to? who has a family of high ranking government officials receiving money, car and luxury items from a foreign government? you might have said senator menendez. you'd be right. hunter biden would also receive those same things. mr. turley, in your experience, is it a concerning that a public official like joe biden is involved with the cefc china energy company with ties to ccp and chairman yi who was later detined by china for fraud? >> certainly is a concern that some of these individuals have been either accused or has been convicted of fraud including one by the united states government. the question is whether that conduct extended to the vice president or the president today and whether that is part of a continue you'll of conduct. >> when you see a pattern of problems, particularly in corruption, doesn't that pattern continue? a cover up. do you agree with that statement? >> i do. we call it pattern ed. that's what we look for when doing investigations to see what is continuing in that regard. >> so if you started prior as a vice president, we could continue through this as a private citizen, you'd see it also as a president? those are aspects you'd follow-through? >> absolutely. >> for all three of you. the other side has said you've given no information. isn't i true we should be looking to you for establishment? i'm not an attorney. shouldn't we be utilizing your expertise to get that information to make sure it's valid? mr. turley, would you agree with that? >> agree. my testimony tried to lay out the baseline for an inquiry. this is a beginning of this inquiry. >> mrs. connor? >> my testimony was to aid in understanding what the whistle-blowers have brought forward. >> mr. dubinsky? >> my testimony is getting to the truth. >> this is perfectly set up. we wanted the very basis of this and we wanted a slow, methodical, make sure it's done appropriately. it's overwhelms me when we see the rhetoric that comes out of the other side and the show that we just saw. that belongs on "saturday night live." mr. chairman, i yield back. >> thank you. >> unanimous consent motion. request, rather. i would like to enter six different instances of the devin archer transcript -- >> it's been entered twice. if you want to enter it again, go ahead. >> there's six ones that he said all they discussed is the weather. >> look, mr. goldman, we'll enter in the whole transcript for the third time. >> thank you. >> without objection. the chair recognizes mrs. talib for michigan. >> i'd like to enter october 23, 2020 "wall street journal" article that states texts and e-mails provided to the journal by mr. bobulinski don't show hunter biden or james biden discussing a role for joe biden in the venture. >> without objection. so ordered. chair recognizes mrs. talib. >> i'd like to enter all of donald trump's indictments and enter those in to the report. >> without objection. chair recognizes mrs. talib. >> thanks, chair comer and our wonderful ranking member, raskin. it is great to be on this committee. when i first came in, i looked up on the wall and saw the incredible former chair of our house oversight committee, elijah cummings. reminded me of this first meeting here. i can tell you, it was incredibly powerful. i don't know, mr. turley, do you know what the subject matter of that hearing was in. >> i don't. >> it was around insulin. price gouging of insulin. the first witness was a mother of twins that had to ration her insulin between the two children. it was incredible. because at that moment i thought this is exactly the committee i want to be on here doing what is needed for the american people and fighting back against greed and a number of broken systems and processes that i think again leave many of our families behind. here we are though doing the bidding of a twice impeached indicted former president instead of working for the people of our country. mr. o'connor -- mrs. o'connor. 47,375. >> i don't know what number you're referring to. >> that's the number of accty duty reserve men and women in kentucky who is going to be forced to go without pay because of the shutdown. >> i should know that because? >> no -- it's because you have nothing to say about any of this. you're not a fact. you don't have any facts. you weren't there. mrs. o'connor, don't take it personally that you are here being used for somebody out there being indicted. this is not helping the american people. mr. gephardt, what does this say? >> one thing i'm learning is i need new glasses. that's the countdown to the shut down. >> what is it? a couple days here? >> two days and eight hours. >> so mr. dubinsky, you know who said the following? we have thousands that returned holiday presents because they needed cash. missed a mortgage payment, took out a short term loan and ran up credit card debt because they had no paycheck for the month. >> point of order, mr. chairman. >> state your point. >> and stop the clock for mrs. talib. >> thank you, mr. chair. >> all government employees will get paid at the end of the month. the democrat party forced the shutdown on the american economy -- >> reclaim -- >> forcing people to lose their job -- >> it's okay. >> it's not a point of order. >> that's doing to be not true on october 1. >> hold on, chair recognizes mrs. talib. >> we all know i was here. i was here in 2019 when the shutdown was there for 35 days. you know what? you know who said this? doreen greenwald. she said this is irresponsible 2018-19 republican shutdown from the previous administration. do you know she also went on to say -- this is important. this is what this committee should be used for. she went on to say they stood in line at food banks, pulled their children from child care, were unable to put gas in their cars and beg creditors for grace. this is not how the united states of america should treat its own employees. that is verbatim from an american employee. let's not lie to the american people. right now the department of agriculture will be forced to stop processing housing loans which provided over 675 million people -- 3, 431 families in rural north carolina. that's all going to stop. the department of ag would be forced to stop processing a loan in wisconsin about 181 million loans that are impacting rural wisconsin. small business administration, ya'll, would stop processing small business loans halting over 284 million and funding small businesses in alabama. that's just one state. the federal government shutdown has real consequences. fema funding would be impacted if the government shuts down. this is regard to the impact in florida specifically if the government shuts down. impact on the many humanitarian aid that goes to many homeowners that were impacted. >> without objection, so ordered. >> my district, 56,000. do you know what that is? that's the number of children that will lose their child care. state countrywide, 3.5 million children impacted. this is how many children, again, are caucus -- again, republicans, are literally just putting aside and saying no, we're going to do this instead. we're going to go and bring the campaigning, the ugly toxicity that our families don't need into this chamber instead of doing what we need to do, which is making sure we have a functional government to provide for our families. when it comes to our witnesses, you're a part of it. you came to this committee. they're over achievers when it comes to dysfunction. why stop at destroying child care? devastating public health, education, social safety nets in our country. miss o'connor, you're part of it now. you came here -- >> time last expired. >> president biden has sent over $110 billion to ukraine and wants to send more. his son failed to pay any taxes on the millions of dollars he received from ukrainian companies. many folks in east tennessee can't afford to buy their groceries let alone a home or an automobile. these decent people and americans all over the country still pay their taxes. the fact is if your name is biden, you don't have to play by the same rules. who will write the check that hunter biden didn't pay now? who is paying taxes on the $250,000 that china sent to president biden's delaware address? i'll tell you who. the hard-working americans that have to get up that don't come in to work at 10:00 and take two hours for lunch and walk out of here in their brooks brothers suit with their jacket over their shoulder claiming they worked hard. they know they didn't work hard. the people back home are working hard and paying their taxes. yet the biden family doesn't have to. this past july, two high level irs agents testified before our committee. they painted a very disturbing picture worse than the one of hunter biden's paintings, by the way, of misconduct and obstruction in the department of justice criminal investigation of hunter biden and the biden family dealings. they testified that hunter biden should have been charged with a tax felony, not a misdemeanor. hunter was saved by merrick garland. this paved the path for hunter biden to attempt to plead guilty for two misdemeanors. i've seen people in tennessee be charged with more for traffic violations. moreover, mr. garland's decision does not align with chapter 10 of the criminal tax manual. david weiss should have followed department policy and charged hunter biden with tax felonies. the department of justice should have ensured hunter paid his back taxes like any other person in this position. hard working tennesseans shouldn't have to subsidize the family's crime spree. i'd like to know if any of them paid their taxes. i yield my time to jim jordan. >> i thank the gentleman for yielding. mr. turley, i want to get back to the abuse of power model that we've seen in other administrations. you think may exist here with this administration. i want to look at the gentleman before me talking about the way the justice department ran the investigation into hunter biden. some of the things we learned from the whistle-blowers were they were prevented from taking certain investigative steps. they couldn't interview the adult grandchildren of the president. they couldn't execute a search warrant on a storage unit without first tipping off the defense counsel. in interviews they got to do, only a couple, they couldn't use the term "big guy" and couldn't look at political figure one, which is the big guy, joe biden. they couldn't investigate tax years 2014 and 2015 because they couldn't charge for that because they let the statute of limitations expire. isn't it an abuse of power when the biden justice department stops investigative steps that all potentially lead to joe biden? >> certainly can be if there's a linkage to the president. if you look back, article 2 of the nixon impeachment was an abuse of power provision that dealt with that type of nexus. article 1 of the trump impeachment dealt with that type of nexus. they just have to establish the linkages as you go forward in an inquiry to make an article of -- substantiate an article of impeachment. >> you said confirm, corrupt pedalling operation. what does that entail? strong words. you said the biden influence pedalling scheme was confirmed, corrupt, influence pedalling operation. >> it's in my view largely unavailable. people that have been critical of the investigations have acknowledged recently after the archer interview that this was an influence pedalling effort, whether it was an illusion or not is part of the task for the inquiry. it seems to me abundantly clear from these e-mails and statements and now sworn testimony that hunter biden and his associates were selling access to joe biden. the question is whether any of that effort resulted in decisions and changes being made by joe biden and also the degree to which he knew of it, directed it and encouraged it. that's all the subject of an inquiry that has to be determined. can it be disproven or proven, but that's what lays ahead of you. >> i yield back to the gentleman. thanks for yielding. >> chair tre cog nices mrs. porter from california. >> thank you very much, mr. comer. mr. dubinsky, do you believe this impeachment inquiry has merit? >> again, i'm not a legal scholar. i'm a forensic accountant. from what i've seen there's merit for the inquiry to look for other information. >> so yes, you believe the impeachment inquiry has merit. >> mrs. o'connor, do you believe this is impeachment inquiry is legitimate? >> i don't know enough about house rules and how things are supposed to work here. >> mr. turley, do you think the impeachment inquiry has merit or legitimate? >> i do. the house has passed the threshold for an inquiry. >> yes, a veteran of several impeachments said an impeachment without a floor vote by the congress would create a process completely devoid of any merit or legitimacy. mr. dubinsky, who said that? >> mrs. o'connor, who said this? >> no clue. >> mr. turley, who said this? >> i made an objection along those lines to the earlier decision from speaker pelosi to go forward without a house vote. i made the same objection today. the best practices in going forward is to do that. what i said in my testimony is that it's not required under the constitution -- >> correct. i agree with you. we're not talking about whether it's required legally. i'm just asking you, can you say again for the committee, do you know who made this statement and if so, who? >> i don't. i made an objection along those lines. >> okay. my time. this quote is a statement from statement now speaker kevin mccarthy. mr. dubinsky, do you know the date of the house floor vote on this impeachment inquiry? >> no, i don't think there was a house vote. >> miss o'connor, do you remember any house vote? >> i have not been following that. >> professor turley, was there a house vote on this impeachment inquiry? >> not that i know. >> so this house vote didn't happen. there's not been a house vote to move forward with this impeachment inquiry. we have not followed what the speaker himself, mr. mccarthy, has said is the process that we should be following so that an impeachment inquiry would have merit or legitimacy. which is something that i think all americans on both sides of the aisle should expect investigations or inquiries like this to have. so americans should be able to expect the things that we do in this body have merit or legitimacy. today by having this hearing, republicans have changed their tune. i think i know why speaker is mccarthy is going back on his conviction. his members are demanding an impeachment, but they're months and months of investigating our president have not revealed yet any evidence that he himself has committed crimes. but speaker mccarthy wants to keep his job. so he's set on delivering an impeachment inquiry whether or not there's any evidence and even if in his own words that impeachment inquiry would be devoid of merit or legitimacy. mr. dubinsky, i have one final question. what is the title of this hearing? >> there's not a legitimate basis yet for this hearing. no amount of noise on the other side of the aisle is going to change this. as speaker mccarthy said in his words, this impeachment inquiry is devoid of any merit or legitimacy. i just did it. at the very end of an extremely contentious houring, i found something that speaker mccarthy was correct about. i yield back. >> gentle lady yields back. and i believe -- >> point of -- i have a unanimous consent request. thank you. i request to submit to the record a "washington post" fact check that pointed out that the committee's memo fails to claim about shell companies. >> i have a point -- >> without objection. so ordered. mrs. talib. >> i want to submit for the record, if i may, article from augusta chronicle that says government shut down, georgia military service members will see no pay. >> without objection. chair recognizes mrs. boebert from colorado. >> thank you. joe biden had dinner with hunter and his business associates including a russian tech and energy oligarch who was married to the mayor of moscow at the time. hunter received 3.5 million in payouts from batterina. she was not sanctioned after the invasion of crimea. joe biden has maintained for years that he was not involved in his son's business dealings. yet we have proof that joe biden attended business dinners with his son while he was vice president of the united states of america. here you have an excerpt from devin archers transcribed interview on the screen, if we could get that up there. during his interview, he testified to the fact on multiple occasions then vice president joe biden attended functions with business associates of his and hunter biden. one such example is laid out on the screen for us. mr. archer is explaining here that in the spring of 2014, devin and hunter had dinner at cafe milano with several business associates. one of these attendees was yolina batterina. she was the richest woman in russia at the time. she was married to the former mayor of moscow as previously stated. interestingly on february 14, 2014, mrs. batterina wired hunter biden and devin archer 3.5 million. it is still uncertain what legitimate service hunter biden provided to mrs. batterina in exchange for this large sum of money, if any at all. further more, it's concerning how hunter biden and devin archer moved this money from bank account to bank account. it is also convenient that the u.s. government never placed mrs. batterina on their public sanctions list after russia innovated crimea. this billionaire continued to invade public sanctions list even after russia invaded ukraine. i want these facts to be clear to the american people. the billionaire continued to evade the public sanctions list after russia invaded ukraine. joe biden's attendance at this shows that joe biden's involvement in hunter biden's deals is more than the illusion of access. it was access. there were direct benefits leading to hunter and his business partners after joe's attendance at this cafe milano dinner. this play to play-type of engagement was selling direct access to joe biden and the office of the president of the united states. mr. chairman, i ask unanimous consent to enter in the record the third bank records men random produced by this committee on oversight and accountability on august 9, 2023. >> without objection. so ordered. >> mr. turley, as an expert on constitutional issues and impeachment, where does selling access to an executive office fall in terms of what justifies an impeachment inquiry? what is deemed an impeachable offense? >> well, it's two separate questions. i've suggested for the four areas for articles of impeachment that you can explore, you can look at the criminal code that includes things like bribery under 201, hobbs, the hobbs act cases. and those have different standards that i think are relevant. in terms of the impeachable standard itself, there's been obviously decades of debate about that. i would hope that there would be general agreement that public corruption, if the president engaged -- >> selling any access. >> right. if he engaged in public corruption -- >> any sword of pedalling of influence. and pay to pay schemes like this, have they been deemed as offensive to the conscious of the american people in such a way to warrant an investigation? >> i think that there's certainly a basis for this inquiry to go forward. there's -- my position is simply that this is early on in an inquiry in terms of linking these which are still just allegations to the president and that's the linkage -- >> thank you, mr. turley. it's far time for joe biden to stop lying to the american people about his shade did foreign business deals. he intentionally misled the american people by using complex maneuvers to pocket millions of dollars from our adversary. he lied when he was vice president, he lied as a candidate to gain the office of president of the united states and now this committee has uncovered the truth. it is time to impeach this compromised commander-in-chief. mr. chairman, i yield. >> gentle lady yields back. >> point of order. i didn't interrupt the gentle lady from colorado. you cannot engage in personalities against the president of the united states. >> we established that mr. ranking member. thank you. >> you cannot say that joe biden lied. he didn't lie -- >> mr. ranking member ---ed. >> you can't say it >> this is -- this is -- >> thank you. >> i can provide you all the cases -- >> reclaiming order. chair recognizes mr. ivy -- >> unanimous consent motion. i would like to reintroduce once again the devin archer transcript and especially point 2 when he says -- >> mr. goldman, we've reentered it -- this is the fifth time. without objection, we entered the devin archer transcript for the fifth time. now chair recognizes mr. ivy from blair land. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i appreciate the chance to let me weigh-in today. because it's such an important hearing. mr. turley, good to see you again. you should get office space here on the hill, i think. this is our third or fourth committee hearing together. i do want to say this. you know, impeachment is one of the greatest powers that the constitution gives to the house of representatives. i think it's important to make sure that we treat it with that level of esteem. i think what's going on or has gone on in the house for several months now, that power has been abused. kicking off this hearing today and i appreciate the word probably used most today is "if" because a lot of these are statements made in the forms of allegations. with respect to connecting them to the president, that hasn't happened. there's a lot of -- if this is true, then that. and i don't think that's efficient to move forward at this point. i appreciate mr. turley's comment. i think you were saying before mrs. boebert cut you off that it was early and mr. biden hadn't been linked at this point. i think that's true. he's not been linked to any of these allegations that have been raised. i did want to talk about a couple of them specifically. with respect to the prosecutor issue, the removal hoff prosecutor general shokin. a couple of points on that front. key one i think is that the removal of shokin was actually detrimental to hunter biden and burisma. it was pretty clear based on statements and testimony that's been given here in the house before these committees and other instances that he was not doing a great job, to say the least. he was sitting on the investigation. he wasn't moving it forward. i think there's been statements that have been made with respect to the imf pressuring to have him removed by threatening to withhold $40 billion in international assistance unless he was removed. the president's request to have him removed along those lines was consistent not only with what he pushed for or the imf pushed for but what others were pushing for as well, including senator johnson, i believe, on that front. so what we've got here is an argument to argue by our republican colleagues that the removal of this prosecutor president biden asking or pressing to have him removed was in some way an effort to undermine an investigation for burisma. but it's pretty clear i think based on the testimony that we received and been presented in congress before and published in some of our documents that that's the exact opposite. things were moving forward -- not moving forward with him there. that were more likely the move forward without him. and so there's really no linkage there between the president and derailing any kind of investigation. with respect to the devin archer statements, devin archer has confirmed over his decade long business relationship with hunter biden that he never heard hunter biden discuss business with his father in phone calls or in person. i do want to add this as well. mr. biden's bookkeeper from 2000 nip to 2018, he was his bookkeeper, he has access to his bank accounts. he had no knowledge of president biden having any involvement in hunter biden's financial activities. with respect to the weiss issue. i know that's been an issue that's been pushed a lot, too. that argument is that -- you know, weiss was derailing the investigation and to hunter biden and slowing it down. you know, key points on that obviously are the fact that weiss was appointed by president trump and as congressman buck said a few days ago in the judiciary committee hearings, if the president had removed weiss when he first came in to office republicans would have argued that that was an effort to derail the investigation against hunter biden. in fact, when the attorney general testified he noted that he had senate republicans that explicitly wanted him and sort of pressed for in their personal meetings that he promised not to remove weiss or replace him. we've had other testimony with respect to the fbi supervisors, the special agent, who is in the sac for the investigation, working with mr. weiss, question, have you ever known u.s. attorney weiss to make prosecutorial decisions based upon political influence? answer, no. have you ever known any of the ausa's for the office of delaware to let their prosecutorial decisions to be guided by political a fear rans? answer no. i apologize for running over. >> gentleman time has expired. >> another unanimous consent request, mr. chairman. i'd like to enter into the record a bipartisan letter signed by senators portman, johnson and kirk urging ukraine to remove mr. shokin because of his own corruption. >> without objection. so order. mr. frye? >> thank you, mr. chairman. professor, in a trial, there's an exchange of evidence back and forth. what we see here today, we've presented evidence. the other side is a lot of bluster and thee attics. also in a trial you have affirmative defenses. the only affirmative defenses is one donald trump, like the ultimate affirmative defense that you can just say his name and all wrong doing is gone away. i mean, lisa mcclain talked about this earlier. he's living in their head. i would also submit to you that he's tap dancing in their head. that's all that they talk about. the second affirmative defense according to the democrats is this magical shut down clock that they have. would it surprise you that every appropriations bill that came before the floor they voted, they don't want to debate. they want to shut down the government. this is the kind of stuff they're doing. the third affirmative defense that you well know at this point is attack the witness. you tonight have the facts, you don't have the law. you have theatrics and you go after the witness. it's like we live -- they have this constant amnesia. we have statements that you don't need a vote. but that's what you talk about. we've worked tirelessly to analyze the ed. every week there's more evidence that drops. that's despite the fbi. despite the doj. we have witness interviews, accounts of confidential human sources. whistle-blower testify. they have not disputed that. bank reports, texts, what's app messages. it's endless. house republicans have always held that this investigation should follow proper procedure and be done the right way. which is whier with here today. we know the biden family members were complicit and benefitted from hunter biden's foreign business dealings. answer the evidence begins to mount, we uncover more and more about joe biden's involvement. i want to focus on the fd 1023, a document that show as conversation gone a confidential human source and a ukrainian business associate are. let's dive in to a key point. the associate asked about the investigation into burisma. he replied don't worry. huntler take care of all of these issues through his dad. two, although hunter biden was labelled as stupid, the guy's dog was smarter than hunter, the source was told that hunter biden was brought on to burisma's board to protect them. three, big fact, hunter and joe biden both told him that he should keep hunter biden on the board. of course, he received a million dollars a year. after the election, it was said it cost $5 million to pay one biden and $5 million to another, meaning joe biden and point five, in 2019, he said he didn't send any funds directly to the big guy. what does that mean? we talked about that a lot today. because it would take investigators ten years to find the records of payments to joe biden. if these allegations are true, there's a reason why it was so hard to put together. this was district attorney deliberately and on purpose. we're here months later. we finally get this document released to the public. what is the most serious allegation outlined in the fd 1023? >> first of all, i'm not someone that put as great deal of emphasize on these type of field reports from sources. but this was not just any source. this was a source that was not just trusted but received considerable amount of money from the fbi and had a long track record. so it does come with that degree of support. what i think an inquiry has to do is drill down on the 1023. there may be nothing there when you drill down. there may be bribery. that's the second offense that is mentioned for impeachment. what makes the 1023 concerning is the overall context. this is one of the reasons why when representative goldman was asking me about bribery, it's more complex. you have section 201. you have the hobbs act. you have all of these cases that suggest that it is public corruption in a lot of different forms. so really you're sort of at the water's edge here. everything that has gone so far from what i can see has been tracking money from banks often trans national transactions that have arrived at the united states. what we haven't seen is the back end of those transfers to what extent can you track that money with regard to the bidens themselves. that i suppose will come out through an inquiry. but until you have those interstitial relationships, you don't know what you have. >> professor, how can we use this document and other documents that we have to expand the case and how pivotal do you think this document is to the case? >> i think an inquiry when someone trusted by the fbi suggested there was actual bribery involving the president, you need to contact everyone involved including the source for the 1023 but also this is secondhand information. so you'll have to pursue the references made by that source. you do it in good faith. to see if there's a there there. >> thank you, mr. chairman. with that i yield back. >> chair re -- >> i like to make a motion for unanimous consent. >> for what? >> mr. chairman, i ask for unanimous consent to enter into the record a "washington post" article entitled the republican case against biden takes a body blow from fox news because they failed to show any connection and their evidence is too far down the path to admit that they are wrong. >> without objection. chair recognizes mr. edwards. >> thank you, mr. chair. i just like to start out by commenting while this is not directly affecting this impeachment inquiry, i am so excited to have heard so many times from that side of the room how concerned folks are over keeping the government running. because you're all going to get a chance in just a few hours to put your money where your mouth is and vote on some bills that will keep the government funded. i hope it's as important to you when you go to cast those votes as what you said that it is this afternoon. we've heard today that -- how many times joe biden has lied. he's lied about his role in his family's business dealings, we've also heard how in the white house he's struggled to keep up with new evidence about consistently shifted its messaging president biden's involvement in hunter biden's business afires. ian sams shifted the white house messaging to now claim that president biden was never in business with his son. this is dramatically different than what we heard from the white house in their previous claims where we were told that president biden had no knowledge of hunter biden's business dealings. yet again, the committee has revealed evidence that then vice president biden had direct knowledge of and involvement in hunter biden's foreign business dealings. kenneth rokyciev is an oligarch that was a director at kazakhstan's state-owned oil company. importantly he maintains ties to kareem mazimov that became prime minister of kazakhstan on april 2, 2014. april 22, 2014, he wired $142,300 to an account associated with hunter biden. the next day the same amount was sent to a car dealership in new jersey for an expensive sports car for hunter biden. around the same time as the payment for hunter biden's sports car, then vice president biden attended a dinner with kenneth rokyciev, kareem mazimov, hunter biden and devin archer at cafe milano in washington d.c. i believe that we have a photo of those here. there they are. and here on another screen, we see a photograph with mr. mazimov on the right standing with joe biden and hunter biden along with mr. rokyciev on the left. united nations if that picture came up or not. in april 2015, vice president biden attended another diner in washington d.c. with prime minister mazimov, hunter biden and devin archer. clearly hunter biden was selling the biden brand. and all the access and political favors that came along with it. this transcript, i believe we'll see it come up, is taken from the committee's interview of devin archer. vice president biden hosted hunter biden, archer and mark holtzman who was the chairman of kazakhstan's large's bank for breakfast at the naval observatory where holtzman who discussed would be the next u.n. secretary general with vice president biden. mr. holtzman was lobbying for mazimov to receive the position. that meeting occurred on july 7, 200015. shortly after vice president had dined againwith mazimov at cafe milano in washington d.c. was mazimov trying to cash in? after all, a meeting with vice president of the united states when trying to become u.n. secretary just might be worth it for a sports car. around that same time, hunter biden and devin archer were pursuing energy projects in kazakhstan on behalf of the corrupted ukraine energy company burisma, which was trying to expand its business in to the country. this is another clear example of hunter biden pedalling access to his father and joe biden participating in the influence pedalling scheme. hunter seeks business opportunities in a foreign country. and provides access and political favors through his father's office to get paid. mr. chair, i see i'm out of time. i'll yield. >> i have a unanimous consent request. i seek unanimous consent to enter a men random issued by staff of the committee on judiciary and oversight explaining how the testimony of five irs -- >> without object shrunk. chairman recongress nices mr. lange from new york. >> we heard shifting denials and deflections from president biden related to his son's foreign business deals and ventures. we know president biden has lied to the american people 16 times about his family's business schemes. in august 2019, joe biden told reporters first of all, i have never discussed with my son or my brother or anyone else anything having to do with their business period. joe biden continued to double down on this statement throughout the 2020 presidential race. in september 2019, joe biden again stated i have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings. these lies continued throughout the 2020 presidential race. it was only recently the biden administration has begun to shift their answer on what joe biden knew about his son's foreign business deals. in june of this year, the white house changed their position by claiming that the president was not in business with his son. moreover, media and members across the aisle continue to run cover for president biden repeatingly shifting the goal post and repeatedly pedalling the notion that hunter biden was selling the "illusion of access." evidence discovered by this committee in its investigation in to the biden brand, however, has revealed hunter's product went well beyond illusions of access. on display is an example of actual access to the then vice president. during his transcribed interview, devin archer was withed about how many times hunter biden put his father on speaker phone while in business meetings. archer made it clear during this whole ten-year partnership that joe biden was on speaker phone maybe 20 times while archer was present. when later interviewed by tucker carlson, archer went on to say if you're sitting with a foreign business person and you hear the voice of a vice president, that's prize enough. pretty impactful stuff. archer stated in the rear view, it's an abuse of soft power. now the president's power was not overt. job did not e-mail hunter biden asking for burisma's quarterly reports. all it takes for biden to be involved in hunter's business dealings is biden crafting an implemented policy based on promptings from his son in receiving payment in return. mr. turley, have you ever had your parents call in during an official business meeting? >> no. >> okay. members across the aisle have characterized hunter's speaker phone conversations as casual conversation and niceties about the weather and what is going on. now, during business -- during a business meeting, have you ever answered a call from a parent or put them on speaker and proceeded to discuss the weather? >> not in my case, no. >> would you say that such actions are generally out of the ordinary in the business world? >> i couldn't speak for all business world, but strikes me as being odd. >> looking at the evidence like this transcript of devin archer's testimony and other evidence discussed today, can you contrast the level of thoroughness of this committee's investigation compared with the democrats in 2019? >> i was highly critical of the trump impeachment, the first trump impeachment, which i felt did not development a sufficient record to merit the articles. i thought it was enough to go forward. the second impeachment, they used a snap impeachment. they jettisoned anything investigation at all, which did do doing. >> looking at the transcript, would you agree there's inconsistentsies with the president'sstatements that he didn't discuss business with his son or he was not in business with his son? >> devin archer was asked that question and said it was patently false to suggest that president biden was not aware of his son's business dealings. >> very good. mr. chairman, i would yield back any time to you. >> thank you. >> mr. chairman? over here. i ask unanimous consent to enter in to the record this article by the "new york post" dated september 14, 2023. house gop probing then vice president biden's dodgy breakfast meeting with bank officials at official residence. showing vice president joe biden taking meetings at the vice president's residence with his son's business partners. >> mrs. o'connor, i assume you've had time to review the bank memorandums and the evidence that we derived the suspicious activity reports about the various bank reports that allege money laundering, allege receiving wires from state-owned entities and things like that. what kind of crimes are we talking about there and how -- how often do you run across people, even the most criminal people, who have 170 suspicious activity reports? >> there's about 700 pages worth of documents that you released yesterday. i've not looked at them all carefully. one factor that continues to be overlooked is the fact that in tax law, there's a concept of constructive receipt. if i owe you $100 but i don't want to pay you directly, i don't want a trace but i know that representative jordan pays your bills, i will pay him knowing that he's going to take care of you. you have to constructive receipt of that money from me. i think that if the special agents were able to follow the leads that they wanted to develop, they would develop a lot of information that you'd be interested in. >> mr. chairman, another unanimous consent request. >> go ahead. >> just to clarify. mr. langworthy said it was the democrats that said that joe biden and hunter biden talked about the weather. >> point of order. is that -- >> i would like to reintroduce the devin -- >> point of order -- >> chair -- chair recognize mrs. bigs. >> my point of order that is not -- >> that is not a point of order. you're correct. the gentleman from arizona is correct. chair will now -- >> unanimous consent request. >> do you have a unanimous consent? >> yes. to reintroduce those six pages of testimony from devin archer -- >> okay. for the seventh time without objection. chair now recognizes mr. burleson -- >> you have called him and we could have questioned him. >> as you know, he's -- >> the chair recognize mrs. burleson. was that mr. bigs? okay. do you have a point of order? chair recognizes mr. burleson from missouri. >> thank you. professor turley, can you tell me, would it be illegal or unearth call for elected officials to utilize the resources in their office, utilize their staff to financially benefit family members business or their own? >> part of the problem -- the reason i think the illusion that defense is elucory, if the president was involved in that influence pedalling scheme, it would involve using his office as a commodity for corruption. >> yes. >> if you don't follow forward. that itself would be an issue of corruption to discuss. >> thank you. on multiple occasions, he said he was not involved in his family's business dealings. the work of this committee, the records that we've had from the treasury department, the irs testimony, all tell a different story. all from different sources. and even his own staff didn't get the memo that they weren't supposed to communicate with his son's business. this e-mail dated december 4, 2015, shows that vice president biden through his communications staff director, kate bettenfield coordinated a response to reporters when they questioned about the conflict of his involvement with ukraine and his son's involvement with burisma. she coordinated not just with hunter, but hunter biden's business associate. why is the staff of the president of the united states communicating with a business associate for the president's son? mr. scharin that served as the executive for hunter biden, was intimately involved in corrupt -- in the biden family business dealings. and he visited joe biden's resident 36 times while he was vice president. so in this e-mail exchange, he actually says to her, will you call me when you get a chance? i'm in the office or on my cell. 47 minutes later, this e-mail that was sent -- seen on the screen, was sent and the e-mail clearly was a coordination of talking points between the president's office and the business. in fact, what is really striking is that this interaction occurred on the same day -- back up. the other thing that is interesting to note is not only do they have an interaction but in the e-mail it says the vp signed off on this. the vp signed off on the shared communication. timeline is this occurred on the same day that the board of burisma requested hunter to help alleviate pressure that it was facing from the prosecutor shokin's investigation. let's turn to another e-mail. we have a staff member from vice president biden's office e-mailing joe biden about poroshenko. this e-mail was to robert l. peters. we thought that that would be strange, biden is using an alias. the more strange thing who is cc'd in the e-mail. hunter biden. not just his personal e-mail, his business e-mail account. so you have, again, a staff person coordinating a meeting with the president and using those resources to coordinate that with the biden's business. so if our precedent, when he said he was not involved in his son's business ventures, why is his son copied on the e-mail? i ask that these e-mails be added to the record. >> without objection. so ordered. >> what the american people need to be asking is the question, why in the world would the vice presidentcoordinate with a business associate of hunter biden? why would he direct his staff to coordinate with the business associate of hunter biden? and why does hunter biden need his father's approval to sign off on alleged separated business dealings and why would president biden lie about his family's involvement with international business dealings? the analogy that was made before about hunter using his father's car to get a speeding ticket is an absurd analogy. a more accurate one, if joe biden threatened the job of the prosecutor or the officer who was issuing the speeding ticket to his son. with that, i yield back. >> gentleman yield back. the last questioner, mr. armstrong from north dakota. >> we spent all day long talking about evidence and proof and different definitions and all of those different things. we spent the day talking about unconditional love for sons a dick shun, all of these different issues. we missed one of the points. this was going on for years. this was going on for years with various different companies during the course of joe biden's vice presidency, after his vice presidency and at least during his candidacy for president. he's one example out of many. in 2015, hunter biden and and james started working with cefc a chinese energy company with direct ties to the chinese communist party. there's ed they delayed payment until when joe biden was no longer vice president to assume no appearance of impropriety. in 2017 after joe biden left office, hunter biden wants to get paid. in july 2017, there's a meeting in moscow between vladimir putin and president xi with the chairman of the cefc, the chinese energy party was present. is talking about large scale oil and gas purchase of the company called rosnet by the chinese communist party. now, on july 30th, 2017, there's a text with hunter biden and the members of cefc. that text reads "if i get a call or text from anyone involved other than you or the chairman,ly make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person her knows in my ability to forever hold a grudge that were not following that direction." the people he's talking -- this guy disappeared. he's been killed or he's not been seen since 2018. that is true. august 30th, another -- august 3, another text. i'm tired of this, kevin. i can make $5 million in salary at any law firm in america. if you think this is about money, it's not. the bidens are the best i know doing what the chairman wants from this partnership. don't quibble over peanuts. we talked about influence pedalling, this is a shakedown. use whatever terms we want, this is a threat. they believed it. the next day they sent $100,000. you think they were scared of hunter biden? i don't know. i think we should find out. it matters. 9-17 the same year, there's a deal done between the chinese communist party and russia for 17% sale of rosnet. we continue to go through that. finally in december of 2018, a year -- over a year later, there's another text. we're not talking about a speeding ticket. we're just not. you're right, hallie. i find myself because i have chosen to alienate my friends and family. we're dealing with rebuilding an income that support an enormous alimony and my kids and myself dealing with the aftermath of the abduction and likely assassination, that's what "the new york times" says, of my business partner, the richest man in the world. the arrest and conviction of my client, the chief of intelligence of the people's republic of china by the u.s. government, the retaliation of the chinese in the ouster and arrest of the u.s. suspected cia operative inside china, my suspected involvement in brokering a deal with vladimir putin for the largest sale of oil and gas assets to china, a tax bill that was left hanging over my head and by the way, my dad is running for president. with the next step

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