wanted to make the capitol wild for trump. and why is ted cruz being held accountable for his mexican vacation but not his support for overthrowing the election? plus with the justice department investigating, just how much trouble is new york governor andrew cuomo really in? and why great new vaccine news and rapidly shrinking cases are giving some hope this pandemic could be over sooner than we thought when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. the situation in texas is still dire tonight as residents suffer yet another night of below freezing temperatures. that is five days after a massive winter storm kicked off a dangerous cold snap, resulting in power, heat, and now crucially water outages. the good news tonight is that a sustained thaw is expected to begin tomorrow and power outages affecting more than 4 million texans earlier this week are now below 150,000. that's thanks to the hard work of thousands of utility workers, power line technicians and others who have gotten most of the texas grid back up and running in very difficult circumstances. but the food and water crises remain extremely serious. hundreds of cars lining up at a food distribution site in fort worth today and nearly half the state under a boil water notice after the deep freeze shut down water pumps and broke thousands of pipes, all of it causing a cascade of misery for residents and homeowners and even hospitals and firefighters. >> busted pipes and frozen lines snowballing into an all-out nightmare. damaging countless homes and putting many hospitals on high alert. in austin, nurses evacuated patients after losing water pressure, then heat. >> these long lines this morning for the very latest opportunity to help those without water. >> fort worth has set up several bottled water distribution sites throughout the city. >> never should a resident be thirsty or be cold, and those are calls that we are taking in our office. i am thirsty, i am cold. >> overnight, fire and ice in san antonio. frozen hydrants forcing firefighters to truck in water, slowing down crews as they battle flames devouring a downtown apartment complex. >> i haven't been able to go to work all week long, and now everything we have in there is gone. >> our problem is we get a little bit ahead and then the water runs out. >> with water lines frozen or busted, many are growing desperate. others lining up in sub freezing temperatures, hoping for a chance at much needed supplies. >> i'm trying so hard not to cry. >> reporter: for glory ramos, the food and water vital to help take care of her three kids. >> i'm very stressed too with everything going on. it's hard, but i'm trying. >> local leaders have been doing what they can to help residents through what is hopefully the end of the worst of this. houston mayor sylvester turner organized a mass water distribution event in his city today, and harris county judge lina hidalgo today enlisted a local union plumber to teach residents how to prevent their pipes from freezing in the current conditions. >> the old notion of letting that pipe drip and drip ask drip is not a good notion right now. it's just too long with the freeze. i'm going to show you a couple things to do and you'll be able to shut off all the water going to your home. try to track down your main shutoff valve. it will usually be in a black valve box located on the outskirts of your yard. here's mine. you can use a good old crescent wrench. so we're going to grab a hold of that right there, and we're just going to turn it. it's as simple as that. now your water's off. all water going to your home is now shut off. >> now, throughout this week, we have heard ceaseless, brazen lies from some republican politicians, right-wing media and fox news about what caused all this chaos in texas. nonsensical lies that the green new deal somehow snuck into texas under cover of night and then caused it to break during a cold snap. but the single most accurate and succinct characterization of what went wrong in texas this week is this. it was a weather event extreme enough to lie outside the bounds of what the state had chosen to adequately prepare for. former texas governor and former energy secretary rick perry actually copped to that reality today on fox business. >> yes, this was a black swan event, if you will. it was a one of a kind, maybe the only type of event in 100 years. but we should have been recognizing that we hadn't weatherized properly our energy generation companies out there. >> of course here's the rub. 100-year events are not 100-year events in the era of climate change. the extreme becomes more regular. disaster and crisis stalk us. i mean i remember being told that all the home prices in all the markets in the entire country going down at the same time was statistically almost impossible, a black swan event. and then it happened and we had the worst financial crisis since the great depression. a respiratory illness managing to cross a species barrier and then spreading around the entire world causing millions of deaths, that's also a black swan event that we're living through right now. but these are the things government is there for, to prepare for and plan for and protect against. good governance ensures us against the worst risks and the worst catastrophes and designs resilience systems to allow us all to thrive through them. in an era of climate disruption, this will only be more common, and the costs of the failures of our government like those in texas and with the coronavirus will only get higher. craig few gate is a former administrator of fema under president obama, where he oversaw the response to many weather disaster events, including hurricane sandy. craig, first let me get your sort of view from your perspective and expertise on what we have seen happen in texas. what have you seen there? what have you been surprised by? what have you learned? >> not really surprised. we've seen this across the south. this happened in florida in the '90s. during winter, extreme cold temperatures, our systems aren't built for it. we see the failures that occur. when you have this kind of cold, again, up north their water systems are winterized. ours in the south are not. so it's unfortunate this happened, but it is what could happen when you saw the extreme cold that was forecast. >> how do you think about the ways in which we integrate preparation for disaster into the way we think about governing in an era in which we know this will be more common? we just know from the models that extreme weather will be more common. it will have to change the way that we all collectively prepare for it and then adapt and deal. >> yeah. we've got to stop looking backwards. the whole idea of a 100-year event is it's something that's a 1% risk-based on weather patterns in the past. >> right. >> going forward, the extremes are, as you point out, occurring so frequently. and i think the other problem for government is there's a natural tendency to plan for what we're capable of handling and then just hope if it's worse, our systems scale up. i haven't seen that work ever, and we're not planning for what could happen. we're planning often for what we're capable of responding to. >> that is a great way of saying it. it's like, you know, looking for your keys underneath the light when you're outside, right, in the dark because that's where you have light. that's not where the keys are. like your point is there has to be some imagination here about what the frontiers that are possible are. again, we're all living through the most crisis-embedded year in american life in generations. >> true. and there's a lot of information that -- i know people like to say, well, this couldn't have been forecast, or this wasn't expected, or this is a black swan. but there's too much information saying this is happening. this trend is increasing. even the climate reports from the past administration pointed out that more extreme rainfall, more extreme temperatures were already being documented. i like to tell people, you know, this debate about climate change, it's not about climate change in the future. it's climate change that's already changed in our systems and infrastructures, and our response is not built for what's happening, and we're having to change on the fly and learn and not go back to what we've always done, but more importantly figure out what we're going to do differently as these types of weather-driven hazards are increasing. >> you know, there's also -- it's hard too, i think, in the politics of this. you've got one major party that's sort of committed itself to this very dead-end view, you know, blaming the green new deal. so you've got sort of a big chunk of the political spectrum that has literally been denying what's happening. ted cruz was telling me that satellite data showed that global warming -- you know, climate change wasn't happening like two years ago when i interviewed him onstage in texas. but you've also got a political problem, which is that insuring against big risks, something like we're going to spend a bunch of money to weatherize these systems or make them resilient, that could be a tough sell. that's not an immediate, tangible thing. but then when the disaster strikes, you're sure glad you do it. >> right. i mean this is the paradox. it seems that as a nation, we're prepared to spend billions of your taxpayer dollars after a disaster for things that we could have reduced the impacts and built more resiliency on the front end. i think the way we get both parties to agree to this is let's talk about the dollars this is costing us and that we shouldn't be building things to get damaged and have to be repaired again with taxpayers' monies. let's fix it right the first time. we'll clean up after these disasters. but we should be building for future risks so that taxpayers' dollars are not being wasted repeating the same mistakes over and over again. >> and it's so true when you see that. you see the -- and it makes sense, right, the politics around disaster relief tend to be quite bipartisan with some rare exceptions like i remember there was a texas senator who opposed the sandy supplemental named ted cruz. but that was a rare exception. most folks come together and they say, these people need help, fellow americans. but if you try to do this stuff out front, if you say, this year in this budget, we want to bump up how much we're spending on pandemic prevention, or we want to bump up what we're going to be doing on flooding, then it's -- that's a much tougher sell. >> not now. i think we have an opportunity to get our economy going to make some big investments in our infrastructure, putting people back to work, grow americans' economy, and build infrastructure for the future. this is the opportunity we need to come out of this pandemic and put people to work that haven't had jobs, get our economy going, and it's going to take some taxpayer dollars. but let's spend money now and build our infrastructure for what we're facing and put people to work and start buying down the risk from these disasters and make our communities more resilient so when we do have these extreme events, it's manageable and not as devastating and as deadly as these are for our public. >> that's really well said. craig fugate, thanks for sharing your real considerable expertise with us. i really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. some breaking news tonight. really pretty crazy stuff. there are major new conspiracy charges in the january 6th assault, and they have to do with some people that became famous in a viral video. nine right-wing militia members charged, who say they attacked the capitol in the name of donald trump. we're going to have all the details about that after this. big ink tanks. lots of ink. no more cartridges. incredible amount of ink. the epson 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congress' certification of the electoral college vote. according to charging documents, the members agreed to not carry guns because they had a, quote, heavy quick reaction force ten minutes out, though. the same oath keeper also sent a message saying, quote, trump said it's going to be wild. it's going to be wild. he wants us to make it wild. that's what he's saying. he called us all to the capitol and wants us to make it wild. sir, yes, sir. gentlemen, we are heading to d.c. pack your -- expletive. ryan reilly has been like an insurrectionist encyclopedia, reporting on the hundreds of charges that have resulted from the attack on the capitol. he's here now to explain these new charges. ryan, what's the overview here of these individuals? >> yeah. i mean so they're from all over the country. we have someone in florida, someone in north carolina, a group in ohio, and they're all coming together and sort of coordinating through the oath keepers, which of course is this sort of right-wing group that's been around for over a decade now, and talking about -- and basically listening to trump's calls and hearing that message and him saying it's going to be wild, listening to that, interpreting it, and acting on those efforts. i think one really interesting thing is when they talk about this idea of them having this quick reaction force, there's also a lot of discussion about not bringing guns because they were worried about d.c. gun laws. and it's pretty hard to not reach the conclusion that, you know, fear of d.c.'s gun laws saved some lives that day because that's the reason why a lot of these people didn't bring guns into d.c., because they were worried that police were going to pick them up before they got anywhere. but because we saw a lot of people come in with tasers and things like that, that were legal, you know, there was nothing really police did or i guess suppose could have done to stop them because of what they were carrying was street legal at the time. >> that is a fascinating observation. also i mean that b roll we were just playing, which is this sort of notorious moment captured on film. the stack it was called. you see these folks. they've got vests. they've got helmets. they've got their hands on each other's backpacks as they sort of make their way up very methodically and slowly. you know, it strikes me that these folks are in a different tier than some of the more, oh, look where i found myself with my iphone folks. these were people that plotted quite seriously, coordinated, had some experience, and came kind of very ready for what they were going to do. >> completely. it was a pre-planned conspiracy as opposed to a spontaneous conspiracy that just sort of formed on that day. i mean it's pretty tough to argue that when you see all these communications about the event beforehand and then when you see that formation going up the stairs, i mean that's a specific conspiracy that they've entered into. we are agreeing to do this together, right? you're literally signifying that with your body language and what you're doing. so i mean that's the conspiracy right there. they've entered into this agreement and they tried to stop the electoral college votes from being certified. >> and that is what the charging is, right? i mean you've got federal charges on the nine of them as a group in this case. >> yes. yes. so they're all together. conspiracy charges make it easier to bring, you know, culpability to people who might not be able to be charged on their own. you know, they can be controversial sometimes. we saw in the ga 20 case back during trump's first inauguration where there were these conspiracy charges brought based on very little conduct. you'd be curious to see what prosecutors have learned from that experience in bringing it to these new charges where they have very specific actions that these individuals took to enter into this conspiracy to overthrow democracy. >> it seems to me that federal officials, law enforcement are kind of climbing the ladder of seriousness. last question for you. do we have any updates on the pipe bomber? we have someone on tape leaving what were functioning, active pipe bombs outside the rnc and dnc. a month later we have not found this person. >> we don't. i mean i just would stress that this is a completely overwhelming event. frankly it's just completely dominating the fbi. there's so many cases, it's impossible for journalists to keep up with. it's impossible for a lot of these outside groups to keep up with. there were just so many people committing crimes that day and because no one was gathered up and arrested on the spot, it requires all this work to go through and figure out, okay, who are the most serious charges? so right now you're going to see that mix of very serious charges and people they're going after like we see with the oath keepers and just the easy cases of people that were really dumb and posted about it immediately after on social media. so it's a real mix what we're seeing. >> ryan reilly, i'm sure we'll be talking again as you continue to track this. thank you so much. more than 260 people have now been charged in the insurrection on capitol hill. ted cruz, who actively promoted the lie that incited the insurrection and crucially announced ahead of time and then voted not to certify joe biden's win after that attack, has faced basically no consequences for his actions there. certainly nothing like the firestorm he's facing over his extremely ill conceived mexican getaway. cruz got back from cancun and immediately started doing the thing that, as we argued last night, he views as his job, which is media appearances, talking to the press, going on sean hannity for a hannityizing softball interview to clean up his mess. although no amount of media appearances are going to wipe away his mid-crisis vacation, he's also encountering these bill boards in houston reading "texans froze, ted fled." it illustrates so much about the republican party right now, like the fact no one has the same level of shamelessness as donald trump. think about this. if that were donald trump, he obviously would have just stayed on vacation, right? as trump's sycophant matt gaetz tweeted, ted cruz should not have apologized, which is partly why it will be very hard for cruz or anyone else to beat trump in a presidential primary. but this is only the second worst thing cruz has done this year. the much worse thing he did was to give -- by overturning the will of the american people as represented in their votes. it is also an indicator that the non-trump forces of the republican party, the td cruzes of the world are just not that appealing to people. they don't offer that much, which is a big part of the reason we are where we are. two people who really understand this dynamic are olivia troye, who's from texas, now heads up the republican accountability project at the organization defending democracy. and linda chavez, former high ranking official in president ronald reagan's white house. olivia, i want to start with you because when you came out this summer as someone who had been working on the covid task force and released this very, i found, affecting video about the president, it was very sort of specifically about the individual character of donald trump. basically it was, look, there are people trying to save the americans from the pandemic, and this sociopath is unfit for office, and you need to vote him out. it is interesting to me to see you now sort of broadening maybe that critique or your lens. like do you feel there's a bigger problem here than just donald trump as you look at ted cruz? >> absolutely. i mean what you're seeing here is birds of a feather flock together, right? this is the trump republican party. these are some of trump's main supporters showing their true colors. donald trump never cared about anyone else, and ted cruz -- i'm actually kind of glad this happened because he has shown his true colors to the entire state of texas, to his constituents, to these republican voters as well that he has taken for granted for so long. i mean, granted, you know, the tide is changing in texas, but i don't see how any republican sitting at home who had families who were at risk, who were freezing, who are suffering, these people are going to have major damages to their households. this is going to be quite the recovery effort. how do you give him a pass on this, right? how do you give him the dereliction of duty runs deep here. it runs from trump to this guy. i mean there's a pattern of behavior here, and this is also the same guy who you went along with the lie about trying to overturn an election. and so how many times are texas republicans going to give this man a pass? he's shown you who he is. my mom raised me. she said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. this is it. he has shown you. he left you to freeze in the cold. he left his dog at home, snowflake. i'm a dog lover. i can't tell you how irate i was at the fact that my family in texas has been suffering. they've consolidated households in the middle of a pandemic. some of them have covid. they were suffering. they didn't have the option to go to the ritz carlton on a vacation and gather their friends up. that didn't even cross their minds. they were trying to help their neighbors. i did phone banking, and here's a guy, you know, he took off. there's beto o'rourke sitting in el paso who is not even an elected official right now organizing phone banks that i participated in to just get help to senior citizens, to do his part, while this guy takes a flat-out vacation and says, hey, your problem, texas. deal with it. >> you know, linda, there's two things here that i'd be curious to hear your perspective on. one of them is it really continues to bother and burn me that a majority of republicans in congress voted to overturn the election. a really like shocking abdication of basic just fundamental democratic values. nothing to do with like policy, ideology. just like -- and there's no accounting for that. no one seems to be apologizing for it. like we're a month later, but no soul searching. no like accountability moments about this thing that was just fundamentally wicked. >> it was fundamentally wicked, chris, and there is an accounting. people are leaving the republican party in droves, by the thousands, including myself. i've been a republican for a very long time. i've run for office as a republican, and i served republican presidents. but i don't want anything to do with this party now. even mitch mcconnell, who gave a, you know, good speech, still voted in a way that lets donald trump off the hook. and trump is going to be down there on mar-a-lago. he's going to be inviting people to come and bend the knee. he's going to be threatening those who don't pay obey sans to them that he will primary them, and he's got a huge portion of the republican base that is willing to support him. and that's a problem, and it's going to be a problem for the foreseeable future. i don't see it changing anytime soon. there's been no consequences to any of these people's actions, and i think it really could spell the death of the republican party. >> final just quick question to you, linda. you know, i was thinking about lindsey graham, right? he says after they come back after the capitol is attacked, he said, it's been a wild ride with me and trump and i'm off the train. i saw him give this interview recently, and he said, look, we need what donald trump brings. i thought to myself what an unbelievable damning statement, which is lindsey graham looks out, and thinks, we've got nothing except for the dude down in mar-a-lago. that's what they want. we've got to give that to them. i don't think he was necessarily wrong is the thing. >> well, and in fact what donald trump did do is bring a lot of people who didn't vote before into the voting booth and casting their votes for him. he was a reality tv star, and i think that stardom, that flash that he has was appealing to a lot of people. and i think there aren't many republicans out there who can fit that bill. but the party used to be about ideas. it used to be about principles. it used to mean something. i still consider myself a conservative. you and i probably don't agree on very much in terms of policy, but decency and character, that matters most. >> that i agree with. olivia troye and linda chavez, thank you both. appreciate it. don't go anywhere because as we come up on the one year of this pandemic, it sure looks like there may be, may be really good news about the road ahead. i'm going to lay it out for you. you heard me right. good news. stick around. i'm going to convince you. come on back. 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and then in the summer thinking maybe, maybe the worst of it's over. but every time i felt a glimmer of optimism, this indefatigable virus has come back to kick our butts once again. and after all we've been through, everyone is quite understandably wary of hope. but, but all that said, there are confluences of things happening right now that suggests it is possible, by no means guarantees, but truly eminently possible we really are through the worst of it, that some semblance of normalcy might be coming sooner than you think. let's go through that evidence. first off, new cases have been falling dramatic for the past month or so, as dramatically as they basically ever have. there's probably a bunch of reasons for that tied to behavior and seasonality and other factors but unlike other times we've seen big drops, the big difference is now we've got the vaccines. add david leonhardt of "the new york times" argues on twitter today, a lot of the messaging really is kind of underselling how awesome the vaccines are. i mean the evidence suggests a full dose effectively eliminates the risk of covid deaths, nearly eliminates the risk of hospitalization, dramatically reduces the ability to infect someone, including for the variants. on that last point, just this past wednesday, dr. anthony fauci said that while more research needs to be done, studies so far suggest the vaccines won't just protect you but also, crucially, slow the spread from person to person, keep you from infecting others. and despite some scare mongering stories and social media posts, the reality is that no one has died as a result of getting the vaccine, and virtually no one who has gotten a full dose has then died as a direct result of covid. it really is a scientific medical miracle. i mean look at this. this table from dr. ashish jha tells the story. in the vaccine trials, tens of thousands of people received the vaccine, okay? tens of thousands. and of those vaccinated, no one, not one was hospitalized. no one died from covid. no one died from the vaccine. zeros in all three columns. and now an israeli study has found the pfizer vaccine may offer strong protection after just the first dose. speaking of israel, nearly half the population in israel, not the west bank or gaza, i should note, have now gotten at least one vaccine dose, and nearly a third are fully vaccinated. and we're getting some really encouraging data from there. israel vaccinated its elderly population first, and this is the result. a big drop in hospitalizations for severe covid. among those 60-plus. that's the top line, the one that has come down dramatically. that's what happens when you vaccinate. we're seeing the impact of the vaccine here in the u.s. too. connecticut has done a particularly good job of proactively vaccinating nursing home residents, right? that's been the worst part of this crisis. more than 90% are now vaccinated in that state. look at this, okay? 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>> we made a decision really early on that we felt we needed to vaccinate all groups as soon as possible. once we had completed the health care sector, we were one of the first jurisdictions to finish all nursing homes. 100% of our nursing homes are done. then we immediately did firefighters paramedics, all the emergency response folks and also grocery workers and teachers. >> can you do this in a city that's bigger in the way you're doing it? >> absolutely. i always tell people, too, long beach, it's the same size of atlanta, georgia from a population d. certainly if we can do it here. we can do it anywhere. >> i'm really grateful you've done such a good job. >> thank you. >> jacob soboroff joins me now. really fascinating stuff here, jacob. the long beach approach that you talk about here has been different than a lot of places. a lot of places said we're going to start with seniors and work our way down in age. they really proactively went after these folks who are going to be most exposed independent of age. has there been controversy about that because these are tough choices? >> no. on the contrary actually, i mean i've never been around a politician who has received so much adulation for something so controversial. when i was there with him, you saw that little bit of people saying, good job. but i mean people were asking to take selfies with the mayor of long beach at a covid vaccine distribution site. they're seeing results in long beach, chris. they're opening schools. he just announced it yesterday. k to 5 in long beach is going to be opening in march, and lausd here, the largest school district in the nation, in the neighboring jurisdiction, there doesn't seem to be any sign of opening. and that's all -- all of that is what we want to get to the bottom of. i mean how policy is impacting all of this, not just how we got here because you remember california locked down first and fastest and hardest at the beginning of the pandemic, had catastrophic results. a million people in this county alone lost their jobs. and then we still ended up with a million people infected and 18,000 people in l.a. county dead. obviously the inequality fueled all that. but on the tail end, there are two clear policy approaches to this, the 65 and over, the age, and then essential workers first, grocery workers, longshoremen, just like the mayor mentioned, and he's the one seeing the results obviously. >> yeah. i was amazed to see because they had essentially targeted teachers for vaccination, they're vaccinating teachers, they're going to reopen schools. you also did some reporting on what it looks like in los angeles, which has had challenges. again, that's a much larger enterprise. it has its own challenges. but how are things going in l.a.? >> well, and not just that, it's a baseline of extreme inequality in los angeles. 495,000 households alone according to researchers at ucla are at risk of eviction in los angeles if those moratoriums end. there's 60,000 people sleeping on the street. there's a million undocumented people who don't have access to services here. so i went to dodger stadium, which happens to be closed today, but i talked to the fire chief of l.a. about literally getting the shots in the arms of the city of l.a. of 4 million people. this is what he said to me. was the pool of people who were eligible expanded to quickly? is that part of what happened here? >> that did happen. >> is there any chance that age only allows some of those essential folks to slip through the cracks? >> you hit it on the nose. people who have a higher likelihood of exposure may have to wait longer. >> so you can see it, chris, on the ground. but at street level it's really easy to see how these diverging policy approaches to the virus have had very, very different results, and in long beach things are going much better than they are here in the city of l.a. >> you also talk about this -- i mean this sort of strange paradox of covid policy and timing, which is that los angeles and california did quite well in the earliest part, locked down very hard, and then really got walloped in the late fall and winter. what happened? like what is your understanding after doing the reporting of why that happened? >> well, if you -- if you live like me in a single family home with your family and you have a job and you're doing television from your laundry room tv studio, you're pretty good. but if you live in pacoima, which became the epicenter of the epicenter, where alex padilla, our new senator is from, was born and raised, where the gm factory left van nuys and the fister brass factory closed and there's all kinds of extreme inequality and pofr there, you can only stay locked down for so long. you have to go back to work. so it is no surprise why that community has been hit the hardest in this city, especially in areas like that. there is no option to stay home and talk to chris hayes from your laundry room. you have to go back to work whether you're on the front lines as an undocumented health care worker or you work, like i said, down on the dock as a longshoreman. those are the people who are suffering the most, and they're still suffering, we should say. >> and this has replicated itself all over the country. time and time we saw it again in the latest cdc life expectancy data. we've seen it in the maps in new york city, my home borough of the bronx. i mean this has been one of the main stories, and it's one of the main themes of jacob soboroff's first episode of his new series "street level usa," which premieres tonight on peacock at 10:00 p.m. you should definitely check that out. thanks for making time tonight, jacob. >> thanks, chris. next, accusations new york governor andrew cuomo underreported deaths during the height of the pandemic. and now the department of justice is investigating. the latest after this. way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana. it's time for the ultimate sleep number event on the new sleep number 360 smart bed. what if i sleep hot? 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and just how much trouble could the governor be in? one of the top reporters on this story, jesse mckinley, of the "new york times," joins me now. jesse, let's first start. there's -- there is a sort of few tiers of this so i want to start with the substance, right? like, what were the -- what were the substantive moves by the governor on nursing homes during covid that are controversial and under investigation? and then, we'll talk a little bit about, like, the degree to which, maybe, he tried to cover up the data. so first, what's the -- what's -- what are the choices here that are made an issue? >> well, the main was is this march 25th memo that basically asked nursing homes to take back any resident that was either leaving the hospital or coming into the nursing home, regardless of covid status. so if they were covid positive, the nursing home was compelled basically to take those residents back. and that, at its time, was made, the governor says, because they were worried about the hospitals getting overwhelmed. they were worried about tens of thousands of people flooding hospitals and there not being enough hospital beds. but the end result of this buzz was fears that perhaps people coming back into nursing homes, which was fertile ground for this terrible virus. that those people were coming back, bringing the virus back, and setting out of outbreaks. so that was really -- that's really been the crux of the argument against that policy. and kind of where the governor's troubles began. >> right. but the -- i mean, so the key here though is like that might be a bad-policy choice, amidst crisis and pandemic, right? but it doesn't open you to, like, criminal investigation, right? it's what -- it's the response to what they did, afterwards, right, that has now opened him up to that. >> right. and it's a cliche and, of course, it's all allegations but it goes back to the coverup and not the crime, right? the -- what -- what people are worried about, legally, in terms of this, is that the governor for months and months and months did not release full data on the death toll inside of nursing homes. he was merely releasing the people that had died, physically, inside of the nursing home not at the hospital. which one lawmaker said to me tonight is kind of like if someone was hit by a car in the road. you wouldn't count it as a traffic fatality. you count it as a hospital death because they actually died at the hospital. so this seemed to be kind of deliberately undercounting the number of deaths from nursing homes. and that wouldn't have been controversial, in the moment. but it went on for months and months and months. lawmakers got very upset. outside groups got upset. journalists got upset that the information wasn't forthcoming. and then, just last week, his top aide, melissa dubrow said basically we did it on purpose. we were withholding this because we were worried about a federal investigation. >> right. so that tape comes out, and really is what has blown this out. so the policy was known all along. and the subject of criticism and defenses on the sort of merits of whether this was the right call. ron desantis took a different approach in florida and i think a lot of people thought that was the right thing to do. the frustration, though, with the lack of forthcoming, sort of data, was also long-standing. but the thing that blew this up is you have got his most-trusted aide, basically saying, yeah, we have been holding the data. >> yeah. that's where the feds got interested, too, quite frankly. our reporting and other publications have shown basically the federal investigation was sparked by those comments when the aide said basically we were worried about the impact of this. we were worried it was going to be used against us so we didn't give it to to the state for fear it would somehow get into federal hands or they, somehow, needed to address the federal investigation before the state. and that's really, apparently, what perked up the interest of the fbi. >> yeah. there is also, i mean, the broader theory -- issue here, too, right, is that like, this is someone who often conducts themselves, meaning the governor of new york. in a pretty empirious manner. he can be a tough customer, with folks. and i think, what you are seeing is that, like, that kind of bull in the china shop is maybe not serving him that well right now. as we comes under this increased scrutiny. >> you're diplomatic, as always, mr. hayes. yes, i think, that is true. mr. -- mr. cuomo is known as something of a tough boss. he's known for someone who is not afraid to raise his voice to make his point known. and -- and certainly, the other issue here is -- is, of course, his -- his brand, right? his political brand. where he got great reviews early on in this pandemic for being the straight shooter. the guy, who just the facts, i am not going to spin this and no politics. and now, this episode. this idea that -- that -- that facts that data was actually actively being withheld kind of goes against that image in a big way. so, you know, it's twofold. it's not always his sometimes abrasive manner has rubbed people the wrong way. you know, he lashed out against a lawmaker in queens this week, in a very kind of dismissive way. and the fact that he hasn't necessarily been honest about the data. those two factors are not -- it's not a good look for him. >> yeah. and i think, you know, throughout covid, right, there's these sort of two -- two -- there is people making lots of policy making -- makers making difficult judgments under conditions of extreme stress and uncertainty. sometimes, making the wrong ones. and then, there is are you being honest and transparent about what you are doing? and it's like the first are much more forgivable than not the latter. jesse mckinley, who is doing great reporting on this for "the times." thank you so much for your time. >> of course. that is all in on this friday night. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now with ali velshi in for rachel. >> good evening, thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. rachel's got the night off. for a friday, in the dark days of winter, certainly, a lot going on today. let's start with the team that president biden is trying to assemble and try is the operative word here. a month into his presidency, fewer than half of joe biden's cabinet nominees have been confirme

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