whampleght are my thoughts about what? >> running for re-election in 2026. >> oh, ha ha -- >> did you hear the question, senator, running for re-election in 2026? >> yes. >> i'm sorry, y'all, we are going to need a minute. senator. somebody else have a question, please speak up? >> laura: no, is he not okay. now, bizarrely, after that disturbing episode, neither of the two questions that followed referenced what just happened. but this was the final question. >> what is your reaction on trump's latest indictment? would you support him as a nominee? >> it's a question about trump. yeah, i'm not going to comment about the presidential race. either on the republican or the democratic side. >> mcconnell spokesperson tried to explain all of this away saying mitch felt momentarily light headed and paused during that press conference. now, that's not what we saw this is a pause. we have real problems here. in both parties. our government is about to begin what are monumentally negotiations over the budget and appropriations. five men are supposed to play a dominant role in those talks. biden is 80 years old. schumer 72, mcconnell 81. and mccarthy, hakeem jeffries both in their 50's. now this means at least two of those five involved in deciding how we spend trillions of our tax dollars, they are no longer capable of working full time. and both sadly show obvious symptoms of both serious and cognitive decline. this is always a tough situation in any family but in this case, with the authority and the power that they have they have no words for their wives and families who keep pushing them out there. wait a second. wait a second. jill is not a dock, to a real one. so she can't diagnose biden's obvious deterioration? >> now i would yield to -- who am i yielding to? >> distinguished guest, the president of the republic of korea. [laughter] >> we needed the voice of god to tell us that. [laughter] >> laura: neither mcconnell or biden should be in their current jobs. we all know that and given everything we know about the foreign money trail, biden is likely compromised not just by his health but by the millions and millions his family has made overseas. but being corrupt is bad. being corrupt and senile is even worse. and as for senator mcconnell, he should be at home enjoying his twilight years he did some really good stuff with supreme court nominations and he should get credit for that. but every member of the republican conference should have compassionately urged him to step aside five weeks ago, which is the last time when this happened. the fact that no one did this to our knowledge is stunning and frankly irresponsible. of course, as the angle has noted previously, the democrats, they are only going to dump biden if they think he has become a political liability. they haven't thought that yet. remember, they actually prefer having a puppet like biden as president because he is easily manipulated. but, republicans can't feinstein mcconnell. in other words, let him continue on like this. it's cruel. and it also negates their ability to make biden's own decrepit state an issue in 2024. >> remember the g.o.p. senate chooses to replace mcconnell should not be his establishment understudy. instead he or she should reflect the majority views of the party on china, on the border, on the deep state, the need to reform it, ukraine, and trade. as i said the other night, we have already won the debate on the big issues in the g.o.p. and there's no going back to 2005, kids. joijoining me now chris bedford common editor. ned roin majority founder and ceo. chris, who can we look to as a potential mcconnell replacement. >> i don't see anyone in the ranks right now really standing out. the person who is going to be mcconnell's replacement is going to be the person that shuffles the most money toward the senate colleagues. you were exactly right when you said who is negotiating on behalf of the republicans on behalf of conservatives? the answer right now is no one. there is basically no one in the senate g.o.p. who is particularly leadership level who is particularly interested in negotiating on anything. right now the democratic party is literally arresting and charging their political opposition. there is not even any kind of attempts to withhold money from that government that's doing that. and even though for years for release for months and months and maybe even years, his senate colleagues have noticed that mitch mcconnell sadly declining, none of them are willing to speak out about it because anyone who does is going to lose access to that money that he funnels. so people like rick scott can stand up and say i have got an idea. i have got a plan heroically and say i want to replace mcconnell. until they are able to follow that money toward all those no names in the u.s. senate, they are not going to get very far. >> laura: ned, that's depressing. >> it's realistic. >> laura: we have so soldier on here though. mitch mcconnell is out of step with the republican party. he is. that has to change. because right now like all i see is rubber stamp, rubber stamp, rubber stamp. as long as ukraine is getting it's f-16s there is no negotiation at all going on. today what we saw was both sad and also for people who want change infuriating. >> no. i totally agree. mitch mcconnell has been deeply antagonistic towards america first. it's clear he is in cognitive decline. at a minimum he needs to step down from his leadership role, become a back bencher and vacate that spot, i will not advocate for him laura on politically -- i'm a political realist in that i know the gubernatorial election in kentucky this fall will determine when mcconnell should resign from the senate and hopefully david cameron wins the gubernatorial election in november for kentucky and can appoint a replacement for mcconnell. but it would be nice to see a leader in the senate caucus, g.o.p. caucus that is at least not antagonistic towards america first and actually wants to see some of those policy priorities for the base actually advance and hopefully, if we win the white house in 2024, and take the senate back, have somebody that can actually work with an america first president to advance that agenda instead of fighting it every step of the way, as mitch mcconnell did. >> laura: chris, is there a consensus candidate to be the senate minority leader? could there be someone who doesn't offend, at least, the populist core of the party and somewhat palatable? you have to split the baby. not josh hawley or j.d. vance. they are juniors. it cannot be him. would somebody else be possible? >> yes. absolutely. any one of his deputies could step forward at this time and republicans would end up backing them. they know things aren't going to really change. here's the funny thing is that mitch mcconnell was a master of the senate. he truly was. for years it made it seem to his deputies and to his adversaries in the g.o.p. he was necessary to make everything flow and everything work. those couple months that he was absent after his fall at that d.c. hotel, people started to realize, you know, the senate actually works without mitch mcconnell. and the right and the moderates and liberal republicans were able to actually work together on some level. so they know now that they don't actually need mitch mcconnell to go forward and to move forward, but no one is going to take that shot, and once someone does, i think, generally the caucus will eventually come behind them. once mcconnell and his money men are willing to step aside. >> laura: on biden, the question of him, the white house sent the press secretary out to defend his condition yesterday. watch this. >> what this president brings to this administration is wisdom and experience. and that is just true. the thing the president is able to do is deliver. >> you are part of the 23% of adults. >> ha ha ha. >> who are not concerned about the president's ability to be president because of his age and stamina. i got it? >> because because we the got to watch him. watch him. >> laura: is that convincing argument? even jake tapper. >> jake tapper always loves to jump on an issue once its safe. not convincing argue. at all from the white house people can't quite keep up with joe biden. the democrats have turned on this. republicans have turned on this. but at the end of the day, when we have an election, a repeat of an election between joe biden and donald trump, i do think the democrats will absolutely fall in line behind their man. it's not great for the future of actually progressive agenda, et cetera, or america standing in the world. but it is a safe bet for the democrats. >> laura: politico by the way rushed to mcconnell's defense almost immediately, which i found fascinating today. saying that he quickly convened with allies, pointing out that the g.o.p. leader still has unissueiunfinished business moro ukraine and offer to former president donald trump. ned, that really is the rub. is he with the establishment both in the media and in the democrat party on key issues. is he not? that's why they are rushing to his defense. >> oh, absolutely. i would argue, except for some of the supreme court stuff, which by the way, great for him for blocking merrick garland that only worked because donald trump won. great for him doing the nuclear option on scotus for getting us gain of function research, kavanaugh and barrett. i think chris pointed out that mitch was considered an expert in procedural stuff. that wasn't mitch. we saw that with his absence. that was the cloak room staff and the floor staff. mitch is very much expendable. is he not with the base. he has made it clear his priorities with ukraine and other things have nothing to do with where the republican base is right now. you ask who is going to replace probably john thune ohio have to admit in the senate has been disappointing. my dad served with him in the house. if we get john thune from the house, i think he would be palatable to the base. >> laura: do you agree with that, chris, that he would be palatable to the base, john thune of south dakota? >> john thune is inoffensive. even as a senator he is fairly inoffensive. i think what is going to change is what he decides to do with that power. and if republicans, conservative republicans feel like they are boxed out. to that politico headline, that's unsurprising. that is a publication that will do anything for access to power. >> laura: yeah. and the status quo. keep that money flowing. chris and ned, thank you both. coming up my part 2 of the exclusive interview we had with trump co-defendant and former legal adviser john eastman. but, first, continuing the trend of putting the world before american citizens is a biden administration about to give a big assist to probably our biggest military adversary? my angle plus gordon chang next. ♪ this is hunting country. this is our country. time to get ready for the season during the fall hunting classic at bass pro shops and cabela's. save on great gear with our low-price guarantee. and for a limited time, get inflation buster pricing on select tracker offroads - plus club members receive special financing. only at bass pro shops and cabela's. u focus of tonight's angle. ♪ summer loving ♪ had me a blast ♪ summer loving ♪ happened so fast ♪ i met a girl crazy for me ♪ i met a boy cute as can be >> laura: yeah it was summer loving and she had her a blast. >> three very productive days, very full days here in china. i visited iconic american companies, like boeing and had a wonderful tour of disney here in shanghai. and, of course, i met with my counterparts from the prc government. both meetings were productive, i'm happy to report. >> laura: well this week biden's commerce secretary gina raimondo was the latest in a long line of senior biden officials made pilgrimages to ukraine. after this trip four days long clear this white house is far more excited about cooperating and working with the chinese communist party than they ever have been or ever will be with the g.o.p. establish working groups. announced a tourism summit. i think this was the angle's favorite. >> we agree that technical experts on china and from the u.s. would convene to strengthen protections from trade secrets. this trip was an excellent start. >> laura: ha! wait a second. we're going to get trade secrets protection help from china? talk about the fox is guarding the hen house? i mean, the democrats ever give republicans the benefit of the doubt like they do with china? the answer would be no. and, of course, all the climate change dances that kerry has done with china, they are a complete joke. and the press spin has been hilarious, politico cited the fact that china committed to regular conversations and that represents a substantial step in restoring trust. this is insane. we are on a suicide mission by aligning ourselves against fossil fuels while letting china buy oil and everything else from russia and iran. they are swimming in oil. we all know what china wants. of course we know this. they want to supplant america on the global stage in part by beginning the process of dedollarization. which would be a direct hit to our middle class and the end of america's super power status. talk about that in a moment. but the globalists, they are not preoccupied about what happens to the working class here. certainly not worried about americans' decline in general. they are too worried about china's economic problems, which we know are growing expossibly and worried biden china's decline. "new york times" columnist and supposed republican bret stephens is just one of many in the orbit pushing some type of u.s. bailout of beijing. chinese tariffs. that would be showing, i love this, american economic magnanimity, regular people you don't get that magnanimity, but china should. you cannot make this up. think of where we are right now with our trade deficit with china. it's a complete nightmare. we have gone from $308 billion. 2.9 billion in 2021. and a staggering 382.3 billion last year i gina raimondo or bret stephens or anyone in the d.c. establishment. actually, i think they would be happier if we had a bigger trade deficit with china. euphoric cheaper stuff that we can buy here, right? of course, this means china will get even richer and be able to buy even more weapons and threaten more people, no more what happens, the answer from the establishment is always the same, we need more engagement with china. is china booming? we should have more engagement with china? we share a responsibility, show that china and the united states can manage their differences and find ways to work together on urgent global issues. the united states stands ready to do just that work with you if that's what your desire. >> laura: economically? let's do ccp level propaganda and encourage americans to invest in china because that's what raimondo was doing with their women executive meeting today. and is china supporting russia and ukraine? of course china is supporting russia in ukraine. that's no big deal. >> we have been very clear about ukraine, as long as it takes. just not going to get ahead of a potential meeting that putin and president xi may have. >> don't get ahead of. that is china committing genocide? come on, people, don't focus on the negative? we had candid open conversations. constructive conversations. i was able to explain u.s. policies and our approach to china what it is not is decoupling or looking to hold back the chinese economy. j they are convinced that no matter what happens, no matter what china does, we must always and forever maintain good relations with china. >> think about decoupling. they would rather have good relations with the ccp than have good relations with a 74 million americans they like the communist chinese party and they do business better than they like the trump voters and all their old traditions. as long as they can get away with it politically the establishment will always prioritize helping the ccp over helping any of new middle america. manufacturing jobs were not a mistake. china's spectacular growth over the years that, wasn't a mistake china's take our technology and tylenol our position all over asia and the rest of the world. that was not a mistake. that was all their policy. four years for donald trump. and if they win in 2024, i promise you it will be their policy again. that's the angle. of course we haven't even really gotten into the fact that raimondo's four-day vacation in beijing was preceded by china at what's called the brics summit. the group of brazil, russia, india, china and the south african alliance that is trying to eclipse america in the g-20. we are pretty much helping them anyway. gordon chang, senior fellow gate stone institute. author of the upcoming book "china is going to war. ". gordon, the beijing bailout you say something like that has been tried by past presidents. how did it all work the out for us. >> we did that in 1972 with nixon. george h.w. bush in 1989 and bill clinton in 1999, three rescues of the communist party. well, we thought by being generous china would reciprocate? no, it used it to strengthen itself and become more hostile. >> this is the biggest diplomatic mistake in u.s. history. the grandest wager and clearly we have an east coast establishment that wants to continue it. you know bret stephens talking about being magnanimous towards the chinese which really means being pretty awful to american workers. >> when you think about this brics meeting that took place, i guess putin didn't attend but he phoned in or something. how significant. it's not a big deal. isn't that a direct assault on americans preempt members in the world as a global super power expand like they wanted to especially the dedollarization. >> china certainly wants it to move in that direction. china wants to dedollar rise the world. we have got to remember that biden has opened the door to this. you know, if we worry about dedollarization, we worry about the petro dollar. biden made saudi arabia and trump had the greatest relations with with saudi arabia. that's not exaggeration. you turn around and biden tries to make them a pariah. mohammed bin salman the crowned prince retaliating trying to buy and sell oil. and also brazil. da silva, the new president of brazil trying to dedollar rise the world. he would never be elected if biden didn't help him over his predecessor. we have opened the door to dedollarization. biden did. >> laura: people hearing the phrase de-dollarization. i don't think most people understand what that would mean to them to their families and their budgets. how would this play out in terms of dollars and cents? >> well, what it means is that the world doesn't use the dollar. which means that we got to borrow in somebody else's currency, which always is a risk. >> laura: more expensive? >> much more expensive. puts the u.s. really at risk of default. and also interest rates go up well beyond where they are right now. the u.s. loses a lot of diplomatic leverage because we do use the dollar, not only for sanctions but also for other means as well. so the u.s. in a world where the dollar is not dominant is a world of hurt for the average american. >> laura: well, and gordon, finally, when we see biden send four officials, top officials to beijing after the balloon surveillance, uyghur genocide, crushing freedom in hong kong, and all these liberals here in the united states, aoc, where are all these people? where are the progressives? they used to say they cared about human rights. >> yeah. well they certainly don't care about genocide and crimes against humanity and these atrocities are the worst since the third right. it also means biden is trying to show the chinese, i guess, that sufficient can't. that's the way he views it. send four officials to china without a return visit by a senior official to washington. this is really bad diplomacy. and really what it's making is xi jinping much more aggressive which means that he may very well start a war because he doesn't respect the united states anymore. thinks we are weak. >> laura: gordon, thank you. up next, part two of my exclusive interview with former trump attorney and co-defendant john eastman. a lot we covered. stay with us especially when it comes to your child's education. introducing power homeschool the official provider of online acellus courses for parents independently homeschooling their children. i really love how flexible the program is. it allows my child to work at her own pace and on her own schedule. join the growing community of parents who have discovered the power of power homeschool. visit our website at power homeschool dot org to learn more and start your child's educational journey. 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i don't want to get in the middle of deliberations where i wasn't party to them. there is a lot that goes n those situation rooms that i don't know anything about. i don't want to get in the middle of that. >> laura: john, again, to clarify this. on january 6th what did you wanted to happen? and how was that historically grounded in the history of our country, how would that have taken place? just so the viewers can understand what would have unfolded and how that would have ultimately been constitutional? >> so, you know, several things. some people had urged that vice president pence simply had power to reject electors whose certification was still pending. >> laura: i don't believe that but would. i don't believe that. >> i don't either. >> laura: that's one thing i don't agree with. >> and i explicitly told vice president pence in the oval office on january 4th that even though it was an open issue under the circumstances we had i thought it was the weaker argument. and it would be foolish to exercise such power even if he had it. what i recommended and i have said this repeatedly, is that he exceeds a request for more than 100 state legislators in those swing states to give them a week to try to sort out the impact of what everybody acknowledged was illegality in the conduct of the election. >> laura: not everyone acknowledged it but that was the argument that was being made, obviously. there were obviously irregularities that everybody had seen but whether that was -- yeah, whether it rose to the level of changing the outcome of the election, again, without a legal proceeding in the states that mattered, the argument ultimately was a different one to make hence here we are in georgia, filed a significant election challenge with 1500 pages of sworn affidavits and expert analysis. it didn't even get a judge appointed until the end of the month and then too late to do anything about it. the initial status hearing was scheduled for january 8th, two days after the certification in congress. >> laura: john, again, you thought a week was going to be enough to hear all these challenges that were not right and were rejected? >> we're still two and a half years later looking at the evidence. what a week would have done is give them an opportunity to assess okay, is the uncertainty because ever the illegality and the election that we have a failed election. and at that point, to do the best they can resolves back to the legislature as you know, laura, article 2 of the constitution is clear. plenty area power is vested in the legislature. nofts in the state courts, no the in the state secretary of state not the county clerks but in the legislature. if their manner was not complied with, as it clearly was not, a week have with given a time to try to decide what if anything to do about it. and, you know, we were never going to get in a week to the bottom of how much fraud, what have you. but we could get to the bottom of illegality and we could make some estimates and extrapolations to try and do the best job we could, assess what the likelihood outcome actually was. >> laura: all right. well we have irritated joy reid, i'm very upset about this. i will tell you why. the five late night hosts start a new show. raymond arroyo has it all. seen and unseen is next. ♪ ♪ >> laura: it's time for seen and unseen segment we explore the cultural segments of the day for that we turn to fox news contributor raymond arroyo. something feels like we struck a nerve with joy and the gang over at msnbc. >> yeah. i think we did, laura. this is how they reacted to the idea that black voters might be giving trump a second look. >> mainly that trump being an accused felon has broadened his appeal with black voters. >> one black lady i spoke with earlier today in new orleans said trump's a gangster and that means he has cred among a new block of voters that perhaps have never given him a serious look and now they are looking again. >> y'all don't really know any black people, do you, none, right? none, i figured. >> no, joy, i guess those were imaginary black guests you had on the show the other night, laura. i suppose -- i don't know any black people in new orleans. my home, a majority black city. and i never go into that city to the communities most affected by d.c. policies. and actually talk to the people that most networks ignore. no, joy, i have never done any of that, i guess. >> laura: i guess all those like polls or phantom polls that show trump has an increasing percentage of the black vote, that's all made up? they don't like -- they are criticizing the fox poll. i get it. raymond. >> it's not just. >> laura: hold on. >> it's not just the fox poll. there are others, axios, reuters, they are all saying the same thing. >> laura: we have to remind everyone that you cannot be authentically african-american in the eyes of some on the left if you don't subscribe to their views on a are a variety of issues. that's why they never thought clarence thomas was authentically black. tom seoul was never black. walter williams. any of the people we featured on our show they are not real, they are fake or they are use phrases like uncle tom. that's what they think. they are not actually authentic. everybody thinks is make believe so bad refive the death penalty 1990s. >> let them come and tell the rappers that are being seduced by trump what he did in his hometown to innocent black men. >> now, wait a minute. rappers are being seduced by trump he better watch that. he is joy reid is likely to tell don't know any black people. al sharpton should be the last one talking about race in pa period. i have two words for him tawana brawley. remember that hoax? >> oh yeah. well, they know what they do to black americans who get in their way and that's to the next point that you were going to raise. >> yeah, well, this is the other problem that the democrats have it's electoral one. cornel west. this is west commenting on bernie sanders and the democratic party. listen to this. >> they are dominated by their corporate wing. they are dominated by the militarists when it comes to foreign policy and he and aoc and the others are going to be in a certain sense window dressing. the democratic party is beyond redemption at this point. >> laura: raymond, i love how joe and kamala, their answer to all of this with, what, a new outreach to the black community, consists of inviting a few elites to the white house for a photo op. and a listening session. >> kamala and i want to convene this incredible group of civil rights leaders for a simple reason, to thank them and to tell them what they tell us, we know we got a lot more work to do. >> there is an anti dote to this i'm sure of it. it will be rooted in our courage like those who 60 years ago marched and stood. there is an opportunity in front of us. >> laura, do you think this moves the needle one iota in the community itself? see, i think raising grocery prices, rising gas prices, the crime that members of the black community are enduring every day, that's what they see and experience. and this stuff, a bunch of elites sitting aren't the table with biden with this they have to do this heavy editing job nobody made a coherent sentence anybody could play in toto. i doubt this moves the needle with black america. we will see shortly. >> laura: i'm not sure if nobody made a coherent statement. i'm betting that biden did not make a coherent statement. i'm happy to hear from anybody on any of these subjects. don't claim to have the market cornered on what people care about because i think a lot of people are worried about this economy and that's why they want to whip up, you know, racial fears and tensions. racism is horrific but thank goodness it's not at the core of everything we are in our country anymore. >> yeah. well, you just mentioned it. and the real problem here is the mental state of the president himself. and like mitch mcconnell who you had at the top of the show, all voters have grave concerns about biden's competency who apparently now thinks he is the president of canada. >> think about that. a drug company that makes a drug here in america if it's sold in chicago, you can buy the same drug in toronto or paris cheaper than can you buy it in toronto. >> why is he worried about the price of drugs in toronto, laura? none of this makes any sense. i listened to this about four times. nowhere did it make sense. >> laura: i think is he probably talking about having the medicare most favored nation drug pricing that other countries get that we don't get. i'm looking at his squinting eyes and he seems a little -- he seems in pain there, raymond, almost as much as we were. yeah, he said here in chicago. he kind of corrected it. he tried to correct it. i mean, we are just so used to the mumblings and rumblings at this point. and, raymond, it's great to see you don't. thank you so much. i'm glad you are authentically you. all right, ray. now, which sexually explicit books are your kids now getting in their school libraries? one parent's here to tell us what he found. what he found. it was shocking, and that's next. to invest themselves in learning? when we set out to develop acellus gold. we decided to take this challenge head on. what would happen if student motivation was built directly into the dna of the learning experience? the first time i saw students learning on a acellus gold. i could immediately tell this was going to be a game changer. we designed a series of immersive learning activities that are locked until the student completes their daily assignments. these activities, such as the write a book feature, are tailored to the student's grade level and offer engaging learning experiences in a less structured environment. i love the way acellus integrated social interaction between students taking the same classes. the system connects students by allowing them to share positive messages about each other's achievements, and it leverages peer encouragement to propel students forward. acellus gold has helped our school create an environment that fosters excitement and enthusiasm for learning. >> i'm -- bi john roberts. we have a relationship with the audience where they look at us for with the real deal is when it comes to politics. they trust us. they believe that we are going to tell the story and that we will give them the tools that they need to make a decision about where this nation's future should go. >> laura: all right, i can't believe it is already back-to-school time. so let's check in on what are those our kids are reading. in texas, when father is getting a lot of attention for a book that he found available in a public school library. he read some excerpts and the nerve of him at the round rock's school board meeting this month. i have to warn you, it is a little graphic. >> the book i will be reading from his "all boys aren't blue." he went into giving me head. i enjoyed it as i could tell he was, too. he came up and asked if i wanted to try it on him. i said, sure. i began and he said, watch your teeth. and then later in the book, he says, i remember the condom was blue and flavored like cotton candy. >> laura: enough, enough, enough. i get the point. joining me in now is the man you saw. j, was that the worst part of the work? or was there more? >> no, there was more graphic details. it was more like a how to sex manual for gay sex for high schoolers, i guess. i don't read many books. however, when i started searching through the library reading material and stumble across that book, i was shocked. i was really taken aback and just, you know, you could see it as i was reading it, i was extremely nervous because it is not language i would normally use and especially in the public forum even you know, a school board meeting. however, i just feel like parents need to stop auto parenting and start paying attention to what is going on in the schools and what is available to their children. >> laura: what was the reaction from other parents who perhaps did not those were not aware that this -- subject matter was being covered in a book that their son or daughter could pick up in the library? >> sure, so we had a two to 10 parents who there reading other books with excerpts that were even more erratic -- erotic, very graphic. each one of the parents who step up were like-minded. we feel the same way. >> laura: what is the school's response? >> the school has not responded to us in this way. about this or since that meeting. however, that night, the school trustees allowed us to read the passages only once the -- did they stop one of the parents and asked to refrain from using certain language. >> laura: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, jay. you are reading passages from the book, books that they have in the library and they are defending implicitly at least. they have not responded to is either. and they are telling you to stop reading it? so the adults can't read it but the kids can read it? >> exactly. that is the hypocrisy. >> laura: oh, that makes a lot of sense. the author of their spoke out about the controversy last year. it popped up in other places. watch this. >> are live in this country long enough to know that these type -- there's a reason that my story is doing what it is doing now. i was always ready for it. being at the intersection of blackness and clearness -- queerness, you often have to be ready for a violent response. >> laura: violent response? are we bother? >> not at all. there were parents in the meeting who used all the usual words and accusations against the parents who were speaking out. >> laura: he was not a speaking about you. that happened last year. >> of course. >> laura: there are a lot of books that are out there that no one is trying to ban per se. but the question is, what is appropriate to be in a public school for young people? that is the point, isaac. jay, thank you. shocking, but in a way could not. that is our society. what are we going to do about it? that is it for us tonight. taking the next few days off. you are going to be in good hands. follow me unsocial. i will be updating. it is america now and forever. jesse is next. >> jesse: welcome to "jesse watters primetime." tonight -- >> not everyone is a "sports illustrated" swimsuit model, period, and [bleep] you if you don't like it. >> jesse: jordan peterson in a government reprogramming camp. he is here tonight. >> luke what he has here. >> jesse: a new book says joe biden is in decline. and not in charge. >> let me play for you what nikki haley has said. >> that is not what i said. yo