laura ingle's is in gabby petito's town with the latest. >> hey, great, no confirmation, a lot of people were hoping to hear the fbi say something about who these human remains belong to, but we did not get that in the press conference moments ago. but the fbi giving us a significant update in the search for brian laundrie. and one of the things that caught our ear and the press conference was that they said that brian laundrie was a person of interest in the murder of gabby petito. they never use that language before, the fbi holding the news conference about the human remains that were found today. listen. >> earlier today, investigators found what appears to be human remains along with personal items such as a backpack, a notebook belonging to brian laundrie. these items were found in that area that up until recently had been underwater. >> so fox news digital catching chris and roberta laundrie at the reservoir earlier today, a search team overheard telling his parents he might've found something. telling police he had gone for a hike september 13th and then reported him missing after he did not return to their north port, florida, home for several days. cadaver dogs, a coroner's van, investigators all around the reserve today, the fbi announcing that the area will once again be close to the public after it was reopened to the public yesterday. i reached out to the family of gabby petito and their attorneys to say that the "gutfeld" family will not be making a comment today and do not have plans to do so in the near future. standing here today and blew point come as you mention gabby petito's hometown, a lot of people still awaiting answers as we all do from the fbi. >> greg: we will take it around the table, i have the first question, the laundrie parents decided to help with the investigation last night, surprise, surprise, they find the body the next day. i'm assuming it is him. did they know where he was the whole time? number two is it possible they made a deal to help find the body so they would not be charged? >> a lot of people wondering what the activity was with chris and roberto laundrie, that is the key question. with the time frame they said we are done searching the area, we will wrap it up and take down the yellow tape and let the public come in and then we have this development today, the fbi has been tight-lipped as all of the investigators are on the case, and as you have seen, chris and roberta laundrie as well. >> dana: about two weeks ago mr. laundrie joined the search, did they -- you probably don't know the answer to this, but it would be curious if they went to the spot. >> but these investigators asked chris laundrie to take them to areas they know we have been to before. what did he like to do? we were not sure what that meant, and when we saw chris laundrie going in and that golf cart singing around with investigators we were not sure what to make of it, did he point them in the direction? we have been hearing a lot about the water levels that have gone down in the 24 hours that led investigators to the discovery today. again, a backpack and a notebook believed to be brian laundrie's near the human remains, not making an identification at this point, dana. >> katie: laura, katie pelletier, want to talk to you about the timeline and the excruciating waiting that the family and our friends in her hometown have been going through, gabby petito was reported missing by her family on september 11th, it is now october 20th, can you talk about what you're seeing on what people are looking for in terms of trying to at least get some closure? >> yes, we were here just two weeks ago interviewing the four coparents of gabby petito, her mother nicole, stepfather jim, her father joe who lives in florida along with his wife tara, and the one consistent thing they said was that they were really hoping that brian laundrie would be found alive. they have questions or want to know what happened on that cross-country road trip in wyoming and want answers. not only that, but if he is found to be responsible, they want justice for gabby. >> greg: jesse, i know you don't have a question, but you have a thought. speak to my thought is the parents are as guilty as sin and they are involved in a conspiracy to cover up their culpability in this case. the guy comes home without his fiancee and the parents take him camping. and on the camping trip on the way back, they go buy cell phones, they all go buy cell phones, now the cops look at the cell phones and did not have any evidence, but did they also buy burner phones? a solar charger, because it appears like they were in communication with this guy, brian, possibly with the burner phones through the attorney, the attorney is a dirty attorney, cricket obviously, and if the brian guy calls the attorney he then tells the parents what is going on with brian, client confidential information, you can ask questions about it, so maybe they don't hear from him for a while, it's out there and the one time both parents go out looking, they happen to stumble upon personal items, we are hearing it probably was a gator that got dirty laundrie in that little swamp, we don't know yet, but they could hit him with the charges here, you have accessory after the fact it is murder committed on federal land, you heard the news, the word murderer now, knowing the defense against the united states has been committed receives, relieves comforts for assists, the offender in order to hinder and prevent the apparition trial or punishment, your accessory after the fact in a murder case is 15 years or is there. you could do harboring or obstruction if they do some droid evidence, aiding and abetting, accessory to unlawful play, i would lean so hard on these parents, obviously they know something and have been hiding it, and the family of gabby deserves justice, and if that's what it means, so be it. >> greg: what are your thoughts? >> one question, are there any other persons of interest, the only person we heard publicly consuming this awful story that brian laundry was a person of interest, are there any other law enforcement might be targeting or have targeted? >> yeah, they have only said that brian laundry was a person of interest, and i do want to know to that in today's press conference and all throughout to this investigation they repeatedly, agents repeatedly said that they still want people to come forward, you may hear the news today and say that there were remains that were down in florida, they are still looking for people to come forward. we have heard about all these witnesses that saw the couple fight brian and gabby on their way of their summer trip, still looking for somebody to come forward and he says altogether, but to answer your question, no, no other persons of interest have been identified. >> greg: thanks, laura, great job, straight ahead, the crime wave meeting a new point, a woman raped on a train and found that instead of calling the cops. ♪ ♪ >> jesse: crime wave in america taking a horrific new turn that could be a culmination of the left policy is, after brutal rape of a woman on a train outside of philadelphia, other commuters took out their phones are recorded it instead of calling 911. the victim was reportedly harassed for over 40 minutes and traveled 27 stops before the suspect was arrested. the other passengers who did nothing could reportedly be charged and as you can imagine local third authorities are furious. >> people were holding their phone up in the direction of this woman being attacked. what we want everyone to be as angry, disgusted, and join us in being resolute to continue to make the system safe. >> when they see inappropriate behavior, behavior you would not want your 10-year-old to see, call the police. call 911. >> jesse: the details of the story get even worse. the suspect is an illegal immigrant with a very long rap sheet, overstayed his visa and wrapped up multiple misdemeanors including a sexual abuse misdemeanor in 2017, he was then put in it in immigration detention in 2018 but was never deported. so we will get to the immigration thing and a second, grade, but what does it say about the culture of this country that this could happen? >> greg: i am not going to take a broad brush to the country, because we are disgusted by this which is good. what if we weren't disgusted, everybody is disgusted by the story, so that's a good sign, but it is not just about the ghoulish thug, it is about the d.a.s and the judges who could have prevented this, who could have kept this guy behind bars were sent him back out, and this is not an isolated occurrence, we are having these wake-up calls every week now. more week up calls in the motley crew and nothing changes. we have a father of a rape victim get arrested because he was pointing out the had been free to assault his daughter after previously assaulting someone else, we had a woman murdered by her ex after he was released after beating her up, that was in virginia. again, another left-wing d.a. response coming up mentally ill and drug addicted individuals beating up elderly people in manhattan, they are saying very hateful things, but that does not register and legacy media, because it is not the right skin color, inner-city racism has been declared a public health crisis, but racism is not going around, raping people, it did not bash asian women in the subway, the only crime that to racism fuels is led ignorance of the rising homicide and rising crime rates by a guilty white to leftist leaders. we have to stop this come because i just don't know how a country can survive when we basically look at lawlessness as a weather pattern. >> jesse: to greg's point, dana, you had an immigration judge after the's alt said deport the guy coming in on an appeal, the other panel said he gets to stay, and after the sexual assault conviction, two more arrests in philadelphia, sanctuary city, so he gets to stay. >> dana: this has been one of the most disturbing things i've had to report on for a while, we did the story with judge dineen and she had some excellent points about this, one of them is that you put yourself in her shoes, so not only issue being harassed by this guy, groped by the guy, and then raped by the guy, clothes torn off, and their people around, so the crime, the violence of that, but she would have seen that nobody did anything, and am trying to put myself in their shoes, i have not witnessed a crime where i would've been have asked or compelled to do something, you would like to think that you would, i don't understand -- you talk about the culture, this seemed to me like something that you might only see somebody with a sick mind come up with in hollywood. but it is reality. to the other thing is this woman once she gets to the point where she feels like she can do something like this, i think that she should sue the federal government, because he should've been deported multiple times and she deserves restitution. >> jesse: she does come you don't have to be a hulking masking hero on that train, you are asking for 911, this is the train and the time, that's all you need to do and they did not do it. >> harold: this may be as sickening a story as anyone could imagine, and almost to your point, it sounded incredulous hearing it. we see more obsessed with making videos then having it displayed on or putting it on tick-tock or instagram or whatever it might be than this. we sometimes forget that one of the planes were taken down, and crashing into the capital, they gave their lives, it's a reflection on us as a society, outrage is the right thing in the right response, but i can't get beyond how 40 minutes, how do you see another human being in front of you and not try to stop it? i don't know how you don't stop it, there were enough to try to stop it. it's enough to comment, but the thinking of culture for something like this is hard to describe come the pain in the fact that we have this type of thing to look at. >> jesse: what does it say psychologically that everybody wanted to be a social media star. >> katie: to me people say it is very clear the difference between right and wrong to the scenario, the people on the train who took out their phones for 40 minutes instead did not see it to the same way as right and wrong. and you are right, it was not just one person late at night on the train where this is happening and maybe they would be in danger if they stepped in or another woman on the train car and she was terrified, there were ten people on the train car who did absolutely nothing. and if you look back at his track record, his rap sheet with the law enforcement level, the federal level, returning to a society in the cities where the d.a.s don't prosecute people compounding the idea that criminality is okay for whatever reason, why wasn't he deported? was it a technicality, for a politically correct reasons? why was he back on the street for committing crimes in the past and he is still here? that is something you look around and people say, why would they call the cops and the cops can't do anything? because that's what happens next. >> dana: wouldn't you love to ask alexandria ocasio-cortez if you should be deported? >> greg: at some point there has to be an entertainment media shift towards the repulsion. in the early '70s it was not until like hollywood started doing movies like death wish about who vigilante is somewhat became the scary thing. is that we have to wait for, for bernie gets incident like that from people that actually care, because people will be left. if the police are not around and no one is doing anything, what you have left? >> harold: it would be different if they had police that came, this is a different kind of story. i cannot imagine not calling the police were trying to help. >> dana: throwing your phone at his head or something. >> jesse: if anybody here has gone to another country, not arrested once, but four times coming it would never be allowed to stay, only in america. a straight ahead, a desperate joe biden trying to sell his socialist agenda while his poll numbers crater. ♪ ♪ i always had a connection to my grandfather... i always wanted to learn more about him. i discovered some very interesting documents on ancestry. this is the uh registration card for the draft for world war two. and this is his signature which blew me away. being able to... make my grandfather real... not just a memory... is priceless. his legacy...lives on. wealth is your first big investment. is priceless. worth is a partner to help share the load. wealth is saving a little extra. worth is knowing it's never too late to start - or too early. ♪ ♪ wealth helps you retire. worth is knowing why. ♪ ♪ principal. for all it's worth. ♪ ♪ >> dana: president biden about to speak in his hometown of scranton, pennsylvania, trying to sell the public on his trillion dollar spending pan, but poll numbers show that not many americans are buying into it. his approval rating sinking that 37%. and the independents who carried him to victory are souring with 66% disapproving of the job he is doing. and prices continue to pile up for the white house bottlenecks in the supply chain along with distressing americans with the prices of food and gas continue to soar and their shortages in colorado where they don't have enough food for the school lunches leading other problems happening across the country. harold, why is president biden traveling to scranton, pennsylvania, to make the sales pitch? he already has the senators of delaware onboard, they will say yes, you don't have a job shortage in america, we have other problems, but yet he is going to go to scranton? >> harold: home for him, i think he is able to convey the message to an all americana surrounding, but your point i take well and i think it's broader, they are facing a lot of headwinds here. they need a win. it is interesting to me that there are some democrats who are trying to provide a pass including joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. and seems that bernie sanders realizes joe biden was elected president, we have to go down a different path, but there is polling and then there is the narrative around the bill, the polling is terrible and they are intertwined, they have to get a better narrative, i don't know other than some of the things that republicans oppose to and what if you democrats say, it does not all -- it does not have a rhyme or reason. we talk about i think the most disturbing story of the philadelphia story is disturbing on another level, but the disturbing story from the policy standpoint is the capacity of technology to making this so that they can zig and zag and drop a bomb over an american city. if that is not an organizing principle for us in the country, government leaders and other to say here is what we should be doing. i don't know what it is. i would implore the white house, i understand where you're coming from and i like a lot of the things -- not all of the things in infrastructure, but some of the things in the overall reconciliation page, but tight together, if you can't do it, then figure it out. >> dana: they are having a hard time selling it, it frustrates me so much, in the reconciliation bill, what did he say last night to tell the people we have to make some cuts because we are not going to be able to get 3.5 trillion, but the one thing that will not get cut is something from years ago and that's the increase subsidies for obamacare, so what happens is as progressives, you give an inch because you know that you will get them mile later on, because these programs never go away. >> jesse: the country has a very short attention span and everybody is busy. if you sell something as a salesman, politician coming out of a window to sell and it has to be simple. you have to tax cuts, obamacare. that's it, it has to be clean, simple, and convincing. and joe biden has not done that. he has two things. he has infrastructure, no one knows what that is, and he has reconciliation, more people don't know what that is. nobody knows what that word is, and no one knows what is in the reconciliation bill, so he has taken two things that are too complicated and people are now obsessed over the price tag on the process instead of one of my getting as an american citizen they are trying to sell to me, instead of one thing every single thing that liberals want to do in one pot, amnesty, tax heights, irs, it's too much for people to keep track of, and now it does not meet the moment, because what we need windows for right now when people are caring about covid, the economy, and illegal immigration? those are the top three concerns of the american people and you're talking about universal day care? would you trust a baby with the federal government? no. in the program will not get off the ground in two years, three years? a tax cut for a child credit. nobody is going to give joe biden credit for that. no one feels that. seal wall, obamacare, we went online and we bought it. say what you want, there was something you could actually field. none of this you can feel. >> dana: president biden has catered to the left, gracious and generous, and he is the closer, the best. speak for you guys are all wrong, the solution here is it is our fault, we have to lower our expectations, because it is on us, it is not on joe, the overriding message from the white house for every problem has always been it's on you, america, i am losing my patience with you up, america, on covid saying, you don't like waiting in line and empty stores, you know what, get used to it, all right, this is the argument that prevails in the soviet union. you don't like the bread line, don't wait in the bread line, starve. i would wait in the bread line. america now has to deal, we have to deal with the decline, because the government and the media is telling us the decline is necessary. it is not temporary, it is deserved, the pursuit of happiness is now an acceptance of fate and this is how they decline and possibly die. it's not in a bloody civil war, it's a revolution that is sold to u.s. progress when it is not to. if america were patient, this white house will be happy to smother it with a pillow and that's a terrible analogy. >> dana: but i understood it unlike the other things that jesse was saying and it's hard to understand. take us into the mind of kyrsten sinema, she has basically been the one that the democrats are most mad ad, they are very frustrated with her and not as mad at joe manchin for whatever reason. what do you think she will do you? >> katie: i think they are frustrated with her because when she was running for office she seemed like she was more far left when she governed and voted more conservatively since she has been in office, but she is probably looking at joe biden's poll numbers and going, he is very unpopular in arizona and that is this data represent, so i'm going to represent my constituents and after the president came out and was asked if it was okay to follow me into the restroom with a phone and record in the restroom harassment, and he said, well, it's part of the job instead of condemning it, i really have no interest in helping him get his big achievement over the line. in terms of why he is going to scranton, i think it's because it's a security blanket, ample numbers are really bad he does need a win, and for a while, trying to blame republicans for not getting this thing passed, but if you look at the independents and what they are doing, they can't do it anymore. it's all about the democrats. the last thing i would say -- >> dana: president biden is an scranton, we will go to him now. >> president biden: st. paul's church, my uncle jack finnegan's house. his daughters are here, and he taught up at that you, and i just want you to know that amtrak is here, they can tell you coming you should name half the line after me. i'm the most railroad guy you are ever going to meet. at 2,100,000 miles on amtrak coming you hear me now? not a joke. what happened was when you are a president or vice president, they keep meticulous mileage of when you fly in air force aircraft, so about -- i guess it was seven years in to my tenure as vice president, and i use to always take amtrak home on friday and try to go home and see my mom who was living with us the time after my dad passed and i try to get home, and the secret service were wonderful, they are the best in the world, they never liked me taking amtrak because it stops too often and too many people get on and it turned out, number three in seniority at the time, and terms of actual time on the road, a lot of the folks on amtrak became my family, no joke. and commuted every single day for 36 years as vice president in the united states after my wife and daughter were killed and i went home to see my family, never stop doing that. if so angelo, you remember? came up to me when they just had announced that i had flown 1 million some x number of miles on air force aircraft, and and comes up and he goes, joey, baby! and i thought the secret service were going to shoot him, no, he is good, he is good. and he says, i just read, big deal! big deal, whatever it was, a million 200,000 miles of the air force, you know how many miles you did amtrak? and i said no, i don't have any idea, pal. he said let me tell you we were at the retirement dinner and we added up. you averaged 21 days a year, 121 need days a year, 36 years coming up traveled over 2 million miles. i don't want to hear anymore about the air force. [laughs] but in the build back better plan i got more money for passenger rail than the entire amtrak system cost to begin with. we will change the nation in a big way. [applause] i want to thank you for the introduction, i really do, and madame mayor page, you have done a great job, a great, great job. i really mean it, i'm a big fan, and when i got elected, it's the god's truth, after i checked the margin and what it was in the state of delaware, i called up here. she had one bank two years too and i found out i won every precinct in scranton, and i looked up to say, mom, i did it. i did it! and it's great to be here, and it's great to be here in pennsylvania with a very close friend, become a close friend and a great governor, governor wolf, good to see you. and thank you for the passports, left back into the district and you know it's interesting, i grew up not very far from bobby, the senator. and if you added up, it's about five or six blocks, and his dad and i were about 18 years of hard apart, and we are 17 years apart, so it's like a continuum going down there, but i just want you to know we went to the same schools, same parish, just a few years apart and give or take a few years, and scranton is where i played shortstop in the first year that put up my dad helped to build the field down there and spent a lot of time buying pending candy. and hanks on woodlawn streets, watching movies on the weekend and trying to reenact all they did. when you watch those movies, i think i was told, i know there are two, i was the only kid in my era that i was able to walk across the pipe that was just above that thing. if you found lackey, you are in trouble. anyway. [laughs] that's right. no matter how long you live here in scranton, it's a place that climbs in your heart and never really leaves you. that's the god's truth. like the old saying goes, you can take the boy out of scranton, but you can't take scranton out of the boy. there's something special about it, and i believe home is where your character is etched in a really mean that. some of you have heard me say this before, this is where your view of the world began and where it take shape, that's what happened to me at 2624 2624 washington avenue. we came back from st. paul's, st. clair's was not built until i had moved at saint paul's and my grandfather would hold court and back in those days all the men had breakfast in the kitchen, my mother was 1 of 5 children and four brothers, one was lost in world war ii, and the guy who was the chief political reporter at the newspaper, tommy phillips who was living in the street behind us, a good friend of my grandfathers, and all of the women would go in the dining room and have tea and the men would in fact have a big breakfast, and if you are a kid, you are a young boy, you could wander around the table, you can never sit at the table, and so i use to every once in a while walk in and just started wandering around and i would stand near my grandpa up. and i put my hand on his shoulder and i -- they would talk and they talked about everything from sports and politics and that's where i learned an awful lot at that kitchen table. i learned from my grandpa up that money does not determine your worth. i learned -- he told me, and that's not a joke, those who know me know it to be true and you guys know it, that no one in the world is more worthy either in the you, joey, but everybody is your equal. my mom would remind me, she would say "joey, this is the god's truth, remember you are defined by your courage and redeemed by your loyalty" "defined by your courage and redeemed by your loyalty." and my dad when things got tough in scranton after the war, my dad did not work in the coal mines, my great-grandfather was mining there, but my dad was in sales any work for the trucking company and things got slow in scranton, so we moved. i remember the day he came i think the longest walk a parent can make us up a short flight of stairs to tell your kid you can't live here anymore, you can't because your dad does not have a job and your mom does not have a job. my dad move from wilmington, delaware, to scranton when he was a junior in high school. he went and then to st. thomas, not to the prep, it was called st. thomas in those days, and i remember him walking up into the bedroom and saying, honey, dad's going to have to move. it will probably take about a year and i will come home every single weekend. it's only 155 miles. i thought that was like 600 miles away. i will come home every weekend. and i will bring you and mom and everyone down to wilmington and you will like it. and i thought that was like an awful lot of parents who left scranton who moved away, had to move away, and you know, i gained is so much respect for my father as i got older, because i thought about how much it must have hurt him and the pride that it took him for him to walk into my grandfather's pantry and say, st. ambrose's, can i leave jean and the kids with you? i promise i will make it up to you, i will be back every weekend but i promise i will make it up. it's a hard thing for a proud man or woman to do that. but some of the had to. and all of my friends know this, literally this phrase, they heard him say it no i don't know how many times. joey, a job is a lot more than a paycheck. it's about dignity, it's about respect. it's about to look at kid in the eye and say, it's going to be okay. think about it. think about it what it is. it means a lot more then whether you get a paycheck. it defines who you are. and i learned that at the kitchen table in scranton, a place where you take care of one another. and as i said, my mother -- i used to stutter badly when i was a kid, if tommy bell and charlie and my old friends are here at st. paul's, my nickname was blackbird. it was not meant as a compliment, and i was not very big, but you could beat me, but i would hurt you. you think i'm kidding, i'm not. but you know, it's one of those things that i was fortunate, because the people i was surrounded by, our neighbors and scranton as well, that people stuck up for you. they stuck up for one another, and my mother used to say, and i never creditor, she said, remember joey, look at me, joey, you worry biden, like i'm a dupont or something. i swear to god. you are a biden. nobody is better than you. and everybody is equal to you. nobody. the point i am making is is that scranton is not my home because of the memories it gave me, it's my home because of the values it gave me. so when i ran for president i came back to scranton and back to scranton, and started here in scranton and i resolved to bring values to bear with the fundamental shift in how they work for people, and look from the top down, wealthy have not done very, very well. talking about for a fundamental stake, for most of the 20th century we lead the world by a significant margin because we invested in our people. we invested in ourselves, not only in our roads and our highways and our bridges, but in our people and our families. we do not just build interstate highway system, we built a highway to the sky. we were also, we invested win the space race and we won, we are also among the first to provide access to free education, beginning in the early 1900s, we invested in our children. does anybody think today for making that decision for the first time we would say 12 years is enough? in the 21st century? 12 years is enough? it's not. but back then they did and that's the reason we left ahead of the rest of the world, not a joke. >> dana: we have been on a trip down memory lane with president joe biden and his hometown of scranton, pennsylvania. he was there to sell the bid back better, took him for 15 minutes and he was still talking about growing up in scranton. anyway, what were you thinking? >> greg: this is what i did. i thought i would only have to draw that, but then i started -- i drew a robot with a tv head, because that's how i feel like i am sometimes with a tv had, this is how i sometimes look with a haircut pretty handsome, this is me in a good mood. this is some alien. i made my own imo g. and that is me as a child. >> katie: you were drawing his remarks. >> dana: we gave it our best shot. >> jesse: that was not joe biden's best shot, think about it right now, dana, he is at his lowest point as presidency, multiple crisis, and can't handle anything, he is at the last two poles at 37%, his entire agenda is stalled with both houses in my control, we have to send him to scranton, his hometown, and instead of selling it hard, he does not even look at the teleprompter and talks taking it live, and does family story time for 20 minutes. euphemisms and just things he has memorized and regurgitated. >> greg: don't forget amtrak! >> jesse: amtrak loses money every single year, but we will give them more gunny win money, guys! typical politician. you made a really good point earlier in the show, greg. joe biden says you are trying to get back to normal, i'm going to take you back to normal, but he is not doing that. he is trying to sell us the new normal. we don't want the new normal, we went back to normal. the new normal is inflation. if the new normal is an open border, the new normal is china firing missiles, the new normal is we are going to have to wear masks forever, that's not what we wanted or what we were promised we are not going to go for that, and he does not get it. >> katie: america wants the old coke, not the new coke. that was a disaster. >> harold: he probably should've gotten into, but it is joe biden, and i think he is used to being in the coat room in the senate and used to finding ways to connect with members of his own party and members and the other party, this is a guy that is by nature by definition a bipartisan builder and put aside what may have happened over the last year, but his legacy sna, i'm going to work with people and i think he still has that. i wish he would've gone right away to, katie and i were talking and she said it very well, what do independents want? what about the states where you are trying to find democratic moderates to vote lay out what is popular in those states and those congressional districts. don't get me wrong, the personal stories, i know him, i knew -- we went to pen together, but you have to lay out to the country, and i love bo. maybe if we get back to him, he will do that. >> jesse: lower your expectations. >> dana: we are not at a fish fry, he is trying to get the deal done and you have prime time opportunity here, and you don't use it, and one of the frustrations that the democrats have had is that he is not out there sell or selling it, now he has an opportunity and we are like, wait what? spewing just at a time when americans are going to the grocery store and the milk has been out for a week and their diapers are out and their costs are going up, i don't think they want to hear from the president and scranton talk about his other nicknames that he had when he was growing up in scranton. they don't want to talk about or hear about the fact that he rode amtrak as vice president for 36 years, which is what he said, he can't ride amtrak as a vp for 36 years, you can do it for eight years. so he missed another opportunity, and he needs to learn that if you are going to hook people in the 2021, you have to get the message out in the first 20 seconds. >> harold: we should go back to him, he might be talking about it. [laughter] >> dana: do you think that he will be able to pull it together and they will pass something? >> greg: the only thing he is passing right now -- a gallstone, perhaps some flatulence. we have to understand that going back to the lower expectation thing, that is realistic. he is not all there. let's be honest, you have to admit that he is in that age where he is better remembering things of the past then dealing with the present. we know these people. >> katie: if he does get something passed on infrastructure, he has to shepherd it through and make sure the project he has promised everybody gets done. there are environmental regulations through the agency's, there is no plan afterward to make sure things get done and not have the ready moment. >> dana: the white house on background has been saying he is on the phone every day, the members came together yesterday at the white house, a bunch of progressives and moderates, they all were singing from the same song sheet, so perhaps he does have a little sway still. >> jesse: maybe he is on the phone, i don't know if anybody is on the other end, because i'm with greg, he is not right, but this is bottom of the ninth, he needs to make contact. >> dana: are bases loaded? >> greg: i'm loaded. >> jesse: he did not even make contact pretty told stories that no one cares about for 20 minutes and i think the white house communication shop has to be scratching their head like what is he supposed to do? somebody has to get in this guy's ear and say something. lower expectations, your member in the 1970s with carter situation, where sweaters inside, your home heating is going to go up, that's where we are right now. >> dana: stop being so spoiled and expecting that your goods are going to be on the shelves, america. goodness. 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"special report" is next. hey, bret. >> bret: good evening. i'm bret baier. coming to you from the port of los angeles. one of the major choke points at the heart of the president's supply chain crisis. we'll talk live with the deputy executive director of the neighboring port of long beach in just a moment. breaking tonight, the president's approval rating on the economy takes a major hit. a massive hit really in the latest fox news polling. what was a slightly positive grade in september is now a