high on the hills of simin' valley sends a monument, ronald reagan. the great communicator.ch america's 40thie commander-in-chief. government.lish big >> the nine most terrifying words in the english languag e are i in from the government and i am here to help. and >> sought peace through strength. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. [cheering] >> 40 years after reagan's last reelection the republican partye faces critical questions. what does it mean to be a conservative? quickly fight for the truth. >> we are not going to worry about what the left and the immediate say about us. >> what is the key to a thriving economy? >> is not regulation forre.he >> america can d'so for everyto anyone what she's done for me. >> we will stop the spending. the borrowing will stop the earmark for.e in >> was america rolled the worldt we need to build a military fitted to the widening challenges in an ever more dangerous world. sometimes we avoid the war. the country faces even more challenges.fr what reagan even recognize that country in which we now live? tonight candidate seeking the ke republican nomination converging california to chart a new path to the grand old party. now is the time for choosing. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> welcome to the second republican debate of the 2024 primary. live from the ronald reagan t presidentialhe library in simi valley, california. we are inside the spectacular aiherer force one pavilion the e is set for a showdown. i am stuart varney of foxbusiness i'm thrilled to be sitting alongside my coat moderator dana perino and ilian, calderón good evening. >> thank you, thank you stuart.i technically described america as a shining city on tya hill andog tonight seven candidates will make in the case they should beo the one to lead the city into a brighter tomorrow. but first they have to convince you, the voter. please allow me too welcome our spanish-speaking audience. the five and good evening let's meet the candidates who have qualified and chosen to be on o this stagerd tonight. they are positioned by the order they rank in the polls with the highest pulling candidate in the middle. panic center stage florida governor desantis. [applause] [cheering] dana: entrepreneur vivek ramaswamy. former s south china governor nikki haley. [applause] [cheering] ilia: next is senator tim scot. florida governor chris christie. see five wings tonight former vice president mike pensive. [applause] [cheering] in north dakota governor doug burgum. [applause] stuart: we have questions on alive variety of issues candidates get one minute tonds answer and 30 seconds to respond if singled out. when their time it rents out we will all hear this. we have a lot of ground toua cover. sort please keep it civilized. dana: let's get going. we are in the spacious sunny place tonight designed toe reflect the very nature andt character of ronald reagan. ma it is a place that makes you proud to be an american. yet, today our nation is a drowning and division and instability. voters say thed y dread the 202d election and politicstw exhausting. two and three americans think the country is on the wrong track. three and four say the economy is not in good shape. stuart: are up 18% since 2020.po more than half of the u.s. population has little access tof childcare.onal 85% of americans say personal finances are a source of stress. dana: americans want to believe a leader who says you can follow me, i have got you. do notdo worry. president biden is trying to do that with bidenomics. stuart: yesterday joined thes ar picket lines will auto workers are demanding more wages and job security. senator scott, you recentlyis reacteind on fire and air traffc controllers in 1980 saying you strike, you are fired.riki would you fire us thousands oft? striking autoworkers today? what sums to the president has his cannot fire anybody in the private sector. however, we should look back att the first bill in congress under joe biden. the first bill had $86 billion for that unfor the union pensioe they continue to overpromise yet under deliver.derd the one of the chall challenges we e with the current negotiation s is they want before they work weeks but more money. they want more benefits working fewer hours. that is simply not going to stand. i sat on the finance committeegh here when a widow came before the committee who was promised o pensions from the unions.h. $4000 a month. unfortunately it had been cut to $1000 a month. we must make sure that we honor the commitments we make. one of the ways we do that, do not overpromise and then under deliver. leave the taxpayers on the hook. i will say this, joe biden should not be on the picket line he should be on these southernr border working to close our southern border because it is o unsafe, widepe open leading to e deaths of 70000 americans in the last 12 months because of fentanyl. it is devastating. every county in america is now a border co county because of fentanyl has devastated americans in every single state i will also say 6 million illegal crossings since joe biden has taken office. and he eliminated title 42 per the one thing he should do is t- finish the wall, reinstate title 42 and get the job done. 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[applause] dana: i can promise you willan have a lot of questions on theet border and immigration in the meantime we doing to talk abouta the economy anndd jobs.ik especially what toe talk about the strike for just a moment more. mr. tried what you said you empathize the strikers do you agree with what he said did you think is wrong? what side with some of what he said for sure like the spirit of it. i don't have a lot of patiencean for that union bosses that's were he and i have a common view lot.or you have a lot of sympathy for the workers however. we are going to real hardship i. this country. i've been through hardship growinr g up.ff my father stared down layoffs a' ge under jack welch's tenure at the ge plant and evendale, ohio for my mom had to work overtime in nursing homes and southwest m ohio to make endees meet and paa off our home loan. so i understand hardship is not a choice. a but victimhood is a choice. we choose to be victorious inth the united statee s of america. if i was giving advice to thosed workers i would say go picket it front of the white house in washington d.c. that is really where the protest needs to be. disastrous economic policies that have driven up prices that have driven up interest rates a ant d mortgage rates at the sam. time wages remaining stagnant. what we need is to deliver economic growth in this country. unlike american energy, drill,e frak, burn coal, embrace nuclear energy, the people back to work by no longer paying them more money to stay at home. stabilize the u.s. dollar itself and rescind a majority of those unconstitutional federalou regulations that are hampering our economy. that is how we unleash americane exceptionalism. that is not a democratic vision or a republican vision that is an american vision that we embrace economic growth and capitalism is still the best system known to man to lift us up from poverty. we should not apology for that is what it means to be an american. [cheering] before to gather the ceos of general motors, ford, make 336e times the number of the number of rank and file workers. that is justt part of a widerin income inequality trend in the country for the richards 1% nowh controlses one fifth of allce income. based president pence, last week yoyou said you side with americn workers. you also support how these companies operate. which is it? >> thank you for the questionis foior doing to thank univision d foxbusiness for assembling such a wonderful form. look, i do disagree something tim scott just said joe bidenng does not believe on a ticket line he belongs on thei unemployment line.m fr [applause] i am from the second-leading manufacturing state in the country per capita. i was governor of the state of indiana. we brought 12000 factories and back to america during our administration. i know something about manufacturing. i have got to tell you whileg ab that union bosses or tongue but class warfare and talk about, disparity and wages i have to tell you i really believe what is driving that is a bidenomics has failed. wages arflate not keeping up wih inflation rate autoworkers and all american workers are feeling get them families are struggling in this economy. joe biden's green new deal agenda is good for beijing andre bad for detroit. we ought to repeal the green new deal. andaget rid of the mandates and subsidies that are driving american gasoline, automotive manufacturing into the the gravd and beyond that also, ash president of the united states i will be senate with workers alln diacross america. i will be standing for the righg to work up every american.r to join a union or not join a union as they decide. sue for center's got you weret thmentioned your care to respona >> joe biden needs to bet' fired that's why i'm running for president i look forward to being the next president of the united states. i will also say i know american due for anyone what she is done for me. it is why we are focusing onport restoring hope, creating opportunities and protecting the america we all love her growing up in a single-parent householde i wonder if the american dream t would work for a kid in thed inner-city. i have gotne for good news for h single child whether you are ina the inner cities of chicago are the rural parts of iowa, america and the dream it is alive. it is well and it is healthy. god bless these united states on america. [cheering] [applause]ed y cooks governor haley raised a hand? >> we need to looke ne at exacth what happened. biden showed up onow u that pict line but why are those workers actually there?e it is because of all of then spending he has pushed throughok in the economy that is raisedwe inflation. so when you look at the fact wep are paying higher gas prices, higher grocery prices, $7000 we more a year for families, but we need to do a is i can open economic plan eliminate the gas and diesel tax so they have more money in their pocket. m its focus on going after middlee america and cuttinrig taxes for. middle america and collapsing those brackets. let's get rid of unfair distortions like the state and local tax that they give to wealthy people in blue states and not in red states. tax let's make sure we make the small business taxes permanent. they only made those temporaryxe they made the corporate taxes permanent. let's focus on what it takes to get more cash in the pockets of workers.ocke that is the way we will be able to go strikes like this.deal not sitting on a picket line like joe biden's. >> thank you to prohibit other questions i got to about the economy. >> i am sorry i have too. i have to jump in we aren't missing the point in every other network is missing the point. i the reason my people are striking in detroit is because joe biden's interference with capitol markets and with free markets the subsidies we are subsidizing the automakers andto we are subsidizing the cars and a particular kind of carpet nott every car we are particularly w subsidizing electric vehicles. when you decide were going to take all of your taxpayer monies, take a billion dollars subsidize a certain type of vehicle and the batteries comek from china. china controls 85% of the rare earth minerals they are called rare earth because they are measured in parts per million. china ichina is moving wondered thousand pounds of earth and indonesia, and africa they areh literally destroying the planet so we can make a battery that's in a car subsidize here.use that is why they are striking they need two thirds less workers to build an electric car. joe biden, this strike is a joe biden's feet. [applause]omy five oh 36 allow mate to follow question to government governovr christie for the government will shut down if congress does notoe reach nda deal by the end of ths week. vice president pence warns a politics of quote trumps populist prodigies like mr. vivek ramaswamy are a road to ruin for the gop. if the government shuts down should voters blame populist republicans question it. >> they should blame everybody who was in washington d.c.>> they get sent down there to doo. the job they've been failing att doing the job for a very long time. let's be honest about this withn these voters. during the trump administration trump administrationthey added , $7 trillion in national debt.he another biden administration has put another 5 trillion on and counting. they have failed and they are in the spot they are in now because none of them are willing to tell the truth. none of them are willing to take on the difficult issues. they just want to keep kicking the can down the road. the inflation that nikki spoke about as absen is absently righs spending.government people all across this country are suffering tonight. ans and yet we don't get any answere because joe biden hides in his basement and will not answer as to why is raising thhee debt the way he has done. is done. donald trump hides behind th we walls of his golf clubs ande won't show up here to answer questions like all the rest of us are appear to her to answer but he put seven choi on theansw debt he should be in this room to answer those questions for thare people you talk about whof are suffering. and if the government closes, and if the government closes it is to the blame of everyone in washington d.c. who has failed to do their job and just plays displays tothe grandstand. [inaudible] ilia: the next ques question isr governor desantis.gove [inaudible] [inaudible] ilia: can we please respect the time it. governor desantis you have not spoken please be. >> the people in washington are shutting down the american dreac with their reckless behavior. they borrowed, they printed, they spent and now you are paying more for everything.. they are the reason for that. they have shut down our nationar sovereignty by allowing our border to be wid wide open so pe spare me the crocodile tears for these people but they need to change what is going on and where is joe biden?n he is completely missing in action frohip.m leadership. judy who else is missing in action? donald trump is missing in action he should be on the stage tonight. he owes it t to you to defend hs record where they added 7.8 trillion to the debt. that set the stage for the inflation that we have now but o can say this is governor florida we cut taxes elite ran surpluses, we have paid downt, over 25% of our state debt i vetoed wasteful spending when it came to my desk and as your w president when they sentas me ag bloated spending bill is going to cause your prices to go up in am going to take of this veto pen i'm going to send it right back to them. [inaudible] see if i'm going to center scott that's on the minds of a lot of moms and dads in america i knowo even thinking about it becausey' childcare costs they are up, they are topping 10,000 dollars per month.endi some families are spending up to half their income on childcare. they are having to decide is it worth it for me too work? is it not make sense for me financially question with three days of billions of dollars of pandemic-era thr funding is goio end and 70000 acres could close so you had an effort to broaden eligibility for child caret assistance that fell apart last year. for the moms and dads out there who are worried, what can you tell them if you w you were ablo get it to the congressul how cod you do as president?ress >> one of things i did as member of congress was to make sure wet protectehed the head starty gi programs around the country. giving people the opportunity to pick and choose the place theywe send their children. the challenges that we see todaa under the biden administration is the cost for daycare has gon over $15000 per child., he and that build back a broker plan he calls it "build back better" plan it was going up to $29000. that way we fix that problem isa toct make sure we actually cut taxes and give more americans y back.one what i helped write the tax cuts and jobs act we actually lowered a single mother's taxes by 70% on the federal level. for dual income households by 60%. then we went a step further we doubled the child tax credit and made it refundable. by doing that more parents had more resources to make theces decisions how to take care ofei their r family for the one thins we should do is let the american people keep their money. when that happens the greatest opportunities arise from the ashes. y> 15 seconds go ahead and the were going to the border.a >> does mischaracterize put in my view its artificial division is unhelpful in our party. the real divide is not between their republicans on the staged. in the reagan library and want r to say these are good people on the stage. the real divide is between the majority of us in this country who love the united states of america and share our founding ideas. free speech, meritocracy, the idea you get ahead in this country not on the color of your skin but on the content of yourh charactearr and the fringe of minority in the democrat partys that has a chokehold over that party, that is the divide. dana: are going to the border. [inaudible]ut we are going to talk about immigration and the border. [inaudible] we have all of these questions y were going touo get to were goim toe. come back to there's a lotf time. >> no one answered the question britt north dakota we knew the clip was coming probably knew there wacopps going to be millis of people without it and guess what we planned.asse we passed legislation.esti ilia: cert will get you some questions you're going to haveeo to let us move our going to the border next too. [inaudible] can i get a chance to respond? >> speaks. ilia: president ronald reagan said thee following. >> the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots too who have lived here even though sometime back they may have entered illegally. ilia: two years later presidentt reagan granted amnesty to nearly 3 million immigrants.ca something no democrat or republican president has done since. governor christie, as governor of a non- border state in 2010hp you supported a path to p citizenship. but whenre he ran for presidentn 2016 you flipped saying immigrants should be tracked like fedex packages. where do you stand now on a patp to citizenship for 11 million immigrants question rick is a promise since nobody's done anything since we first had thie discussion 13 years ago we areo not in a position to be able toh do any of that anymore. but we have to do now is first to treat this like the law enforcement problem that it isbk great our laws are being broken every day of the southern border. every day. joe biden and his crew is doing nothing about enforcing that law. they are letting it go and by the way they announce during the presidential race they're going to let it go. we need to have a president who acts like i did as governor, enforce the law. first and foremost and that means but i will do on day oned is signed executive order to send the nationaual guarrdd to partner with customs and bordert patrol to makeha sure that we sp the flow of fentanyl over the border. but also to make sure we send ad much differentif message.e we want you here in this country to fill the 6 million vacant jobs that we have it.fo llbut only if you come here to follow the law and only if you come here legally.pp ifre you come here illegally we will apprehend you and we willao send you back across the border from which you came. s the fact is that until we set as law and order agenda in this fut country, not only now but in the future we will not be able to continue this. i will tell you this, donald trump failed on this as well.d he said he was going to build ad wall across the wholere border. he built 52 miles of austin mexico would pay for it guess what, if mexico newly so i going to build 52 mostly might've paid for the 52 miles. [laughter] works thank you. governor haley? >> most illegal immigrants are coming from countries south ofth the border. you've seen a fox news and drono it has captured a steady stream of people coming into the country on a daily basis but in fact i think we have eight live a picture of it tonight that is happening right now live. in the last decade the u.s. is spent nearly $55 billion to address the root causes of migration. but crime, poverty, corruption persists the number of migrants is only growing. are we wasting our money? g >> what happens is when joene biden waved the greey?n flag it told everybody to come.gr now weee have seen 6 million h people cross the border we have had more fentanyl that have killed americans than the iraq, or wars combined. we need to make sure we arean country ofd laws the second wen stop being a country of lawstr give up everything this countryt was foundehid on.rd so we have to secure theer bord by the way wwee do that is first of all defense sanctuaries is you see what's happening in philadelphia right now. it has got tngo stop.? we do to make sure we put 25000 more border patrol and ice agents on th more ground and let them do their job but i spent 400 miles down that border and i am telling you border patrolro agents are not allowed to dot their job. let's go back to remain a mexico policy instead of catch and c release let's go to catch and deport you. >> what about the aid of federac taxpayers are painted of the root causes it's not working or is it? >> the only aid we should beto spending right now is to secure the border by the southern border, the northern border.nd we need to keep americans safe and right now americans are not safe. only only fix the immigrationer system. only the maggots are bordelookrr secure should we ever look at putting any more money into this.e our money should bnoe about keeping americans safe.t we are not doing that. joe biden is notdo doing that yu mentioned congress in shutting down government. i will make it clear we have tor change the budgeoct process in four years, and at 40 years congress is only delivered a budget on time four times in 40 years. if they don't keep the government open, they should no get paid, no pay no budget. >> governor desantis we have ast question for you. buteverett desantis, china inved $12 billion and a latin america just last year.c they signed a strategic partnerships with seven countries including mexico. china's military ties to thearme region now include armed sales and training exercises.na are you comfortable with chinao? deepening ties with their southern neighbors?th >> of course not for the reason why we are in this mess is thear leads and disease for far too long have chosen surrender overo strength when it t comes to the ccp. some people inin c ourou countrn rich. our industrial base goalt hollob out they have been able to buill the second most powerful military i n the entire world. we need a totally new approach to china. we are going to have real hard power in the end of pacific like reagan to deter their ambitions but we are going to have economic independence from china where we are decoupling ouraf economtey and we are going to g after the cultural power they have in this country. as governor of florida i've banned the ccp from buying land in our states.tes. we should do that all acrossr these united states freight we should not have in our universities we should not have confucius institutes. you see a country in decline, our powers and decline, china is going to surpass us this decade. if they do that that's going to affect every single american household. as youdollr president i am not e to let that happen i'm going to reverse this country's decline we are going to choose strength not surrender when it comes to the ccp. >> americas and decline under joe biden we are country andic retreat ilia: universal deportation fort immigrants and their children if evenhild if the children are s citizens of the united states. under what legal premise will you expel u.s. citizens? >> the first thing i say is i agree everything their publicsi on the stage on the right side of this issue. militarizimilitarize the southe. stop funding sanctuary cities and end foreign aid to mexico t and central america to end the incentives to come across. ame but i do go a step for that youu are right about that. i've favorite ending birthright citizenship for the kids of illegal immigrants in thisleft country. now the left will howl about the constitution and the 14th amend but the difference are to me and then as i've actuallyth read the 14th amendment.erso what it says is all persons born or naturalized in the united states and is sub subject to ths and jurisdiction thereof are d citizens. so nobody believes thein kid ofa mexican diplomat in this country enjoys birthright citizen not a judge or legal scholar in this country will disagree with me on that. if the kidca of a mexican diplot does not enjoy birthright citizen neither does the kid upi and illegal migrants who broke the lock to come here.om and as the father of two sons it's hard for me too look them in the eye and say you have to follow the law when our own government fails to follow its own laws for that is how we really go the distance and solve this problem and restore the a rule of law in the united states of america because that is part of what it even means to be an american. >> there is no doubt the fact you think of the constitution the 14th amendment was written as wri it relates to slavery nos it relates to illegal immigration but applied to legal immigration the challenge we face is in fact when it has topp do with whether or not the people that come here or under the jurisdiction of our laws and frankly few co you come here ily you are not.urt surviving a supreme courti argument is something i can't tellro you. but from a perspective of the constitution i think it is simple. clearly it was designed foril slaverley and not for illegalhog immigration i'll go one stepout further though.in we have a conversationg with te things happening on t this stagt we think about the t fact vivekl ramaswamy it said were all gooda people i appreciate that because last debate he said we were alle bought and paired for. t i thought about that for a little while instead i can't imagine how you could say that knowing you were just in business with the chinese communist party and the same people that funded hunter biden millions of dollars as a part of yours as well. >> that's nonsense.es >> ie want to respond. these are good people who are tainted by broken system.s it's not thehe fault of anyone o the politic paid.nt ed[inaudible] progress excuse me, excuse meak thank you for speaking andin interrupting. if i may, if i may. [inaudible] gentleman you will have your turn. [inaudible]s >> can we please focus on the issues that matter?s everybody knows thatth.fo >> if i may. [inaudible] >> if i could answer the question i agree with ron desantis be. >> everyone speaking at the same time know can understand. >> exactly for me if i agree oth with ron desantis on china every other ceo expanded into thei chinese market and what i dot with my first company?y in we open a subsidiary and try to but you know i did that was different than every otherof t country? we got out of there when i started my next company.s that was years ago. bro i started my next company we strive to compete against black rock frequently skews me too compete against black rock. i made a commitment we would never do business in china and s will say something. much of more than time tour explain for. >> i was p interrupted by a lotf people i want to be respectful.b >> you will respect the last debate. >> i d o not believe we are sitting in the reagan library.a, wish we could honor ronald reagan's library. i am an admirer of ronald reagan. from one admirer of reagan to read that we cannot. [inaudible] this is counterproductive. >> i don't even understands undg on. [inaudible]]. [inaudible] the righy, it answer to declares independence with china.ti pre >> thank you very much., >> vice president pence in 2017 thpence trump administration canceled dak out which but the legal of 600,000 dreamers in th0 hands of the courts.d pa they pay taxes as a president if the supreme court and decca, will you work with congress to reach a permanent solution for dreamers? let's first let me say i am glad vivek ramaswamy for thoseha business don't sign that's about the time he served voting ine presidential elections. y it'sou nice to have yous. participating in elections. let me speak to this issue. number one, i negotiated the remaining mexico policy with the mexican government. we as economic power to bringo the mexican government to the table. we built hundreds of miles of milborder wall and despite whas said here today we reduce illegal immigration asylum abust by 90%. as president of the united states i can do it again. s wellt and foremost, a nation without boarders is not a nation. we have to secure the southern border of the united states of america, i know how to do it and we will do it again. let me say one other thing about china. one other thing about china -- ilia: vice president, would you negotiate with congress to give a solution to the problem that dreamers have right now? they are in limbo? >> let me tell you, you served in congress for 12 years all though it seemed longer. you know something i've done different than everybody on this stage is i've actually secured reform in congress. you know, ron, you talk a really good game about cutting spending but you've increased spending in florida by 30%. when i was a member of congress in 2006, right after hurricane katrina, dana, you remember it, we stood our ground. i led house conservatives, we cut $100 billion out of the federal budget. it can be done but this is no time for on the job training. i'm going to be ready on day one to get congress to step up, secure the southern border of the united states, build a military fitted to our times, and we're going to get spending in washington dc under control once and for all. stuart: i propose to go to a break. how will these candidates make america safer as rising crime plagues our cities? debate night continues in momentmoments. ♪ >> tech: cracked windshield on your new car? you don't have to take it to the dealer. bring it to safelite. we do more replacements and recalibrations than anyone else. >> customer: thank you so much. >> tech vo: schedule now. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪ (vo) it's another ultimate endless shrimp flavor drop with new tequila lime shrimp one of seven endless choices right now, only at red lobster welcome to fun dining ♪ neither snowcapped mountains, nor puddles of water, nor unexpected detours with a 20 foot drainage pipe, can stop the ruggedly capable telluride x-pro from getting you to your dinner reservation on time. ♪ okay! ♪ [music playing] subject 1: cancer is a long journey. it's overwhelming, but you just have to put your mind to it and fight. subject 2: it doesn't feel good because you can't play outside with other children. subject 3: as a parent, it is your job to protect your family. but here is something that i cannot do. i cannot fix this. i don't know if my daughter is going to be able to walk. i don't know if she's going to make it till tomorrow. 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[music playing] ♪ dana: and welcome back to the reagan library for the second republican presidential debate. i want to remind everyone, there's one minutes for questions and 30 seconds for foal follow up. we want to talk about crime. this has been a horrendous problem in the country and fox news and everyone else covering it. governor christie, last night looters took over the streets of philadelphia. you said in the last debate that you'd use u.s. attorneys to prosecute crimes local prosecutors won't. but they are stretched as well and they could not handle all of the lawlessness and shoplifting and all the carjackings and the armed robberies. they're all submersibling. progressive prosecutors -- surging. progressive prosecutors were elected by constituents and can't be fired by a president. what would you do to end the revolving door of criminallal -- criminality? >> dana, i'm the only one that's done it and ran the fifth largest office in the coup couny and set records for the prosecution. the crime is affecting people's lives and as president, i'll appoint a attorney general and instruct that attorney general you're to put all the resources necessary to bring our zi cities back under control. the fact is they will be stretched. there's no doubt about that but they what they take the job for and love the idea of enforcing the law. we've got to bring law and order back to the country and not just in our cities, but we need to law and order back everywhere. we need it back in our supporter bushes, people are threatened there, in our rural area, people feel threatened there, and we need it in washington to see also. donald trump should be here to answer for that, but he's not. i want to look at the camera right now and tell you, donald, i know you're watching. you can't help yourself. i know you're watching. you're not here tonight not because of polls and not because of your indictments. you're not here tonight because you're afraid of being on this stage and defending your record. you're ducking these things and let me tell you what's going to happen, you keep doing that, no one up here is going to call you donald trump anymore, we're going to call you donald duck. dana: governor desantis, you fired a couple of prosecutors in your state. as president, you'd not have the ability to do that. how do you think about dealing with the root causes of crime, especially this resolving door of the criminals that just get out and come back and commit another crime? >> well, the crime in the cities is one of the strongest signs of the decaying of america. we can't be successful as a country if people aren't even safe to live in places like los angeles and san francisco. just being in southern california over the last couple days, my wife and i have met three people who have been mugged on the street and that would have never happened 10 or 20 years ago. in florida, we back the blue. we support the men and women of law enforcement. they are keeping us safe. we have a 50-year low in the crime rate and yes, when i had two progressive prosecutors that weren't following the law in florida, i removed them from their post and the people of florida are safer as a result of it. as president, i will use the justice department to bring civil rights cases against all of those left wing soros-funded prosecutors. we're not going to let them get away with it anymore. we want to reverse this country's decline. we need to choose law and order over rioting and disorder. stuart: on a related subject, governor hilly, there's a natioa nationwide policing shortage and retirement is up and recruitment is in the tank and moral at record low. thee years ago, you signed a pledge to support law enforcement. now pledges are a nice idea but what's your actual plan to get more police on our streets? >> well, i actually did it in south carolina too. you know, what we knew in south carolina is you take care of those who take care of you. we have to start taking care of law enforcement. but it's not just taking care of them with words but making sure you also follow through on what they do. right now there's a lot of stolen guns on the street. these law enforcement officers they arrest these people and then they go and they're let out the very next day. so law enforcement feels like they don't -- no one has their back. we have to prosecute according to the law and have the backs of law enforcement and we have to make sure that we're a country of law and order. but i want to go back to china and i did think we spent enough time on that. we have to look at what government is doing to hurt zuckerberg too. you have a company, u.s. antibiotics that produc produces sill leeanne and the number one ant -- amoxicillin, the number one antibiotic we need and we only get it from china. we need to focus on companies that produce in america and supporting those companies that produce in america. not companies that are helping china. stuart: governor, we'll talk foreign policy later. ilia. ilia: thank you, stuart. staying on topic of crime because it affects all of us. governor burgum, for the first time ever, a univision poll found mass shootings and gun safely it run of the most important issues for latino voters. mental health concerns are not unique to the united states but gun violence is. what is your specific plan to curb gun violence? >> well, first we need to know the liberal left seems to be complete bent on prosecuting and gun owners and every solution they have to this is southern rights of american and that's going to solve the problem and all these cities that we're talking about that showed the videos of tonight, they have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. we know that that's not what's working but we have to get back to the core issues about the family, we have to get back to behavioral health and mental health. we've got to get back to enforcing the laws. these people talked about and we've done in north dakota where we've got the goal and we're on the track to be the most mel military-friendly state in the nation and military support of what we're doing in law enforcement and the moral is down because we've been defunding the police because they've been attacked in the press and police have become the bad guys and all these jobs of middle america. why be a police department if people don't respect them. every time i see a policeman i say thank you and so does everybody else in my family and most of the people in our state and they know we have to reason the people out there defending us every single day. >> can i answer a question on mass shootings. ilia: mr. ramaswamy, according to customs and border protection, about 90% of fentanyl is seized at official border crossings and 57% of the smugglers are u.s. citizens. how would you stop fentanyl brought into the country mostly by u.s. citizens through ports of industry? >> there's two sides to this and we voter to be very honest about it. one is we do have to seal that southern border. building the wall is not enough. they're building cartel-financed tunnels underneath that wall. semi-trucks can drive through them. we have to use our own military to seal the swiss cheese of a southern border but be honest. there's a demand side problem in this country too. a mental health epidemic and i met family in iowa, two parents, cathy and derrick, they lost their son sebastian, 17 years old. he bought percocet on snap chat and then died. why did he die? it was laced with fentanyl. that is closer to bio-terrorism, not a drug overdose. that's poisoning so it is our job to make sure that never happens. but it's also our job to make sure that 17 year-olds don't turn to percocet via snap chat and bring back mental healthcare and faith based approaches that restore purposes and meaning in the next generation of americans and many are getting through social media and this isn't a republican point or a democrat point. but if you're 16 years old or under, you should not be using any addictive social media product, period. this is something that we can both agree on and we can revive both the mental health of this country while stopping the fentanyl epidemic that will kill more people this year than who died on 9/11 and i refuse to be a passive bystander sitting in the white house like the hollowed out husk of the current president we have and we'll address this problem and stand for the american children. >> that is why -- everything he said i agree with. that's is why as commander in chief, i'm going to use the u.s. military to go after the mexican drug cartels and they're killing our people. in florida, we had an infant, 18 monarchies, parents rented an -- 18 months and arndts rented an aiairbnb and the people using it before used drugs and toddler was crawling on the carpet and ingested fentanyl residue and died. are we just going to sit here and let this carnage happen in our country? i'm not going to do that on day one, this is a day one issue for me as president. we'll declare it a national emergency and build the wall and do remain in mexico but those mexican drug cartels are going to be treated like the foreign terrorist organizations that they are. dana: vice president pence -- we're going to mover on. vice president pence. just last month -- vice president pence, you said if elected you'd repeal all obama mandates and made that same promise in 2016 and at that time, trump pence had congressional moten jordyties for the -- majorities for the first two years and didn't deliver on the promise. obama care right now, it is more popular than ever. why should americans trust you if you become president to fix that or is obama care here to stay? >> well, first let me speak to the mass shootings issue and i'll answer that question, it's a important one, dana. i'm someone that believes a justice delay second-degree jus dis-deny -- delayed and justice denied and father of three and grandfather of three beautiful little girls, i'm sick and tired of the mass shootings happening in the i don't understand of america and if i'm president of the united states, i'm going to go to the congress of the united states and we're going to pass a federal expedited death penalty for anyone involved in a mass shooting so they will meet their fate in months, not years. it is unconscionable that the parkland shooter, ron, spends the rest of his life behind bars in florida. that's not justice. we have to meet out justice and send a message to the would be killererers that you are not gog to live out your days behind bars. you're going to meet justice in the system. dana: i appreciate that but does that mean obama care is here to stay? [ applause ]. >> thank you for reiterating the question because i'd love to answer it. look, it's one of the choices here. my former running mate, donald trump, actually has a plan to start to consolidate more power in washington dc, consolidate more power in the executive branch. when i'm president of the united states, it's my intention to make the federal government smaller by returning to the states those resources and programs that are rightfully theirs urn the tenth amount of the constitution. amendment of the constitution. that means all obama care funding, all housing funding, all hhs funding, all of it goes back to the states. we'll shut down the federal department of education. we'll allow states to innovate. we're going to revive federalism in america and states are going to help bring america back. dana: not sure that answered the statement. stuart: may i remind everyone to stay within the time frame to get as many questions as possible. governor desantis, over 26 million americans don't have insurance coverage. governor desantis, 2.5 million of them are in your state. that's worse than the national average. can americans trust you on this? >> i think this is a symptom of overall economic decline. everything has gotten more expensive and insurance rates going through the roof. people going to get groceries and spoke with a woman in iowa and said for the first time in my life i'm having to take things out of my grocery cart when i get to the check out line because the total goes up so quickly. this is very real and people are hurt out there so we've got to address the underlying problem with bidenomics, the overspending, taking all biden's rules and regulations and i'm going to throw them in the trash can on day one. don't worry about that and open up all of the energy and we'll be energy-dominant in the country that will lower your gas price and we need to do with healthcare is recognize our healthcare is putting patients at the back of the bus. we have big pharma, big insurance, and big government, and we need to tackle that and have more power for the people and the doctor/patient relationship. stuart: governor, why is your record in florida worse than the national average? >> our state is a dynamic state and there's a lot of folks that come, of course we've had a population boom. we also don't have a lot of welfare benefits in florida. we say this is a field of dreams. you can do well in this state but we're not going to be like california and have massive numbers of people on government programs without work requirements. we believe you work, and you got to do that so that goes for all the welfare benefits and what that's done, stuart, our unemployment rate is the lowest amongst any big strait. we have the highest gdp growth of any big state and cnbc, no fan of mine, rank florida the no. 1 economy in america. ilia: on the topic of healthcare, governor haley, healthcare is the leading cause of bankruptcy for american families acting for two-thirds of all personal bankruptcies. as president, how do you protect americans who get sick from financial ruin? >> first of all, how can we be the best country-specific friendsatfoxnews.com in the world and have the -- country e world and have the most expensive healthcare. when we got the bill the insurance company in the hospital negotiated the actually for her without her having anything to do with it? when i'm president, we will break all of it from the insurance company to the hospitals to the doctor's offices to the pbms and pharmaceutical companies, we'll make it all transparent because when you do that, you'll realize that's what the problem is. second thing, deal with torrent law. doctors don't give you the ten tests because they want to but the 90% chance they'll get sued and competition back to healthcare. get rid of certificate of need systems and make sure they can compete. we have to put the patient in the driver seat. they've been in the backseat for way too long and once we give the patient the ability to decide their healthcare, deciding which man they want, that is when we will see magic happen but we're going to have to make every part of the industry open up and show us where they're warts are because they all have them and we need to fix it on behalf of the people. dana: governor burgum, do you have a better way in 30 seconds? >> yes, not talking about the real problem ever. talk about why we have the most expensive healthcare in the world. the federal government got involved the same way with evs and said we're going to subdecide a particular kind of software back in 2008 under obama and said, hey, we're going to do this and make everyone more productive. all of you watching have been to a doctor's office when the doctor has his back to you and hands on a keyboard and the only industry in the world that's ever absorbed $1 trillion of it and became less productive and less patients per day was u.s. healthcare and subsidizing a technology and not improving healthcare but picking oners and loser and every time the federal government is involved with higher education, healthcare or auto industry, things get more expensive and less competitive. dana: that was a great transition and we're moving on. the future of education in america. what's the government's role in finding a way forward? 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[applause] [inaudible conversations] >> moderator: governor desantis, i have a question for you. governor desantis, i have -- >> you guys having fun -- [inaudible] [laughter] >> -- develop skills which in some instances could be apply for their personal benefit. you have said slaves developed skills in spite of slavery, not because of it, but many are still hurt. for descendants of slaves, this is personal. what is your message to them? >> first of all, that's a hoax that was person rate -- perpetrated by kamala harris. second of all, that was written by descendants of slaves. with we need to stop playing these games. here's the deal, our country's education system is in decline because it's focused on indoctrination, denying parents' rights. florida represents the revival of education. we're ranked number one in the nation by u.s. news and world or report. my wife and i, this is personal to us. we didn't just talk about universal school choice, we enacted it. we didn't just talk about parents' bill of rights, we enacted the parents' bill of rights. we now have american civics and the constitution in our schools in a really big way just like president reagan asked for in his farewell address back in 1989. florida is showing how it's done. we're standing with parents, and our kids are benefiting. [cheers and applause] >> moderator: you opposed -- [inaudible] what is your message for governor desantis? >> there is not, there is not a redeeming quality in slavery. he and kamala should have just taken the one sentence out. america has suffered because of slavery, but we've overcome that. we are the greatest nation on earth because we faced our demons in the mirror and made a session. so often -- a decision. so often we think that all the issues, you talk about crime and education and health care, we always think that those issues go back to slavery. here's the challenge though: black families survived slavery. we survived poll taxes and literacy tests. we survived discrimination being woven into the laws of our country. what was hard to survive was johnson's great society where they decided -- [applause] to put money, where they decided to take the black father out of the household to get a check in the mail. and you can now measure that in unemployment, in crime, in devastation. if you want to restore hope, you've got to restore the family, restore capitalism and put americans back at work together as one american family. our nation continues to go in the right direction it's why i can say i have been discriminated against, but america is not a racist country. never, ever doubt who we are. [cheers and applause] we are the greatest country on god's green earth and, frankly, the city on the hill needs a brand new leader. and i'm asking for your vote. >> moderator: i'm going to have a question for you, mr. ramaswamy. over 18,000 public schools nationwide have the ability to change their identity without parental notification. governor christie told stuart last week that he would pass a federal law to protect parental rights. would you try to do the same? >> transgenderrism, especially in kids, is a mental health disorder. we have to acknowledge the truth of that for what it is. [applause] i met two young women -- >> moderator: specifically on parental rights in school. >> parents have the right to know. and you know what the hypocrisy of this, even new hampshire failed to get past a piece of legislation here. the very people that say this increases the risk of suicide are also the ones saying parents don't have the right to know about that increased risk of suicide. and i'm sorry, it is not come compassionate to affirm a kid's confusion. that is cruelty. i met crowe -- clowe chloe and katie this their 20s now regret getting double mastectomy and a hysterectomy. one of them will never have children. and the fact that we allowed that to happen in this country is barbaric. so i will ban -- >> moderator: okay, i want to know specifically, would you try to pass a federal law that says parents should have that right? >> we are going to require -- [inaudible] yes. >> moderator: in your state you do not have a law that says parents can't be notifieded. but you want to be president. would you pass a federal law to say parents have that right? >> i think this is a states issue. all night long we've been talking about how it's broken this in washington, and i respect all of the people on the stage here for their hundred-plus years of public service, thank you. but the reason why we're not talking about education or health care or safety being a problem in north dakota is because we have a business leader. i've got more experience as a business leader than i think this whole group combined. i know i've created more jobs than everybody else else on stage that have real meaning. so as a businessed leader, you treat the taxpayer like a customer. in in instead of fighting with the teacher unions, we created a coordinating council. >> moderator: but you do understand that this is an issue that many people in america really are concerned about, worried about, about parents is and notifiation in schools. >> yes. and that's why we have platforms many in innovation. there are certain things the federal government is supposed to do. it's not the department of education. we've got to move if it back to states. do what we did in north dakota. instead of here's an old school an old way with the teachers union and the kids are trapped, we made every school in north dakota an innovation school. every school got out from under the are red e tape, and the things that teach the values that a we're trying to get like the 4-h -- expwhrm okay, we're going to move on. >> north dakota is at the top of the median s.a.t. scores in the country right now. [applause] >> moderator: vice president pence, the department of homeland security warns that violence against lgbtq+ people is rising and intensifying. members of that community are nine times more likely to be victims of violent hate crimes. as president, how would you protect this community from violent attacks and discrimination? >> well, as president of the united states, i'll stand up for the safety and the civil liberties of every american. from every background. and i want the american people to know that. but i want to answer the question as well, dana, that you just asked because by way of full diss closure, chris, you mentioned the president's situation, my wife isn't a member of the teachers union, but i've got to admit i've been sleeping with a teacher for 38 years -- [laughter] and full disclosure: look, education is a state and local function. the state of indiana had one of the very first school choice programs in the country, and when i was governor of the state of indiana, we doubled that. and as to your question, dana, let's be very, very clear. when the lin mar community schools in iowa had a policy where you could, you had to have a permission if slip from your parents to get a tylenol, but you could get a gender transition plan without notifying your parents, i weighed in with a foundation. that's not bad policy, that's crazy. we're going to stand up for the rights of parent, and we're going to -- parents, and we're going to pass a federal ban on transgender chemical or surgical surgery anywhere in the country. we've got to protect our kids if this radical gender ideology agenda, and we've got to empower parents at the state level with the ability to choose where their kids go to school whether it's public, private, parochial or home school. you empower parents, and our schools will straighten up and reflect our values and focus on the basics faster than you could possibly imagine. [applause] >> moderator: next subject -- >> i just say one thing? [inaudible conversations] >> moderator: china is investing -- if you talk over everybody, we lose time. cu china is investing heavily in their tech companies. $280 billion every year on semiconductor research and development. that is one chips act per year with. governor desantis, you say companies like google and meta have too much power. doesn't going after them give china an edge? >> no. i think you look at how our societies developed, they have huge amount of power over our society. they've cracked down on free speech. we're not saying you don't want them to do business, but you want with it to be a free business, and right now their monopolies. this issue of china, i think, is fundamental. we have subcontracted out so much of our national needs to the ccp. we rely on them for a whole host of issues. we need to reshore, and we need to decouple all those important industries. we need to get that back in the united states. they are our top geopolitical adversary by a country mile. xi jinping's got huge ambitions not only in the asian-pacific, but as you mentioned earlier, in our region. ultimately, we've got to beat them on the economy. so that's what we'll do as president of the united states. >> moderator: governor christie, 22% of american workers fear hair jobs will be lost to -- their jobs will be lost to a robot. and you said in the past the free market is the way to go. would you retrain workers who lose a job to artificial intelligence and to do what? >> well, look, what i think artificial intelligence offers us is an extraordinary opportunity to expand well beyond the productivity that we have now and to have americans be able to be involved in that revolution, dana. you know, each time we have shown incredible innovation and progress in this country, what we've done with it is to expand all kinds of new even unthought of opportunities for folks. yes, we have to do retraining for folks who lose some of their jobs, and we should be doing that. we should have more training both at the county college level and the local level for people to be able to access it. so, yes, i would be in favor of that. but this is a much bigger issue than that. we can't be afraid of innovation. america has been the great innovator of this world over the last 250 # years, a technological innovate iser and a free come and governmental innovator, and that's why america has to continue to stand strong in the world, pro-innovation, pro-progress. as president of the united states, what i will do is to make sure that every innovator in this country gets the government the hell off its back and out of its pocket so that it can innovate and bring great new inventions to our country that will make everybody's lives better. [applause] >> moderator: mr. ramaswamy, tiktok is banned on government-issued devices because of its ties to the chinese government. yet you joined tiktok after dinner with boxer and influencer jim paul. should the commander in chief be so easily persuade by an influencer? >> so the answer is i have a radical idea for the republican party. we need to win elections. and part of how we win elections and reaching the next generation of young americans where they are. is so when i get into office, i've been very clear, kids under the age of 16 should not be using addictive social media. if we're only going to ever get to declaring independence from china, which i favor, if we actually win. so while the democrats are running rampant reaching the next generation 3 to 11, there's exactly one person in the republican party which talks a big game about reaching young people, and that's me. i'm the new guy here, and so i know i have toen your trust. what do you see? you see a young man who's in a bit of a hurry, maybe a little ambitious, bit of a know it all a, it seems, at times. no, i don't know it all. i will listen. i will have the best people, the best and brightest in this country, whatever age they are, advising me. we will be probably many of the people on this stage included. that's how i built my companies. i want to be challenged. i want people who disagree with me. that's what makes america great, because they're not a -- [inaudible conversations] we're founded on the pursuit of perfection. >> >> [inaudible] >> and that is why we'll end it once we win this election -- >> i have to jump in here, i'm sorry, there's one with person on this -- >> this is infuriating because tiktok is one of the most dangerous social media assets we could have -- >> yes, it is. >> honestly, every time i hear you, i feel a little bit dumber for what you say, because i can't believe -- >> >> [inaudible] >> -- tiktok situation. what they're doing is 150 million people are on tiktok. that means they can get your contacts, they can get your financial information, they can get your e-mails -- >> let me just say, hurling -- this is important. this is very important for our party -- >> that's exactly what we're doing. >> i'm going to say it. >> -- [inaudible conversations] >> in china, not america. you're now wanting kids to get on this social media that's dangerous for all of us? you were in business with the chinese that gave hunter biden $5 million. we can't trust you. we can't trust you. we can't have tiktok -- [inaudible] [inaudible conversations] >> moderator: mr. ramaswamy, you have 15 seconds. [inaudible conversations] [applause] >> you have 15 seconds, mr. ramaswamy. >> thank you. i think we would be better served as a republican party if we're not sitting here hurling personal insults and actually having a legitimate -- [inaudible conversations] following reagan's 1 19th commandment in his honor, and the answer is that is what actually makes our -- [inaudible conversations] i believe in this -- [inaudible conversations] >> moderator: thank you. >> -- unless they have a legitimate disagreement, that's what i would say. >> stuart, can we get back to the question -- >> moderator: no, we cannot. governor desantis -- sir, we'll have to cut your mic, and i don't want to do that. i don't. governor desantis, experts say president putin has ordered assassinations across europe, cheated on arms control treaties with the u.s. and seeks to work with china to force our decline. president reagan believed that if you want to prevent a war, you better be prepared to fight one. today the republican party is at odds over aid to ukraine. the price tag so far is $76 billion. but is it in do our interest to degrade russia's military for less than 5% of what we pay annually on defense especially when there are no u.s. soldiers in the fight in. >> it's in our interest to end this war, and that's what i will do as president. we are not going to have a blank check, we will not have u.s. troops. we're going to make the europeans do what they need to do. but they've sent money to to pay bureaucrats' pensions and salaries and funding small businesses halfway around the world. meanwhile, our own country is being invaded. we don't even have control of our own territory. we have got to defend the american people before we even worry about all these other things. and i watch these guys in washington, d.c -- [applause] and they don't care about the american people. they don't care about the fentanyl deaths. that they don't care about the communities being overrun because of this border. they don't care about the mexican drug cartels. so as commander in chief, i will defend this country's sovereignty. [cheers and applause] >> but it's not a territorial dispute. it's never been a territorial dispute. >> and 90% of the resources that we send over to ukraine is guaranteed, it's a loan. it is not -- 90% of the money that we send over there is loan. we can talk about this, but at the end of the day, 90% of the money that we send over there is actually -- >> we're not going to get it back. >> it's actually not paid by ukraine, it's paid by our nato -- >> it's a good topic for debate. >> i will say let's debate the fact that our national vital interest is in degrading the russian military. the by degrading the russian military, we actually keep our homeland safer, we keep our troops at home, and and we all understand article v of nato, w- >> [inaudible] >> i thought you said something about waiting your turn to talk a.9 the end of the day, i'll be happy to debate. >> i'll respond. >> i'll look forward to this one. when you think about the fact that you want to keep american troops at home, the attack on nato territory would bring us and our troops in. by degrading the russian military, we reduce if not eliminate an attack -- >> if i may finish that exchange, we have to level with the american people on this issue. the reality is -- >> we are leveling -- >> just because putin's an evil dictator does not mean that ukraine is good. this is a country that has banned 11 -- >> a win for russia is a win for i china that. a win for russia -- >> excuse me. >> i forgot, you like china -- >> you'll have your chance in just a moment. the hurling personal insults isn't helping. china's the real enemy, and we're driving russia further into china's arms. we need a reasonable peace plan to end this. especially, this is a country whose president just last week -- >> vivek, if you let putin have ukraine, that's a green light to china to take taiwan. >> moderator: the time is up. >> peace comes through strength. >> moderator: governor christie -- [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> moderator: governor christie, president -- governor christie, president biden's first the two years have brought china, russia and iran closer together. are we focused too much on ukraine and not enough on this threat from the new world order? >> no, they're all connected, stuart. they're all connected. the chinese are e paying for the russian war in ukraine. the iranians are supplying more sophisticated weapons and so are the north koreans now as well with the encouragement of the can chinese. the naivete on this stage from some of these folks is extraordinary. look, i understand people want to go and talk to putin. guess what? so did george w. bush. so did barack obama. so did donald trump. and so did joe biden when he said a small invasion wouldn't be so bad. every one of them has been wrong. and the fact of the matter is we need to say right now that the chinese-russian alliance is something we have to fight against, ask we are not going to solve it -- and we are not going to solve it by going over and cuddling up to vladimir putin. look, donald trump said vladimir putin was brill with i can't -- brilliant and a great leader. this is the person who is murdering people in his own country and now not having enough blood, he's now going to ukraine to murder innocent civilians and kidnap 20,000 children. and let me tell you, if you think that's where it's going to stop, if we give him any of ukraine, next will be poland. >> right. >> this is a guy who said -- wait one sec. this is a guy who in 1991 said that was the darkest moment in world history when the soviet union fell. listen, everybody, he wants to put the old band back together, and only america can stop it, and when i'm president, we will -- [applause] >> moderator: i want to get to governor burgum, he hasn't had a chance. at least you have experience in this question, and we need to talk about america's farmers because there is a foreign policy connection here. the u.s. and china are in this fierce competition that's hurting american businesses, and there is blowback against american farmers because china targets them in retaliation. how would you as president protect american farmers and rancherses from that kind of retaliation from a foreign government like china. >> well, first of all, we've got the best farmers and ranchers in the world right here in america. if they have a level playing field, they can outcompete anyone in the world. this is part of the larger issue. we're many a cold war with china. the biden administration won't admit that. we're also in an economic world through what we're doing with agriculture and energy and also relative to cyber war. we get attacked every day. in north dakota, every state, every school district, our tribes all being attack by either china, russia, iran or north korea. and now we've got a biden administration whose whole policy is appease. they're making the world less safe. $6 billion they a traded for 5 people, they just now set a price on anyone's head who is a tourist from america, a student from america, for a kidnapping. if you want more kidnapping, put a price on it. and they're also helping iran get to have more, closer to nuclear weapons which pushes all of the middle east closer to china and russia. the whole thing is absurd. and then, of course, we're going to give ukraine to russia and taiwan to china and think that's a foreign policy? that will make our nation less successful, make us more poor, and at the core of all that is energy policy because china imports 10 million barrels of oil a day. they're the largest importer in the world, and we've had four cabinet members from the biden administration this summer, and none of them talked about u.s. energy? the first one to go to each of those countries was kerry to talk about the polyof the climate policy which -- folly of the climate policy which is making the world less stable and empowering dictators. we need to worry about the biden climate policies that are the existential threat to america's future. >> moderator: thank you. [applause] >> moderator: governor haley, mexico's president supports sending u.s. military into the country calls it, quote, scoundrels. mexico is the united states' important trade partner in border security. you say you will send special operations to attack the cartels in mexico. so this means boots on the ground, drone strikes? >> it means special operations. that's how we deal with terrorists. what you need to do is understand mexico's not being a good partner if we lost 75,000 americans last year: mexico's not being a good partner if they're letting the cartels get away with what they're getting away with. we will send in our special operations, and we will take out the cartels, we'll take out their operations, we'll take out thinking that's doing it. but we're going to go after china because china is the one sending the fentanyl in the first place. and we will end all normal trade relations until china stops sending fentanyl. and then we'll do the special operations and get it from both sides. this is where president trump went wrong. he focused on trade with china. he didn't focus on the fact that they were buying up our farmland. he didn't focus on the fact that they were killing americans. he didn't focus on the fact that they were stealing $600 billion in inte e lek chill property, cha they put a concern that they put a spy base off our shores in cuba. we've got all these little surveillance cells. need to start focusing on what keeps americans safe. that hasn't happened in a long time. as your president, i will make sure every american is safe, and we'll do whatever it takes to make that happen. [applause] >> moderator: all right. i want to get to senator scott. [applause] you're all auditioning for the job as president of the united states. you want to earn these votes. but the world's problems land in the oval office. during the presidential debates in the year 2000, neither al for nor if george w. bush -- al gore nor george w. bush was asked about al-qaeda. one year later, al-qaeda's attack on september 11th claimed nearly 3,000 lives. and the farther we get from september 11th, the closer we are to september 10th. senator scott, you have no executive branch experience. what has prepare if you to protect the nation -- prepared you to protect the nation from a major manmade national security crisis? >> one of the things i've had the good fortune of doing is serving on committees in the united states senate like the senate armed services committee. i'm on the senate foreign relations committee also on the finance committee and the banking committee. talk about addressing the issue of fentanyl. i've written the legislation, passed it through the banking committee expect senate that would freeze the assets and sanction the accounts of the mexican cartels. there are weapons that we have within the arsenal that i was able to get passed 23-0 in the polarizing senate as it is. i've also understood without question the fact that if you look at the details before 9/11, there was information that intelligence that was available that suggested an attack was coming. having the right intelligence partners with us is key to making sure that we prevent the next 9/11 from ever happening. having that experience over the last ten years is really important in getting the job done. >> moderator: 30 seconds to you, mr. pence? >> well, i think you asked a question about executive experience, and i think it's vitally important. i stand before you as a candidate president because i think this country's in a lot of trouble. you hear the fire on the stage tonight. you hear the fire in all of our voices, and it's because joe biden has weakened the this country at home and abroad with. this is a time for those of us that have the exexperience -- experience, the tested experience and the commitment to the conservative agenda that ronald reagan brought forward in this party of a strong national defense standing with our allies, standing up to our enemies, supporting limited government and traditional values need to step forward finish. >> moderator: understood. >> frankly, our party does face a time for choosing as they said at the top of this debate, whether we're going to stand on the conservative agenda that ronald reagan pour or whether we're going to follow the -- >> moderator: and now it is time for -- >> -- the most experienced, most qualified and most consistent conservative in this field, and i'm a ready to lead america at home and abroad on day one. >> moderator: time for a break. >> moderator: we're going to build a coalition that lasted decades. 9 can any of these candidates do the same? 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>> well, look, i think that we do have to run through the courts and get through that administrative state to make sure we're using the natural resources here at home. but here's the other thing that we can do -- >> moderator: it takes forever, mr. ramaswamy. >> and it addresses the national can debt as well as brings down prices, put people back to work. we are using taxpayer money to pay people more to stay at home than to go to work. that is wrong. that contributes to our supply chain crisis, it cribs to -- contributes to inflation. that's the easiest way to unlock this economy. and the other thing, we have to put the federal reserve back in its plaits. this is an agency that has gone rogue. so many january 2020 -- 2026 when i have the opportunity as your next commander in chief, we will have a new chairman in the federal are reserve who places the authority on dollar stability and most importantly send packing 75% of the administrative state. reduce the federal employee head count by 75. rescind 50% of unconstitutional federal regulations that are shackling businesses both large and small. i've offered a very clear, practical plan to do it. that's how we unleash the economy. that's how we revive the intreg integrity of a three-branch constitutional republic -- >> moderator: vice president pence, your response, please. [applause] >> i think one of the signature accomplishments of our administration was in just a few short years we achieved energy independence. we became a net exporter of energy for the first time in 75 years. [applause] but on day one, joe biden declared a war on energy which was no surprise, because when joe biden ran for president, he said he was going to enfossil fuels. and they've been working overtime to do that ever since. if i'm president of the united states, we're going to open up federal lands. we're going to unleash american energy. we're going to have an all of the above energy strategy. and i have a plan that actually would not only reclaim energy independence, but this 2006 america -- in 2006 america lost our position as the leading energy producer on earth. i believe in the next ten years with the right policies and experienced leadership in the white house, we can reclaim our role as the leading energy producer on earth, and that'll grow the american economy for generations to come. [applause] >> moderator: governor haley, reaction to that, please -- >> only person that's leading an energy state, could i answer the energy question? >> moderator: no. governor haley. >> what i saw at the united missions is energy security is national security. we need a president that understands we have to partner with our producers and make sure that we have their backs. what you don't need is a president who is against energy independence. ron desantis is against fracking, he's against drilling -- >> that is are ridiculous. >> you did it. he always talks about what happens on day one. you better watch out, because what happens on day e two is when you're in trouble. day two in florida, you banned fracking -- >> that is not true. >> you did it on federal land, and you took grebe subsidies that you didn't need to take. >> moderator: governor desantis, off -- you can respond. >> we're going to choose midland over moscow, we're going to choose the marcellus over the mullahs, and we are going to lower your gas prices. we are to going to get that job done because it's important for our national security, it's important for jobs, and that's one of the best ways to drive down inflation. >> moderator: governor desantis -- >> [inaudible] [inaudible conversations] >> this is ridiculous. the state of florida, our voters enact ad a constitutional -- >> you banned it before they voted. >> no, it's not true -- >> you banned it before they voted, and -- >> she's just totally wrong. they voted it many -- >> check it. check it. >> onshore, we do do it in florida. we don't have as much as maybe west texas, but we do it. that was a constitutional a amendment. so that's just wrong. let's just get real here. my plan will get the job done -- >> before the voters even voted. the voters didn't even vote on fracking, and you banned practicing -- >> moderator: we are moving on - [inaudible conversations] excuse me, we cannot talk over each other. we must respect each other's time. my apologies for that. >> i'm ready, stu, let's do it. >> moderator: governor desantis, the biden administration is hell bent on student loan forgiveness, but you say colleges should be on the hook when graduates cannot pay their debt. how does that address the cost of -- how does in that -- the cost of college itself? >> because the colleges are going to have to make a decision, do we offer, do we expand the gender studies department knowing some of those graduates may not have great learning opportunities? no. they're going to focus on the things that really matter. they're going to make different choiceses and try to graduate people in four years. i also want to come back the known because -- 9/11 because i was just at the 9/11 memorial with my family. i ended up joining the military as a result of that. [applause] i'd been a blue collar kid, min minimum wage, i ended up getting through yale and harvard law school and somehow came out more conservative than when i went in, and that is not easy to do. i wanted to serve, and i'll never forget coming back on the plane from iraq, landing in coronado, california, north island and feeling that breeze off the pacific ocean and saying, you know what in i am lucky to have been born many america, and i think being able to serve -- and i'll be the first president elected since 1988 who's actually serve overseas in a war -- i think that's going to help me as commander in chief 40 know -- to know how you see these issues and understand there are real lives at stake for people that finish. >> moderator: we know that governor haley's husband is serving right now, and we thank him for that. senator scott, the national department has nearly doubled in your time in office. if this were a business, you'd probably all be fired in washington, but you're here tonight looking for a to to notion -- a to motion. i'd like you to tell governor haley why you should be promoted to ceo of the nation instead of her. >> certainly. one of the things i'd say and you look at our national debt of $33 trillion or, i would love to have an opportunity to have this country pass a balanced budget amendment. that would constrain the spending in washington in the same fashion that it does at every state in our nation, number one. number two, if you want to actually reduce our national debt, you have to grow our economy. in order to grow our economy, you need to create about 101 million jobs -- 10 million jobs to grow our economy at 5%. you can do that in three specific sectors. number one, the energy sect work r. we could create between 3-3.5 million jobs if if we unleashed all of our energy resources. america is the most, we're the rushest country if you combine coal, gases and oil. why not unleash all of our resources? number two, we've lost 100,000 factories, 100,000 factories in the last 25 years. if we we continue with my made in america plan, we could bring jobs back to america in a similar fashion that we did when i wrote the tax cuts and jobs act. we actually lowered the corporate tax from 35% to 2 #%, reshore ised or repate traited $1.7 trillion, we brought the unemployment rate for african-americans, hispanics and asians to the lowest level in the history of the country. >> moderator: governor haley -- >> and a -- [inaudible] lower for women. >> moderator: governor haley, you think you would deserve the promotion over him. >> look, i appreciate tim. we've known each other a long time. but he's been there 12 years, and he hasn't done any of that. they've only gotten four budget- [inaudible conversations] he's increased the national debt, he vote for the spending. >> you voted for -- you actually asked for a gas tax -- [inaudible conversations] >> -- 12 years, where have you been? where have you been, tim? 12 years. we've waited, and nothing has happened. >> here's what you've done. >> >> here's the thing that i just find interesting -- >> ron, let me finish. >> all these guys -- and i appreciate a lot of the things they're saying. i'm the only one up here who's gotten in the big fights and has delivered big victories for the people of florida. [cheers and applause] and that's what it's all about. you can always talk, but when it gets hot in there, when they're shooting arrows at you, are you going to stand up for parents' rights, keep the state free? in the state of florida, because of our success, the democratic party lies in ruins. we have won the big fights. we have turned our state into a republican state. people respond to leadership. i've done it while others have talked about it. [inaudible conversations] >> can i answer the question -- >> if i may just briefly interject here -- >> -- my 30 seconds. >> zero-based budgeting. >> tax cuts -- >> start with zero as the baseline for the budget and then see what's actually necessary. there isn't a blue state or a red state in this union that doesn't. the federal government doesn't do it. but successful companies, including the ones that i've built as a ceo -- >> moderator: i think that governor burgum would disagree with you. governor burgum runs a state. yes, go ahead. >> -- the only guy to have energy questions, you don't ask anything, but i'm just going to say right now when you say nobody else has done it, the energy plans that have all been announced by these other folks on state, we're already doing it in north dakota. we've got troops down at the border flying helicopter missions from sand day owe -- san diego to the gulf coast trying to stop national national invasions and the mass casualties in our state. and on the energy policy, we're already doing it. north dakota was leading the charge. we won the battle to get the biden administration was ignoring the law, he were the first administration since truman that wasn't holding the quarterly required lease sales, and we won that in federal course. we won that in federal court. we're fighting the biden administration on 20 fronts. to say that nobody's fighting the big fights, just look at the record of what a we're doing right now. energy, economy, national security, been talking about it since day one and now finally, good, we're having the conversation, but we've got the answer in north dakota. >> moderator: governor burgum, let's talk big government. this question's for you. big government keeps getting bigger. one-fifth of all new jobs this year have been created by the government. governor burgum, you want to shrink the size of government, but it has been a century since any president has been done that. why would you be any different? >> well, because we've done it in north dakota. when i took office, we shrunk the state budget general fun by 27% in the first four months i was in office, and we have all the trains running on time. why? because you had a business leader that was actually there. inside of every government job, there's 1 to- 10-20% of mind-numbing, soul-sucking work that even the employees don't want to do. 20% after 2 million civilian employees, by the way, we've got 10 million jobs open. they could be generating taxes instead of being paid by taxes. this is totally possible to do if you have somebody that understands. everything we had to do was to be better, fast ther and cheaper the next day. that's what we can do in government, that's what we're doing in north dakota. >> moderator: all right. governor desantis -- [applause] i want to ask you about something that i think is on a lot of republicans' minds. this election could come down to less than 50,000 votes in three states. abortion with was on the ballot in six states in 2022. republicans lost all of them. next year abortion will likely be on the ballot in arizona. that is a must-win state. governor desantis, how are you going to win other independent, pro-choice voters this arizona? >> same way we did in florida. we won the greatest republican victory in a governor's race in the history of the state, over # 11.5 million votes. we were winning places like miami-dade county, palm beach that nobody thought was possible because we were leading with purpose and conviction. i reject this idea that from pro-liferrers are to blame for midterm defeats. i think there's other reasons for that. the former president, you know, he's missing in action tonight. he's had a lot to say about that. herb be here explaining -- he should be here explaining his comments to try to say that pro-life protections are somehow a terrible thing. i want him to look into the eyes and tell people who have been fighting this fight for a long time. i was at, my wife and i earlier today to were at the grave if site of president and mrs. reagan, and i noticed that there was a quote where it says every single person has purpose and worth. we're better off when everybody counts. and i think we should stand for what we believe in. i think we should hold the democrats accountable for their extremism, supporting abortion all the way up million the moment of birth. -- until the moment of birth. that is infanticide, and that is wrong. >> moderator: let me ask governor christie -- >> yes, i will. thank you. >> moderator: governor christie, do you think republicans can do that in rz if this -- in arizona if this referendum is on the ballot there? >> yeah, because i did it in new jersey, dana. >> moderator: then why are all these other states losing? >> they're not leading the way it should be with led. look, i was the governor of the only blue state that's represented up here. this is where the fight is really tough for republicans, and those are the states that we're going to have to try to win if we're going to win the white house back. and what we did was 14 times, dana, in 8 years i vetoed planned parenthood funding. 14 times. no one else gets it that much. the democrats kept sending it to me, and i kept saying no. i also believe in states' rights, and i think we fought hard against roe v. wade for decades to say that states should make these decision. what you need is a leader who can talk to people and make them understand that if you're pro-life, you have to be pro-life for the entire life not just the nine months in the womb. and we talked a lot about fentanyl tonight, and we haven't spoken one moment about treatment. but we need to make sure for the drug-addicted 16-year-old on the floor of the county lockup, her life is precious too. and we need to be providing treatment to cure this disease that it is. if you're pro-life, you've got to be pro-life for the entire life. we start talking like that, they're going to do what i did in a blue state which is get reelected with 61% of the vote and won 70 of independents and 51% of latinos because i told them the truth from my heart. >> moderator: thank you. >> moderator: vice president pence -- [applause] the latest univision poll found that 73% of latino voters think the republican party doesn't care about or is being hostile toward them. the hispanic community. only governor desantis has translated his campaign into spanish. how would you talk to latino votersesome. >> well, i promise you that we're going to continue to build bridges to every community in this country. and i'm incredibly proud of that tax cut and and tax reform bill. i worked on capitol hill to help get that bill passed into law, the largest tax cut in american history. we saw literally the lowest unemployment ever recorded for hispanic-americans, the lowest unemployment ever recorded for african-americans, 50-year low for women. so i think the president of the united states needs to be a champion for the american dream for every american. it begins with the unborn. and the aged and the infirm. and it begins with every ethnic group in this country. and i promise you if i'm president of the united states, i'll be a champion, i'll be a champion for the american dream for hispanic-americans and for every american so help me god. >> moderator: senator scott, your reaction? >> yes. there's no doubt that if you lead by example, it's the best way to get the job done. if you look at my office in the senate, my chief of staff is the only hispanic female chief of staff in the senate. i hired her because she was the best, highest qualifieded person we have. what we need are leaders who lead by example. and if i will simply say i would love to finish my conversation with nikki as it relates to the job that needs to get done. nikki offered a 10% -- 10-cent gas tax increase in south carolina. talk about someone who has never seen a federal dollar she doesn't like. ten cents on the gallon in south carolina as the u.n. ambassador, you literally -- >> bring it, tim -- [laughter] >> -- spent $50,000 on curtains and a $15 is million subsidized location. next -- >> you got bad information. first of all, i fought the gas tax in south carolina multiple times against -- >> just go to youtube d. >> -- against the establishment. and you know want to know what that 10 cents was the establishment companies wanted me to do it so much that i said the only way is if you will give us three -- excuse me. if you willive -- >> nikki haley on youtube. >> if you will give me three times the deduction in income tax, then i will -- >> so you said, yes. >> secondly, secondly, on the 50 million -- >> here is the nice part -- >> secondly, on the curtains, obama bought those curtains -- >> did you send them back? >> it's the state department. did you send them back? you're the one that works this congress. you get it done. ooh i've been there before i even show up at the residence. you are scrapping. you are scrapping -- [inaudible conversations] you know i fought that -- >> here's the fact -- >> i cut -- i load up on -- [inaudible conversations] >> moderator: -- not go ahead like this. in fact, we're about to take a commercial break. we'll have is more of the second republican debate live from the reagan presidential library in just a few moments. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're not writers, but we help you shape your financial story. ♪ we're not an airline, but our network connects global businesses across nearly 160 markets. ♪ we're not a startup, but our innovation labs use new technologies to help keep your information secure. ♪ we're not architects, but we help build stronger communities. ♪ we're not just any bank. we are citi. ♪ okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition for strength and energy. yay - woo hoo! ensure, with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients for immune health. and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein. 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