but i want to say this verygh clearly tonight . nor matter w what you think aboa this outcome, the leak itself represents a shocking and unprecedented breach of the court's confidentialitythe, which is sacrosanct and it's key to the court's ability on any issue to engage in thet give and take and all the decision making that's required to reach these decisions based on legal principles, basedin on the constitution, notno because of political pressure. that's what the legislature does, not the court and those who clerk at the court, ll especially the law clerks, they are t afforded a tremendous privilege.em think aboutendous privi to workt the court to to learn from the justices. but the inviolable deal that you strike when you accept c that clerkship, which is the most coveted thing you can have as a youngou lawyer, is that you swear confidentiality regarding everything you seeer and everything you hear in especially the internal deliberations of the court, especially that it is not up ton a law clerk to decide when t the decision of the court willhe be announced and it is not up a to a law clerk or any employee of the court to make a decision in what is a naked attempt to try to change the outcome before the final opinion is issued. now why am i som passionate about this tonight?ually know i actually know what i'mwh talking about. a lot ofab people on televisione and i don't know what they're talking about. i was a supreme court lawaw clerkrk and i know because i saw my opinions go back and forth, drafts of opinions go back and forth, language changesge sometimes sometimes even votes might change. maybe a justice will see an argument he or she didn't think of breyer, but it does happen.n. but this is all done confidentially to encourage this free exchange of ideas that's always deemed by everyone. doesn't matter what your political background is--, ti doesn't matter seemed essentiall to the proper functioning of our nation's highest court. now chief justice rehnquist and our orientation session. the court said to all of us there are nine justices, four clerks for each chamber is usually thirty six and then a couple of the retired justices still have clerks that are still at the court but not many, many young people. about 30 , 40 young youn lawyers. he looked a us and he said if you leak anything fromhi this court, you can kissoo your legal career bye bye. >> done that .t. we remember that and doy the entirety of the court's history. no matter how controversial or disruptive the court's decisions. ben, i'm talking decades, decades ofki decisions on freedm of religion, rights ofig criminals, same-sex marriage, none of those draft opinions ever leaked. know why? know because everyone in that building understood that was a line that could never be crossed. and it is a sad commentary a that someone in that building took it upon himself or herself to totally usurp the role of the justices and hijack the court's deliberative process. this was a bald faced attempt to tip the balance of the vote.e one way or another that we know which way the leaker undoubtedly hopes, right. that this leaked opinion willoo drive activists to the court's doors where they were desperately bangingna on the doors during brett kavanaugh's confirmation hearing. and i thinkve that's going to have an impact on all the activists outside screamingt people, all the colorful sides that's going to have some impact that will have one of the justices in the majority change his or her vote. but once again, it looks like the left will just smash an established government process to get their wayay to anything in their power to stop a principled conservative a majority from issuing a ruling on a pending case. this leaker is going to be sorely disappointed and should be immediately discovered and disbarredred. joining me now, jonathan turley ,university law professor, fox news contributor and harmeet dhillon, civil rights attorney and ceo for the center for american liberty. we also hope to be joined by former doj lawyer james truste in justnt a moment. professor turley. i am this is one of those things i thought i would never see in my life. i'ven seen a lot in my time in washington. i've been here way too long. this is one of the most destructive things than i can ever imagine to happen to our legal system. take it away when we're all in disbelief. >> i've covered the court for y four years and iea teach a class on the supreme court and i really didn't think this dayth would come. that's a strange thing tong say in a city that literally floats on leaks, the only island and that sea they did not have leaks was the supreme court and it existed on a level of integrity that is all true foreign today in politics and to see people celebratingod today, this leak is perhaps the most disturbing thing of all. that it just seems that there's no or institutional value that can withstand this age of rage. what happened with this leak? caused lasting damage to the supreme court. he this i c think that the court will never be quite the same it hase it has always existed. as you said, laura , on an understanding of people of good faith that believed in that institution, believed truly in each other even thoughis they disagreed wholeheartedly in opinions. this was a malicious act and the only reason to leak it was to try to create external pressure to changee the position of the court and maybe encourage congress to passs this federal abortion law to try to federalize the abortion area. what's really quite about this , if anything, the justices are more likely to dig in the second grade below to the court would not just be after the leak itself would be if the justices did cave to external pressure. so this has turned everything into a morass. and what what this person did cheapens the institution to a degreest that is breathtakingi you know that i don't know why i maybe it was the last area off naiveté that i hadte left after years in washington, but i truly never thought we'd come to this moment. well, halmet to thi, we've been hearing now for the last year plus from democrats that they exist merely to really at this point to safeguard democracy. right. the other cables have been spending since january 6th. f d. they're the true guardians of democracy. all the institutions, allct the norms are being protected by joe biden and the left. what doat we see tonight with with this having happened? well, laura , i mean, there's so many thoughts going through my mind as a lawyer for the pro-life movement, as a constitutional lawyer and also somebody involved in politics.ve involved in politics this is a deeply political act ,laura , and i f think it was a aimed not only at legislation like you mentioned at undermining potentially the court's legitimacy and court packing, but also ital affecting the midterm elections. you know, the this issoid goingo be a talking point and advertisements that are being drafted as you and i arebe speaking tonight aboutut how it is important to vote for democrats to save women from back alley abortions, fill in the blank, et cetera, butan all of that is a lie. laura , i mean, this is i an insurrection level that if you talk about really insurrection against the court, but when you look at what this this opinion, if it turns out to be correct and i agree with professor turley that in honor and dignity the justices are likely to not change their votes. the ones who are honest n and stick with this opinion, it returns to the states, a decision that always should have been there and this draft opinion goes through the v analysis very weller that there never was a consensusus in this country about abortion. it a. doesn't fit in the jurisprudence of the 14th amendment when you look at the mississippi law itself, it provides exceptions for the life of the mother t and for significant fetal defects. so it isn'tnini evendefects. a n after the 15th week and so and you're going tok have a look at what the democrats have done on the political side in california. you have a bill in front of our assembly that talks about dead babies dying in a perinatal setting that is up to twenty eight days after birth that being protected from prosecution. so that they have gotten law after that and the roe v. wade more and more pronatalist extreme when the rest of world does not permit any of this . this is about abortion on demand.isbout this is utter fanaticism i and it's burned downs the court in order to try to get your way from the same crowd that claims to be the great protectors of our entire democratic system to barmaid's point professor, the author of that politico piece that leaked this supposed draft opinion. again, we don't know if it's draft opinion people think it is. we don't know. watch. spoke to msnbc tonight . >> watch this opinion that he's written, which is, you know, just a withering take down of the roe v. wade precedent. holp it pulls no punches at all.s pry it's pretty brutal and in the way it's structured, it kind of needs to be that way because of the way alito confronts this issue of a court precedent. stari decisis is the legal term . a lot of people thought the original roe opinion was brutal owas as well given what happened to 50 plus million babies. but in response to his comment ,professor? >> well,l, as you know, we as ai draft it can change. this was a fabulous draft. the votes can change, e.although whoever did this probably made that less likely. it does have elements opinion that do sound like justice alito. he hass spent his entire careero questioning the basisni for roe and casey. he was not alone, by the way, professor tribe at harvard called roe a smoke screen. you know, the late justice ginsburg said that she hadsa reservations about how roe was written. r so roeoe has really been a difficult path a for the court . it has been really subject to a series of five four decisions. often decisions-4 that were quie fractured, nuanced, beyond definition for some people. but the court has never been on terra firma. what this court would suggest i is that if it is in fact a legitimate craft that they have a secure five justice majority, it would make sense that alito would be picked if chief justice roberts was not initially in the majority, he might be going with a dissent or he mayy have decided if he could not sign with the majority. but the decisionmaty. itself has aspects to of the type of analysis we've seen from justice alito who does not believeite that this right is found in the constitution as opposed to resting with the states. >> we have former doj attorney james truste with us as well tonight . james, bernie sanders tweeted something moments ago saying congress must pass legislation a that codifies roe vs. wade as the law of the land and if there aren't 60 votes in the senate to do it and there are not, we musthe end the filibustr to pass it with 50 votes. well,,vo this seems like the gol of the leaker, jim . goal. i mean, this that seems prettyvi obvious at this point.ou i mean, alreadydy with the politics, the second this thingl dropped and politico is like almost like they had it planned ahead of time, almost like well, almost like they talk tos each other about what's coming. but if you kind of stolen my thunder and so is professor turley. i mean i gotfe. this heardha this notion that there was a leaked draft opinion and i'mtt wayly care which the opinion went. i thought to myself i can't use all the words that came upp in first. but i'll just tell you this is an outrageous historic moment to have a leak out of the supreme court, a trial balloon a or a warning shot, whatever you want to characterize it as . and i have two things t that lep to mind. one is what is one of the associate justices was involved in the leak. i mean, that magnifies an already historic, horrific moment into somethingc beyond belief and maybe as a as a possible way of deflecting from that concept. deflecting that. this supreme court needs to speak as one tonight or tomorrow morning and issue a statement that condemns the living out of what just happened. i don't care change. i take your point. p i want all of you to chime in here. to me it seems like the court needs to come out like an hour h agoou and immediately the chief justice should come out and issue a statement in the age of computers..do tha you can do that .t ie i understand that you can issue a statement saying this is on authorized obviously from the court and lay out the points as to why how this leaker must be found. and there has c to be consequences, harmeet, for this individual, whoever it was and we can guess their names floated out there, i'm notn going to say any names on television, but there are people who have been connected to the author of the piece and our current clerks again, i'm not going to get into it because we have no ideare what they're going to find out who they are. does any of you on television tonight deny that we will find out who leaked this opinion? any any of you think we will not know who leaked it? we'll find out. we'll find out who . >> what do you think? will they find out?>> i am hopee i'm hopeful that we can . c i know that chief justiceic roberts is going to doe everything he can. this is the greatest crisis not just of his career but of any modern chief justice. i mean, this is the sort of original sin of judicial ethics. it does not get worse. and i think that when youme mentioned what is the courtnk doing, i think chief justice roberts has been meeting nonstop with the marshals and others to sees how they'rere the culprit here.and god hav and you know, god have mercy h that soul because the court will have notav this is the wort type of t attack you can launch against the integrity of the united states supreme court . yeah, james, the chief justice, as most justices from rehnquist when i clerked to the current chief justice, they're there and they believe that their role is to safeguard the court for future generations and we heard a lot about the legitimacy of the court after kavanaughcy after justice thomas for whom i clerkednf his confirmation afterir the casey decision after after lawrence v. texas all these cases, the legitimacy of the court is called into i question. what about now? so the justice chief justice, it'snow incumbent upon him to bring every law clerk before him. give me your phone. sorry. i'm sorry. or the fbi. give me your phone. we want all your accounts. we've got we got to do our own you know, we have to do our own look atnd every device that you've ever used and find out who did this . james, the fbi expert here tell me what could be done. >> yeah, well, i hope our fbi i is not as politicized as it's been in recent years at the top' .po but look,k,al i'm goingte to pon alternative theory. we're talking about theory. how, there's a logical steps in the exact right, appropriately aggressive steps that the chiefs justice should take with federal law enforcement. my alternative theory here and this is very jaded, i admit, and it's ground zerof here, but what if this person i is treated as as heroic whistleblower by the left? i mean, i think it's quite possible that this person is going to be front page of the newspapers, the big hero who tried to put the brakes c on changes to roe versusha wade there'll be great celebration and great rewriting of history aboutis how this was such a necessary moment to stand up against evil. see all of that happening which is thoroughly depressing the end of the court care aboutt the institution. yeah, that's the end of the court if that happens and they're telling me i got to go to the next discussion. but jonathan, if that happens, if the leaker is celebrated as i think james and harm alluded to, closure are never going to be able to have this role at the court that they have now, they're never going to be able to have access to opinions. >> i don't know what will happen in the court period if p that's the case. will it's not going to change, not just change the courtrt is going to change who we are as a country that we lionize someone who abandons every principle and value that they swore toso upholdme. if we've reached that point, our problems go beyond t the court itself. it's an excellent point. i thinkk that court i was just going to say we are at that point i think that is absolutely what's going to happen here. it isical political and if the chief justice doesn't come t out with a second statement, a statement was already made tonight just before he went on the air, the court had no comment. yeah. so comment the court had no or c catastrophe. yeah,nt so much bigger than i mean roe versus wade is itself a hugewa decision obviously. and we'll get to the implications. but this what happenedk, with this leak, people have to understand things will never be the same again in our judicial branch unless dramatic actions are taken and it's got to happen fast. panel, thank you .he now this is just the latest escalatory step taken by the left, as i said, to tear down our norms, our institutions, our traditions. and i don't think the voters are on board with what the left is doing. c joining me now, chris rufo,ta manhattan institute senior fellown , an attorney, kirchlechner chris , now this issue of ever what activism is is fine. we celebrate activists. doesn't matter what you believe. you're out there, you're having a legitimate exchange of ideas. no problem. what does this say to you about the level of desperate nation on the left? as what we've seen it for the last two years.. i mean, the left did a two billionn dollars in damage burned down entire city blocks after the death of george floyd in twenty twenty . and it's really been on a r steamrolling effect. they use any kind of justification, any kind of scapegoating mechanism to justify behavior that is pushing those edges that ise going and transgressing those boundaries. this isn't a surprise to me, but i think what really has to happen is that conservatives and especially those justicesav on the supreme court have to hang tough, have to stick to their principles and cannot back down to this intimidation. weimidation. all have to come t, push back and reestablish those boundariesh if we want to keepy our country. kirt earlier tonight , rachel maddow seemed to suggest that this leak was worth watch . >> it is shocking, as you said as we started discussing here. it'sg shocking both in substance and it is also shocking in terms of what ite means abot the court and what it means about the stakes here that someone was willing to do this . it is just j a remarkable thing. remarkable. imagine if this was a thought to be aim concern of law clerk o leak something in a case that the liberals were allou thrilled about. imagine what rachel and the crowd would be saying tonight . kurt o. i cann imagine laura and i think we all know that they'd be rather upset. we've been hearing for h over almost a year and a half a about attacks on our democracy and insurrection. this did d more damage than a bunch of elderly trump voters taking selfies in the rotunda. n >> weda the actual decision itself is is huge. it's probably the most important decision since plessy vs.an ferguson was overturnedve by brown versus boardrt. as in that case, the democrats u are very, very upset about it. but i think you're right, focusing on the procedural aspects, the institutional aspectsfol and i don't and frankly, i think there are a lot of former conservative voices we can't count on . i'm waiting for david frenches, the conservative case from leaking draft opinions to come out and explain why we're wrong.g. on every disasterr level. the court needs to come together in unanimity against this and we need to go back to basic principles, basic functions and norms of our institutions and i'm afraid that that's unlikely to happenen at this point. >> yeah, i was a thinking p abot tonight is justice breyer now obviously is retiring. he's been a he's been a stalwart champion of a more liberal judicial activism . fhe court i've had the chance to meet him a few times as always, nothing but pleasant and nice.ve and each time i speak to him, very genteel individual. i mean, what what is tonighting tonight ? this is the court he's leavingrt behind regardless of what he thinks about the outcome. i mean, there are tons of o outcomes, chris , over the lastt 40 years that conservatives were disgusted by and i talked and wrote about most of them. but the idea that anyone would celebrate the smashing of the court protocol that goes back a hundred yearshat, the stt of the court, the modern court i can't imagine this is just tonight . no>> is not. butn this is something we've seen on the left, as you note for the last 50 years, hard left activists, including marxist intellectualsa really run a long march through the institutions and their theory is very simple.e.we get our we get our people intoth the institutions. itutions fro we change those institutions from within within. we violate democratic norms. we go in an anti-democratic process simply by dominating the bureaucracies. they believe they can do ace same thing with the courtss as they've done to universities and other prestige institutions' and fortunately to a certain extent it's working. that iswhy conservatives havee to adapt. we have to come up with new strategies and tactics to start pushingba back on the left institutional dominance before they reallyt taking this democratic shell and then wereng whatever they on inside out. it's become their pattern and it's by any means necessary whatever they have to do, whether it's ripping down a statue orst or smashing of andino in the head or at or blowing up sex education in school and turning into d something very different, they'll do it and i'll say, oh , you're ano y outlier w fort complaining about it. that's's what's happening tonight with this leak. the court and current this the 2019 new york times piece reminded everybody that back in the 80s it was senator joe biden who supposedly a devout catholic, voted to let states overturn roe vs. wade so that's just that is a pretty goodtt indicator, is it not, kurt, of how far the democrat party has shifted to the most radical partial birth abortion abortion on demand position on this issues many cultural issues? >> i'm not surprised at all.>> , laura . they've beenn going more extreme and more extreme and more extreme over the years. extreme right now o we have a supreme court nominee who wouldn't admit that she knew what aom woman was where if it's not a nominee, she's a she is. she is. and new justice on the supreme court. sh she's not anymore. wishful thinking, everybody. yeah, and notably not a biologist. look,io i don't want to take it too far, but i had the privilege of serving our country and i served in places where the institutions failed and where neighbor killed neighbor and i worryle about our country because if power is the only currency, you're not going to have one side stick with the old status quo while the other ones run rampant. all right. it's not going to happen. n we need to get back to the principle. stitution a the constitution is there. itus gives us the framework all we have to do is be wise enough to reimburse it. well, w here's the problem, chris , is that our kids are being taught in school in some cases that the constitution is structurally racist. so if you're dealing with a structurally racist document written by some good writers but they were racist to a lot of them, the founders and the framers then you know, so the speaker is actually a hero s in that story. that'sto the problem. and that goes back to what you demonstrated, chris , with what was happening with crtv in theha schools right? that >> yeah, that's exactly right. and the technique is this if you delegitimize the country's founding, if you delegitimize the country's constitutionfo and if you delegitimize that country's history, you can take kidsthei and then adula in any direction that you want.y and so we're entering unfortunately almost a post constitutional phase in the minds of many peopleth who believe that the constitution is an old document that have held racist values. and when that disappears, when that commitment is evaporated,te you enter veryr dangerous and very scary territory dan. and i'm afraid we've takento another step in that direction tonight . panelni. thank you both. now here now is republican candidate for pennsylvania senateda david mccormick david. now this issue because politics we're off the court now into politics with because this issue of life for o the pennsylvania voters has h been really important for yearsy and years and years. there used to be pro-lifes democrats. casey, thank you very much. and your your chief competitor, dr. ozit, differencs on that issue, your reaction to tonight's news? >> well, first, as you were just saying, what an earth w shattering breach of trust that is just further evidence of an assault on our institution. so it's a really an ass scary ad day that we would see this happen in our supreme court. and then second is just this is if in fact the decision of the court turns out to be what w was in thisas brief, this would be a huge step forward and ad huge victoryan for the protectin of life, which is certainly where the conservative and republican party is in pennsylvania in a number of democratsli a. and this is an issue on the campaign trail. it's already been a flashpoint . i'm someone who's pro-life, has been pro-life and this is something where my my primary competitor mehmet ozg wh three three months three years ago to this month had spoken out on avi breakfast club interview about his concerns about this very scenario that if roe v. wade v was overturned that the. states would put in more restrictive policies regarding abortion, more pro-life policies. and sofe p this isolic a flashps this is something the voters of pennsylvania talk about and it's within the context i t the broader culture war that you're speaking of this push by the extreme left, whether it's the question of transgender transitions in schools or whether it's t the history that's being taught about americaeing, these are all flashpoints where parents and voters in pennsylvaniant aro feeling like the extreme left is taking our country in a dangerous, dangerousurand direce that's going to erode the very foundation of our country. youe david, think about you're obviously a west point graduate . you're an army ranger. you served our country in uniform based on the principles that america was worth defending that america's principles were worth in some cases even exporting abroad. and we hope other countries can be as free and loves but whfounding as we do. but when we stopen loving our or institutions, our separation ofs powers, , the courts a confidentiality is all part of that wrapped up into that narrative. then what we're going to save ukraine? o. i don't think so. ourselvesdon't love first. no, i couldn't agree more . and the the, the recognition that we live in the most exceptional country in the world that it's been been the leader in terms of creating liberty, prosperity, humanre rights, equality relative to anyone else in the world with all our challenges and mistakes that recognition is being lost and weco see it being chipped away wherewh people, americans, pennsylvanians no longer truster their leadership and their institutions. and you know, a lot more about the supreme court than i do.ut but that was always on such s hallowed grounduc, was always viewed as a place where where our institutionut was pure and and regardless of the decisions, as you've saide a and here we see a breach of trust that calls the very integrity of that institutionst into question.n. and it's it's very difficult to see. but as partee of a broader trend ,as you and i have discussed, david, this issue is going to be very important in two weeks a r the big primary. there are a lot of candidates running, but if you and face to face, i think that's going to be it. you and i'm sure we'll have you back before then. thank you , david. thbring it on . that's the focus of tonight's . gle >> importantly, she says there is no scientific debate when it comes to the big picture. >> there is no argument about the value and the importance off gender affirming here. there is no argument. now forget her being political liability to the democrats. rachel levine isocra first and foremost a liar. there's no argument among medical professionals about subjecting miners to this complete barbarity or that false transition affirming therapies are virtually untested and inflict lasting harmallyla. and instead of providing o parents with medical informationf p and evidence basd studies, parents are frequently pressured into accepting these risky treatments on behalf of their children hasn't been tested from childhoodhe forward medications are being used off label without proper fda risk assessment profile. this whole thing is p an i experiment on childrensp and let's drop the misleading euphemisms gender affirming care goes beyond boys wearing dresses and girls changing their names. it can include barbaric surgery to remove reproductive organs and hormones to block puberty. now according to biden's hhs, gender affirming care includes so social affirmationgo at any age puberty blockers during puberty and hormone therapy starting during earlypy adolescence irreversibleve surgery is quote typically used in adulthood or case by case in a case by case basisas in adolescence. okay, this is according to hhss . a case you know what i think what is a case by case basis? on what basis are theseis exceptions made for the adolescents to get the surgery? and i'm going to guess it's a totality of circumstances test meaning the language is vague enough to allow for gender reassignment surgery on demand regardlessnt of the ae now passed across america are shocked at the breakneck speed that basic truths institutions are coming under assault the united states we're talking about what's happening at the court t tonight when they se a biological boy playing women or girls in a sport.sp most parents are horrified. they're outraged the same way that they feel when i see schools pushing and gender identity discussions on little kids, the way my ability to parent my even before i had any knowledge,e i didn't i even get to showfo support. you ask for support.r i didn't get a chance. your job was to educate my child in math, science, english, etc. do your jobdo and let me do my the novel concept doing your job.>> you have the democrats biden's numbers cratering among almost every demographic group. back. they're determined to fight back for a little bit of that tonight. at the core, don'tsait o think they've convinced themselves that forcing their fringe ideas on the nation no matter what they have to do to do that will ultimately pay off. and in the meantime, they talk to everybody else as outlierst holding back what is the proper pro-growth again, as i mentioned tonight , we learned in this politico piece that the court has voted apparently to h strike down roe vs. wade coming from this leaked draft of an opinion from s the court, which again is a breach that has never occurred in the history of the supreme court.. and by the way, the ruling isth just merely going toe send the abortion issue back to the states. the idea that the us constitution ever prohibited states from regulating or even outlawing if they deemed appropriate, the procedure was total legal fantasy from day one . it was totally made up. the left is going in the stratosphere or tonight they're going nuts. they know their entire facade, u everything they fought for. this is the guy that the hill that they'll die. re worried they're worried that's all going to come crumbling downto and i think that somehow this leak is going to be a gift that could rescue them forer the midterms. well, the thinking is misguidedm . what the american people areth saying about some of the other hot topics out there. some of them were discussing the gender identity and education, of course, the so-called anti-racism ideology and crt influencefl in schools. how about the diversityue inclusion as my favorite acronym, the orthodoxy in college admissions in corporate america, the attacks on law enforcement, the abortion industrial complex that's screaming out tonight , trans athletes and women's sports . >> my fiveve year old is beingng>> peddled transgender books in her library. teenagers are being served underer the guise of young adulu literature. do something be a leader l because if you know what the citizens of this county deserve better as we saw ater thursday's town hall in orlando, republican governors like ron desantis in are fighting back wh success even against some bigat corporations. so i want everyone to do well, but i i'm not comfortable having one company with their own government and special privileges when that company has pledged itself to attacking parents in my state when that company when that company has very highrs a people talking about investing transsexualism into programing for youngkin, it's wrong. wit walt disneyh y would not want that . and so get back to the mission . y d do what you did. great. that's why people love the companye and you've lost your way. t maybe this will be the wake up call that they need to get back on track. >> i never>> got a chance to see the recorded that was pretty wild. but the white house think about that . they're fresh out of ideas. so what they decided to do is to wind up old biden and send them out to snap back aggressively. >> today there are too manyk. politicians trying to score political points trying to bann books, devcon math books. yo would youun ever think a younger teacher you ever think we should be worried about book burningsbu banning books all because it doesn't fit some political agenda to stop making the target of the culture wars. cul baby joe was sleepingtu over the past 40 years but his loyalists succeeded y in removing some of america's classic literary works over that time books like huck finn of mice and men to kill a mockingbird those are being taken out of schools, core curriculum across the united statesed s so youtate gots. the teachers uy right. they're fighting not for great literature but against any memory of american traditionalism or excellence, even patriotism. and remember the american federation of teachers, its fighters go to cash cow the unions, by the way,, they did more damage to children by supporting than we'reockdowns ever going to know if they could remain virtual forever, i think they would have if thereave. are problems and shortages, then either some schools are closing in those districts or those districts are taking a pass. >> it's not a matter of we don't want to be there is c that wean can't stay there testing mass vaccinations, proper ventilation, our schools ,most of them don't have thoseve basic things waiting for that ventilation plan to gon back to work over a weekend we were in florida and then other parts which we'll talk about later.hers but mothers, fathers, they were coming up to, us saying t never stop fighting for us , please. it's always gratifying to hear from you. ow bad i had no idea, frankly, how bad things have gotten with the schools until covid ifn the biden administration is just doubling down i on theiron failure and radicalism and all of these cultural issues and this means democrats are standing against more traditional parents and just common sense a parents i think at this point who just oft politics out the classroom. but democrats, they're finding some new stars out there. so who amth i ? i am a straight white christian , married suburban mom who knows that the very notionon that learning about slavery or redlining or systemic racism somehow meansht that children are being taught to feel bad or hate themselves becauselecau they are white is absolute nonsense. i want everywh child in this state to feel seen, heard and supported, not marginalized and targeted because they are not straight, whiteot and christiann. the new yorker is calling her a role model for the midterms. it's not move over because a liberal karen with a headband is coming the spotlight. she's part joy reid, part jen psaki telling david remnicks if democrats don't stand up and fight back , the republicansgh are going to put forward people who may not support our having free and fair elections ever again. she hadn't heardag aboutain. what the court yet. now, don't you love it though? and liberals spout these spurious concerns aboutls democracy one minute then they support limiting free speech o and next and leaking stuff from the court. these people are the anti democrats and their thinking is as flatin as singing misinformation herself. nina jankowicz to rank partisano yet some she's put in charge of the dhs disinformation office. now guess what misinformation called purveyors of disinformation at the start of the pandemic. okay, those who question the handling of covid were the onesan pushing outup the disinformation according to her . you know, tio a the whole wheat market origin theory that was ridiculous in the beginning. well, it turns out her commentary on kovács origins trackeded china's remarkably well. again, the labeling theory is still the most plausible explanation of its origins. always has. but tiktok princess, she doesn't care that holde your breath for fact checks on china. the democrats new millennial culture warrior will spend her time scolding conservative media wil with a karaoke accompaniment. so will any of us work this in your face defense of the stuff that they've been trying to hide from parents and taxpayers for all these years, these attacks on the first amendment?? >> even now the supreme court's legitimacy. all i'll say is republican campaign managers and their candidates across america tonight are thrill about the democrats new strategy. so bring it on . for for too long the gop establishment has runto like scared little sisters from i the cultural issues. those critical issues of the day. they prefer to focus on the safe issues like economic and tax policy. that's not enough. the f not without the issues that touch the formation of our children. our own children, our hearts, the sanctf their bodies, the safety of our streets. the democrats have reminded us theseow critical issues are. so let's hope the gop doesn't forget those lessons d and thate the angle. . all right. joining me now is dr.r.ing me mw cartela, a pediatrician and former executive director of the american collegeor of pediatricians. dr. crtv, let's start with what i started with dr. levine because there is no argument among medical professionalshe about the value of, quote, gender affirming care, which is a term just made up not too long ago. your response l? r. lev well, i guess dr. levine hasn't really been paying attention tof the medical literature the last few years. there's been a huge international debate among is psychiatry as well as medicine . in fact, the u.k., france, u.k., sweden, and finland, have a sweden and finland have all taken a far more conservative approach to gender dysphoria in children as compared to the u.s.. they're highly restrictive in fact. and the reason is, well, twofold. tw first of all, we know that the vast majority of young children will y outgrow their gender dysphoria or their discomfort with their biological sex either through watchful waiting or accompanying them with counseling that treats underlying underlying emotional issues. and this is a very doctor i jump on it, but we're limited because of all the breaking news and this is a huge debate say judicious use lying. she is lying by saying there is no debate. yeah, they lied about a lot of i issues. they say settled that you can never talk about themin again. if you post about them, you'll be banned on social media. but what you're saying is>>au that and dr paul mchugh, of course, at johns hopkins didst the most groundbreaking research. he's now almost 90 , i believe, but he's most groundbreaking research on this with the adults. >> yes, what we are most concerned about in children is that when you're dealingth w with puberty blockers, crosschecks, hormones and surgeries, you are talking about c han sterilizing permanel sterilization, dysfunctioniz, giving these kids chronic diseases as adult strokes, heart disease, diabetes and cancerseart, this is not something that you rush headlong n into. this is not something that you promote as safe and effective. the science is absolutely not there, not by any stretch of the imagination and here and in the u.s. there are two organizations the american college of pediatriciansth, whih is has clearly presented science that refutes what what the biden administration is f putting forth and change the science. they're not listening to them. no, they're not they're not society for evidence based gender medicine has refuted r the biden administration's document practically line by line that this is devastating. we will make sure to get thatwe information on my website. you we'll have you on the podcast too to go to we'll have more time to talk about all these issues. but doctor , you give us some amazing perspective tonight . thank you . and up next , the craziest moments from the weekendthank ye white house correspondents dinner to nancy pelosi and kiv raymond arroyo. >> has it all seen and unseen next ? only by sorting through two centuries of friction. remember the man who can help shape the nation we became so the british was going to roll with these guys to show what we really made a americans don't retreat. they were 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at that leaked ruling from politico tonight regarding roe vs. waderu. their outrage is not about the leak. so outrage about what's in the decision which of course returns the issue of abortion to the states doesn't outlaw abortion. it returns it to the states. joining us now, raymond arroyo. raymond, we're going to we're going to get to your cell. well, this is a big it ishi the biggest case a lots is big and important breaking news. and i have toew say watching this or it's hard not to think that this is all part of anf orchestrated idea and a plan. you leak the document, then you send in all of your activists to protest tovi createst the impression that the countrys is opposed to what the court is handing down. butor the truth is for many, may decades before roe v. wade was decided, it wasde the law of the land that the states outlawed abortion to a great extent. and i have to say reading alito ,if it is indeed alito's ruling when you read it, it does give you pause since nineteen seventy three, the largest protest movemente in american history has been b taking to the streets of this city, raising up the voices of people whose voices couldn't be heard. and now almost 50 years later to see this decision drop, it's an historic moment droppedom and but but it's about to be ort we assume it is given this opinionth. but what has happened in thathat interim is the rise of materne and child care centers all over this country that are already for this decision.rops. when it drops, we have those centers that we didn't have before crisis pregnancy centers and maternal care centers. and there's a sensitivity and a caring now for mothers s and pregnant that we have to say was not there in 1973. it is in place today. this is the culmination in many ways of justt like the civil rights movement. ititfu came from a prayerful grp of dedicated i and it kind of extends from what we talkingte about in the annual tonight , which is people say you're doing the culture war . no, no, no, no, no. this isn't the culture you're seeing what the people are doing in front of the court. they're exercising their first amendment rights, which we believe are protected and they are protected by our t first amendment because we have a first amendment and that first amendment is has been upheld in most cases by the supreme court of the unitedis states. how ironic they're exercising their rights. yet the undergirdin of so much what's happening on the left is to demonize a delegitimize the founders, the framers, the declaration independence, the constitution. t they yet they're enjoying the very liberties that they say stemll from a structurally racist document. if you have none ofcu this makes any sense but those prayerful protest and they're out and they're out practicingnse? their right to life right and right. they had that right was insured by their parents and given to them. the court is now saying let's let every state decide whether t this ishi what it was obvious an issue that was never settled. i mean, they said, oh , this is now settled law. what ? peopl one hundred and twenty thousand people showed up at the marche y for life every year even in freezing weather. horrible freezin their great we. and this was a young person's movement to which i think it'sut a religious movement. right. but a young person's movement and i know i've been talking tof a number of people in law enforcement who said those law clerksor would be lined up tomorrow by the chief justice. they should be interrogated by the fbiin and him. and if someone doesn't stand out and say, i did it, they should all be laid off and find new clerks, maybe they might have to. i don't know how else you purge the ranks off the leakerea in the middle of this in the middle of the supreme court and the disdainre realization oi one of our precious institutions, our former texasas democratic gubernatorial candidate remember her wendy pink sneakers davis and pinke sneakers. she had this to say. t what willhi the ripple impact of livese not only in the >> laura: everyone has to remember tonight before everybody freaks out that this w going to be determined by you, the people. like you can live in new york and new york did that standing ovation in albin a. you want to know what sick is, it's not safe, legal and rare appeared in the door to have a standing ovation until the baby is out of the womb. they still give the standing ovation for the most liberal abortion law, i believe in the united states is new york. they gave it a standing ovation. okay that is what the people in new york want. people in mississippi want something different and that is how the framers understood our country. it was not one size >> the favorite line on this issue. >> i found it astonishing and appalling that the basic legal claim here is that the word abortion doesn't appear in the constitution. and of course, it would appear to be an invitation to have handmaid's tale type antifeminist regulation and legislation all over the country. >> oh, my gosh. >> laura: is he not speaking as a former embryo? that is my question. >> when and dealt, site margaret thatcher.wi >> they tried that with brett kavanaugh. >> marching around. look, this is theodore, alabama and the leak is part of that. what you see on the streetsiv tonight, this is performative theater. step back. everybody has to take a big breath. let the court issued its final opinion. then, we as a country can digest it. i don't like that this is leaked out. this is a bad day for democracy, damaging democracy. thisis is one of the most damagg moments our democracy right here when a major institution has been breached and undermined. i hope as a congressional -- >> laura: no, they are too busy. this is my question i'm aware is liz cheney tonight? sheiz supposedly is a strong conservative. maybe she is outai and said something that i may be missed. but again,ou if you truly care about these institutions that the writers which weakened him that took down those barricades and injured those police officers, we were against that. and we said so and i tweeted that. butut what about this? to all of you guardians of democracy? guardians of democracy. maybe they should show up. maybe they could come out tonight. >> the barricades are up here the barricades are up around the supreme court. the moment it leaked and politico, the barricades came up. john roberts knew what would happen next and we are watching it unfold. let's hope this doesn't create pressure that changes the vote in a properly enhanced constitutional law. >> laura: i'm o telling you come again, i say this in ancient history, but what i'm trying to say, that was the first thing we were told. when we walk through those doors, that was the first thing the justice told us. you leak something out of here, and you are gone. your career is over. and a bunch of us were texting each otherr tonight. and i had forgotten that until they reminded me that, oh, my gosh, i remember. it wasn't even a question. >> this is the rev a politicalization of a court and it should not be allowed to. >> laura: they politicized it and it's being done all over again. raymond, we will see you on the other segments later in the week. up next, ryan fallon put out a tweet and a lot more coverage coming up. ♪ ♪ >> carley: a fox news alert, based on a new report unprecedented supreme court leak rocking the nation. political obtaining a to draft court opinion to strike down roe vs. wade. republicans are accusing a liberal law clerk of leaking the document to intimidate justices in order to change the outcome of the r

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