referees are known to hate the alabama football team. now in fact these referees have made public statements saying how much they despise the crimson tide. with us much been the situation with republican presidential candidate and the moderators chosen at the commission presidential debate. and after years of concert of urging the rnc to please cut ties with this ridiculous organization on friday it finally did. chairwoman ronna mcdaniel said in a statement that we are going to find newer and better to be class for platforms to show that future nominees are not forced to go through the bias cpd in order to make that case to the american people. note the gnashing of teeth that you can imagine that followed was predictable. >> this is a big deal another blow toward democracy. it's also a virtual guarantee that america will go further into their echo chambers. >> wants that rubble can party decided that the american free press is bad that journalism assuming that cannot only do without it they are against a party, will you have a swear that ends. >> laura: no rachel not against it but they are against playing the rigged game. >> it was not a spontaneous demonstration is that we are saying? i would make so big that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi, an active terrier. >> 1. >> can you speak a little louder? >> he did call it an act of terror. >> laura: and then there was a time that one of those unbiased moderators began a primary debate with a personal question. >> your ex-wife gave an interview to abc news in another interview with "the washington post" in it she said that you came to her in 1999 at a time when you're having a fair, she said that you asked her to enter into an open marriage was like to take some time respond about? >> no, but i will. [cheers and applause] >> i think the destructive and vicious negative nature of much of the news media makes it harder to govern this country harder to attract even decent people to run for public office and i am appalled that you would begin a presidential debate on a topic like that. >> laura: jan had to adjust his depends in that moment. and then it was a time that cnbc turn john harwood to blame his preferred role of dim operative. >> mr. trump, you've done very well in this campaign so far. promising to build a wall and make another country pay for it and make americans better off because your greatness would replace the stupidity and incompetence of others. let's be honest. this a comic book version of a presidential candidate? >> laura: even the guys at c-span went to great lengths to cover up their bias, you could see scully taking advice from the moocher member that become a trumper when his direct message was mistakenly put out as a tweet course donald trump called him out end end up being right. so i can go on why bother. we know that the so-called journalists or how they think about conservatives as you can see from the way that they treated all romney talks many others this isn't limited to donald trump. the notion that democracy somehow requires that conservative candidates submit to horribly bias questioning for four years, that is ludicrous unless democracy of course was meaningless back in 1858 when abraham lincoln faced off against douglas and were the most storied debates and political history of the moderator and no panelists. i'd say that the american people and a lot more this by reading exactly what the candidates said back then. now the modern-day candidate really didn't begin until 1960 when the first time in history the debate between two major presidential candidates was televised member people would listen on the radio thought that nixon had one, but on camera it was the opposite. kennedy looked cool and polished. after that there was the debate lowell for 16 years, a pig backed up in 1976 but by 2012 it was beyond obvious that the moderators were dead set against two over the republicans nominated. obama was the lord and savior and he had to be protected at all costs. the bias then work it would worsen the last few presidents back in 2016 they hated shrimp so much that there were serious demands by respected media figures that the press had a duty not to be objective when covering donald trump. >> you can't cover donald trump like a normal person because he is not a normal person. >> he has change the way that we cover news. >> we been trying to treat donald trump presidency as of its normal. try to normalize what can't be normalized. >> laura: there is not been a single moderator i think the past three elections except for maybe of course for fox viewers wouldn't wholeheartedly believe support the democratic party. not to say otherwise. the press shouldn't complain, the only themselves to blame. had they actually made the effort to call balls and strikes to report the truth about the resolve of both the democrat and republican policies on domestic and foreign affairs. most americans would consider the debate important to preserve exciting, tough, but fair on both sides. look at just the last few years. look at the press. they sold the phony russian collusion narrative they buried hunter's laptop they silenced those who actually reported on it, then they push the destructive lockdown and vilified those were against the lockdown. universal masking even little kids, they sided with the blm at the same time covered for violent and antigovernment protest. and of course can forgive this. they obsessed endlessly over january 6th. and then they downplayed inflation. come on their still covering for china we know that. even when they're starving, china is tens of millions of their own people. unfortunately as we seen it so many areas of american life. the media lost its prestige and credibility long ago. just like the public health sector has lost the respect of a huge segment of the american people. just like the courts, just like the prosecutors, just like the intel agency, even the pentagon. they've all become hyper partisan. but remember they are supposed to work for us. but too often it seems like they're working against us. and the ideals that made our country great. for many years the g.o.p. was run by the bushes, the chinese, and i was over and over that they'd rather lose to the democrats than actually do with republican voters want. so i think that they were kind of happy with a little bias because they hate of their own voters more than they fear the left. even romney who is treated horribly in 2,020 you just saw that clip. he was happy go down quietly rather than rock the bipartisan boat. those days are over. republicans have new leaders now. leaders who actually think and were right and that giving power to the hard left is bad for america. so the g.o.p. is finally, finally beginning to stand up for itself. in the country as a result will be better off. and that's the ankle. sure to now is ronna mcdaniel republican national convention as well as mike huckabee man who stood on that stage for the presidential candidate, former arkansas governor why was the time right now to do this? >> the time has been long overdue as you just chronicled. but it was time to get rid of the biased middleman who is negotiating debates with the democrats best interest at heart. in the republican party took a huge step to set you know what we can negotiate for ourselves. we don't need a middleman anymore. we need to do what's best for candidates and for our voters and not giving opportunity for a candidate to not deal with bias moderators and commission at the commission on presidential debates. >> laura: this is what they think this is retaliation from withdrawing these rig debates. >> the national committee say more of the presidential debates. the reason for that also is to get literally those debates and their viewers from watching mainstream networks and to keep them isolated in their information bubble. unless the fcc steps in and regulates its false disinformation speech, i think it can be more problems for information discourse in this country. >> laura: what are junk had what is he talking about? governor huckabee tell us your perspective having set up there on that stage with this decision? >> having been on that stage in two different presidential election cycles. first of all let me give a great big electronic hug to ronald mcdonald and the rnc thank you, thank you for finally waking up and getting this right. i cannot express enough how much i appreciate the pettiness that the rnc has shown. politics, they never help loaded gun if it's pointed at your own head. and every one of these debates have basically been asking republican candidates for president to help load the gun that was pointed at their own heads. and it's insane. i'm glad that it's gonna stop, there's a lot of things we can do to improve this process the first one is who needs a moderator. you only need a clock keeper give everyone exactly the same amount of time, don't let the networks for their own purposes of getting ratings decide who gets the most time, give everyone exactly the same amount of time put on o'clock and when finished it's over there max cut off. that's one way that would improve the lot. as well as a lot of other things they could do it but the big step done today and thank god the you and others have done it i hope the press would to slowly melt away like water on the wicked witch of the west. >> laura: this is been going on since upper watching presidential debates since i was really in college. 1988, 1984. but a son about the press is about the the issues but i think democrats are really afraid to be on that stage with none of the protective bubble wrap that they have a governor huckabee noted for all these years. i think they're petrified of having to defend. >> and also get 2,023 started the 1st of april after 26 states had started voting. he picked moderator to work for joe biden. we sent them a letter a year ago thinking get assurances 74 million republican voters the will not do this again. they didn't want to work in a republican party. so we said to them we don't need you, we can negotiate on her own. removing the middleman and removing the bias report in the hands of the american people in a republican voters mixed our nominee is given a fair platform which were given a free and fair debate were to win. thank you governor huckabee for your great suggestion look for for to talk anymore because we can use those as we go forward over absolute committed to debate in the media is lying again with her saying they were walking away. walking away from a biased middleman that we don't need anymore. >> laura: i like the idea as a democrat versus the republican. it's like trading cards, a cable you this moderator for this moderator. or we'll just go 5 minutes on the economy, 10 minutes on the border, but i know we can complain afterwards because you had your chance to make your point or get your moderator or no moderator at all. but that's what he do it. but governor there are so afraid of this on to put this on screen for lunacy is just a small sample of 2,020 left-wing calling for a complete elimination of presidential debates forever. i'm governor how quickly they forget, leg look at all the new -- they didn't want any of it. and now suddenly how can you do this, democracy is over. the list goes on and on. it is to publish in they are. governor, again august 3 reign supreme. >> they may forget but the republicans are the party of the elephant and elephants never forget. ami also mentioned something. people forget that the purpose of the debates particularly in the primaries is not to give the networks high ratings for a tv show. the purpose is to let the voters of that particular party or their candidates and make the decision. it's the party's primary not the networks primary. the party used to take total control of it. they need control every aspect of it. where it's simple it's a broadcast, lucas asked questions of the questions we don't have questions. maybe just let each candidate make statements and react to each other. but at the same amount of time, quit having, and it be of kitties table. that's insulting and it's also destructive. keep in mind more than anything else that we have to educate the american voter that the purpose of these debates is to get them the voters the opportunity to hear about what the candidates think. i can't tell you a question or would asked me a question was spent 2 minutes asking the question and then say to me okay there's my two minute question you've 30 seconds to answer. are you kidding me? coming for president you're not. i was so shut the heck up and let me have the 2 minutes you take the 30 seconds. >> laura: if they want to going americans got talent went out be all about them is she going to a different line of work. again is not about any of us is not about the reporter. it's about the american people and the issues, it took a woman to get this done, i'm so happy the masks on the plane in the debate commission us back on is a great day. governor thanks so much. and speaking of institutions of course suffer greatly in the eyes of the american people, and import filing late friday arguing that the cia concluded data from clinton campaign lawyer alleging coordination supposedly between donald trump and russia, was quote not technically possible and was quote user created. in other words it's phony. he also alleges that in february of 2017 he provided an updated set of allegations including the alpha bank claims and additional allegations related to donald trump to a second u.s. government agency that fox news confirmed was indeed the cia. generally now jonathan turley. fox news contributor, why did he find it necessary to get this new information out and file it so it's obscene the public domain? >> for one reason the former clinton campaign attorney has been really taking a scorched-earth approach to the trial which i understand china keep out evidence trying to oppose the witnesses receiving immunity all of them effort to keep out some of these. that is force the hands of the special counsel who told the court why this is all important. these are very important disclosures we haven't seen before. the finding by the cia is quite telling because we know that the law firm had two of the critical figures here. he was under indictment and the general. he's the figure most associated in the campaign which is sanctioned by the sec of the got the funding is legal at that firm. elias was accused of taking the funding of this dossier. he was accused of hiding the clinton campaign's role in the alpha. both of them were debunked russian collusion claims. >> laura: professor let me just say that on a friday was news. very few of the other networks actually covered it i mean really covered it i wonder why. you just laid out so perfectly. you might've heard me or see me take the mask off literally at the beginning of the show but tell us why the judge decision essentially vacating the cdc's mask mandate was important here and basically she said it was beyond the scope of the cdc authority was arbitrary and here's how americans began to respond when they heard the news professor period >> if you want to come off you can you're free to do it we do have extras if you like them. [cheers and applause] >> congratulations. [applause] >> laura: professor with the administration stop it? as a gift to them as we move into the midterm election? >> their reaction the recommendation of the cdc. expectations of all of us is that they would instantly announce appeal. all that deliberation was going on people ripping off their masks the white house was asked to think that masks are required? in the prosecutor he said we think that they are important and we recommend that people wear them. before the sentence ended peter masks coming off of 40,000 people. the question is do they want to pay the price of appealing this? the judge said that she accepted that masks may have an impact on transmission of the disease, which set of the public has a right to be heard here cdc cannot become a government unto itself and said that the cdc didn't even bother to explain why they didn't any requirements they just and we said that this is common sense. >> laura: why thing also look. if they want to pass a law mandating masks on plane i suggest that they pass the law. let's actually do that or try to do that and see how that rolls in the american people. professor thank you so much great to see you. and a member if you can't watch us live make sure you get to set your dvr you will miss his every weeknight at 10:00 p.m. and with joe biden already handicapping with heels and tone of her primary might look like gus was leapfrogged was to mark coming next. ♪ ♪ go with simparica trio it's triple protection made simple! simparica trio is the first and only monthly chewable that covers heartworm disease, ticks and fleas, round and hookworms. dogs get triple protection in just one simparica trio! this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions, including seizures. use with caution in dogs with a history of these disorders. protect him with all your heart. simparica trio. ♪ ♪ >> laura: there is a curious editorial that were compelled to answer. first our friends over at the journal are posting that we have a labor shortage, okay. if we had a true labor shortage wages will be rising faster than inflation. instead it's the other way around. that doesn't seem like a very difficult economic concept, but apparently there's some corners to be the case. it should also be noted that the result of a true labor shortage wages rising faster than inflation as we had under president donald trump. and also most of us think of as prosperity. on the other areas editorial the journal claimed that we can fight inflation and help youth by limiting. the tariff was in place in 2019 and we did not have inflation so it makes no sense to say that that's what causing inflation now. make in china richer and more powerful in causing our supply chains to apply more on the ccc that sonic and help ukraine it will hurt ukraine since china is supporting russia behind the scenes. no many republicans of stop listening to media outlets they don't seem to reflect the reality on the ground. these two editorials may provide an explanation as to why that is happening. like we all have to grapple with what's happening. the real thing that's happening on planet earth. at some time leave the old old libertarian idealism of the past. they're not pro-open border. in one unlimited trade with china. even if many on wall street don't want that. now something interesting caught her eye this morning. "the washington post" released their 2,024 democratic presidential power ranking nothing about that 15 months into his first term. in joe biden's term influential liberal publication finds his performance so troubling that's already handicapping them. there were kind of the bottom of the top of the list to be nice that's not the most adjusting part. his natural successor of course the vice president, harris but she is in third place. hein wonder boy. we just mention of course 2,020 presidential candidate former congresswoman tulsi gabbard. there seems to be this palpable concern not just among them brother media boosters about president joe biden and kamala harris. so they're leapfrogging kind of both to go to wonder boy would he think about this? >> this "washington post" article is just another example of how the mainstream media is essentially the propaganda arm of the democratic party elites. doesn't really matter and of how their ranking these people because ultimately we know that they'll never nominate anyone promote everybody who believes and supports the constitution or bill of rights, though never nominate anyone this until the line there will cancer cultural pushing a policy things i take away parents rights, making sure the of open borders and can sing free speech as americans will never nominate anyone he was about to the interest of military industrial complex much more 50 months into this administration were to see more articles like this from the mainstream media. as a push different candidates are people that they like and we just have to know every time that we see this that this is propaganda, from the democratic party elite. >> laura: i think they're just discounting it all at this point. we hear in the media out there so upset of the last few days about the republicans finally pulling out of these obscene debates which is just laughable. you got completely hosed in the debates as i recall i think you said some at the time on stage like hello, i'm here. [laughs] what's a reaction to the decision by the rnc to say no thanks? >> i don't blame them. just haven't been on that stage the rhetoric coming from the organizers in the mainstream media news channels partner. this can be fair is an unbiased come all the with an equal shot. that's b.s., i think on average on every they used to go to ours, may got seven total minutes of talk time on there. to say that this is an unbiased service to the people holding our democracy it's nonsense into a political theater that's being organized by the propaganda arm of his permanent washington establishment. the democratic elites. the further republican party for walking away, looking to the things of the republican party was asking for, very reasonable request. very reasonable request. the fact that they rejected them, shows her hand about their bias. >> laura: what's your reaction to chris actually floating the idea of american troops on the ground in ukraine told see what's your thoughts on that? >> it is incredibly dangerous for u.s. senator to push this idea. the some issues with this, number one congress has not debated, the american people have not had their chance to say that this is what they want or they don't want. so there defined constitution even putting this forward a number two, how does it serve our interest as united states? how does it server national security? what undermined it. nothing about my brothers and sisters whose lives would be put on the line. the boat essentially kicked off world war iii, anna a real challenge to a nuclear armed russia risk of nuclear war, that is exactly what he's proposing everyone should be very clear-eyed as they hear this kind of rhetoric coming from washington. >> laura: great to see you thank you. now her to be unveiling our wits' end segment at the on the show tonight here's a clue. a famous media outlet inadvertently reveals how antiscience it's become which one is it pushed mark put your guests at ingram angle and tune into the other show up next joe biden laid an egg yesterday and people are very upset with the actress portraying michelle obama in a new miniseries, raymond arroyo has up next hang on. ♪ ♪ are you taking a statin drug to reduce cholesterol? it can also deplete your coq10 levels. i recommend considering qunol coq10 along with your statin medication. the brand i trust is qunol. - hello, michael youssef here. you know there is no symbol that is more misunderstood and maligned than the cross of christ. and yet it is on that cross that jesus died. and he died to give all confessing sinners peace here and now and eternal life with him. will you surrender to him? - [narrator] to find out more visit findingtruepeace.com today. (gentle music) ♪ ♪ >> laura: big cultural stories of the day we moved to fox news contributor raymond arroyo rehman i can't believe that you were there look for you in the crowd. the big easter celebration at the white house today. >> it was the return of the white house easter, two years, so look more like the white house presidential role no matter what president joe biden attempted to date somebody rolled him. he was either being told where to go, what to do are utterly confused and left wondering. >> they're not killing me read all. [applause] >> you can teach me. >> thank you so much. [laughs] so funny. >> thank you all for being here. >> laura i have never ever seen a president just abandoned by his guests and even his own wife like joe biden. they just leave them there on the stage even the kids were paying attention to them. >> laura: the bunny couldn't of hopped away fast enough he was hopping, let me go find some carrots i want to go. >> the first lady even had to tell the president what to do after he officially said happy easter. >> happy, happy easter. [applause] all right. [laughs] >> way, these traits weren't the only thing lost to this event laura at one point a journalist friend asked the president a question about afghanistan, when you try to answer he was saved with the easter bunny who started the president but successfully led him away, turns out i was the white house director of planning megan hayne in the bunny suit. the old dresses festive creatures. >> laura: they had are undercover but it would've been very bad staffer is not original, i think you will have some type of custom character and most future events. to help move things along. maybe new press secretary. exactly. >> a pumpkin be various teams. if you haven't watched it yet laura i'm sure you're setting your dvr to watch showtime's the first lady miniseries. this is that starring mashup of first lady's from eleanor roosevelt to michelle obama, report on a few weeks ago. will the first episode aired critics as well as the public are roasting, academy award winner viola davis for her attempt at becoming michelle obama let see what you think. >> really john edwards had secret service about mitt romney, [bleep] run for president of united states. so get is little difference between you and those other candidates. >> hot. [laughs] >> the player coaching for the media has been absolutely hilarious time complaints the first lady is an egregiously miscast instantly inspirational missed opportunity davis' portrayal is downright offensive of the following promote purse lip situation [laughs] showed this to say about her portrayal. >> adeptly is not like any other job because you're applying iconic character it was with michelle obama anyway you know how she talks how she walks. how she wears her hair. maybe different incarnations of her eyebrows. [laughs] [laughs] >> i just want to say this. the reason you're seeing this ferocious backlash is not that she wasn't particularly wrong in her portrayal is that michelle obama has been immune to impressions or satire throughout the entire eight years she was the first lady and continuing. now you have an academy award winner who sees the mannerisms and she exaggerates them at the effects of act. >> laura: they cannot take any criticism or not even criticism nothing. the obama diaries you forgot about that. lots of people online or attacking viola davises make up as well, her eyebrows, this is how michelle obama's eyebrows actually look. are we gonna see it? yeah, so a big deal she looks pretty there. i should like it before she had all the makeup on. >> when she was doing the mrs. trump no one complained, she was exaggerating features. people had a lap never but he on. michelle obama should be open to the same fun. >> laura: thing but they did to nancy reagan didn't care about her until she was portrayed okay raymond thank you. after the police involved shooting, the usual suspects rushed into fan the flames of the division, but are they neglecting the very voters that they claim to stand for? and as we look at to the midterms the angle is launching a new segment, we unveil it next with a look at one race in particular stay with us. ♪ ♪ (heartbeats) introducing icy hot pro. with 2 max-strength pain relievers. ice works fast... to freeze your pain and your doubt. heat makes it last. so you'll never sit this one out. new icy hot pro with pro-level contrast therapy. rise from pain. ♪ ♪ >> laura: up police involved shooting in grand rapids, michigan, the videos released by the police that the now deceased wrestling with a police officer. the officer repeatedly ordered him to let go of his taser one point asking to drop the taser. involved in incidents a horrible tragedy rather than seek solutions against the root cause of why this man was pursued why he resisted blm and their media allies took a memorable and different tack. >> the one-a-day identified the policeman does at said that his record of doing things that are abusive? >> this is the reason for the black lives matter movement i was see was at that officer believes that this man's life did not matter? was not valuable? what exactly would it take to stop this level of execution-style killing a black man, and black women at the hands of law enforcement. >> laura: blm and the folks you just heard that it would hoot huge disservice to those who they claim to be fighting for. according to the report violence and crime along with economic issues black americans top priorities right now. not something to keep in mind when watching msnbc rabies editorials in "the new york times" is also why were launching a new segment tonight the people's turn what we hear from candidates looking to win this november 1 of those is former oklahoma house speaker who is now running in the g.o.p. primary for senate. law and order is the number one issue for black americans along with the economy, does it surprise you today? >> yeah i'm not surprised. we talk about this very thing how law and order is the announcement of the day. will liberals who been telling african americans for years that the only way that we can survive is depending on government. the reality is america's not almost extended action of racism as the homeless of systemic opportunity. the reason why americans are weak numbs the fact that democrats have try to keep what's on the democrat plantation for so long to live because the legacy of donald trump. it was donald trump who provided the lowest unemployment rate for african americans and right now public safety is the order of the day and the democrats have no credibility because kamala harris and joe biden ran on lawlessness of defining the police and they have the full support of blm the black line marxists. >> laura: fox is reporting that a south carolina judge set a $25 bond for a suspect and mall shooting on saturday now that shooting left 14 people injured according to a columbia police department report now join price 22 is gonna be on house arrest but allowed to travel to and from work while wearing an ankle monitor until we post bond. to me this is exactly example of the system failing the people, 14 people injured? and he's about? >> this is a travesty of justice and when you hear the liberals talk about what the issue is they try to pretend like the issue is guns. i come from a state or i was got an a rating from the nra and what most people no, have done the use them legally to protect their families because the second amendment guarantees that right, the liberals will have you believe that guns of the problem. guns are the problem the problem is really fatherlessness in the homes. we don't have the fathers in the homes it creates all sorts of issues and the violence that we see that liberals only answer to is more government intrusion, more taxes, but what is done is it's creative a sense of lawlessness. you'll think of these liberal they've made almost unlivable. it's a disaster. we talk about this very thing. >> laura: will be watching the primary can't wait to look for that senate seat in oklahoma. a famous media outlet inadvertently shows how antiscience has become did you actually guess it did you treat me? the answer is next. ♪ ♪ at america's best, you can get two pairs of glasses and a free eye exam starting at just $69.95. and they don't even have to be identical! one pair can be practical and sturdy, while the other pair is super stylish and wildly good-looking. book an exam online today. >> laura: i asked you what media outlet revealed how antiscience has become. a few of our guesses they tooted msnbc, i have more comments but am still refraining for the moment christian rights cnn always, top media outlet. the answer is "the washington post" earlier today "the washington post" tweeted assigned to study how climate changes affecting human health. pregnant people and their unborn babies are merging as a vulnerable group. someone should tell the post about what abortion does to unborn babies or to women. that's it for us tonight democrat felt is next. >> greg: it means that it's time for. ♪ ♪ >> with your host joy behar. >> greg: so good, so let's take a look at what you can get away with this we could so amazing, one man arrested after mass shooting in south carolina mall. which 14 people were wounded he has bee