>> they are not listening to the border communities. this is not good for democrats. >> we'll ask texas border democrat what the white house is telling him about the rising tensions over lifting title 42. plus house republicans bullish on big wins in november. >> it is going to be a landslide for republicans. >> but newly-shared audio shows what republican leaders may have planned to tell then president trump after the capitol riots. >> it would be my recommendation [inaudible]. >> we will ask republican congressman mccall about the political calculations and party leadership heading into midterms. and a leaked memo indicates senator bernie sanders is open to another white house bid in 2024, if biden does not run. we will ask our sunday panel about the politics behind the leak and whether voters still feel the bern. and just hours from now, polls close in france in a presidential election that could reverberate around the west and into ukraine. all right now on "fox news sunday". hello again from fox news. the white house finding itself in a political bind just ahead of midterms, over its decision to lift title 42 by this time next month. the administration had used the public health order as a tool to deport migrants coming across the border during the pandemic. now a growing number of democrats want it to stay in place over fears the administration is not prepared for a summer surge from the south. in a moment, we will speak with one of those democrats, representing a south texas border district and republican michael mccall ranking member of the house foreign affairs committee. we begin with fox team coverage. bill melugin is live in texas for us with more on the growing migrant crisis there, but first to our reporter at the white house. >> hi, sandra. right now the biden is struggling to find balance on a range of issues with earth day, climate action is once again a key flashpoint. the administration is hoping to fulfill promises there, but inflation and global energy needs are complicating that. >> get some of these bills to my desk. >> from washington state friday, president biden urged lawmakers in washington, d.c. to get moving on climate action. >> this is a matter of national security. >> but so is the war in europe. because of it, the u.s. has banned russian oil and gas imports, but treasury secretary yellen said this week the european union following suit may do more harm than good. >> counterintuitively it could actually have very little negative impact on russia because although russia might export less, the price it gets for its exports would go up. >> following a meeting with ukraine's prime minister, president biden announced thursday an additional 800 million dollars in military aid. >> sometimes we will speak softly and carry a large javelin because we are sending a lot of those in as well. >> according to a latest poll on the subject, americans find inflation and the war on ukraine to be the most urgent issues facing this country, but 9% of those polls put immigration at the top. the biden administration is standing by the decision to drop a trump era public health measure called title 42 that allowed the u.s. to expel migrants to their home countries during the pandemic. now 47 democrats are pushing for a delay. >> in talking to some of my republican colleagues, they are saying we can't believe the white house is giving us this narrative. >> on border states who have democrats in highly competitive races right now simply don't want the president's immigration policy to work against them. sandra? >> thank you reporting live from the white house for us. thank you. let's turn to bill melugin on the border in eagle pass, texas. bill? >> sandra, already a very busy morning here in eagle pass. you can see the activity behind us. a large group of venezuelans just crossed over illegally and being processed by border patrol. it's been nearly 48 hours since a texas national guard soldier disappeared in the rio grand in an effort to try to save illegal immigrants in the water. his body hasn't been recovered. he's presumed to have drowned. his family has been notified. now the texas rangers report that the two illegal immigrants he jumped into try to save were both struggling drugs at the time of the incident. this as illegal crossings here are non-stop. in eagle pass, texas, it is a scene that plays out every morning. just after sunrise, migrants make their move, wading across the rio grand, entering the u.s. illegally, and they continue to come from all around the world. they come in historic numbers. cpb in march alone, 220,000 migrant encounters highest number in two decades. the river could be deadly. fox news witnessed the bodies of multiple drowned migrants being pulled from the water. on the international bridge of eagle pass as may 23rd looms, groups of migrants are expelled back to mexico every 30 minutes. across the rio grand in a mexican city, groups of migrants are waiting. >> translator: my hope is for now i get granted permission to cross with my son on the 23rd. >> in the rio grande valley sector, agents found this 2-year-old boy abandoned. since october, there have been a staggering 38,000 of these unaccompanied children found in that sector. and sandra, tomorrow house minority leader kevin mccarthy will be bringing a republican delegation down to the border, actually right here at eagle pass where we are. they will be meeting with border patrol as well as texas dps both agencies prepare for the drop of title 42 next month. later in the week, dhs secretary will be testifying about the border before the house judiciary committee. republicans say they have a lot of questions for him. back to you. >> bill melugin reporting from the southern border for us, bill, thank you. joining us now from texas is congressman from there. welcome back. thank you. >> thank you. good morning to you. >> the white house saying there are no plans now to extend title 42 saying it is following cdc guidance on this. you represent border communities in congress. they are directly affected by this. the number of people coming over our border as of march already staggering numbers, averaging more than 7,000 a day. government models predict that could swell to as many as 18,000 a day if this is lifted. what are you telling the white house that you want to see happen here? >> we're dealing in the laredo sector, in the valley sector is about 60% of the men and women in green are not on the field, not at the border, but they are actually at the border processing centers. think about this. it is like having a school and we're only teaching with 40% of the teachers, and the other 60% are not teaching. that's what we're seeing except it's law enforcement. what we're seeing is large numbers coming in. the messages are going out to the smugglers and to the migrants is that on may 23rd, you can go ahead and come in, and border patrol is only working with 40% of its men and women. that provides as a very difficult situation at the border. >> you and other texas democrats have shared your concerns with this white house. are they listening? >> you know, we've told them, but they said they are going to continue with title -- you know, lifting the title 42. but the thing is, yes, they're listening to the immigration activists, but my question is, who is listening to the men and women in green and in blue? and more importantly, who is listening to the border communities, the sheriffs, the landowners, you know, the rest of the people that live on the border? yesterday i was in roma where they found the 2-year-old young kid, and i was in roma and i was with a lot of people there, not only public officials but other folks, and none of them said yes, go ahead and lift title 42. none of them said open up the border. they're very concerned because they are on the front lines, and they are the ones that i think we need to listen to. we need to listen to the border communities. >> so is it your take then, congressman, that this white house is ceding too much power to the cdc on immigration? >> you know, itle 42 it is a health issue. but it is all interrelated. you know, this message of lifting title 42 is going to go straight to the criminal organizations. and remember, the last six months, there were over a million encounters, and that doesn't even include the getaways. you multiply that by an average of $8,000, that's over 8 million dollars -- 8 billion dollars that they made, and that doesn't even include drugs. so it's a message that's going out there, and what makings it difficult is you've got people from cuba, venezuela, nicaragua, and the problem is those countries are not being have been cooperative. we try to return those folks. we got to extend the perimeter. the u.s. mexico border should not be the one yard line. we need to make sure that if somebody passes through our country, where they can ask for humanitarian relief or they can ask for asylum, then they need to stay in those countries instead of passing countries all the way up here to the border and pass countries that can provide them asylum and relief, but they only think the only place they can get asylum is in the united states. >> you are sharing your concerns, and axios is reporting homeland security secretary mayorkas privately told members of congress that he's concerned about how this white house is handling this issue. have you heard concerns directly from him or from anyone at dhs? >> i have simply heard concerns from the men and women down here at the border. they are very very concerned because, you know, the plan has some good parts, but the other part of the plan as to how to deal with title 42 being lifted is they are talking about erecting more border processing centers. they're talking about adding more medical officials down here. they're talking about transportation, so the metrics that's being used is how do you move the migrants from the border over to the interior of the united states? i mean, look at even san antonio, that's 150 miles away. they're getting people from eagle pass to rio, laredo, going over there, and they're getting about 200 people dropped off at the bus station every day. they're getting about 3 to 500 people dropped off at the airport. do the math. that's only one city away from the border. so it's starting to feel -- people are -- communities are starting to feel the impact that we see here at the border. being 1,500 miles away from the border is very different being here at the border. and yesterday i was with three border sheriffs and other folks, they do not want to see title 42 lifted. so who is listening to the border communities is my question? >> there's a big meeting happening tomorrow at the white house. the congressional hispanic caucus will be meeting with president biden about this. where do they stand on this? do you expect a tense conversation? >> well, i think there's about two members of the hispanic congressional delegation. it's myself and congressman gonzales who is also at the border that feel that title 42 should be -- stay in place. and the rest of them are going to say go ahead and lift it. but again, my question is this, how can you ask for international travelers to make sure they have -- they are vaccinated or even show the covid-19 negative test if they fly in, how can we have the emergency federal public emergency extended to july 15th and say there's a pandemic going on in the united states, but at the border, everything's fine, and just let people in into the united states? those are just mixed messages. >> final question on title 42, multiple states with republicans attorneys general are suing to keep title 42 in place, congressman. do you think there are people inside of this biden white house maybe hoping the white house loses on this issue to provide some cover for them to say that a judge is forcing them to keep 42 in place? >> absolutely. absolutely. there is a debate. if you talk to more of the career folks, they will tell you that they want to keep title 42. but you got some folks with a lot of immigration activists experience that feel the other way. i think that will give them a cover without a doubt and maybe even congress, if we can add that amendment to the covid relief bill could provide that cover. >> all right, meanwhile, while american families still deal with spiking inflation, particularly high gas prices, the biden administration says it will resume selling new drilling leases on public lands this week. all this after a court overturned a biden executive action from last year that you, sir, criticized saying banning responsible leasing would cost jobs and gdp growth. but the president's climate envoy john kerry says he hopes this move is temporary and that companies are sitting on a lot of leases already. here he is this week. >> i think that the president knows that many of these leases that have been granted are simply not going to be drilled in. >> i suppose there wouldn't be much worry then, but do you agree? is he right? >> you know, certainly one of the things that we're seeing is that, you know, we have to be energy independent, and look, look, we need to understand one thing, our companies are doing a much better job than other companies outside the united states and other countries, so we need to make sure we do it in a clean way, but i understand that if we're sitting there, so what is the concern? let's go ahead and allow that opportunity to do the [inaudible] so we can have jobs here and certainly make sure we don't depend on another country when it comes to energy. we do a much better job at producing energy, and again, we have to make sure we take a balance of that for our economy and for our independence. >> that's just one area. another area where we are seeing many democrats break with this biden white house on multiple fronts, and now based on the president's most recent polling, looking out into november, do you think democrats control of the house is in jeopardy this fall, congressman? >> you know, certainly as a democrat, i'm going to do everything to make sure that the democratic majority stays. we do have some head winds as you know. and again, we got to make sure that we're all working together, and right now some of the actions by the administration is not helping democrats. certainly in south texas, when it comes to oil and gas, when it comes to immigration policies, that has an impact on it, but as a democrat, i certainly want to keep the democratic majority. >> congressman, the president and several cabinet members went on the road this week to pitch the new infrastructure law to voters ahead of the midterm elections, but some democrats are saying, it is not resonating, including senator mark kelly who says people get the idea infrastructure spending helps but says, quote, i know people don't focus on that. they focus on what else is the next problem. it is the rising cost of gasoline. so congressman, how do you campaign on the successes democrats have had this cycle when voters are mostly focused on these big problems? >> well, it depends on what part of the country you're at because in my area, infrastructure's very important. for example, laredo is the largest in-land port, so infrastructure is very important, so we got to look at every district and see what's important to that district and campaign on that. yes, infrastructure's important, but there's the issues of border issues that are very important to us, and certainly energy being an energy district is key to us also. so you look at the district and campaign on that area, or if you're a senator, look at the state itself. >> all right. congressman, a lot going on, and also an investigation that we have been following, a statement was put out by your attorney saying this week that you were not the target of an fbi investigation after your home was raided by officers in january? are you involved at all in any ongoing investigation, sir? >> well, look, you know, i have deep respect for law enforcement. i got three brothers who are peace officers. i have deep respect for law enforcement. we're going to cooperate. you saw what the attorney said. we're going to follow that advice. >> so you're going to cooperate meaning there's an ongoing investigation? >> we will cooperate with law enforcement when they ask us to do that. >> why was there a raid? >> well, again, as i said, we will cooperate. if there's any questions on that issue. >> okay. congressman, we really appreciate you joining us, to cap a very busy week and heading into another one. thank you very much for speaking with us this morning, sir. >> thank you so much. >> okay. up next, perspective from the other side of the aisle. congressman michael mccall next on the border. ♪♪ retirement is an opportunity to fill each tomorrow with moments that matter. and a steady stream of protected income can help you secure the life you've planned. for more than 150 years, generations have trusted the strength and stability of pacific life with their tomorrows. ♪♪ because life isn't about what tomorrow brings. it's what you do with it. ask a financial professional about pacific life. can a company make the planet a better place? at walmart, we're pursuing 100% renewable energy in our operations. and aiming to protect millions of acres of land. so we can all live better. 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>> we feel very confident. i think the polling shows this. historically as well the party out of power in the first term in the white house will pick up seats. all we need is five. i predict we're going to get probably at least 40 seats because this president has been so unpopular when it comes to inflation, gas prices, the foreign policy mistakes, and quite frankly, sandra, he's seen as a weak president. >> sandra: well, you have certainly been hammering this administration over its handling specifically of the situation at the southern border. but what concrete steps, congressman, does your party plan to take on immigration if you do indeed flip the house and the senate this fall? >> well, you know, i worked with the prior administration president trump to install the migrant protection protocols, remain inmexico. it was working. 85% of these illegals coming up don't have a claim for political asylum, so 85% are kicked out of the system. they had to remain in mexico, so therefore they didn't touch -- based in the united states where they would be given what's called catch and release. it is as simple as that. i urge mayorkas, because he knows better, he was a u.s. attorney in a border state, so was i, he knows what's causing this but he is refusing to go back to this policy that's working. this is what we need to do. i don't know if mexico will agree to do this again. they did it under trump. it was working. i'm not sure it is going to work under this administration. we have had 2.5 million people cross into this border illegally since the president been inaugurated. title 42 being lifted meaning 500,000 over the next five weeks. my state of texas, we just simply can't absorb this. i mean, i was over in poland, looked at all the ukrainians coming out. you know, it's almost a similar amount, 2.5 million people. although, in that case, they want to go back home. putin invaded ukraine. we have an invasion in my home state right on the border, every day. 2.5 million. >> sandra: congressman, i will ask you the question i just asked our last guest congressman, have you directly heard from mayorkas, any of his concerns? it is reported that he is speaking privately about that, behind closed doors. has he shared those with you? >> yes, i have. i don't want to divulge too much of that, but he's very frustrated. you know, when he went down to the border and border patrol agents turned their backs on him, that is really humiliating for a secretary of homeland security. and then you listen to johnson who i worked with when i was chairman of homeland security, who i have a lot of respect for saying if i had a thousand coming over a day, that was a really bad day. but now they have got 7,000 a day. he says in his words that not only can catholic charities and border patrol not handle this, and they are overwhelmed, but he also says that the biden administration politically is going to be overwhelmed, and that's why you're seeing down in the valley, my home state, a lot of democrats now going to the republican party. >> sandra: interesting. house republican leader kevin mccarthy is leading a delegation to the southern border tomorrow along with congressman stefanik who was originally scheduled to be on this program. he says the president's policies are only making the situation worse. what do you hope to come from this? >> i know the border. i have seen it many times. this is the absolute worst i have ever seen it. 2.5 million people coming in. who is coming in? we don't even know. now we're going to let them in as we debate a covid package, let them in without even being tested. when i traveled abroad, i have to be tested before i come back into the country. they're criminals like the two traffickers that the texas national guard tried to save and then drowned, you know, in the process. you know, what's even worse are these fentanyls. we've apprehended enough fentanyls to kill the entire population in the united states seven times over. my oldest daughter has been to four funerals of this happening. xanax and fentanyl. this is becoming an epidemic. not to mention this is the largest human trafficking crisis that i have ever witnessed, and what's sad is that the federal government is complicit because we basically end the last part of the trip. we pick the children up and then send them into the interior of the united states. and so we're actually complicit with this human trafficking. >> sandra: all right. that will play a big part obviously in the midterm elections. house republicans have yet to release a major policy agenda ahead of the midterms. how do you plan to work with the white house, if you do end up taking control of the chamber? do you see this as an opportunity to block the biden agenda? or to enact your own? >> we can enact our own, and then the white house will probably veto it. i worked very well with secretary johnson when i chaired homeland security. we tried to take the politics out of it and put good policy in place. you know, when all is said and done, this is a self-inflicted wound when the president rescinded on day one president trump's migrant protection protocols, remain in mexico, which actually brought it to a grinding halt. we had the situation for the first time under control. i told mayorkas, i said you can call it whatever you want. you can brand it a biden administration policy, but if you don't go back to this, you're going to continue to have this bleeding and this, you know, human trafficking crisis. >> sandra: so many more issues to deal with as well. obviously inflation and taxes front and center. the white house pounced on national republican congressional committee chair rick scott tax plan this week. take a look. congressional republicans' plan will increase middle class family taxes an average of nearly $1500 this year alone and take 100 billion out of the hands of middle class families each year. do you think senator scott campaigning on his own plan that republican leaders haven't endorsed is hurting the party politically, congressman? >> look, we like good ideas within the party, and then we kind of shake it out; right? it sounds like a pretty good plan to me. we will take a look at it. i think, sandra, you are correct. we need to be unified in our platform. what we're doing in the house is very different from the senate. senate runs around like rogue, you know, operators. we have a plan. kevin mccarthy and i after my china task force recommendations, we are setting up task forces on every issue facing the american people that will be announced in august, with, you know, a specific plan of action and legislative plan of action. we don't want power for power sake. we want power to change the course of this country, against biden's failed policies. and that's what we're going to deliver in august. we're going to go and campaign on it in the fall. >> sandra: you mentioned kevin mccarthy a new book, big news this week, two "new york times" reporters reporting senate majority leader mcconnell and mccarthy discussed urging president trump to resign after the january 6th insurrection. mccarthy has denied that, but new audio proves otherwise. listen. >> seriously thinking of having that conversation with him tonight. i think this will pass. it would be my recommendation [inaudible]. i mean, that would be my take, but i don't think he would take it, but i don't know. >> sandra: can kevin mccarthy still lead your conference, sir? >> yeah, absolutely. i think kevin is in very good shape. in fact, the president came out saying that this is not going to endanger his relationship with kevin, that he's strongly supportive. you have to put it in the context of when it was given. this is literally right after january 6th. it was a very dark day, and it was a very shocking day. a lot of emotions flying high. what kevin was doing with looking at options, what if he got impeached in the house and the senate convicted would it better for him to resign prior to that? the fact is he never had that conversation with president trump. president trump said yesterday he fully supports kevin mccarthy for speaker as do i. kevin has put one goal and one goal only in his mind, that's taking back the majority. i have been with him to israel. just got back from the ukraine and poland and romania. he's very astute in his grasp of the knowledge. he's worked tirelessly to get the majority back. i can tell you the support in the conference is very strong for him. this is a little beltway bubble blitz, if you will. i don't think it is going to have any long-term consequences. i do believe we're going get the majority back, hopefully 40 seats. kevin will be the next speaker of the house. he will work well with president trump. and even when i was in poland and warsaw, you know, they were talking on the phone a lot. so i think this is one of those inside beltway things. when i go home, sandra, no one talks about this. all they talk about is gas prices, inflation, you know, this war in ukraine, what is happening -- and the border is the number one issue in texas. >> sandra: all right. we appreciate you coming on and responding to all of it. thank you very much congressman mccaul. thanks for your time >> thank you. >> sandra: up next, we will bring in our sunday group on midterms and the situation at the border. i brought in ensure max protein, with thirty grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! 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but what is your long view on this? >> well, i think karl makes a good point in terms of whether or not it's a blip that lasts very long. it's probably a blip in so far as the fact that former president trump is not taking abridge against it. that matters. the fact that mccarthy denied he said that but then the recording comes out is certainly not positive for him. in a different political landscape, it would be a bigger deal. i'm not sure that many political operatives would advise saying something didn't happen when there's a chance that not only a, it did happen, but b, there's proof of that, but all of it really comes down to the relationship with president trump and the fact that the former president is saying hey, our relationship is still strong, means it probably will not have a long-term impact on mr. mccarthy's potential to become speaker. >> sandra: juan, you can give us your view, but democrats you could probably make the case may be welcoming this distraction at a time when they're fighting each other. progressive senator elizabeth warren says democrats need to triple down now on some of these far left policies. is that good advice considering president biden's current poll numbers? >> well, no, i don't think it's good advice, sandra. i think this midterm election is going to be bigger than simply the left wing base of the democratic party. i think you have to move swing voters in swing congressional districts specifically. and you got to do that really -- and this is what i think elizabeth warren's best point is democrats have to build and show that they can get things done in washington, that they are not just spinning their wheels, that they can build after build back better stalled in the senate. they can build on covid vaccinations, covid economic relief, the passage of the infrastructure package, that they can now go on and attack climate change. they can do something about child tax credits or education. they have to show that they can be constructive, that they are getting something done with their majority in the white house. i think that's the key message that needs to be sent. they can also i think make the case -- and this goes back to your discussion with karl and jeff, that, you know, look, if the republicans were in charge right now, russia may have already run over ukraine. you know, democrats are looking at gas prices, looking at inflation, but if you look at republicans and you look at kevin mccarthy, he lied to the public. he lied to trump supporters. and trump just knows these guys are so weak they have to kowtow to them, that's not a good look for a leader. >> sandra: i will let karl respond to that, but i will also let things speak for themselves. this is a latest report describing the condition for democratic house candidates in this moment. no democrat in a single digit biden or trump won district is secure, and even some seats biden carried by double digit margins in 2020 could come into play this fall. that is a remarkable warning, karl. what would your advice be to republican leaders right now? >> well, the republican leaders better be prepared to point out that the agenda that the democratic party is being encouraged to take under elizabeth warren and others is an explicitly left wing agenda that the american people don't agree with. second of all, the republicans better be ready for the attack that the white house signalled it was going to make on republicans on the number one issue in the election, namely, inflation, by saying they don't have a plan. of course they've got a plan. stop spending. so look, the democrats are all [inaudible] on this. juan makes a good argument that they ought to try that they can show that they can do stuff, but read the elizabeth warren "new york times" piece, it is a left wing agenda that the american people don't want. free universal this. and free universal that. and spent gigantic amounts of money. and raise taxes dramatically. that's not the agenda the american people want or need. and as a result, they are going to be in very difficulty. it may not be the 40 seats that mike mccaul was talking about, but the republicans are -- he was right, they are already at 213. if they have the average election, 28 since world war ii, that would put them at 231, which is one more than they had after they took the house in 1994 for the first time in 40 years. and i think it is going to be more than 28. it is going to be a healthy republican margin in the house. >> sandra: wow, jeff, both mike pompeo, ted cruz, have been on the trail in the last few weeks campaigning for republican candidates who did not earn donald trump's endorsement. can you gauge that for us? >> it's been kind of a fascinating part of the game to see his endorsements and to see what impact it has. two states of course where he endorsed people in ohio and in pennsylvania who i think some republicans there weren't expecting and didn't necessarily welcome will show how impactful his endorsement has and in some ways be a test of his power certainly in the congress. the other thing i would like to add, though, in addition to president trump's impact on the midterms is i do think from the white house perspective, you're going to see president biden out there a lot more. he was out traveling last week. i was on his trip to the pacific northwest. and he said he needs to get out. he needs to sell his arguments more. he also made a point in one fundraiser of saying he thinks democrats can pick up two seats in the senate. we will see. you didn't hear him saying that about the house. i think democrats will come out and try to make this contrast even stronger than they have so far. >> sandra: very interesting. juan chomping at the bit to respond to that. marjory taylor green was in court on friday as part of a challenge whether she can remain on the ballot. her opponents want her barred from running for reelection because of her comments in the run up to january 6th. what kind of precedent is this hearing setting? >> well, you know, i think for the non-trump sector of the republican party, i hope -- they hope it sets a precedent because they would like to be done with this january 6th insurrection and all the fallout which hasn't stopped, you know, given what we just learned about kevin mccarthy and apparently there's more tapes to come. of course the january 6th committee looks like they have some information, so this is ongoing. now, with marjory taylor green, her opponents are trying to get her off the ballot because they are saying she supported an insurrection against the united states government and under the 14th amendment, i think it's the third clause, you know, confederate soldiers who tried to take out the u.s. government were banned from holding office. now, she's not even challenging the law. this is so interesting to me. you would think she would say well, this law doesn't apply, you know, enforce it to the supreme where she's likely i would think to win. she says she didn't support the insurrection. she says she doesn't remember. republicans like to make fun of biden's memory. it is hard to believe she doesn't remember supporting an insurrection? 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>> hi, sandra. in this past week, here four russian missiles struck here killing seven people, marking the first war-time deaths since this war began. today is orthodox easter. behind us is a 16th century cathedral with its stained glass windows boarded up. we have seen many many people getting their easter baskets blessed even during wartime. last night, here in ukraine, president zelenskyy held a packed underground press conference in a key subway, saying u.s. secretary of state blinken and the secretary of defense are visiting ukraine today. zelenskyy said they should not come with empty hands and should be ready to discuss weapons, also saying putin can stop this war in condemning vladimir putin for rejecting an offer to cease-fire for today's holy holiday. over the past week, russia focused on bombing the major port city of mariupol. an estimated 2,000 ukrainian marines and innocent women and children have been shelters in tunnels underneath a massive steel plant, running out of food. the last ukrainian resistance in that city, even pleading with president biden for rescue. and this week, russia launched its second massive phase of this war, a russian commander now says moscow does want to take control of eastern ukraine all across the southern coast, all the way to the west, redrawing russia's borders and landlocking ukraine. voters in france are choosing its next president with europe's security becoming a top issue. the incumbent centrist macron accuses his far right opponent of being too close to moscow and she denies that. sandra? >> sandra: matt finn in ukraine for us. matt, thank you for your reporting from there. we are back with our panel now. jeff, french president macron and president biden have worked very closely on ukraine. we have seen that, but macron played a big role initially in conversations with putin and recently seemed to chide president biden over the use of the term genocide. talk about the dynamics there and now which leaders are still able to have a dialogue with putin. >> sure, i mean, president biden and president macron, you are right to say have worked closely together. they have had hiccups in their relationship. this french election is one i think the white house is watching very closely because despite the occasional hiccup with macron, he and the united states are certainly very alined in terms -- aligned in terms of policy with regard to nato, russia, and ukraine. the far right candidate has moved more to the center in this election, and le pen has been successful in the polls because she's been focusing on pocketbook issues in france which are issues that affect this country and other countries around the world as well. this election will really have consequences for the united states if it does not end up being macron because of the alliance and because of the impact on nato. >> sandra: all eyes are certainly on these french elections, juan, as millions head to the polls there today. do you see any parallels between the french election and lack of enthusiasm on the left here in the united states? french voters, they're us for traded equally over covid -- they are frustrated equally over covid, energy prices, inflation, both macron and biden have mixed records. >> yeah, i think that's exactly right, sandra. i think macron's numbers are similar in terms of approval rating to biden's. but you know, in a way, it's interesting, you look at le pen, she has so much in common with former president trump. you know, both have been critics if not opponents of nato. both are really very closely tied. in le pen's case, even financial ties to vladimir putin and russia. you have the whole anti-immigrant sort of identity politics play, and so i think there's a lot of in common there. in some ways, though, the fact that macron is leading and has expanded his lead in the polls in the last week would suggest maybe good news for biden in that people react especially now that the ukraine situation at war is forefront of all of our minds. >> sandra: karl, i want to take a bit of a pivot here. senator bernie sanders, former presidential campaign manager wrote a memo that recently leaked that happens to mention he has not ruled out a run in 2024, if biden does not run. is this about democrats still feeling the bern, karl, or is this about sanders or his former team positioning themselves a little and calling out biden and schumer in the process? >> i think it is a call for new generation of older democratic leadership. let's pick the one guy who is older than joe biden and try to run in 2024. look there's going to be a generational change in 2024. i don't believe that either joe biden or bernie sanders are going to be the nominee of the democratic party in 2024. we're not going to nominate an 82-year-old or a guy who is going to be i think 83 at that time. so the democratic party is going to want a newer younger face. >> sandra: that is remarkable to think about. and we will continue to look forward to the midterm elections and 2024. gentlemen, one last topic for you all today, we learned last night that former utah senator orrin hatch has passed away. just wanted to take a moment to remember him. karl, to you first. >> well, in 1987, orrin hatch getting ready to run for a third race picked a young kid from texas to help him do his direct mail for his reelection campaign. we were friends ever since. i'm wearing a pair of utah cuff links that orrin gave me. he was an amazing guy, remarkable human being and god bless him and god bless elaine and his six children and his many grandchildren and his numerous great grandchildren. he was a good and solid man. >> sandra: juan, your thoughts? >> you know, i think i might surprise you, but i think he was a very very good man and a friend. i tell you what, he was close to muhammad ali. i don't know if you know this. he used to bring me muhammad ali ties all the time. i should have worn my muhammad ali tie signed by orrin hatch. we used to have great debates. he's that kind of person, that kind of human, grand father, and just a man who loved america and put his mormon faith and america first. i was a great admirer. >> sandra: jeff? >> what i think about in part his legacy is bipartisanship. he was really close friends with senator ted kennedy, and they put a lot of legislation together which they got over -- or they got passed together, and that harkins back to a day that we certainly aren't seeing as often now in 2022 of senators, congressmen and women from both parties working together, to get things passed, even when they're really diametrically opposed in terms of their political beliefs. that's something that senator hatch did, and it is a part of his legacy. >> sandra: we remember orrin hatch, great leader, was admired by so many. thank you very much to our sunday panel. thanks for joining us. we will see you next sunday. up next, a final word on the week ahead. exploring the heart of historic europe with viking, you'll get closer to iconic landmarks, to local life and legendary treasures as you sail onboard our patented, award-winning viking longships. you'll enjoy many extras, including wi-fi, cultural enrichment from ship to shore and engaging excursions. viking - voted number one river cruise line by condé nast readers. learn more at viking.com. >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, trust safelite. this dad and daughter were driving when they got a crack in their windshield. 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