how quickly judge circumstance aire made rulings went into the appeals system, went to the united states supreme court. this happened within weeks that you would get these responses all the way through the system, things we now see take several years. >> it's possible to move that quick. it's not that it it's not possible. sometimes it takes a long time to research the law and write out a thorough opinion, yes. but if you want to do that quickly, takes a week. it's a week of work at some point. it's it's really up to the judges to recognize the urgency of the issue and to see through the delay tactics. and i think that the -- the lack of merit in the forthcoming lawsuits will encourage judges to rule more quickly than they might otherwise, because they have to recognize that this is simply a delay tactic to -- to basically run out the clock on this congress and run out the clock on the january 6th committee. >> what have you learned? what do you think the house should have learned learned by now on how to speed these investigations? >> well, they did something interesting this week, which surprised me a little bit. but i think it's quite smart. they went straight for the jugular in subpoenaing the, you know, four people who are arguably closest to donald trump as part of this whole big lie. and ordinarily in an investigation you start a little bit lower and work your way up so you have more information. you try to get documents so you'd have information to confront witnesses about. but i think they recognized that this is going to go to litigation. and if any wait like bob mueller did with subpoenaing donald trump until the end of the investigation, they won't have time to let it go through the courts. so they went straight for the key witnesses, expecting there to be litigation. and now they'll do the rest of the investigation with people who are cooperative and they'll gather all that information so that in four, pfeifer, six months when hopefully the litigation is wrapped up, they'll be well prepared to interview these witnesses when the courts rule in favor of the turning over the materials and having the witnesses testify. so i think that is a lesson that the house has learned. we're not going to do the traditional thing work our way up, we go first to subpoena people we know aren't cooperative and then back to the beginning. >> and we now see in my report at the beginning of this hour, that a letitia james, the attorney general of the state of new york, is dealing with trump delay in the litigation that she is involved with with the trump business. and she had to go into court and have the court order the trump organization to actually comply with preexisting subpoenas and -- and behave on schedule. and if they don't do it then they're going to send in a subpoena to search their records specializing in this kind of thing to search the trump records to force the compliance with the subpoenas. but what we see in that right there is several, several months of delay in the enforcement of a subpoena. >> that's right. and that is the playbook. and we know it by now. it's not news to us. it's not new. but it is a pretty remarkable notion that this judge would order some third company to go seize documents, not pursuant to a search warrant with, just because they are refusing to comply. you know, in court there are adverse inferences where if someone takes the fifth amendment, or doesn't produce information, that they should have produced, you -- you can take an adverse inference against them that that information or the testimony or the documents would be harmful. and it's -- we'rety point unfortunately where we're so used to donald trump using these bad faith, disingenuous delay tactics, that it doesn't seem to have the impact any more that it would ordinarily do. and i don't think we should lose track of the critical issue here, which is that donald trump fundamentally does not believe in the rule of law. and everyone who follows him and who preaches about the big lie, and who advocates for the so-called audits, this is bad faith. this is not bleaching in the rule of law. this is not believing in our democracy. and let's not lose sight of that as we get wrapped up in the details as to what the audit says as an example. >> daniel goldman, thank you very much for joining us tonight. always appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, why is the next trump vote recount happening in texas? 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or is there something more serious going on here? joining us now are texas state representative jasmine crock et, a civil rights attorney and texas state representative jessica gonzalez, vice chair of the elections committee. representative gonzalez, what is going on here? and how did this happen? who authorized this recount? >> look, lawrence, the bottom line is that here in texas the governor is putting party over the people by passing laws and implementing bad policies in our state that once again are based on the big lie. so, you know, it's like our state is ultimately run by the de facto governor, the disgraced twice impeached former president who thinks he should be in the white house. and the governor is simply doing so to cater to a small portion of the electorate because he is worried about the primary election. trump requested from governor abbott to conduct the forensic audit. a few hours later the governor announced they were going to conduct the audit in four of the biggest counties in texas. >> representative crock et, what do you see at work here? >> man, i see complete idiots. i don't know what else to say. i mean, it's really a shame. because we have so many real issues attacking texans. if the voters actually had a say so in how the money was to be spent, i don't think anyone wants their money spent on something like doing an audit for an election in which even if donald trump had not won the state of texas it wouldn't change the outcome of anything at this point in time because we have a president. his name is joe biden. and that's that. i don't understand why we are wasting taxpayer dollars on this when we need to put money into things like education. when we need to put money into things like our failing grid. if he wanted to do what texans want, texans want to be safe. texans want to get back to some sense of normalcy. instead he misplaced priorities. that's exactly why his ratings have fallen in the way that they have. >> let's listen to what harris county judge hidalgo told rachel maddow in the last hour. >> i have our county attorney here looking at legal ongss. it's not clear to us that there is a statute under which the state can conduct the audit. but we recognize that the state supreme court will be very friendly to whatever claims the state makes. we also are calling on legislatures not to fund this. this is the time where they should look at their moral compass look at who they are as public servants, the legislatures in auvrt and not fund that audit because they need to approve the funding for it. finally we need the federal government tagged. this has gone too far. >> representative gonzalez, is this legal? >> i think that's a great question. i mean, currently the secretary of state, i mean it's vacant. the previously secretary of state said our elections were safe and secure and stepped down and another appointed couldn't get dpirmtd by the senate and ultimately resigned. and currently there is an interim person serving there. but that isn't -- that's a great question. the governor when he announced he was doing the forensic audit did mention the legislature was going to fund it. we don't know what that amount is going to be. we know at least like with arizona they spent at least i think it was 5.7 million. and this is definitely going to cost us a lot more. because that you are auditing four of our largest counties. >> representative crockett, trying to find a rational in trump demands isn't easy. but when you look at this it seems like donald trump wants to deliver the message that elections are not over on election night and they're not over when votes are certified by states. and they're not over when the electoral college votes. and they're not over after inauguration day. it seems like he wants to have voters just ready for anything that might happen after election day. >> yeah, i mean, he is simply trying to make sure he stages his next coup. everyone knows that donald trump wants to run for president yet again. and what we saw out of the texas legislature was an attempt to make sure that there were some back door way to overturn elections. what we saw out of georgia was a back door way to make sure that those that sit on those elections boards could then be kicked out of their positions if they don't come up with the right answers. what this is is this idea that the election isn't over until donald trump says it is. well i have news for you, 45. it's over. you lost. we need to stop playing these games. because the american people deserve better. of all the elected officials. and sadly enough, right now we need focused on the fact that we continue to lose lives. we need not play games. and this is all the more reason why we went to d.c. this is all the more reason that we need to the u.s. senate to stand up and do what's right. we made sure that we delivered a majority in this country. and it is a majority of democrats. and it's time for them to do their job. because we have done everything we could? the state of texas. but you see what we're dealing with. dealing with crazies. the only thing that can happen now is for our federal -- legally elected let me be clear. federally legally elected officials to step in and save our country and save democracy. >> representative gonzalez, so let's play this out. governor abbott is going to create this recount that's going to cost who knows how much money, that's then going to produce a count of the votes that's virtually identical to what already exists as the count of the votes. how does he explain in a few months from now, the expense and the effort that the state went to to show that the vote count was right which is something we already knew? >> to show texans that water is indeed wet, right? again, i mean, who knows. we've heard throughout the entire battle, you know, with -- in fighting for our democracy here in texas, with this voter suppression bill we were fighting for this whole year, that there is not a problem. there is not an issue here in texas. there is not widespread voter fraud. we heard the secretary of state say that. we've heard the governor himself say that. so really this is all just a witch hunt. it's a witch hunt to keep the republicans in power because they know that the texas is getting more and more diverse. the census numbers show that. they are doing this out of fear. and we're already squandering tons ever taxpayer dollars on this ridiculous border wall in texas as well. so you know, i think that elections do have consequences. i think he has to answer the questions come around elections. >> texas representatives jasmine cataract and jessica gonzalez, thank you for joining us on this friday night. really appreciate it. >> thank you for having us. >> thank you the. >> congresswoman deb by dingle had a day, trying to help bring democrats together on the biden infrastructure bills and congresswoman dingle had a few choice words with a heckler on the steps of the capitol named marjorie taylor greene. congresswoman deb by dingle joins us next. b by dingle joins us next. every day can be extraordinary with rich, creamy, delicious fage total yogurt. welcome to allstate. where you can pay a little less and enjoy the ride a little more. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ now, get new lower auto rates with allstate. because better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today. 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why can't you -- i was angry and it was better me that some others, i think. i don't want people to think that they should yell at each other. but i'll tell you something i've been bullied many times and i'm at a point i don't like bullies. when you have to speak up against them, i will. and that's what was happening on the steps of the capitol today. >> i don't want to belabor this. but for the audience's perspective on this, what she was doing is something that has never happened before. i mean, no one would ever dream of doing -- no member of the house would ever dream of doing that kind of thing. so the shock level that anyone who has been around there would experience just in seeing that is almost indescribable. >> it is indescribable. it's disrespectful. i feel in talking to my colleagues on the other side of the aisle, many my close friends backup. but what bothered me more than anything was the hatred. and it's the anger we see dividing us as a country. it was there on the capitol steps. she was very much trying to disrupt another colleague, disrupt a press conference with a lot of my colleagues. you just -- you treat each other with respect and civility. it's not right. i -- you know, i don't want children to watch this or other people to think we should yell at people. but i think people have to stand up when you gist need to finally stand up to somebody and just say why can't you be civil? why do you feel to do this? and i will say she did leave. >> okay. we can't take the suspense any more you have to tell us everything that's going to happen on monday. >> this is what i'm going to say to you. failure is not an option. we have to get this figured out. we are the old will rogers saying people would weak stomachs shouldn't watch sausage or laws being made. we are in the ugliest part of watching the sausage being made. but the we are meeting tomorrow. if we don't deliver, absolutely everybody is going to be in trouble. so i don't think it's going to be a pretty weekend. i think there are a lot of discussions. but we have no choice but to get to this done. >> the white house issued a readout within the last hour of the president's call with speaker pelosi and with chuck schumer saying in effect that they feel there is broad agreement on the principles of the reconciliation bill and a recognition of the urgency to address economic challenges of families are facing. they agreed to stay in touch over the course of the weekend. that pretty standard readout for that kind ever call. it's actually the kind of call i suspect is happening multiple times a day with all three of them. but clearly the white house trying to convey that everyone is working on this, everyone is at their desks. and they're not going to let an hour go by where they're not trying to make some progress here. >> and i think it's very important. i think it's important that the president engage with house members. there are two houses ever the congress, the senate and the house of representatives. you talk to a couple of members all the time. but there are a whole lot of members in the middle that know what's at stake. they want to know what's happening, be communicatesed with. and i think that's one of the most important things happening over the course of the next few days. but failure is not an option. and every democrat needs to know that. >> as i was saying to rachel at the beginning of the hours i was kind of surprised how smoothly this went in the earlier stages of the legislation. i was very surprised that the budget resolution passed reasonably easily with democratic -- all the democratic votes in both house and senate. that budget resolution was the framework. that budget resolution was a $$3.5 trillion budget resolution. and if people were not ready to support 3.5 trillion, that would have been the normal time to try to work that out. what happened between all the time when all the democrats voted for 3.5 trillion and tonight? >> well, first of all, i'm not going to tell you what i think of the united states senate right now. but we began to see some senators who expressed their concerns about the amount of money. and throwing a lot of bombs. it's not constructive. i'm not going to point fingers at anybody. but i want -- we need both bills. i want to be clear on that. we need fix roads and bridges. and we need to get the led out of pipes and broad band but there is not enough money in the bipartisan bill to accomplish what we need to get done. you know, i was with the white house with the president on electric vehicles where he set a kboel of 50% electric vehicles by the year 2030. we're not getting that if we don't build out the ev infrastructure. that's in the other bill. and i could go through a list of things like that. there are a lot of things that we've got to get done. people have to come together, understand what's in there. quite frankly everybody needs to be talking to the entire caucus too. there's been too much of people talking to a few groups of people and not including the whole caucus. i think you'll see the whole caucus included. the next few always an honor to join us. it is especially good to see you tonight after this long day for you on capitol hill. >> it was a long day. so thank you for those kind words. it does help at the end of the day. thank you. >> thank you very much. coming up, the alone governor of hawaii who is also an emergency room physician has been attacked by anti-mask and anti-vaccine protesters who gathered outside his home for weeks and months. one of the founders of that group now has covid-19 and now says the lieutenant governor was right and he was wrong. a wise lieutenant governor, josh green, joins us next. , josh green, joins us next for what you need. pay sorry? 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>> well, mostly i felt terrible for him. he caught covid and got very sick. he and his wife ended up in the hospital. that's something that makes you feel sad when you're a physician. i knew all along they were protesting outside our building without masks and they were obviously unvaccinated, that they themselves would need care. so that is bad and also, i knew they were scaring other individuals from becoming vaccinated. hawaii is a very well vaccinated state. 90% of all those eligible in our state have initiated vaccination. i did worry about those individuals. it is good that he came around and he's now disavowing that organization. >> he also said, i think we should be more concerned about safety than about protesting. i think people should not be getting together in large groups for the purpose of protesting. and this is one of the issues that we've been considering. who can deliver the message effectively to people who don't believe anything that the respected authorities are saying about this? it seems like this could possibly be a turning point for some people in hawaii. >> it truly is. when the leader of an anti-vaccination movement gets sick and is desperate in a hospital bed on oxen and watches dozens of people get intubated or into the intensive care unit has a change of heart, every person i've taken care of in the emergency room, they say the same thing. i wish i had been vaccinated. people should listen. this should that be a political issue. this should be an issue that americans come together. we have done that in hawaii. we don't make it political. at least, as little as we can. we kind of push politics out of this. i know the country is wrestling with this. there are a lot of states out there where the governors have not been promoting vaccination or containing large gathering sizes. a will the of these states have only 32 to 44% vaccinated and they're about to see a tidal wave of health care problems. a tidal wave of covid patients in their hospitals and they don't have the doctors to take care of them. what is the state of the protest situation at your home now and how are your children dealing with it? >> my children are tough. they're great. my daughter maya is 14. and my son sam is 10. at first, it was a little distressing to them because terrible things were being said about their dad. but i explained to them that we have to be understanding and tolerant and educated. we have to base our thoughts on science and that's how we get through it. i think they were somewhat gratified when that person changed his tune and decided to support our position. overall, like i said earlier, if bringing some attention on vaccinations through this rage toward us happens, then it is okay. more people got vaccinated in the state of hawaii. i think we're the most vaccinate state now, at least for initial vaccinations. i hope other states will take this to heart. there's so much information out there about the drugs that are not men for covid. there's. so misinformation about the vaccine which means many states don't vaccinate their people and they should have to, they should never do this, they'll have to ration care. these are crises. and we have to avoid these. we're better than that in america. >> dr. josh green, thank you very much. thank you for joining us. really appreciate it. >> my honor. thank you. >> dr. josh green gets the last word. "the 11th hour" starts now. >> good evening once again. day 248 of the biden administration. and the stage appears to be set for what could be a legal showdown between the current white house and former president trump. today the white house indicated that it is willing to cooperate with the house committee investigating the capitol riot on january 6th. that committee is expected to request donald trump's records from that day which could help wmer

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