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and house speaker, sitting behind the president. a lot has happened in 100 days. mapping out a plan to overcome covid, from creating a vaccination plan from scratch to convincing congress to spend more federal funding to those struggling most, and now it's on to infrastructure, which could be a good thing given new polling i mentioned shows nearly 6 in 10 americans think biden's infrastructure plan is a good idea. our new polling shows nearly 70% of the country approves of how he's handled the pandemic. not the same story on other issues. when it comes to immigration and guns, 1 in 3 americans approve of biden's handling so far. will polling change how biden governs? here's vice president kamala harris earlier today. >> he is someone who i have seen over and over again make decisions based on what he truly believes, based on his years of doing this work and studying these issues, what he truly believes is the right thing to do. >> joining me now, nbc political correspondent ali vitali. i want to start with president biden's address to congress set for wednesday. i have many dates on my calendar we guessed the speech was on, so good we finally have a date. how is he going to sell his agenda? >> this one moves around a little bit, so my calendar has as many cross-outs as yours does. we know it's coming this week, on wednesday. we're probably going to hear a lot of looking back at the accomplishments over the last 100 days and a road map forward. i use the word road map quite literally because the infrastructure push that the biden administration has been embarking on over the last few weeks is going to be one of the paramount points that we hear on wednesday night. we know that the administration is pushing a more than $2 trillion plan that focuses on traditional infrastructure, things like roads, bridges, and tunnels, but also has in it things like elder care, so -- and increasing broadband across the country, so a little bit of the nontraditional in there as well. but we also know that the administration is rolling out a family focused plan. this plan is roughly $1.5 trillion. part of that build back better initiative. it includes things that are not necessarily what you think of when you think of infrastructure. things like universal pre-k, child care, paid family leave. a lot of things that progressive advocates were hoping this administration would champion after they got into office and had control of both houses of congress. now, the political reality of this is tough because up here on the hill, you do have republicans who say that all of those trillions that the biden administration wants to put towards this effort, that's way more than they're willing to spend. they would like to keep it more narrow, more focused on the traditional. make no mistake about it, biden's address does ratchet up the press, yes, because of the polling you mentioned here, but also because of the bull horn he's going to have in talking to americans and laying out why these are priorities that must be passed. >> i want to circle back to the president's address to congress. there is going to be this historic visual, having nancy pelosi and kamala harris sitting behind him, the first time we'll see that. they're both going to be in masks following the protocols of the chamber. talk to me about the significance of what we're going to see on wednesday night. >> look, optics matter. on the covid front, the fact they'll be wearing masks does track with this administration wanting to model best practices for the pandemic. that's definitely something we did not see from the trump administration. certainly something the biden administration has placed a premium on. even as they're championing their efforts on the pandemic, they'll still be showing what good behavior looks like as we try to chart a path out of it. then on the fact this is thefirst time we're going see two women sitting behind the sitting president of the united states, historic elections have historic consequences. nancy pelosi is the first female speaker of the united states. kamala harris, the first female vice president. optics really matter. you and i have talked about this. you know i'm working on a book about women and the presidency or rather the lack of women and the presidency. but optics and representation really matter in pushing americans to see women in leadership roles. and that's definitely going to be one of the subcontexts to wednesday night when we see joe biden front and center talking about the path forward, but at this time of multiple crises in the country, having two women behind him really does show americans that women should be in these powerful spaces and in this administration and this congress, they are. >> ali vitali, i may be the one person more exciteing for your pub date than you are. how is president biden's first 100 days landing with progressives? joining me, the spokesperson for justice democrats. hey, walid. biden pushed through a $1.9 trillion covid package, zero republican support. he's eyeing bold change in the form of infrastructure. what in the plan do you see as a win, and where do you want to see it go even further? >> well, right now, we're at a stage where progressives have won an argument in the democratic party over the role of government and a large argument over how to solve america's biggest problems, but not necessarily the specific solutions. getting major climate provisions into the infrastructure bill is a huge significant achievement for the progressive movement that had an entirely separate climate bill in the obama administration that failed. so on the one hand, there is huge successes of the progressive movement on getting the climate provisions in there. but we still want to see joe biden go bigger on the civilian conservation corps that senator markee and alexandria ocasio-cortez proposed that would create 1.5 million good paying jobs that would address our climate resiliency efforts and move us toward 100% green energy over the course of the next ten years. joe biden's current proposal for that is -- doesn't even solve the current backlog of maintenance necessary in national parks, but it's good that these issues are being included in the bill, but now we're getting into where the devil is in the details. >> we have seen high marks for the president, you look at the polling i was talking about earlier when it comes to things like handling of the pandemic. when you look at issues like gun safety or immigration, there's less support. and what i would say looking at that is to me, in some ways, that shows the limits of polling. that in that group of people who are dissatisfied, is people who sort of see those issues incredibly differently. so if you are this administration, and you are reading that polling, what should be your takeaway? >> i think the takeaway is that the republicans are going 100 miles per hour on guns and immigration and democrats are going a steady 15 miles per hour on those issues. and so if you want polling to increase on gun violence and on immigration, two issues that joe biden has pledged to solve in his first term, that do need to be solved. millions of people are waiting for immigration relief. have been waiting for decades, and the gun violence, as we saw in the past few weeks, is not going away. democrats, once those bills become a priority, they need to turn up the heat and make the case to the american people so the only thing americans aren't hearing is not simply fox news' talking points about guns and immigration but also the democratic talking point on those issues. >> i look at those numbers and see people are not happy with the status quo. we're going to be hearing from jamaal bowman on wednesday night. your sense of what we're going to hear from him? >> congressman jamaal bowman is a justice democrat, someone we recruited. i think he's going to give a strong case for the administration to center racial and economic justice in the next 100 days, after the hearing that happened in minneapolis, we're still waiting for racial justice, criminal justice, police reform agenda to be enacted in the country and still waiting for major efforts to be done on the issue of economic inequality, and those are the two issues that got jamaal bowman elected in his district. >> thanks for your time tonight. >> president biden and vice president kamala harris have promoted their agenda mostly from washington because of the pandemic. despite being unable to sell their plans in person as they normally would, our new poll shows biden's approval rating is higher than donald trump's at the same point in office. and while he beats trump, polling shows biden behind where president obama was in his first 100 days. an arbitrary timeframe that has judged presidential performance since the days of fdr. with that, we welcome alexis koe, the author of you never forget your first, a biography of george washington. alexis, thesis approval ratings are strong. what would history tell us about those numbers? >> well, first of all, as you said, it's arbitrary, usually, but i think actually this is the rare instance in which it's useful because fdr was facing a crisis. when we say 100 days, we're not saying what are you going to accomplish or what have you accomplished? we're asking how are you radically changing a country that is in crisis? and what we see is, you know, biden promised 100 million doses. we have 200 million doses. we have lots of really promising things going on. but when fda entered office, he didn't have a slim margin, a slim majority the way biden does. he had a large one, which meant that the day he was inaugurated, his 15 cabinet members were approved. and when he went to work, they were being, you know, sworn in two floors above. so i think we really have to remember that he faces a totally different challenge. but at the same time, most americans do approve of his handling of the covid-19 crisis, but will they approve during the midterms? and far more interested in that, and that depends on biden selling his message, which obama did not when it came to economic recovery, and biden's aware of that, but will he connect to the public the way fdr did on the radio or lbj did on television, or the way trump did on twitter? we have yet to see that happen. >> it's so easy, and i understand our desire to compare it to, you know, the presidents who came before him as a way of offering context, and yet it's not apples to apples because you're talking about different four-year spans in history or eight-year spans in history. and so the moment really matters. so when you look at the comparison to trump, when you look at the comparison to obama, how fair of a comparison is that really? >> it's not. it's not fair at all. particularly, you know, when none of these are totally fair. every situation is different. but i think this poll in particular that you're focusing on also is really provocative and it tells us a lot, but i was most interested in a poll out of harvard in which it seems that the youth are very happy with president biden. far happier than they were at this time with barack obama, who we considered to be quite popular with young people. and i think that's because, and this is surprising, but it reminds me of the energy that we saw from another catholic president, our only catholic president besides biden, john f. kennedy, on his -- in his inauguration speech, he said, you know, this isn't about 100 days. we're not going to be finished in 100 days, but we've got to begin. that's what young people seem to be responding to with biden. he's talking about climate change. he's responding quickly to issues of racial equality and clearly. and those voters we may see turn out in the midterms, and certainly, those voters will be remembering biden and talking about his legacy in 15, 20 years. and that's what matters. it's not, you know, it's not the first 100 days. it's not even the midterm. it's quite often after they leave office. >> alexis, thank you so much. >> new protests demanding justice in the shooting of jacob blake, in cinosia, wisconsin, fueled by the newathize shot who paralyzed him returned to deuta. >> and what it will take to enact police reform. >> plus, you'll find out why tomorrow will set off a huge political scramble for congressional seats across america. and in our next hour, how to get through the final stretch of this pandemic. dr. anthony fauci and congressman raul ruiz answer your questions for our special latinos and the covid fight. do not miss it. the bowls are back. applebee's irresist-a-bowls all just $8.99. is mealtime a struggle? 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>> i don't think anyone is surprised that the officer is back at work. that investigation cleared him of any wrongdoing. the chief said he did not break the law. that happened in january. while the family is not surprised, they are still devastated. this is a wounded city after what happened. we had a chance to talk to jacob blake's father a short time ago. take a listen. >> can i ask you what it was like when you found out the officer was going to be returned to duty? >> it was as bad as the day my son was shot. because it's another slap in the face. we weren't told. you know, the man is still facing charges in different courts going back to work in the street when he attempted to murder my son. i don't get it. i don't get it. >> what does a march like today mean to you? >> it means that we're not giving up. we'll never give up. we can't stop. justice will be found. i have been sick for a couple months, and that's why you didn't see me in minnesota standing with my brother thelonious. i wasn't able to go to breonna's anniversary in louisville, but they're constantly on the phone with me, and we support each other. that's what's important, the cohesiveness and the togetherness of the families. >> you know, fresh on the derek chauvin verdict, it's interesting to be in a community that feels like there's been a lack of accountable here. the marchers say they'll try to keep this on the radar, certainly of the national news media. when you talk to people here, one thing i did not expect was a real fear amongst people who live here that they could bump into officer chefsky is he is now back on the street. >> cal perry, thank you so much for that report. >> that same call for police reform growing in columbus, ohio. protesters gathering to remember 16-year-old mukaia bryant, who was shot by a columbus police officer on tuesday. >> say her name, ma'khia bryant. >> ma'khia bryant died just hours after derek chauvin was convicted in minneapolis. president biden declaring that guilty verdict a giant step forward in the path to racial justice. nearly half of americans approve of biden's handling of race relations. crucial support as biden continues to push for police accountability in the form of the george floyd justice in policing act. with me now, msnbc contributor britney packinate cunningham, also with me, clint smith, author of "how the word is passed" out june 1st. i can't wait for this book. so many different police killings inspired the george floyd act. here's felonious floyd describing it. >> you have so many people who have their blood on that bill. you have breonna taylor, the no-knock warrant. she was killed, innocent, in her house sleeping. you have eric garner and my brother george, both of them, no choke hold clause, that needs to be in effect. >> britney, i hadn't quite had it put that way. so many people have their blood on that bill. if there is not momentum for this now, will there ever be? >> you know, i'm scared to find out just how many people would have to lose their lives, not only for momentum for this bill to be passed, but for us to take a wholesale look and transform completely the entire system of public safety. the fact that we have to lose lives in order to be having this conversation is quite frightening, and what's even more frightening, alicia, is some people actually want to back off this work because of the guilty verdict in the chauvin case. the idea that one guilty verdict, one conviction, in one case in one killing should be enough is quite frightening to a lot of us. we have to make sure that we never, ever let the system off the hook, whether it's in columbus, whether it's in minnesota, whether it's in atlanta, georgia, whether it's in my hometown of st. louis, missouri. all of american policing has to be put on trial because until we get past the place of accountability and fully to the place of prevention, we still have work to do. >> clint, it's scary, as brittany said. it's also completely misreading the systems that undergird this. republican senator tim scott told nbc news there are four sticking points in the george floyd act for him. ending qualified immunity, restricting no knock warrants and the use of former defense department weapons and banning the choke hold. without those elements, can you really call it reform? >> i don't think so. and i think that part of what we have to understand is that this act is important. and it is important as a means of harm mitigation, as a means of preventing further violence from being enacted against people in this moment. but it is not in and of itself the answer. outside of the criminal legal system, it's hard to think of any other places in american life where we would allow this many people to die at the hands of a system every single day, especially when that system disproportionately kills certain groups of people, and then allow it to continue doing the same thing without a sort of deep interrogation of whether or not that system was serving its ostensible purpose in the first place. an important thing about this is we can't have a conversation about policing without having a larger conversation about the ecosystem of political and social and historical realities that policing is a part of. we can't talk about policing without talking about housing. we can't talk about policing without talking about poverty. we can't talk about poverty without the long history of public policy that created the poverty in those communities while facilitating upward mobility for others. it has to be a holistic analysis, and i hope this act is passed in the senate and that we have further conversations about what is necessary to create the conditions in certain communities that make it so police aren't such a profound presence in these communities in the first place. >> brittany, to clint's point about how all these policies tie together, this wednesday, president biden will make his first address to congress. what do you want to hear? >> i want to hear he's not going to take his foot off the gas. i want to hear the folks who are pressuring him to take the meat out of the george floyd justice in policing act are not going to win this fight. to clint's essential point, this is barely a beginning. and the idea that tim scott and his colleagues in the gop want to remove the very things that families and communities have been fighting for, for years, is deeply disturbing. i want to hear he's going to remain committed, not just for this piece of legislation, but for the long haul. this is deeply interconnected with multiple systems. until all of those systems are fully invested in such that they create safety from the ground up, we're still going to have this persistent problem. we have seen certain regions and certain police departments take minimal action. they have taken changes in their use of force policy. we have seen them add body cams. we have seen them do a lot of reforms that we have been talking about for years. and yet the violence that is being faced, especially in black, brown, and indigenous communities, has not decreased. so we have to actually not just examine what's happening across the system but hold the system fully to account. joe biden needs to remember that the folks who elected him are expecting this. that this is what we demand, and we'll continue to demand it until it's done. >> clint, i don't know if you could see the footage that cal brought us speaking with jacob blake's father. he was wearing a mask that had his son's name on one side. the other side said son, father, human being, on his shirt, had a thing saying i am a human being. constantly having to remind people of his son's humanity. i think of that beautiful essay you wrote, clint, about george floyd's daughter and seeing your own daughter in her face and those plastic sunglasses that all of our little kids run around the house with, and this idea of coming back to common humanity, and so i have the same questions for you, which is how should biden talk about this? and is there an opportunity to connect all these dots? to say that we're not just talking about police reform. we're talking about myriad systems that need to be addressed, and we also fundamentally need to affirm the value of life here? >> absolutely. i think, you know, part of what i want today do in that essay is center george as a person, center george as a human. i think in the midst of what's happened over the course of the last year, on sort of both ends of the idealogical spectrum, george is either made into a criminal caricature of himself or has been made into a symbol that is in some ways sort of devoid of humanity. obviously in a different way than on the other side, but in a similar way. i think sometimes people can become symbols at the expense of being people. and so for me, that photograph of george and his daughter was so moving to me because it reminded me, as you said, of my daughter. it reminded me of all the little black girls who have the baubles in their head and the big sunglasses, and i think that we -- it's a reminder, too, as we have these conversations about people who are killed or shot at the hands of police, that sometimes we have a history of looking for these perfect victims. but none of us are perfect. all of us are carrying baggage. all of us are carrying things that we are not proud of, and that we are attempting to work through. but all of us are members of families, members of communities, and people who were loved and who loved before we were anything else. >> clint, brittany, thank you both so much. >> tomorrow, we expect to get new census data and those numbers could have huge political consequences, setting the stage for a fight between democrats and the gop over congressional districts. >> and later, an attack caught on camera in new york city. police are investigating if it is yet another racist attack against the asian community. you'll hear from the victim's family. the strength of a community. the bonds we build... should never be broken. ♪♪ because it's that strength that finds the courage to make something good, truly great. ♪♪ during photosynthesis, plants convert solar energy into chemical energy, cleaning the oxygen we breathe. truly great. plants clean the air. when applied to stained textiles, plant-based surfactants like the ones in seventh generation detergent trap stains at the molecular level and flush them away. plant-based detergents clean your clothes. it's just science! just... science. seventh generation. powered by plants. tackles stains. ♪♪ if you have moderate to severe psoriasis... or psoriatic arthritis, little things, can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream... ...it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable... ...with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, ...otezla is proven.... to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an... increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts.... ...or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. 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>> yes, it certainly will in the minds of democrats. and part of the issue, part of what they're trying to do in hr-1, this massive voting rights bill, is to create independent redistricting commissions in states basically to take the task of drawing these lines out of the hands of partisan actors. republicans have a substantial advantage here in redistricting. there are several states that are poised to add seats, like texas and florida and georgia, where republicans will have the final authority over redistricting. there are as many as ten seats according to some experts that could flip in the house just by drawing new district lines. even if the landscape does not change a single point from 2020, and the margin in the house when all of the vacacies is likely to be filled, is five seats in favor of the democrats. redistricting alone could flip the house. >> kimberly, the senate is now working on their own version of hr-1. it would require independent commissions to redraw districts in all states. senate majority leader chuck schumer is a guest on the mehdi hasan show tonight. here's what he said about the timetable. take a listen. >> the for the people act needs to be passed right now, and if even one elderly member of your caucus, god forbid, were to pass awy or be incapacitated, the democratic majority could go tomorrow. time is not on your side. >> i agree, we have to move quickly. i would say the deadline for s-1 is a little longer than you say. but it's probably by august or so. we're consulting the experts, which is the latest that s-1 can undo some of the despicable and frankly racist changes that these republican legislatures have made or are trying to make in the way people vote. >> so kimberly, part of what mehdi is getting at, getting around the filibuster is needed for any sweeping election legislation. how do they meet that without filibuster reform? >> it's difficult to see, really impossible for that to happen. i mean, i think mehdi was gently saying there are older people on the democratic side of the senate, and so there is an urgency here. but that august date is important for a lot of reasons. we're talking about tomorrow, we're going to start to get data from which these, the apportionment in terms of which states win and lose seats will be based. beyond that, individual states have to actually draw these district lines. and there's not enough census data, that census data will not be available until august because of a number of reasons, including the former administration's push to try to add immigration question, exclude immigrants from the count. and so it's up until then that these districts lines can even begin to be drawn. keep in mind, by the fall, ballots are going to have to be printed for the 2020 primaries. so there's a very tight crunch. and so that is one reason why it is really imperative to get this law passed, but even after that, you have states that are really struggling to try to draw these lines. they're asking for more time. there's going to be a lot of legal challenges that come from this, really drawing the district lines is going to be a mess. and it's in part because of the problems with the census, both from the pandemic and also the trump administration's efforts to try to mess with the census for political reasons. so there's so many factors in play, it's really like a mixing bowl of problems. and trying to draw these lines in time. >> and which there is no delicious cake delivered at the end. kim, some members of the congressional black caucus want to skrift strategies. in response, the republican led efforts in the states to restrict voting. they want to prioritize the voting rights act, which would get the doj involved before many of these laws become active. do you think that legislation has a better shot when it comes to bipartisan support? >> it's tough to say. i think it's very difficult with some of these voting rules to get even all the democrats onboard, let alone try to move in a bipartisan way. republicans see the writing on the wall. they see that expanding the vote, bringing back some of these pre-clearance rules that was part of the voting rights act, which would prevent, give the doj greater power to review them before they go into effect, would in effect make it easier for more people to vote. we know that the republican electorate is shrinking, and that's why republicans are trying to keep democrats from voting. i don't think we will see any movement in a bipartisan way to do that, but it just shows how broken the system is, where there is really a fight. it's showing the effect from that supreme court decision that gutted a part of the voting rights act, that allowed states, many of the states we're talking about, to -- that prevented them from imposing restrictive voting laws, but republicans are moving very quickly to get them in place as quickly as possible. >> sahil, i have about 30 seconds, but i want to give you the final word. >> well, look, right now, democrats don't have 50 votes in the senate to get this massive piece of voting legislation through. that's what they need to do first. if they get 50 votes, you pointed this out, it's a dead stop without changes to the filibuster. another thing this would do, i'll point out briefly, is enact voting rights that are uniform across the board. so texas is considering changes to restrict early voting and vote by mail. this would guarantee two weeks of early voting and basically universal access to vote by mail. there's a lot at stake in terms of whether states will be free to curtail options to vote or whether there will be a uniform standard. >> thank you both so much. you can catch more of mehdi's interview with senator schumer at 8:00 p.m. eastern only on msnbc. as we speak, new york city police are searching for a brutal attacker surveillance cameras may help lead to justice. you'll hear from the victim's family next. >> later, a preview of tomorrow's meeting between our vice president and the president of guatemala, as the biden administration works to help ease the humanitarian crisis at our border and across central america. and mine's unlisted. try boost® high protein with 20 grams of protein for muscle health. versus 16 grams in ensure high protein. boost® high protein also has key nutrients for immune support. boost® high protein. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ it's a new dawn... ♪ if you've been taking copd sitting down, it's time to make a stand. start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. take a stand and start a new day with trelegy. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. and save at trelegy.com. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. in a recent clinical study, patients using salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity, using less or a lot less oral pain medicines. and improved quality of life. that's why we recommend salonpas. it's good medicine. not everybody wants the same thing. that's why i go with liberty mutual — they customize my car insurance so i only pay for what i need. 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