>> brian: now it's time for us to talk. #:00 a.m. on the east coast and thursday, may 30th. this is "fox & friends." thought hard stuff. fox news alert. jay two of jury deliberations for the new york vs. donald trump trial. the possible outcomes as we will go over thats at country watches and waits for the historic verdict. >> steve: in the meantime the current president joe biden kicked off his new black voter initiative yesterday in philly. >> that's why i'm proud to have the most diverse administration in history. talents of our country. trump is pandering and peddling lies and stereotypes. >> steve: really. senator tim scott says biden is on the pander express. that's some good writing right there. >> ainsley: texas dad going viral for his wife's advice to his daughter after he witnessed her bad break judgment. >> lawrence: we're going to have him on. "fox & friends" starts right now and remember, mornings are better with friends steve jors in the new york vs. donald trump trial will deliberate this morning at 9:30 after discuss thing the former president's fate four and a half hours day one yesterday. >> brian: starting at 9:30 a verdict at any moment. eric shawn outside the new york supreme court with the latest. eric, do you have the same taxi driver every day that brings tout same spot and have you said goodbye to him because you believe this will be the last day? >> well, you know, i'm glad i'm here, there was an accident right in front of me. they are getting off the fdr drive and the car in front of me slammed. in car next to us slammed. in but we are here and we are reporting this morning. today the jury will be back, brian. and they want to hear some testimony about what prosecutors say was the meeting where the alleged catch and kill scheme protect donald trump was hatched. yesterday they sent some notes to the judge, asking to hear this testimony read back. they want to find out more about the meeting that trump had with national inquirer publisher david pecker. michael cohen where they hammered out the agreement to buy the silence of women who could hurt his campaign according to prosecutors. the jurors asked to hear pecker and cohen's testimony about the august 2015 trump tower meeting. at that meeting it's where prosecutors say this scheme ban on april 23rd pecker told the jury this quote at that meeting donald trump and michael, they asked me what i could do. and what my magazines could do to help the campaign. i said that i would be your eyes and ears. if i hear anything negative about yourself or if i hear anything about women selling stories, i would notify michael cohen. they want to compare that to what cohen testified about that meeting. cohen said what he meaning pecker said he could keep an eight out about anything about mr. trump and he would be able to help us. trump told them the two of you should work together and anything negative that comes out, you let michael know and he will handle it. it seems that the jurors want to be seeing if pecker and cohen's claims align. in other words, if pecker can corroborate what cohen said. because, under new york state law the jury cannot believe cohen alone, only if what he claimed is corroborated. and the jury is also considering these three additional crimes that bump this up to a felony case. violations of federal campaign finance law. falsifying business records. or a violation of city, state, and federal tax laws. the jury also asked to hear the jury instructions yet again. that runs more than an hour and 55 pages. judge merchan trying to figure out if they want to narrow that down. on this very first day of jury deliberations, it seems well, they are starting with number one, david pecker, the first witness. starting at the very beginning. maybe we could be here a long time. don't know, have to see. brian, back to you. >> steve: eric, a real quick question. you would think given the fact that it took 90 minutes for the judge to review the jury instructions they would have a copy of it. but new york stated law says the jury instructions cannot be printed out and given to the jury. they got to remember it or take their own notes? >> yeah. this is like old school. like what they did in the 1890. >> lawrence: crazy. >> eric: not allowed to take anything with them. they have two laptops to look at the evidence you have to do with what you remember. that's exactly what they say. if they want to hear it again and be refreshed or reminded, they come back into the courtroom and they get read the stuff again. >> ainsley: they're allowed to take notes. i know one juror took copious notes. they are not allowed to have the testimony from the witnesses written out either. so they have to remember it. thank you, eric. >> brian: next time we want to see you without that overcoat. >> ainsley: it's raining. >> steve: great traffic. >> lawrence: wanted to destroy his suit. >> brian: i mean, just spray it with repellant and make it bead. steve scotch guard? >> ainsley: the judge said this to the jurors. if you find that any witness has intentionally testified falsely as to any material fact you may disregard that witness's entire testimony. well, cohen, is he a serial purger, is he an accomplice in. this and cohen each admitted to lying and stealing money from the trump organization. >> steve: i think that's why the jurors were asking, okay, tell us exactly what mr. pecker said so that we can compare it to michael cohen to see, you know, maybe it impiewns mr. cohen. then again maybe it reiterates and maybe he was telling the truth. >> lawrence: that is a lot of speculation going on start getting these notes out where the jury stands and all that, to be honest, none of us know where they are coming from. we can only speculate what they are thinking one thing that gives me comfort is there was not an immediate decision. >> steve: that would be crazy. >> lawrence: do you know what i'm saying? they are asking questions. it looks like they are starting way from the beginning. so, you know, for all the talk of the jury pool we know that 80% of the folks in manhattan voted for joe biden and how that may impact because they get the members of the jury from the voter rolls. so, i'm glad that they are actually putting some effort into the process. they are asking questions. i just got to say i think it's absolutely absurd to have what is it over 30 pages of jury instruction? and they can't go back and reference it? >> steve: it's the law, yeah. >> lawrence: that's a crazy law. >> steve: old school. >> brian: some of the verdict options what the former president could be looking at. got stay in the building. doesn't have to stay in the courtroom. here we go if convicted could get home confinement. he could get probation. could get conditional discharge. time charged on conditional discharge. fines. he can get fined and appeal it. of course he is going to appeal it if he is convicted. if acquitted, potential legal action for malicious prosecution. fuel for campaign obviously solidifies himself as a frontrunner. get a conviction, got it. you could get a hung jury where somebody says i just can't make up my mind i'm not going to go along with others. alan dershowitz worries me last night he said he ha has heard if one person is holding up the verdict i have had it in the past grant alternate. kick out that person and grab the alternate. can you imagine that? >> ainsley: how is that fair? >> brian: listen, i'm telling you what he said. i agree with you, ainsley. this will add more fuel to the fire this case never should have been brought for reasons that make no sense. >> ainsley: donald trump has to stay there in the courthouse. he doesn't have to stay in the courtroom. he has to be close by for obvious reasons when the verdict comes. in the judge will send -- the jurors will send a note via the court officer. then the judge will summon trump, his defense team, and the prosecutors. then the jury will be brought. in and the foreman will say do you have a verdict? they say yes or no. and then the foreman will read is it guilty or not guilty. >> brian: all 34, right? all 34 even though they are remarkably similar. >> steve: here's the thing. we were talking about before they started the jury instructions and everything else, how important the jury instructions were going to be. because it really depended on what the judge told the 12 jurors and the alternate, that would determine essentially the glide path for figuring this out. well, andrew weissman, who san msnbc legal analyst. apparently what judge merchan presented and was reported from the courthouse, he thought it was great. and, in fact, had this observation and this revelation yesterday over on the other channel. >> judge merchan, i mean, i am like, now, you know, i have like a man crush on him. >> right? >> he is such a great judge that it's hard to see that the jurors wouldn't have the same impression. he's just -- you just keep on thinking if you looked in the dictionary for judicial temperament, that's what you would get. >> keep in mind who andrew weissman is. he was the chief investigator of the mueller report. fell flat on his face. this guy wakes up weaponized to go after donald trump. that's why he likes this judge. this judge who has given to left wing causes and to joe biden's campaign specifically, you know, his wife works for letitia james and daughter works for adam schiff as well as dan goldman and other prominent democrats. you would think an dry wise man might say if he loved the law i have a real problem the way he has hammered on the defense the way he has wreached it and i have a real problem with the fact that he sat on this case. >> lawrence: they are fawning over this judge and maybe this goes to the point of that it was never about a legitimate case. it was what they could weaponize during the political campaign. all the reasons that you just cited, brian, are why some analysts are saying look, they may get a conviction here. it's going to be turned over during an appeal. >> brian: not until january. >> lawrence: not until january. this goes to the politics. i got to say when it comes to some of the stuff put in the instructions and some of the stuff that was allowed during the closing argument that he didn't allow during the the actual trial. you can't start talking about election law and say the defense can't bring a person that was the actual chair of the fec, so how are you allowi allowing thig closing? how are you mentioning this during the jury statements? there is conflict all over this case. >> ainsley: it is riddled with error. let's bring in rnc co-chair lara trump. >> good to be with you. >> ainsley: what did msnbc says he has a man crush on the judge. >> cnn, nbc, msnbc, all the same. this guy is a hero to the left. you have to take a look at all the ways he has rules against donald trump and his defense and for the prosecution. let's start at the beginning, let's start with the facts that miraculously and defying all stage probabilities this judge has gotten every anti-trump case possible. he got allen weisselberg, the former cfo of the trump organization, steve bannon and now donald trump. we remember he slapped an unconstitutional gag order against donald trump at every possible turn for the prosecution, and against the defense, i would love to see the contrast of overturned objections the defense vs. the prosecution in this case. we have seen time and time again how he has weighed the scales. he wouldn't even allow the defense to call a witness that would have shown what a sham and total waste of time this entire trial is. and then just to put the final nail in the coffin for donald trump. and to weigh the scales as much as humanly possible. he told the jury you don't have to be unanimous. choose whatever you want and we'll work it out on the other end. >> brian: right, with the second crime, right lara, with the second crime. >> and if you are a person that wants joe biden to be assisted by this case and you dislike trump, i bet you have a big man crush on juan merchan but anybody, to your points you guys just made a second ago, who cares about the law, who actually cares about the future intelling telling gri at this of america ought to look at this case and judge and feel shame and embarrassment because that's is exactly what it is. >> lawrence: so, lara, how is the former president? let's just be real here. is he facing jail time right here. >> steve: a lot. >> lawrence: a lot of time there he is not able to campaign right now. he's stuck in the courthouse. we could get a verdict soon how is the morale of him? >> is he remarkable. lawrence, you know. this you guys have seen him day in and day out on the way into that courtroom and leaving that courtroom talking to the press every day, saying whatever he can, of course, with this crazy gag order. i have never seen a person with the focus of donald trump. i have never seen someone who can be facing so much, who can really not just take it and still remain standing, but still be fighting. not only has he gone in that courtroom every day and had to sit there and listen to lie after lie, knowing what they ever trying to do to him, knowing this is bawl politics he least the courthouse and goes a bodega in harlem. delivers pizzas to the firefighters. holds a rally in the deep blue bronx. new york, and that's that tells you what you need to know about this man. >> never back down this just like everything else i believe will boomerang and only. >> brian: how detailed are the plans for the campaign judging on this scenario that are possible at some time we believe this week when a verdict comes down? >> yeah. i mean, you have to think about that. of course, this is something that has been the goal. they wanted him locked in the courtroom and not out on the campaign trail. why not lock him in his home so he can't go out and campaign as well. i think it makes it very obvious that this is truly about election interference and nothing else. at the eat the end of the day. we will turn lemons into lemonade like donald trump continues to do every single turn we will have him doing virtual rallies and campaign if that is the case play the hand we are dealt. everything stacked against him from the day he came down to the golden escalator trump tower in 2015 and decided to run for president as a republican. it continues to be stacked against him today. despite all of it, he always ends up on top. and this will be no different. >> steve: all right. lara, thank you very much. we know have you got a very busy day. thank you for kicking things off with "fox & friends." >> thanks, guys. >> brian: i saw his comments yesterday mother teresa was not going to get off on this case because of this jury. is he not unrealistic or playing to exceptions. >> ainsley: how mad he was. >> brian: i love the way he segued into robert deniro. i thought that was definitely noteworthy. the thing is i also know the jurors will put on the television when they get home at 4:30 and say what did trump say? and today they can go as late as 6:30, correct? >> ainsley: 6:00. i believe. >> steve: they can do just about anything it could take over an hour. >> ainsley: court date runs 9:30 to 4:30 about the lunch break. the meals are delivered. the judge said the jurors can extend the day up to #:00 p.m. judge jeanine last night said something interesting. you get so close to the judge. the judge is involved. >> steve: he is the boss. >> ainsley: he is the boss. you respect him. you give him the instructions. he takes your lunch order or orders the lunch for you. >> steve: let's see. there have been predictions about different times. i wouldn't be surprised if it happened pretty much toward the end of business. >> brian: today? >> steve: tomorrow. friday. because they want the weekend off. and by then they will have made up their minds. >> brian: do they want friday off? >> ainsley: a lot of information to go through. >> steve: absolutely. that's why it's puzzling they would ask for excerpts even though they have the laptop. we told you how joe biden yesterday, along with kamala harris in a rare joint appearance. going to kick off the black voters for biden event in the filly event. there they are at girard college a majority blackboarding schools for kids between first and 12th grade. and for the most part, i think this was kind of a relaunch. they are going the wrong direction when it comes to telling everybody in appearance and anybody peering in what he has done for them during his presidency. watch a little of this. >> memorial day, i proudly stood with a black man, the highest order of the first black secretary of defense. second black chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. black women heads of military units. overseeing the most diverse, strongest fighting force in the history of the world. [cheers] and, folks, the threat that trump poses is greater in his second term than his first. it's the same guy who wanted to tear gas you. as you peacefully protested george floyd's murder. today donald trump is pandering and peddling lies and stereotypes for your vote so he can win for himself, not for you. >> lawrence: a couple things here: he is referring to the summer of 2020 almost $2 billion of damage. virtually almost major city on fire. that's why tear gas was going all over the place. it's not like you have people not being anarchists in all the major cities. brian ask bryan llenas he covered a lot of it in new york city. >> lawrence: that's the after the bronx rally. take a look at the some of the pictures there. it was virtually empty there it wasn't this massive event. the third thing is, you are standing in a boarding school where everyone can't afford this type of stuff. you are against school choice. so why not have an education message. say something positive to influence the voters instead of something much different there. >> brian: he made up a lot of stuff, again, he think it's important to bring up every single time that delaware was a slave state that didn't fight for the confederacy. okay. fantastic. thanks for the uplifting moments. meanwhile, he says that he basically was raised and got start at delaware state university historically black college. no proof he was ever there. kind of had to walk back that he said he got arrested standing up for a black family standing on somebody's porch. told howard stern that no record of that says is he a civil rights activist. i never went to selma or anything. he says i was basically raised in a black church. there is no proof of any of that any pastor or priest or whatever come forward and go, yeah, little joe biden used to come in at 16 and ask me can you raise me because i guess my dad is selling cars and can't be home on time. i don't know what the deal was. >> steve: brian, the good news, is he did not refer to uncle bose the cannibal this time making progress. >> ainsley: talk about how the duration works gawcket lives for the community. removing lead pipes and polution. high speed internet and protection of obamacare. and then senator tim scott from south carolina, he posted on x he said next stop on the pander express. >> brian: is he desperate. 8-figure investment in getting student groups out in the message of the biden administration to young black men and women. >> steve: think about that, if he is under water with students, particularly with gaza and stuff like that, pay those groups to be on board with him. >> lawrence: i think you have to compare the message that was delivered in the bronx to what was delivered there. and it was a pro-go out there, go after it. you can do it. i'm going to support you, compared to. >> brian: america is a racist place. >> lawrence: you can't make it because -- by the way, when he was at the black church and all this stuff he allegedly was, did he tell them th