new pressure coming from the january 6th maga riot probe and that pressure is coming directly onto the biden white house which may release information on trump's actions leading up to january 6th. now, for all the talk about norms over those past four years that we lived through what you see here is something a little different. this new congress may push this new president, joe biden, into breaking sort of a norm here. presidents are very protective of their secrecy including the secrecy of other presidents, many presidents know someday if they go on and live normal lives they will end up being ex-presidents and so there's kind of a secrecy pact. but i want to tell you why this is our top story. this is a change and many in washington say it's long overdue and necessary because as with so many things related to donald trump, this feels different. congress has subpoena power to probe an actual insurrection and few presidents would actually seriously argue, indeed maybe no president except donald trump would ever argue that office's great power or secrecy can be properly exercised to end democracy itself. so that is why there are these reports and a lot of expectations that the biden white house might discard that normal privilege and secrecy and release whatever it has on the most recent occupant of the office who disgraced himself on january 6th. i want to be clear legally the former president donald trump can still fight and test the approach here, he can ask the courts to intervene or recognize an ongoing executive privilege but this is the showdown that many expected when congress did move forward and say they're really going to investigate the heck out of what went down on january 6th. if you think we have the whole story without the subpoenas and investigations done that's unlikely. top investigator adam schiff also saying the committee will go straight to subpoenas for any resistant witnesses. they're not going to wait around. no word on if that might include nancy pelosi's counterpart who was dodging related questions today. >> how will you respond to that subpoena and are you advising your fellow members of congress that could face subpoenas as to how they should responsibility. >> i haven't been served any subpoena but just goes to show, there are more -- this is more about politics than anything else. >> not exactly an answer but there are answers from many other powerful parts of the government. seven different federal agencies responded or cooperated with committee demands for evidence on this issue. meanwhile there's new reporting that shows how donald trump's failed end game also overlapped with the very operative who shaped his 2016 campaign. i'm talking about the formerly indicted and then pardoned operative steve bannon. he we're learning saw the big lie not as necessarily a way to keep donald trump in power, bannon knows how government works, he maybe didn't see a way that was going to magically end an election but bannon says he did see this as kind of a cynical way to undercut biden's future legitimacy so something that wouldn't work to keep trump in power would still work to undercut the next guy. >> steve bannon over at the willard hotel, we need to kill the biden presidency in the crib. that was the phrase based on our reporting this that conversation. >> yeah, because it's legitimacy. let's look at the economist poll, the economist, not the war room, not recover, the economist, 42% of the american people, 4-2 percent of the american people think biden did not win the presidency legitimately. uh-huh. it killed itself. >> or did it? now, look, some of this may to be real sound like the same old fake tough studio gangster talk from discredited maga figures. and i get that. and you may say, well, what are we talking about or why is this the news? because some of that does just reek of the past. here's why this matters. here's why you have to keep an eye on this as a citizen, as a civic matter, not talking about partisan politics but whether we continue to function as a democracy. there are some really important disturbing new signs that the republican party's future will remain linked to these attacks on democracy even reinforcing them. this report i want you to know about tonight, nonpartisan reuters, the wire service, they have this special report where they looked at all these electionness key battleground states and found in up coming races for state jobs overseeing elections, the majority of republican candidates running are still publicly on record in denial about trump's loss, about the results of the very kinds of elections they are running to oversee, 10 out of 15 secretaries of state candidates in battleground states on the republican side wrongly claiming that the last election was either stolen from trump or some further investigation is needed. those are the people who could be in power deciding whether to honor election results or try tricks to overturn them. donald trump's effort to overthrow the results was sloppy, disorganized. but across republican party leadership the response has not been to put that sloppy failed embarrassment behind they will or to say that was the past or to say that was just him, this was not necessarily automatically predictable last november or even on january 6th when you had sort of the grassroots rage. this is the elite leadership of the modern republican party and its response has been to try to prepare and ready a more organized long-term framework to overturn future elections. with the blueprint, the propaganda and even as i showed you these candidates all running in plain sight. i want to bring in our experts emily is a staff writer "the new york times" magazine and ellie. is this about the past or the future? >> it's entirely about the future. look, in apartheid, south africa, they didn't let the black people vote. why? because if they did the white people wouldn't have stayed in power as we saw when apartheid was over, the white people weren't able to stay in power. the modern gop in this country sees the same thing happen to them. they are losing their stranglehold, their majority on the country and understand that if everybody gets the vote and if everybody who has their votes counted that white male set hegemonny cannot continue in this land. it is a demographically losing proposition. so the republicans have two options, one, broaden their appeal beyond the kind of, you know, trump maga white supremacist clump of their base, broaden their appeal to the pluralistic diverse nation or find a way to keep the pluralistic diverse nation from voting or counting. states are doing everything they can to suppress the vote of nonwhite citizens. this is their argument. in is republicans saying it in court when challenged about this in court, they tell the judges that the reason they do this is to depress the minority vote and that that should somehow be legal. we already have states trying to suppress the minority vote but then this is the -- that's the wedge, here's the fat end and the fat end even if you do try to vote we'll put in place a system with which we can use to discount that. that is the republican strategy at this point. >> yeah, as you say and as we mentioned in our report it's all out in the open. emily, i understand why real normal, regular people might wish something else was in the news, might want to talk about something he, might be exhausted by these endless battles, these attacks on democracies and on tooth, people are tired of talking of covid too. i thought the reuters report puts it in relief what you're dealing with and exactly one year ago today our "beat" journalistic producers found this. here's what trump said a year ago. >> will you commit to making sure that there is a peaceful transferal of power after the election? >> we're going to have to see what happens. you know that, i've been complaining very strongly about the ballots and the ballots are a disaster and -- >> i understand that but people are rioting. do you commit to making sure there is a peaceful transferal of power. >> get rid of the ballots and we'll have a very peaceful -- there won't be a transfer. there will be a continuation. >> emily. >> right. so to connect this to some of the points that elie was making and reuters report about state -- seconds of state, those are the officials who held the line in november 2020. they made sure that the votes were properly counted. it was a remarkably clean and well-conducted election given all the circumstances, covid, all the mail-in ballots, increase of rates of mail-in ballots in states and, of course, this kind of hovering threat of whether trump would respect the results or not. if those seconds of state had been partisan hacks, the whole outcome might be different. we saw enormous attacks on brad raffensperger who refused trump's entreaties to, quote, go find some votes to overturn the results in georgia. and so that is a key office that has been in office where republicans run against democrats and it is not nonpartisan but has not been subject to the level of partisan elevation as an office like governor or even state attorney general and so that is significant about seeing these seconds of state subscribe to this false set of beliefs about the 2020 election. >> so walk us through what might that have looked like? should someone be concerned in some of these states if it's quite close the secretary of state threw their -- through their powers could do something? >> yes and when you go back to 2000 and the fight between george bush and al gore, at that time katherine harris, the secretary of state in florida played a pretty crucial role in preventing a statewide recount. and that's an important history lesson to remember as we go forward and talk about how vulnerable our system remains to some kind of trickery after an election. this is something that congress could fix. they could make sure -- they have the power to make sure that there are stronger protections for a vote being conducted and those results being properly protected and respected. we don't have a good system in place. we have kind of a shoddy law from the 1870s that we should improve. >> yeah, elie, i think you both laid out quite clearly and this is important because these elections are in the future. raffensperger who you mentioned is running again to defend that legacy, that isn't a state, elie, georgia, that is obviously in some ways despite being -- yet people need to understand the time for choosing is coming up because if you have several battleground states by people on record with trump's big lie that won't be a surprise. they've already warned you about they can do it -- look, if it's a million ballots across they may not be able to make it up even with shenanigans but, boy, american elections following closer than that in a lot of states, elie. >> if we were any other country, the u.n. would send monitors for our elections because they're so pathetically broken, but luckily we're america so we don't like actually pay attention to international law. anyway, look, what i find weird about all of this, right s. that the republicans are not just willing to as dana put it kill the legitimacy of biden presidency in the crib, they're willing to kill their own legitimacy. they are so beyond the pale here that if you -- in a situation with what they've done with voter suppression and what they're doing in terms of pushing their partisan secretaries of states, how am i supposed to trust a close election in a georgia, in a texas, in a florida where the republican -- where they tell me on the initial count that the republican has won and i'm supposed to trust them now? i'm just supposed to take their word for it. how do they think this works and the way they think this works is that there is no middle anymore. there is no center. it is just -- it is just raw political power. whoever has the loudest voices and the biggest jack boots gets to control society. the reason why republicans want it that way is that they perceive and i don't know that they're wrong that they have the louder, more rabid, more violent supporters and that their jack boots will win out in a raw power struggle, right? so they're willing to abandon the thought of electric tort legitimacy and just make it a street fight because they think they'll win that street fight. >> you know, my job in the newsroom is to give people the evidence for people to make up their own mind. i can't tell you what every single republican leader is thinking but i can show the public the evidence that many of them have warmed to the progress they call the progress and the demands of the january 6th gathering though the courts call it in many cases indicted violence and trespassing and felonies, but they've warmed to that and now they're warming to overthrowing election results in these offices, that's the public evidence. always good to start the evening with emily and elie and, emily, it's not leaving you out to note that elie, he's got to be five cups of coffee in. five, six in by 6:00 p.m. eastern s that right, elie? >> i'm all set. i don't stop -- i don't stop until it's time to go to bed. >> it's a thermos kind of day. we had michael pollen on and talked about when you stop drinking coffee altogether. he says you write a lot less which that's an occupational hazard for all of us. shout out to elie's coffees and emily's contributions and we have a lot more in the program. a maga governor ignoring science, fueling this anti-vax movement, anti-mask crowds in his own state. >> hijacking the breath of our children and exerting unconstitutional control over them. >> your power hungry dictatorship has gotten out of control. >> this is america and we're not through the covid wars but we have a special guest with insight tonight and the biden administration going after the 1%. when you look at extremism, what are the luciens? plus, tonight on "the beat" you heard it right here by the end of the hour the one and only 50 cent. tonight, stay with us. y wi uths. 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what's happening at the highest levels of government in consultation with the experts. meanwhile on the ground in many places including state governments you have maga fueled campaigns to basically go against these very tools. florida has a new surgeon general who is basically against using masks and against vaccine mandates and even downplayed the benefits of vacs on a medical basis. there is a new rule for schools where they say kids exposed to covid-19 who are asymptomatic can go back to school and don't need a mask. we saw something we mentioned earlier in the program, parents against masking in florida erupting at this school board meeting when officials moved to defy the governor's mask ban. >> the mask mandate and defiance of the governor's executive order is a way to control our children. >> it seems like you feel like children should be seen and not heard. >> highjacking the breath of our children and exerting unconstitutional control over them. >> it seems like you want masking forever. >> your power hungry dictatorship has gotten out of control? we are sending our kids without masks. this will not continue. >> a the love energy clearly on both sides. the school boards backed down from mandating masks and studies show wearing them reduces the transmission of covid and youth unvaccinated yet, that is certainly a priority. meanwhile the anti-science resistance to masks and vaccines are correlated with ongoing infection rates and higher hospitalizations. the people bearing the brunt of it are the people doing it but also anyone who lives near them. multiple states are adopting what are called crisis standards of care. rachel maddow and others have been blowing the alarm on this. this is not good. this is the last resort methods used to ration care when there's been such overwhelming problems or caseloads in a hospital that there simply aren't enough resources to go around. that's not how it's supposed to be in the united states of america. patients in 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ebony hilton, msnbc medical contribute and professor christina greer from fordham. doctor, your views on what we ran through including some of the problems in florida where the new state surgeon general seems to be taking a fairly political line against safety measures. >> it's absolutely dangerous. you know, particularly when we're talking about children, we literally had a million children diagnosed with covid-19 over the past four weeks and if we're looking at it, it's literally at this .555 children that we know have died from covid-19 by the end of this september. and if we look at july that number was 358 kids. between august and september we lost another 200 children to covid-19. that's three kids dying a day. so this political play, it has consequences and it's not only for the old but it's for the most vulnerable persons that literally don't have a choice and say of whether or not they can get vaccinated. >> professor greer, it's hard to track any national conversation, quote/unquote because there's a lot of different things going on but it seems this year after the first wave of vaccinations when it became clear that many people were holding out, that the anger of the unvaccinated which is not an exclusively political group because plenty of republican seniors have chosen to do it but seems to lean center left. in california it helped to keep the democratic governor in office. in virginia seeing headlines where the former governor is running again and running on vaccines and safety measures center stage spending money on that, they think that this is notwithstanding the humanitarian issues they think it's a political winner. >> absolutely, ari, underline all the conversations. economic. so many want to get vaccinated because they want to get back to work and have some sort of sense of normalcy but as dr. hill pointed out there are so many people who can't get back to work because they have sick children or they're worried about their kids who have to come home and quarantine after being in school -- after being exposed to covid and so this is, you know, ari, back to a conversation sadly we've had for the past several years where our previous president just -- he corroded our understanding of facts and the fact that he would get up in front of the american public day in and day out and lie, point blank lie about facts from dominion to international policy has really seeped into our daily discourse and now that we have a global pandemic on our shores, so many people are still following that rhetoric and sadly so many republican leaders thinking about the florida surgeon general are now following that trumpian logic and it's not just republicans following suit, we also know this isn't hyper partisan and so many refuse to think of vaccinations as a collective action enterprise to move us forward in an health perspective and economically. >> you mentioned the trumpian attack on facts and, doctor, this goes to something important here. there are trade-offs in covid policy. we tried to cover them fairly. much to debate in america but not every fact is debatable. and so that seems to be where people are being led astray and as for the maga governor desantis in florida, we'll put up some of the lowlights of who he's put in office, the surgeon general, i'm curious if you can give us context when this individual says, well, a vaccine about as beneficial of the eating of fruit and vegetables. i don't know what broccoli he's gotten ahold of. but i'm curious of your medical view. >> it's absolutely ridiculous and what we know it has deadly consequences. we know children that are four times more likely to be infected. if you're an adult and living in mississippi or florida, you're literally ten types more likely to die than in you were in a democratic ran state. the consequence is your life. we again are starting to center these persons that are truly in the minority of thought, right, but we are allowing them to be in positions of power where they can literally dictate the lives of millions of persons if we're looking at florida that they now lost 51,000 floridians to covid-19. that's nearly 10% of the state of wyoming. if we want to think about numbers, and how this is allowed to continue and again especially when which as stated we have many americans who are not covid, you know, they're not vaccine hesitant, they're not even vaccine curious but vaccine denied groups of persons, whether that's because of lack of access within their community or in the brains of children, they literally cannot get vaccinated at this point if they're less than 12 years old and they depend on their parents in order to make those decisions and how we are protecting them at all costs is something we'll have to face the consequences of for generations to come because there are more consequences than just death. >> yeah. dr. hilton and professor greer, i want to thank both of you for the perspective and we turn to 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>> yeah, i mean i will tell you, ari, i came back to the united states after a decade abroad. i had been a foreign correspondent and i'm an american and i came back in 2013 and, frankly, i looked at the level of fury as i came to think of it and was just sort of blown away at how far we had fallen away from the things we like to tell ourselves as a country, the idea that we do have social mobility, the idea that we do have this commitment to truth and that we have rule of law that people can be proud of. the truth was on all three of those three big metrics we were ailing and i said i've got to understand this. how did we get here and this is, you know, before donald trump was on the scene and to be perfectly honest i would have written this book if there had never been a donald trump. because he was the expression, kind of the ultimate manifestation of these underlying factors that had been building for decades. >> i don't know if you ever watch "rick and morty" but there is an alternative universe where he didn't exist or never became president, right, if you believe in those kind of multiple realities. but for those of us who can't -- go ahead. >> no, i was just going to say in some ways, you know, he is sort of the cartoon representation of all of these facts that had been bubbling to the surface. the veneration of celebrity, the way in which we had substituted fame for information and, of course, radical income inequality. the man of the golden bathroom who suddenly is standing up as a populist hero. it was -- he was the cartoon reflection of these things and i honestly almost thought in a way he's distracting us from recognizing that he didn't create these problems, but -- that's part of the mission here to say he didn't -- when he left office, we're left with a lot of the underlying issues that produced him at all. >> yeah, that's an important theme in your book and in some of the analysis today, when people talk about, for example, structural racism in the united states, that's a different analytical level than getting angry about an individual person who may also act in a racist manner if you look at how police departments are held accountable that's different than any individual officer. likewise, i want to play something from tucker carlson last night. if it wasn't tucker carlson the impression is others in fox news would tap into this kind of white supremacy because it's there. it's not only overly personalizing it but speaks to the distrust. here's what he said last night. i don't think we -- we didn't have that sop but i'll tell you he basically talks about this so-called great replacement theory, a racist conspiracy theory that there's some grand scheme to bring people of different backgrounds to replace white people. highly discredited and then he goes on to say, quote, the replacement of legacy americans with more obedient people from far away countries, end quote. your reaction to that and where it fits into the larger problems that you seem to be diagnosing in american civic life? >> i mean that is chapter and verse out of white nationalist rhetoric and what is amazing to me, ari, in 2015 when donald trump announce the his candidacy for president by coincidence i happened to be working on a piece about white nationalism. this phenomenon that was bubbling around on facebook, on twitter, it was kind of -- and they found their presidential candidate and at the time, you know, that kind of language, the idea that somebody would be talking about it from the main stage of american politics was abhorrent and the idea he now gets up there on television and talks about it is a sign of how you have a body of americans who have been aculturated. part of the answer is technological. ways in which people get together and give themselves the illusion these ideas are okay and part of the explanation nation is about leadership, a cultural failure to lead the republican party in a way that says, no, we'll banish these ideas from the arena of acceptable thought. that hasn't happened and it is getting worse. it's not getting better, i'm afraid. >> yeah, getting worse and as you say the things you diagnose remove some of those guardrails for the people who might have had the credibility to do it previously are just purged out anyway, whether that be liz cheney or whomever. evan, i want to thank you for telling us about your work. to find the whole book it is "wildland: the making of america's fury." 50 cent is back on "the beat." first joe biden releasing a new study on just how little taxes billionaires pay and what to do about it we have that economic update next. , you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ it's a new dawn... ♪ if you've been taking copd sitting down, it's time to make a stand. start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. take a stand and start a new day with trelegy. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. and save at trelegy.com. the best things america makes are the things america makes out here. the history she writes in her clear blue skies. the legends she births on home town fields. and the future she promises. when we made grand wagoneer, proudly assembled in america, we knew no object would ever rank with the best things in this country. but we believed we could make something worthy of their spirit. my great grandmother started a legacy bof education in my family.ke she ran for state office. had no problems breaking the norms. she had a dream and decided to pursue it. find the strong women in your family with ancestry. is mealtime a struggle? 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it's always good to see you, man. >> i'm going to start with the election season 50, because one of the things i could have never known as a 50 fan and someone who has to talk to you, people come to me now occasionally and say what is 50 doing? these are the headlines. the headlines tell the story. it says 50 cent bashes biden tax plan, endorses trump, and on down the line. we all know what's happened since then. but give it to us straight on the news. were you endorsing donald trump? >> i didn't realize i would be paying 62% of my income back to the irs. so that does change a lot. new york city will change dramatically. like they're going to end up moving to different territories. you look at all of silicon valley is now in austin, texas. so you start to see people moving from these places to new places that make sense for them to own just what they're earning, not to have it just taken from them by the government. >> i got one more question on this. before we get to bmf, which is fast forward to no days, and joe biden is president, and he is talking about raising certain taxes, take a listen. >> pay your fair share. just like middle class folks doo. trickle-down economics has never worked. it's time to grow the economy from the bottom and the middle out. >> that's the argument. that's the substance of why he says it's necessary. what's your response to that today now that he is president? >> no, no, tell an individual to not keep 62% of your earnings because you live in this area? i don't like new york city that much. i don't like the people enough to stay. i'll move, ari. i'm going to texas. i've got my cowboy hat, everything. everything is bigger in texas. it's a really beautiful people, nice people in texas. >> i want to get into "bmf"ed a mentioned. people know you from the music, a lot of other things. you have become a real hit tv producer here, not in the news realm, what we do, but the fictional realm, whether people notice it or not. let's take a look at the new project "bmf". >> don't forget, i need money from that trip. >> we'll talk about it later. >> that's what you said last week. >> don't even trip. i got you. >> we're not taking your money. >> pops, it's for a school field trip. >> what are you trying to do with this project? and is it important to you that just as you did in your music, you're telling stories with a wider amount of diversity than people may be accustomed to hearing. >> it's just to show the diversity is the exciting part of it, ari. it's the consistent thing that cuts across all ethnicity is christianity. a christian family, mother and father, and they struggled with the choices the kids made. >> the story from 50 cent the director and 50 cent the casting director. you have a loft interesting people. first of all, you've put bets down on new actors and faces which is always interesting in art. and then you go back to the classics. snoop and this next guy that everyone knows, i'm going to play a clip of him shouting you out at your hollywood star ceremony. let's take a look. >> everything matched the intensity of his music. he is also relentless in his business. he is an artist, an entrepreneur, an actor, a director, a producer. >> you have been living up to that. tell us about getting eminem in the project. who is he playing? and can you really direct eminem? >> yeah, you know, i got him in the actual project, episode 7 of "bmf" if you get a chance to see him. he is playing white boy rick, a guy from detroit that was aware of rick's story prior to me getting him to talk to him about playing the role. and he came around pretty good. he hadn't done anything since "8 mile." so it's a big deal. everyone is all excited about it. i'm just happy that he did it when i'm directing, you know. it's exciting. >> every time you've come on "the beat," we've talked about different things. we always look back at the younger 50 cent. not only because it's interesting, because it really shows the arc and the growth. let's look at young 50 cent talking about the street, street credibility, et cetera. here we go. >> they like me in the hood. they know what i'm saying. they know what i'm saying, they can pinpoint the incident. so they start to feed into me more, you know. but in office, that was a strike against me. they were going -- they were saying he is a liability. >> to put it in essence, 50, you not like me as the song goes. tell us, though, in all seriousness, when we look at that, how much of that guy is still in you? how much of your success is channeling that same street authenticity, and how much of it is growing and changing as you've had more life experience? >> i understand it, ari, that experience. i was in it at that point, still going through some things. and then later, you can work yourself into a new scenario, a situation where you have a lot of things, you a lot of things going on. so it doesn't make sense. in the early stages at that point with that interview you just showed, i had a gun on me in that interview you just showed. >> really? >> you watch the clip further, i pull the gun out of my pocket. i was in long island in front of money's house. the music at that point, it was -- it's not there. it's not really -- it has so many things going on in the environment, the neighborhood with people that were sporting other artists and other things, it was dangerous situation going on at that point where anything could happen at any time, ari. so better be caught with than be caught without it is the thought process at that point. and when you grow past the situations and you start to look at things a little differently. you know that you're mature. you start to look and you want different goals. you have different perception of things, period. >> when we looked at that clip, we didn't know in the clip that we pulled that you had the gun on you there, but did you not say -- >> it goes further. >> hey, curtis, i was going to say did you not say i got -- i let my gun talk for me, let my whip talk for me. so there you go. >> that just was the thought process at the time, ari. it's a blessing to make it past that and not have, you know, the same perception of things anymore, to be successful is nice. also, a successful mind-set, right? you got to adjust that to be successful. >> 100%. all of that makes sense, and it goes to the growth. it goes to why people are still listening to your stories in whichever medium you're offering them. so people may know i'm a fan. full disclosure. i'm a long-time listener. we love when 50 comes by. curtis 50 jackson. thank you, sir. bmf stars on thursday, september 26th. if you want the know what 50 is up to, we have a lot more on the interview that we didn't have time to fit on tv. we pinned the entire interview on our twitter account. you can search on youtube for medical better and 50 cent and see the whole unedited thing. thanks for watching "the beat." "the reidout" is up next. >> how you doing, ari? i will be sure to check it out. thank you very much. you get all the cool interviews. i need to hang out with your booker so i can be cool. >> any time. any time. >> okay, we'll make it an appointment. we'll make an appointment and then we'll consult on it. we're working on it. thank you, man. >> love it. >> have a good evening. cheers. all right, good evening, everyone. thank you so much for joining us tonight. we begin "the reidout" with an anniversary of sorts. one year ago today we got this warning sign that donald trump would not go quietly if he lost the 2020 election. . >> will you commit to making sure there is a peaceful transfer of power after the election? >> well, we're going to have to see what happens, you know that. iowa been complaining very strongly about the ballots, and the ballots are a disaster. >> i understand that. but people are rioting. do you commit to making sure that there is a peaceful transfer of power? >> we want to get rid of the ballots and we'll have a very peaceful -- there won't be a transfer, frankly. there will be a continuation. >> trump made no secret of his intent, and

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