governor ron desantis not only has a plan for removing illegals from his state, he also has an idea of where he wants to send them. he is here tonight with more. plus, dr. jill steps into safer husband and kamala's inflation era redecoration. raymond arroyo explains that in "seen and unseen." but first, the walking dead. that's the focus of tonight's angle. a political party like company or maybe a sports team or school should always have a succession plan. it's about preparing for the foreseen and unforeseen. who can step in as the next ceo or the next head coach, the next school principal. how about the next speaker of the house of the senate majority leader? the democrats have no such plan for their creaky leadership at the top, and i have a very shallow bench. consider their leadership lineup. it looks like a new version of "cocoon," this time set in washington. a faltering, debilitated 79-year-old president who would be 83 at the start of his second term. >> president biden: the devastation is just stunning. there's nothing left standing. >> laura: the uninspiring 82-year-old house majority leader, steny hoyer, just announced today that he's running for his 21st term. his 21st. i saw that and i was like "can't be." chuck schumer is the youngster of the bunch at age 71 but he's been in congress since i was in high school. that's a long time. he hasn't changed his moods at all. ♪ ♪ >> laura: i think that's the cha-cha. increasingly-cantankerous nancy pelosi as speaker who will be 82 by next year's midterms. >> let's get some clarity here on the social spending bill. obviously -- >> some clarity on what? >> the social spending bill. >> you're talking about the build back better for the american people. however you're referencing it is not familiar to me. make sure you know what you're talking about. >> laura: that's her humor, by the way. in case you've been agonizing about how much are going to miss her when she's gone, she's planning on running for an 18th term in congress. considering that pelosi is essentially making all that important to mr. policy decisions for the weekend ineffective biden white house, i can't say i blame her really. she has real power. whether or not she's in the majority. if but having a wealthy soon-2-be 80-year-old woman from san francisco leaving the democrats after what i believe will be at 2022 g.o.p. wipeout will also seem really out of touch, don't you think? americans know that these dinosaurs should be lumbering off into the sunset. at least trump was only in d.c. for four years. then there are people like jim clyburn, who's been there for 28 years. at age 81, he's in no mood to give up power. no. >> i never ask anybody to die for me. i don't know why people come saying "you need to step aside for me." no. if you want my seat, come get it. >> laura: that's the party of the future, you saw it. sure, if your calendar is stuck on, i don't know, 1995, yeah, definitely. the democrats are in a huge bind, but they will not do the hard work necessary to build their party back better. afraid of "the squad"'s primary challenges perhaps, they abandoned the middle, and it went way radical. the result for them, politically at least, are devastating. biden has lost two-thirds of americans in the inflation issue. only 54% in his own party approve of his handling of that issue. and he hit the skids among independents, a 71% disapproval rating. trump would win in a landslide if the election were held today. look, you can't build a national movement with a woke ideology that believes in open borders, business-killing rags, high taxes, coddling criminals, racial pending, anti-american hatred and unending covid mandates and a partridge in a pear tree. it can't do any of that. none of this is working. the people rejected in virginia and almost did so in new jersey. the blue states of being left behind, but most don't even care at this point. even if california is losing business, their losing population and more congressional seats as a result, liberal gavin newsom reinstituted an indoor mask mandate today. ditto for new york governor kathy hochul. this is complete madness and it's going to hurt their economy but they want to control their people, period, no matter how unpopular it is. both newsom and hocul have eliminated themselves from national office. so well is the democrats bench? cuomo is gone but gretchen whitmer from michigan? j.b. pritzker in illinois. both have failed spectacularly as governors. with their track records, neither would last a month and his business, the hotel chain. high it would be firing an overnight manager in cleveland just for being rude to guests, let alone the kind of track record those two governors have. that's where the democrat governors with terrific records? there really aren't any, certainly not compared to the republicans. ron desantis in florida, who will join you later in the show. greg abbott in texas, bill lee in tennessee, pete ricketts in nebraska, kim reynolds in iowa, and many more. the g.o.p. may have an aging senate minority leader in mitch mcconnell, but it also has a slate of younger elected officials who are energetic, conservative, and smart. whether or not trump decides to run again, the main point is that the g.o.p. actually has a very deep bench. if the democrats are trying to put a good face on all of this, but they know they're going to need to replace biden and they know that running kamala harris would be like hitting a root canal without novocain, only you lose the tooth at the end. [laughter] >> slow down, everybody. [laughs] >> laura: what about pete buttigieg? liberals will say god, pete is our answer, we still have mayor pete. well, if the former mayor of south bend is your plan b, you better be -- you better be in favor of running joe again, okay? even if he can't form a sentence. a member, the democrat field was super weak in their 2020 primaries. a half-lucid biden, who bombed at every debate i'm a barely campaigned, lost iowa and new hampshire, still wipes the floor with every other democrat running. when i thought about that today it's like wow, i kind of forgot that. their only stars are the squad members. but they've become more of their own sideshow, more interested in brand building than in governing. and it may not be as fun for them, frankly, with a g.o.p. majority. the one democrat governor who has shown some sense is jarrod polis of colorado. >> at the end of the medical emergency, frankly, people who want to be protected are, the emergency is over, so you know, public health doesn't get to tell people what to wear. that's -- you know, that's just not their job. they always wear masks because it always decreases flu, it always decreases anything but that's come on you know, not something we require, you don't tell people what to wear. if you're vaccinated, that's her choice, -- if you're unvaccinated, that's your choice but it's your fault when you're in the hospital with colby. >> laura: that's a reasonable statement. the crazies in his own party are blasting him as a heretic. this proves the point, the wild left-wing activists will not tolerate any deviation from their failed policies. they just love endless spending, stay-at-home orders, mask mandates, ripping down statues, and of course the diversity equity inclusion curriculum in schools. all of this may make you popular, i guess, on social media, but none of it works in the real world. so democrats are facing a difficult dilemma here. stick with pelosi and biden and they will join the walking dead with no future in politics. go your own way and you'll be isolated, castigated, shunned, and hounded in your own home. and that's "the angle." joining me now is indiana congressman jim banks, republican study committee chairman, and victor davis hanson, hoover institution senior fellow. congressman, good to see you tonight. your reaction to the big news in the last 24 hours the joe biden and nancy pelosi are both going to be holding out a little longer? >> if you think about it this is been a pretty lucrative career for nancy pelosi, she was worth about $3 million when she started out in congress, today she is worth $200 million, so why not keep doing it? it's awfully lucrative, but the fact of the matter is nancy pelosi is older than my grandma. i love my grandma. joe biden is the same age as my grandma. i don't believe my grandma is capable of leading this country. she's not capable of certainly even filing my taxes, but if that's the future of the democrat party, it tells you everything you need to know about where they want to drive this country. a very wise businessman my district tells me you shouldn't put 8-year-old people in the position to make 20, 40, 50 year decisions for a business or for our country, and that's what the democrats are trying to do. >> laura: victor, speaking of grandmothers, here was hillary yesterday. >> the republican party has gone along with him. honestly, they have hung their spines up on the wall as they walk into their offices. they have no conscience, they have no spine. it's a time to decide whether we are going to be a grown up country are not. >> laura: victor, i think it's amazing to hear hillary clinton, who is still whining about losing the election in 2016, reading her speech is she didn't get to give, she struggled for growing up? isn't a time that she grows up to >> well, she's in her mid-70s too and remember dick durbin, the third man in the senate, he is 76, bernie is 80, so they are all octogenarians or septuagenarian's and they are not going to retire, laura. what else what they do? they've been in politics their entire life. they know they have driven the dash driven the democratic party over the cliff, if they retire now they will take a big beating in 2022 and 2024 and they are going to be blamed for it. they got on this left-wing tiger and they got on the back of it, "the squad" come as you said, aoc, blm, and even antifa they and nodded on and they can't get off the tiger. if they were to retire and jump off, who would take their place? some crazy people, and they know it and they've wrecked the democratic party because they didn't have a graduated retirement, they didn't bring in new people because they were narcissists and egotists and thought they could stay there forever, and now they've been sabotaged or hijacked by the hard left and all they have now, as you reviewed, is they have january 6th, donald trump is a monster, locked down forever, and they got a new one that hillary is hinting at, and they've all got -- adam schiff. if the republicans win in 2022 or '24, we are going to have an autocracy, a dictatorship, the end of democracy, and all that means is the polls are against them now. right after the election when biden won, they were saying the system has been redeemed, democracy is fresh, and then they had ten months and they ran their poles in the ground and they had the most unpopular agendas in recent memory. >> laura: let me get back to the congressman here. >> they don't have a clue because there unpopular. >> laura: victor, we said this last week, congress been, said this last week. prespin has begun, democracy isn't really democracy in the united states, but only one party that matters. i think the democrats could be a vibrant party if they were enforcing the border, pro-life as they used to be, started being more sensible, a little bit more centrists. they refuse -- so we want a two-party system that's healthy and vigorous, but msnbc is already working the spin machine because they know what's coming down the pipe. watch. >> my god, how can democrats move forward with any election, how can joe biden move forward to any reelection unless he looks at the threat to our democracy that we still face right now? and that is january 6th, the attack on the capital. >> laura: what else do they have? i mean, they don't really know what else. they have the race issue, tearing down statues, abortion, porn, pot, and this. >> there only agenda is power, hr1, symbolically their most important item that they put forward in the congress, is a bill to give them permanent power by changing election rules to give democrats an advantage on election day and make d.c. a state so they get two more democrat senators, public financing of campaigns so we all get the opportunity to contribute to bernie sanders for president every year, every four years with our tax dollars. that's their agenda, permanent power. it's not to do anything at all to help -- >> laura: i want to jump in there, congas men because we were talking the other day and i'm concerned about this as well. republicans take power next year, let's say that happens, and then what? are republicans going to be ready on day one with an agenda that they've campaigned on that's going to be able to be moved quickly? because the democrats were ready, they had what they wanted to do. >> i believe that we are. it starts with big tech, starts with securing the border. those of the issues that are -- >> laura: but those are general issues. we need pieces of legislation that need to be clear, that's what i'm saying. it needs to be a contract with america. i don't mean to jump on you with that but can't just be anti- -- it can't just be anti-biden victor, that's what i'm concerned about. anti-biden, anti-pelosi. but what are you for? >> and energy policy that gets us a lot more arrows of oil pumped every day, with got to go back to being free of the middle east dependency, we've got to stop this critical race theory, to end discrimination, be racist to end racism and go back to martin luther king's content of our character, not the color of our skin, and we've got to say that if you're going to be in the united states and are going to vote in election, you've got to be a citizen. you can't have 800,000 people that are foreign nationals voting in a city election. there should be a federal law that supersedes state law. >> laura: tax cuts for the middle class. >> just as there is in other matters. >> laura: especially for the middle class, it's got to be the first to get the governments off the back of the people. congressman, you're my first guest back in studio i think. >> it's an honor. >> laura: you can a fruitcake later on. good to see you, victor. while aiding law-enforcement, a man smuggling and illegal -- texas lieutenant governor dan patrick sounds off. plus border governor ron desantis makes a big announcement of how he will deal with the influx of illegals in his state. he's here to tell us next. ♪ ♪ go with simparica trio it's triple protection made simple! simparica trio is the first and only monthly chewable that covers heartworm disease, ticks and fleas, round and hookworms. dogs get triple protection in just one simparica trio! this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions, including seizures. use with caution in dogs with a history of these disorders. protect him with all your heart. simparica trio. ♪ ♪ >> laura: for months we've been warning that biden's open border policies wouldn't just put a burden on our country, it would have violent consequences, and just days ago, a mother and daughter were killed when a smuggler t-bones their car after running a stop sign in mission, texas. the suspect was speeding away from police while trafficking six illegals into the united states. all seven of them have been arrested. joining me now is texas lieutenant governor dan patrick. dan, this story is so enraging on so many levels, it is tragic, it is needless, and it was aided and abetted by this administration. >> laura, this hit me to my core, and i've seen a lot of death in his job as lieutenant governor from domestic shootings and police violence and disasters, but this one hit me to my core. last saturday morning at 11:30, carmen sosa, mother and daughter, 59 and 21, were sitting in a car to stop sign. little did they know that the minutes before, some wild, crazy smuggler was racing through stop signs and red lights right on the border and when they pulled out from that stop sign, as you said, they were t-bones and they were killed instantly. the flame of their life put out in a moment. their future gone forever. their family grieving. did i see any comment from the white house? did i see a condolence and prayer from either biden or kamala harris? no. nothing. they don't care about american lives, the blood is on the hands of the president. and laura, this is a strong thing for me to say, but i believe it in my heart. if these policies don't change comedies will be the less people to be killed. they don't care about the smugglers and the gang members who killed innocent americans. they don't care about law enforcement or illegals. they don't care what the flood of drugs coming in. mayorkas, i'm asking you to resign tonight, tonight. and mr. president, if you won't reach out to this family then you have to look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself, do you care at all about them met laura, he should come to the funeral, or send molly harris and looked this family in the eye and say we were wrong, we are sorry. but nothing from this white house, nothing. not a word. >> laura: they've never done this though. this is nothing new. this is nothing new for the democrats. obama didn't make calls when things happened under his watch. again, it's pick and choose. you'll call when it advances your own narrative, police are bad, racism marks the entire society, but when it comes to these border crimes, and sadly, this is just one of hundreds if not thousands of violent -- thousands and thousands of violent acts against americans and a lot of them hispanic-americans as well, which is why frankly, as you pointed out before, they are moving toward the republican party in the rio grande valley and all the way up the east coast as well. >> yeah. laura, and this isn't about politics, this is about human life. this family, by the way, they are carmen's family in law enforcement. her sister is retired from law enforcement, and her brother-in-law. this president -- this president shows that he doesn't care. he doesn't care about americans left behind in afghanistan. he doesn't care what inflation is doing to the american family. he just doesn't care. he's put these radical policies of the left and open borders on the line and people are paying a price. you know, laura, when our soldiers are killed in the line of duty, the federal government reaches out to the family, offers condolences. sometimes the president will go to delaware, see the coffins come back in. i would argue that these people on the border are on the front line, mr. president, and they deserve the same dignity from your office. so at least call that family, mr. president, ask jen psaki tomorrow the press conference if the president even cares, if he knows carmen sosa, 59, her daughter, 21. they were probably sitting there that stop sign a moment before their death by this 18-year-old smuggler racing at 70 miles an hour, he never hit the brakes when he hit them. they were probably talk about christmas and family in the new year ahead in their life is gone and their future is gone because of these policies by this president. >> laura: terrific, and this has been -- i keep saying this, but this has been happening for decades in the united states, hit and runs, dwis. trump was maligned for bringing this up after he came down the golden escalator. >> it's worse than ever. hundreds of these happening now. -- >> laura: we've got to go. we've got to go, we've got to go. >> 400,000 a year, we will apprehend over 2.2 million. there will be millions or millions -- they are infiltrate in this country. >> laura: dan, we've got to go. we've got to go. sorry. i hate to cut you off but we got to go, got to get to desantis. he's hitting this issue as well. what's happening at the border isn't staying at the border, illegals are flooding across the country. florida governor ron desantis has proposed working with bus companies to transport illegal aliens out of the state. he has a good idea for a destination. >> in a somewhat tongue-in-cheek but it is true, if you sent to delaware or martha's vineyard or some of these places, that border would be secure the next day. >> laura: governor desantis joins me now. governor, good to see you tonight. critics say this isn't about safety, it's about 2024, and to that you say... >> sold the border is beasley a disaster in some people say that's a problem for texas or arizona. well actually, the biden demonstration puts people on planes and flies them into florida in the wee hours of the morning and they've done over 70 flights in the last six months, dumped people here, and we had a few weeks ago one of those people that biden dumped ended up committing a murder in northeast florida, so these are crimes that would not have happened but for biden's recklessness, and so our view is if they are going to be dumping, we want to be able to facilitate transfer to places like delaware and so we have $8 million in my new budget to be able to do that, but we also look to these carriers that the federal government is contracting with and we are going to pass legislation that says if you are facilitating biden's policies, which is effectively a mass human smuggling operation, you are not going to be eligible to do business with the state of florida or other local governments and we are going to charge you restitution for each individual that you're bringing, because yes they are drugs, they are crimes, but you also have things with health care costs, education, all of the services that get taxed because of biden's reckless policies and so we have a responsibility to fight back, and that's what we're doing. >> laura: i want to get to a "washington post" op-ed that came out tonight. i know you won't be surprised to hear this. the headline of this is "ron desantis is paving his path to the white house on the backs of vulnerable migrant children." you're laying the groundwork to kick vulnerable migrant children out of florida shelters. it's not about public safety, it's about matching of the presidential hopefuls, performative cruelty to immigrant children. as dan patrick just noted -- as dan patrick just noted, did the lives of the american people or legal immigrants matter at all to these democrats? because they are being impacted. >> yeah, exactly. so in florida if you house our foster child in florida, you get paid a lot less than what the federal government pays for bringing people from the southern order, from foreign countries, so my view is let's use our resources to help kids who need help in the state of florida. american kids, floridians. let's not be a repository for people coming from all over the world illegally through the southern border and then brought to the state of florida, so focusing on your citizens first i think is common sense, and we want it to be -- we do not want to facilitate biden's reckless policies in any way, shape, or form. their policies are wrong, and if the states band together and do things like florida is proposing to do, it would be more likely that they're going to have to reverse course but if you're facilitating a month and they're going to continue to do what they're doing. >> laura: governor, really quickly on this issue of mask mandates. i know you've rejected them across the board. what's your reaction tonight to both new some in california and hocul in new york going back to mask mandates with this omicron, which seems to be, thankfully, so far, a mild virus and that's the data we have so far on that. what's your reaction to the blue states reaction to this. >> what are we on, like day 700 of the 15 days to slow the spread? the fact of the matter is you give these people an inch, they will never let go. they are going to take a mile, they are going to restrict, they are going to mandate, they are going to lock you down and we cannot accept that. obviously in florida we do not accept it, so there's no reason to be restricting or mandating anybody throughout our country and the fact that this is still going on in these blue states and may even intensify over the coming weeks and months, it just shows you if you value your freedom, and 2022 if you are in those states, you can make your voice heard and you've got to do a change of direction because i fear that they're going to continue to do this until they suffer at the ballot box. >> laura: yeah, new york has now a higher case rate than florida, governor. new york city. new york city, just to be specific about that. >> yeah, so here's the thing, laura. it's a seasonal pattern. southern states have a different season, northern states are going through their season. mandates and restrictions have not been effective but they've been very costly, and i think the proof is in the pudding. you have people that want to come to florida to vacation, buy homes. you don't have the opposite where people are leaving free states to try to go to new york or some of these other places. >> laura: governor desantis, great to see you tonight, thanks so much for joining us. biden finally sits for a big interview on late night and the first lady tries to save her husband. 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>> laura: it's amazing that you did that, that you took the martyr kate about 4 minutes to get there >> in 2017, as we said last week, norman lear, then a kennedy center honoree, refused to attend of trump shut up, so trump, to honor the kennedy center said okay, i'll just stay home so we don't disrupt the gathering. but when it's down to the actual topics, biden had to check his notes. >> how much do you pay attention to approval ratings? >> president biden: well, not anymore. people are afraid, people are worried, and so they are -- you know, they're being told that, you know, armageddon is on the way. one of the things that i find, jimmy, and i think you really would associate with this, and i think most republicans -- there's an awful lot of republicans in congress that -- >> throughout the interview he lost his way repeatedly. he would occasionally just trail off and jimmy gleefully went onto the next next question, but there are serious consequences, laura, for performances like this. our allies and our enemies are watching, and this is why his domestic agenda is having sony problems. he is falling apart and politically he's tanking. >> laura: he's doing all this crazy stuff because pelosi is running domestic policy, so she is all captive to "the squad," so she's just doing the radical stuff. meanwhile, biden is just like "get me through the day, get me through the day." >> they sent first lady jill biden out, and she was quizzed on cbs about her husband's obvious mental decline. she was having none of it. >> quite a few americans have some questions about the president's current mental fitness. as someone who spends -- i can see you shaking your head. so what's your response to that? >> i think that's ridiculous. >> that's it, no follow-up. moments later, biden joins his wife and rita graver and dr. jill had to rescue him. watch. >> president biden: every time a helicopter lands when we get out and i am home from wherever i am, she is standing on the balcony. i'm serious. >> you're a lucky. >> president biden: i am. i am a lucky man. >> smiled. [laughter] >> president biden: she says "joe, you're too emotional." >> smiled, laura. imagine if someone were giving emotional cues, stand up, laura, smile, look sad, laura. this is so bad for him. it looks like he's being coerced and told what to do what you saw the dead face. >> laura: there is a pattern older gentleman who do get quite emotional at odd moments. john boehner was -- john boehner would cry the second time he had to mow the lawn on a day. don't worry. raymond, i do not want you to worry about that. kamala harris is ready to assume the presidency. she was out doing some important work today at an electric car charging event in maryland. >> okay. >> that's it. >> okay. there we are. >> that's it. >> and there's no sound or fumes. >> i love how she's holding the cord of the electric charge or lectures pumping gas -- no sound or fuel. welcome to electricity, madam vp. wait until she comes across a curling iron. the heat, no fumes. but we may be underestimating kamala here. last week she launched, and it's cruel of you not to have covered this, she launched a huge initiative that got way too little coverage. >> i am issuing a nationwide call to action to both the public and the private sector. our department of health and human services, and centers for medicare and medicaid are launching a new initiative to designate birthing-friendly hospitals. so this is a brand-new designation. >> brand-new, laura. >> laura: no one's ever had babies before. >> no woman understood how to find a obstetric or natal care until now. i know you all were leaping into action to locate those birthing centers in your community. what is she talking about? >> laura: first of all, raymond, their party and the trial lawyers who pour money into it are the reason we have so few ob-gyn's left in the united states. >> and one where pushing money to abort children, what you need a birthing center for? we will leave it there. great to be back. >> laura: birth men and birth mothers -- >> birth people. >> laura: raymond, thank you. the world is paralyzed by fear over new covid variants that we know is more mild, but why is that? are medicine cabinet has answers in moments. stay there. ♪ ♪ >> should we be expecting yearly boosters? >> if it becomes necessary to get yet another boost, then we will just have to deal with it and that occurs. >> laura: spoiler alert, fauci and friends will almost certainly push yearly boosters but of course he's ignoring the latest science. a new cdc analysis of 43 americans, small group, but that's what we have, they were infected by the omicron variant, found that 34 of them were fully vaccinated. that includes 14 individuals who were fully b19 and boosted. only six people with natural immunity caught the variant. why is that? and oxford university study published today found that two dose covid-19 vaccines generate a lower anybody response against the omicron strains, suggesting that the variant could lead to more infections among the fully vaccinated. joining me now is dr. jay bhattacharya, sanford school of attica profession and dr. kirk, pediatric cardiologist. doctor, is this a stunning study or is it too small to really tell us much? >> no, i don't think it's stunning or too small. this is early in the state of a new variant and we are seeing some interesting data, which is what you would expect. you would expect as there are now 30 mutations of the omicron variant, you would imagine that a vaccine that was prepared against the legacy, predelta coronavirus, that you would expect it to not be as successful. what it would have liked to see in that u.k. study is that they would have actually tested the serum of those who have been previously infected and see how that did against the omicron variant. >> laura: yeah, well they didn't do that and they tend not to do that, as we have discussed before, because they don't want to really look at the natural immunity question, but fauci hit the sunday show talk circuit, dr. bhattacharya, to continue to push the vaccine on kids. watch. >> if you're child is five years of age and older, please get them vaccinated, we need to protect the children. this idea that children are not vulnerable at all is not so, george. the number of cases of children, now well over 2 million children from five to 11 have been infected. over 8,000 to 9,000 hospitalizations and well over 100 deaths. >> laura: dr. bhattacharya, he just kind of undermined his own argument, did he not, by highlighting how rare it is for children to have severely adverse effects to this virus? >> yeah, i mean, children, thank god, have been relatively protected from the severe disease, from this virus, even without a vaccine. you know, there's a difference in the risk of severe disease and death from children to old age. older people being much, much more affected by this infection. he is saying that children can be infected. no one ever doubted that. the issue is do they respond to this infection with a severe outcome, and the answer is they don't. he's fearmongering again to parents for reasons i do not understand. we should be assuring parents that compared to other things like the flu or many, many other risks that children face, covid is not among the most severe that children face, they should be getting back to normal life. >> laura: i want to play something by this woman named ellen on msnbc tonight, doctor, because apparently now the blame shifting after a year of a lot of deaths with a vaccine goes back to trump. watch. >> a monstrous thing that we have to wrestle with is a country is that allowing people to dive covid was a policy choice by donald trump. it is now a policy choice by the republican party, we are now getting into the realm of crimes against humanity. >> laura: doctor, the man is totally unhinged, crimes against humanity last year? what does this mean? >> i'm not sure what this all means but if i consider a crime against humanity, i would consider that we haven't explored other ways and promoted early treatment of those who are infected. you know, i see hope in our medical creativity in this situation. we've had almost two years -- it was almost -- really a year of vaccines, but for those of us who are going and seeing patients in their homes and seeing them in our clinics, with the legacy we tried one thing, one from his work and then as delta came, we shifted some, changed doses with success and now with omicron i feel we will do the same thing. if we need to change early treatment we will do that but i think the concern for me is that the only hope that seems to be coming out of the medical community is vaccine. what about early treatment? hoping these people. i go see these people all the time and they were sent home with no treatment. some of the basic things i use our basic asthma meds. >> laura: we've talked about this before but it bears repeating, dr. bhattacharya. from the very beginning when we were fighting on this issue back in march of 2020, we were having frontline doxxed tell us is a vitamin d deficiency in most of these patients, zinc deficiency, they were using things from hydroxychloroquine, than ivermectin, steroids, there was a whole range of treatments that were either banned or summarily discounted. why? >> i mean, i don't know the answer to that question, laura but i can tell you now there early treatment that are not controversial. governor desantis, you had on the show earlier, promoted the use of monoclonal antibodies, which are, you know, nih -- fda approved, nih documented. i think that kind of thing should have been part of our toolkit from the beginning. the nih actually has a trial they are doing on ivermectin that's due to be completed in march of 2023. it should have been an all-hands-on-deck effort to evaluate these -- from the early epidemic. >> laura: there was only one path that it went through the big pharma company, there was only one path for these people from the beginning. great to see you both. up next, an inspiring moment comes out of a terrible tragedy. the last bite. >> laura: in the wake of the horrific tornadoes that devastated the midwest south last week, one kentucky man decided to make something really beautiful. ♪ ♪ >> laura: to support the victims of the terrible disaster by donating to the tornado relief fund, the website is listed below. pray for these people. i'm laura ingraham. ♪ ♪ [cheers and applause] [scattered applause] >> greg: it's monday, everyone, which means it's time for... >> and now, "gutfeld!" presents, the dumbest man in america. >> crime is rising. >> oh, my gosh, it is so bad. >> you and i had a