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>> bill: i had the opportunity to spend a fair amount of time with him in the build-up fought war of iraq in 2003. he was thoughtful and kind and a man who cared about the country and direction we were going. >> dana: understood the ability to bring the military and the diplomacy of america to light for many people around the world. david spunt is live at the white house with reactions are pouring in. good morning. >> i reached out to the white house for a statement on secretary powell's death. nothing yet but there will be a statement. president biden and secretary powell have known each other for decades. we know the statement from powell's family announced his death on facebook about an hour or so ago. i want to read the statement. general colin powell, former u.s. secretary of state and chairman of the joint chiefs of staff passed away this morning due from complications from covid-19. he was fully vaccinated. we have lost a remarkable loving, husband, father, and grandfather. he was the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. the national security advisor under ronald reagan and secretary of state. spent more than 40 years in public life. he made history as the first black secretary of state under george w. bush and oversaw operation desert storm and gulf war earlier in the 1990s. he was criticized for his 2003 speech to the united nations. he alleged iraq had weapons of mass destruction. a long time republican working for reagan, bush junior and george w. bush when he announced his support for barack obama in the final weeks of the 2008 campaign. he is survived by his wife, since 1962 and three children. bill mentioned a statement from former president george w. bush. i want to read it. laura and i are deeply saddened by the death of colin powell. he was a great public servant during vietnam. many presidents relied on his counsel and experience. national security advisor, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and secretary of state. he was such a favorite of presidents that he earned the presidential medal of freedom twice. he was highly respected at home and abroad and most important he was a family man and friend. laura and i send our sincere condolences as his family remembers the life of a great man. we expect a statement from president biden. white house press secretary jen psaki likely to address it during her briefing today. >> dana: thank you for getting us started. >> bill: we'll scan the u.s. and the world. chris wallace, thanks for joining us today and your reflections on the life of colin powell and his contribution to america. >> like a lot of people, when i saw it come across email today that colin powell was dead, i had a gasp. i had he was one of those timeless figures i heard dana earlier say a giant. you just didn't think of as passing from the scene. i first got to know him when he was a deputy national security advisor in the reagan white house. i have been thinking back over the many memories i have of him really for almost 40 years now and i think the highlight as were touched on. the highlight of his career when he was chairman of the joint chiefs of staff in early 1990s, 1991, and headed the military operation along with secretary of defense cheney to push saddam hussein out of kuwait and back into iraq. he along with cheney and george h.w. bush built up this huge international coalition and began it with a month's long air war that just pounded iraqi forces and eventually then launched that left hook a ground invasion against into kuwait against the iraqis. and forced them back. it was clearly the highlight of his career as david mentioned. i think the low light of his career was in 2003 when he addressed the united nations and made the case that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. he didn't want to make that speech. he took pressure from the bush 43 white house including vice president cheney reported to have said you got high approval ratings. use those to sell the war. he was skeptical of the case and actually went out to the c.i.a. and was briefed on it and asked questions and was not thrilled about it but was given by his boss and spoke before the u.n. most of what he said about saddam hussein having chemical and biological weapons turned out not to be true. he took that very personally. he was very protective of his reputation, integrity and he said for years later this was a stain on his career and he very much regretted making that. >> bill: what i remember from that 18 years ago he virtually spent the weekend three or four days locked in a room listening to the evidence and it was after the conclusion of that several-day meeting behind closed doors he agreed to go before the u.n. he called it a blot that will always be part of my record bust it was the credibility of colin powell at the u.n. that really sold america on the offensive nature that was to come in this military action, chris. >> yeah. there was a source, supposedly a secret iraqi source, that the c.i.a. had developed with the code name curveball. a lot of the intelligence was based on what curveball was telling c.i.a. operatives and it turned out not to be true. but this certainly was, as you say, a blot on his career and something he felt badly about but that shouldn't define colin powell. there are two stories i very much want to tell and immediately thought when i heard about his passing. one was here is this black jamaican kid, he and his family moved to the united states. he lives in the south bronx and ends up working as a kid for some eastern europey an jews who ran a furniture store up there. and he learned yiddish from them. when they would negotiate with people about what the price to be for something the owners would go into the back room and the people, the customers, would be there with this little black kid and they would start talking to each other in jewish not realizing that colin powell understood everything that they were saying. he would go back and tell the owners, his bosses, exactly what they were saying in terms of negotiating for the price. he used to tell that story with tremendous delight. in his adult years was quite fluent in jewish. this was colored by the fact he served in vietnam and like a lot of american military people saw what happens when the military and the leaders in washington get ahead of the public. as chairman of the joint chiefs in the early 90s he had the powell doctrine. it was two things. one, if you were going to fight a war you fought with overwhelming force. you didn't go incrementally as we did in vietnam. you brought everything brought to ware what we did in iraq in 1991 with desert storm. the second thing is you had to have american public opinion. you couldn't fight a war successfully in a democracy if you didn't have the public behind you. that was something that guided him in that war and his feelings about u.s. military campaigns after that. >> dana: chris, it's dana. i wanted to ask more on the political side of things. he had thought about running for president under the republican party. he was roundly -- warmly welcomed at the republican convention. he decided not to run for various reasons. we could talk about those. but also then his politics changed over time as i guess many people's have. he endorsed president obama and then president biden. >> yeah. it is interesting. in 1996, there was a real movement to get him -- not 1992 because george h.w. bush would run for reelection. in 1996 he would be the republican candidate opposing bill clinton and it was a very powerful draft campaign. coincidentally, i was at abc at the time and the bosses said to me if he runs you will cover colin powell's campaign. everybody thought he would be in. it was a real big push. and finally in the end he decided not to. one of the reasons and i suspect you were alluding to this. his wife, alma. they loved each other so deeply. was quite concerned about an african-american running and the possibility that he would be attacked physically as an assassination. and that was one of the things. she was very, very nervous and concerned about that. one of the reasons he decided at the last minute to back out. as you say he was a loyal republican. he served as secretary of state to george w. bush from 2001 to 2005, the entire first term. but as time went on -- this was a tough one. in 2008 john mccain was the republican nominee and they obviously had close ties and he contributed money to mccain's campaign but late in the 2008 campaign. he decided to back barack obama which was a big deal at that time. a republican like colin powell backing the democratic candidate and talked about him as the first serious african-american candidate he would be a transformational figure. >> bill: chris, thank you. thank you for reflecting and your thoughts on the life of colin powell. >> dana: and your knowledge is so helpful as we try to tell this story this morning, chris. thank you. and secretary lloyd austin has made some comments, the secretary of defense. let's listen to him. >> colin powell and i want to take just a second to express my deepest condolences to alma, his wife, his son, michael, and the entire powell family. the world lost one of the greatest leaders that we have ever witnessed. alma lost a great husband. and the family lost a tremendous father. and i lost a tremendous personal friend and mentor. he has been my mentor for a number of years. he always made time for me and i could also go to him with tough issues. he always had great counsel. we will certainly miss him. i feel as if i have a hole in my heart just learning of this just recently. first african-american chairman of the joint chiefs, first african-american secretary of state. a man who was respected around the globe and who will be quite frankly it is not possible to replace a colin powell. we will miss him. again, my thoughts and prayers go out to the family and we are deeply saddened to learn of this. >> bill: strong statement. very personal. >> dana: reaction from lloyd austan, our defense secretary. >> bill: he is traveling overseas in the country of georgia when he delivered that statement a moment ago. an anecdote. i was at the state department in 2002-2003 and talking about the serious decision about sending american men and women to war in the build-up to the iraq war of 2003. it was obvious from his tone how serious he took the gravity of this moment. then we shut the cameras off and said i'm taking off for europe now. the conversation went to i worked very early morning hours. i was at cnn at the time. he said how do you do it? and i explained you are disciplined, you keep a skilled and get it down. how do you do it? you are coming back between continents on a weekly basis. he said i have a sleeping bill i split it in half and take half of it and sleep for four hours. when i land i'm ready to go into the day and i'll go another 18 hours after that. and he was a personal guy who understood other human beings in a very personal way and that was evident every time you had the opportunity. >> dana: very good friend of mine sent me a note about she worked for him when he had america's promise and got to a meeting and said she had forgotten a notepad and that he told her never go to a meeting without a pen, paper and a watch. she thought that was funny. everybody had blackberries at the time. she said the other thing that will be missed and he was generous and gracious and a diplomat and tough leader but a booming laugh and sense of humor. on the phone is bret baier host of special report. he covered the -- the iraq war in afghanistan. welcome to the program and get your reactions this morning. >> good morning. sad loss of a major figure in american politics and american life. emailed with my friend, michael powell, who is colin's son extending our condolences to him and his family. it was a bit of a shock and you think about colin powell. i heard chris's reflections and it is somebody that you think will be around forever because he was just a fixture in washington life. he broke so many ceilings as first african-american national security advisor, first african-american joint chiefs chairman and secretary of state. i think what gets missed a little bit is his time as national security advisor in the reagan years at the end when reagan is negotiating with gorbachev. the final details of the treaties they're working on. they had amazing meetings which colin powell was a silent guide. being a young man and in that room he would pass notes to reagan to kind of interpret militarily what the words that they were going to put into these treaties really meant practically and reagan considered him a tremendous asset in those tense times. we don't often talk about that and we don't talk about his highly decorateed career in vietnam. bob carey, former senator, has amazing stories about colin powell as a soldier. >> bill: i think with colin powell, when you say his name it drips of credibility within the military and also political life in washington, d.c. it's my sense, bret, that over the past decade he largely disappeared from public life. not entirely but to a large extent he did. you live in that town. is that your impression? >> yeah, he did for the most part. you would see him at big events and the luminaries would come out for the big black tie every now and then. you are right. he kept a lower profile. it was a big moment when he came out and endorsed barack obama. it was a big moment when he endorseed joe biden. i heard you talking about he really did flirt with running for the presidency. and he was definitely more into it than his wife, alma. and i think that there were a lot of recruiting efforts to try to get colin powell on a ticket some way, shape or form but he served the country for a long time. we're indebted to his service. >> bill: largely thought she did not want him to run and we reflected on that a couple of times in the last hour. is that what your information suggests? >> she was worried he would get attacked or assassinated. they just feared -- she feared especially that that would not be anticipated but eventually america got to the place where they elected barack obama and that's one of the things that he said helped him make that decision. >> dana: the other part of his career is as secretary of state and diplomacy in addition to all the war issues that were going on at the time, bret, there was also the push to have president george w. bush launch the president's emergency plan for aids relief. he went to the oval office and said it was important for national security but humanitarian and right thing to do. >> that's such a big program. i know you've talked about before, dana. in the big picture of things what the u.s. does abroad uses our power some way, that was an amazing program that changed our relationship and how we were looked at in africa. >> dana: we're learning that the white house is going to lower the flags to half staff. we'll bring it to you as it happens live. one of the things also as you mentioned, bret, for the biden white house, one -- the politics of things in august of 2020 when colin powell spoke at the dnc convention endorsing president biden. >> a big moment and covering that convention in the weird way that it went forward with the covid restrictions happening, having a luminary like that speak on behalf of joe biden was a big moment for the biden campaign. i think politics aside, if you look at the span of his career, colin powell has been somebody who has largely been independent. largely not an ideologue and someone who, prior to dipping his toe into politics, really gave presidents sound advice militarily and otherwise. >> bill: thank you, bret. bret baier host of "special report" reflecting on the life of colin powell. a couple things in the family's statements. we'll get into it the next hour. colin powell was fully vaccinated and saying he died from complications of covid. to what extent that is, we don't have that information. we will get a perspective and general sense from our doctor next hour. i think the other thing if you think back to the first gulf war of 1991, we were a country that -- we were -- we found ourselves, you know, together. you think about in late january of that year, early february, when whitney houston sang the national anthem at the super bowl and if you are too young to remember, google it, check it out and crank it up. it later came out it was pre-recorded that took away a little bit from the moment. but it was an awesome moment. i'll save that information. we were embarking on a military venture here that many americans had not experienced since the vietnam war and colin powell, for -- he was face of this operation out of the bases in saudi arabia and kuwait later after that. he led them into a successful. >> dana: remember the briefings and you were glued to the screen. >> bill: ari fleischer joins our conversation. former white house press secretary and ari, good morning. what did he contribute to america? >> oh my goodness, he contributed his graciousness. he had a warmth and uplift to him. the first black secretary of state he conveyed a sense of this is who america is. he was just a good, good guy. and that's what i will always remember about him. i got to know him very well. >> bill: ari, in your time with him, what did he speak about in terms of his commitment or obligation to the country? because here is a man throughout his entire professional life all he did was serve america. >> yeah. it was just that. it was service and it was duty. but he did it with such an uplifting, affable style. a lot of generals you look at them and they're gruff and tough. colin powell could be gruff and tough but colin powell was a sweetheart. he had such an uplifting way about everything he did and he treated people with such kindness and respect everywhere he went. and he was just that kind of leader. that type of man that you were just privileged to say i rubbed shoulders with a guy like him. i got to know him. he just had that way about him. made you feel good about yourself. he touched everybody that way. >> dana: a lot of people remember his military service and the iraq war. there was a lot of diplomacy that went on. what did you witness in terms of his approach to dealing with big world problems and representing the united states on the world stage? >> he represented the united states good. his approach was we represent what's right and good around the world. if we can help people, we'll help them to improve themselves. so he just -- it was almost america first because he lived that. and that i think infused everything he did and how he communicated. such pride in our nation. he wanted others to feel that pride. there is one other story i want to quickly tell. it was after the recount in 2000 contested election between george w. bush and al gore. the first nomination that george bush announced was colin powell as secretary of state. it was a divisive period for the country. the recount went on and on. bush won as a result of a supreme court ruling. the first thing he did was trying to bring the country together with colin powell. he brought people together. it was more than symbolic. it was deliberate to make colin powell the first person in the cabinet and he was a uniter, not a divider. only colin powell could have been that first because he had the ability to bring people together. >> dana: ari fleischer, thank you so much for your time this morning. you knew colin powell and were able to see him up close to see how he conducted his life and of course we have his 13 rules of leadership that we can all reflect on as well. thank you so much. one of those 13 rules is to share the credit and remain calm and be kind. he also says to have a vision but to be demanding. and from the people that i know that worked with him most closely, they would say he did demand that kind of excellence in work and dedication andy card is a former white house chief of staff to george w. bush but served also as secretary of transportation in the 41 administration. so andy, i'm assuming that you were very saddened by this and we'll get your reflections on his life and what you are thinking this morning. >> so sad to learn of this. yes, my prayers are with alma and the entire family and my wife is very close to alma powell and he was very supportive of i'll say the spouses of all the people who were serving in government during challenging times. colin powell, i first met him in 1983 working for president ronald reagan at the white house and our responsibilities had us interacting regularly during the reagan administration, george h.w. bush and george w. bush administration. so he is a remarkable -- he was a remarkable man. he was a patriot, a soldier, a general, a diplomat. a point of light and compassion, fabulous husband and father and grandfather and a great friend. it's amazing how much he gave not only to the united states, but to the people of the world and he lifted everyone up everywhere he went. and he was -- he would stand on stage but wasn't always looking for the light but looking to empower other people so they could stand on the stage and be recognized. his work as a point of light with the little red wagon, you know, changed people's lives and people don't talk about some of those things. colin powell was a real deal and boy, will he be missed. i really appreciated the candid conversations that we had over policy and over how to describe some of the challenges that we had to face especially during my tenure as chief of staff and helping president bush do such a spectacular job leading the country after 9/11. >> bill: what do you recall from the long weekend in early february of 2003 when it came to convincing colin powell about wmd and that project with saddam hussein. >> secretary powell was very engaged that the president had with the c.i.a., tenant and his team as well as the folks from the defense and state departments. and he asked tough questions. he challenged the intelligence community, not just the intelligence community at the c.i.a. but also defense intelligence community and the work of the state department and their intelligence efforts. so he was appropriately skeptical but he was also committed to helping to advance the mission. i remember he was asking very tough questions as he was getting ready to make his presentation to the united nations and it was sometimes tense. i don't think he was ever forced to say anything he didn't agree to say but he certainly was not pliable. he was stoic and up front and i thought he did a remarkable job. we all have hindsight and foresight but colin powell, looking back, helped us look forward. but it was a tough time for colin powell at that time and there is appropriate tension in the cabinet and colin powell was appropriate whenever he challenged others in the cabinet to help to educate him or give him a chance to educate them. i have great respect -- had great respect for him. >> bill: well stated. thank you for that. >> dana: i wanted to ask you about another huge diplomatic effort he was very much involved in from the inception. it was the president's emergency plan for aids relief. >> oh, he was so committed to the work on aids relief and in the united states and around the world. he also did an awful lot to help the haitian people. the first boat lift from haiti happened at the tail end of the george w. bush administration. you remember thousands of haitians got on the rick ety crafts. it was up to the coast guard to help them not die on the open seas. we brought them to guantanamo. colin powell did a remarkable job of creating a climate where those people could be housed in guantanamo and get ready to go back to haiti and president clinton put him in charge of the effort of helping the haitian government get ready to do a better job taking care of their people. we the end to forget those efforts that he undertook for the united states of america. yes, he was a republican but he was a public servant most. not a republican when he was a general. he was just a general and gave wise counsel to all the people around him and was just an inspiration of leadership. >> dana: great to have you this morning. >> bill: dana you mentioned 13 rules of leadership f, right? one is be careful what you choose, you may just get it. >> dana: the other one i think of you, actually. which is rule number 8. check small things. our first day when we worked together you said the details matter and you care about the details. you are also in terms -- >> bill: marc thiessen is with us, fox news contributor, former speech writer for president bush. i know you've been listening and watching and your reflection now. >> he was an incredible man who lived an incredible life. i met him during the bush administration working for rumsfeld. they tried to steal me. i went to the state department and met with him. >> dana: he knows good people when he sees them. >> he is very incredibly thoughtful. i ended up staying with rumsfeld. he joined the army in 1958 before the march on washington before the civil rights movement. played a very important role in integrating one of our nations most cherished institution. the first african-american national security advise tore, secretary of state. the child of immigrants. parents came from jamaica. his mother was a steam stress. he went to city college of new york, a c student. he rose to such incredible prominence and lived such an incredible life. i think his life is a repudiation of the narrative that america is an irredeemably systemically racist country. he faced racism in his life and overcame it a and achieved so much. in ra systemically racist company his -- >> dana: he gave the graduation speech at howard university. never lose faith in america. its faults are yours to fix, not the curse. there may be differences and disputes within the family but we must not allow the family to be broken into warring factions. >> 100%. he was a patriot who loved this country and who embodied the american dream literally. his parents came from jamaica and saw their son not only become successful but become a great statesman, become a great leader. a universally beloved and recognized leader even by people who disagreed with him. they recognized his accomplishments and goodness. he really embodies what's great about america at a time when we've had so much argument over race, this is a figure and memory we can all unite. >> bill: marc thiessen, nice to have you. if you are a young american and you are kind of confused about what your future holds, do not despair because colin powell entered the city college of new york to study geology during the rotc program that he found his calling. then later graduated at the top of his class. >> dana: his parents produced his name with the -- he changed it to colin after he learned about the u.s. army corp pilot colin. >> bill: he was 84 years of life, colin powell gave so much of that in service to his country and today we say thank you. colin powell dead at the age of 84. >> dana: we'll bring you other news now and the border crisis, of course, continues to escalate into gunfire. mexican cartels regularly firing at u.s. personnel. we're live at the border. we'll bring it to you next. >> the cartels are getting more aggressive and the cartels on the mexican side of the border are beginning to open fire on the national guard. veteran homeowners, great news the lowest mortgage rates you've been waiting for are here. the newday two and a quarter refi has the company's lowest rate in history. 2.25% with an apr of 2.48. save thousands every year. plus there's no money out of pocket and no up front fees. newday is holding the line on interest 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orphanage near port port. we're watching this story, high ransom demanded. >> dana: another bloody weekend in chicago. 22 shots and four killed coming as the mayor and police clash over the city's covid vaccine mandate. we're live in chicago with the details. >> good morning to you. any officers who do not comply with this mandate could be taken off the job as soon as tomorrow. the head of the chicago police union says that could impact as many as half of the city's 10,000 active officers. mayor lori light foot is not backing now for all city employees to either be vaccinated or undergo testing twice a week. >> who are sworn to uphold the law act as if they're above the law. we won't tolerate that. it's not acceptable. >> in anticipation of a potential shortage this weekend cpd leadership notified officers that all time off is restricted until further notice. last week before a judge ordered the union's president to stop talking about the mayor's mandate on social media he urged the rank and file to defy lightfoot's directive. >> any sergeant, lieutenant, captain or above who gives you an order to go in that portal. you are able to refuse the order. they cannot order you to violate your bargaining rights, period. everything else is irrelevant after that. >> next week a judge is expected to weigh in on several lawsuits filed by the mayor and union against each other over the mandate. between now and then it is not clear what will happen to any officers who choose not to comply with that directive. dana. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: high prices at the shelves becoming the new normal. conflicting messages what is causing this backlog. cargo ships remain lined up outside congested ports waiting to be processed. the pressure builds on the white house to clear the bottleneck. transportation secretary pete buttigieg says the issues will continue well into 2022. jonathan serrie live in garden city with more on what's happening there in georgia near the port of savannah. hello there, sir, good morning. >> hi there, bill. we're at the howard shepard truck depot. you can see the stacks and stacks of empty shipping containers waiting to be picked up. nouf i want to show you a live shot from our fox flight team drone, an aerial view of all the activity at this facility. trucks coming in and out bringing goods to and from and shipping containers to and from the nearby port of salve anna. nationwide, there are fewer truckers to handle the increasing number of goods coming into america's ports. many older operators retired during the pandemic. a booming construction industry is luring away younger drivers. and for someone just getting out of high school, trucking is a hard business to get into because federal regulations require commercial truckers to be at least 21 before they can drive across state lines. >> they can drive the full width of texas, the full length of california but they can't cross the line from savannah to make a delivery in south carolina. >> pete buttigieg says his department is working with states to cut some of the red tape for issuing commercial drivers licenses but analysts say the trucker shortage is only part of the problem. there are also inefficiencies. >> the problem with long haul trucking is not when you are on the road. it's when you have to drop it off and wait three hours to unload something. or wait to get it picked up. >> bill, this is really interesting. a couple years ago researchers at m.i.t. did a study and they estimate that if the average american trucker could gain 12 minutes, just 12 minutes a day of drive time on the highways instead of sitting idle that alone would be enough to solve america's trucker shortage. bill. >> bill: maybe technology will make that happen soon. thank you, live from georgia. >> dana: it looks like president biden might have having some trouble taking his own advice despite urging everyone to follow protocols. he and his wife were spotted going through a restaurant maskless. he is not the only one. chicago mayor lori lightfoot broke her rules by going maskless at a baseball game over the weekend. you know what i think they should do? let's end the mask mandates, right? if you are going to nrount them let everybody make their own decision. >> bill: he got vaccinated and there is a booster. why is there a mandate in washington, d.c. for that? >> dana: this is not the first time lori lightfoot might not care. >> bill: white house pressed over the chief of staff's tweet. we got into this at the end of last week that seemed to be endorsing skyrocketing inflation and the supply chain as a high-class problem. mexican cartels getting more bold firing shots at u.s. personnel. mike tobin on the border with us today. >> good morning. gunfire is random and aimed at u.s. positions as recently as this weekend. i'm live at the border. details coming up. as someone who resembles someone else... i appreciate that liberty mutual knows everyone's unique. that's why 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that the texas has down on the border to secure the border. this is escalating into a firing war on each side of the border where texas and our national guard are having to defend themselves and defend the state of texas. >> bill: mike tobin live on the border in texas. good morning. >> good morning, bill. violence between competing factions on the mexican side of the border has been around for a long time and now it's random fire coming across the border. we've captured the tracer rounds and gunfire as cartels take shots at each other but the texas department of public safety confirms as recently as saturday night gunmen on the mexican side are taking pot shots at u.s. personnel. critics point to destabilization at the border. former acting secretary chad wolf blames the biden administration. >> when we see this type of violence along the border firing into the united states and having cartel members in the united states, you have to be very direct with the government of mexico and have them do more and step up their screening and their police force along that northern border. >> now the flow of migrants and illegal border crossing never stops. drone crew spotted a group of six, five men, one woman. this was a group of runners, migrants who hoped to slip into the u.s. without being detected. they were picked up and processed. what you see are the immigrants who cross and turn themselves in at the first opportunity. believing they will be able to stay in the u.s. that's what we saw saturday night when two groups totaling 80 family members, individuals and unaccompanied minors. this as president biden is taking heat from fellow democrats and ngos at work on the border for failing to repeal or not repealing trump-era policies like title 42 which sends people back to their home countries for health reasons or mpp which requires people to stay in mexico while their asylum cases are being processed. back to you. >> bill: nice to sigh, mike tobin ton border today. >> dana: nationwide supply chain issues are impacting our kids' school lunches. states across the country reporting flood supply shortages leaving -- they're seeing the effects firsthand in tennessee. this man's daughter attends the school and what have you experienced? >> thank you, dana and bill. so my daughter came to me a couple weeks ago and said hey, i got four chicken nuggets in a bag with an orange that was going bad. at first we were thinking okay, she is messing with us. but i attended the school board meetings and our director of schools confirmed at the end of a school board meeting and stated they're having supply line issues because of the national crisis. yeah, but with that the supply issues they have to switch out foods. locally we had a image a picture was taken of a school lunch with a tortilla wrapped around a hot dog and lack of ability to serve hot foods because they are relying on the disposable trays that they can't get. they serve food in bags. i know of a child that got a saliad in a bag without a fork. how will they eat the salad without a fork? >> dana: the fact this is actually affecting school lunchs. one thing to say christmas gifts might be late. you might not be able to get a certain thing you want for a while. this is very serious. so what do you think is the school board going to do about it? what can they do? and are parents going to have to pitch in and try to figure out a way to help here? >> we have already pitched in bringing extra snacks with our child to school for her friends. but the school board our director of school stated they were looking for other food vendors to help solve the problem. well, sitting there she also went on to say that they went from looking for food vendors but couldn't find any that could help out because of the national food shortage. sitting there i had questions how many people have you reached out to? have you exhausted the local food vendors? surely somebody wants to help our children. come to find out they have -- that they have not asked these questions. the school board sitting there asked no questions, did not bring up anything about why this is happening. so it's really funny as parents here in the school board we don't have a voice. we can't speak because the protocols and procedures. i couldn't stand up and ask the questions. they're elected to do so. the department of justice is talking about parents as being -- labeling us as domestic terrorists, right? for us here in montgomery county, we don't have to worry about the department of justice silencing us. our school board does that for them. >> dana: anyone who would look at you. a cheerful person trying to find solutions. this is not just happening there in his county. i want to show you the list of states having this problem. from massachusetts to florida and new york, kansas, missouri, utah, ohio, pennsylvania, wisconsin, colorado. all the states are having this problem. thank you for bringing it to our attention. we hope everything gets better soon. we realize you might have to rely on the parents. appreciate your time and dedication to your daughter and her friends. thanks so much. >> thank you, yes. >> dana: condolences are pouring in as america remembers colin powell. the former u.s. secretary of state died today at 84 years old. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm dana perino. >> bill: dana. good morning. we're remembering the life of the great american general powell's family saying he died this morning due to complications from covid and today is being remembered as a soldier, a leader, a public servant and american patriot. president george w. bush released a statement reading this. laura and i are deeply saddened by the death of colin powell. he was a great public servant. many presidents relied on his counsel and experience and a favorite of presidents. he earned the presidential medal of freedom twice and highly respected at home and abroad and most important colin was a family man and friend. national correspondent jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon. >> ask anyone at the pentagon and in the u.s. military about their reaction to the death of colin powell and one word comes to mind. integrity. the first black national security advisor, first black chairman of the joint chiefs and first black secretary of state. colin powell broke barriers and made history. a soldier for 35 years he will be remembered for the powell doctrine during desert storm and first gulf war as chairman of the joint chiefs at the pentagon. vital national security interests? do we have a clear, attainable objective? have the risk and costs by fully analyzed? have another means been fully exhausted? is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement. ? is the action support evidence by the american people? do we have international support? he told them secretary of state madeleine albright regarding the use of the u.s. military in the balkans u.s. troops should not be used as toy soldiers and his pottery barn rule, you break it, you own it after the invasion of afghanistan and iraq after 9/11 when the u.s. military ignored the powell doctrine and did not have an exit strategy. born to jamaican parents and immigrants. he served two tours in vietnam where his worldview was shaped. training in georgia he faced racism, injured in vietnam forcing an early end to that first tour. he rose through the ranks and as lieutenant general was made national security advisor under ronald reagan after the iran-contra scandal. as secretary of state under george w. bush despite deep skepticism about the iraq invasion he presented the purchase ported intelligence suggesting saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. lloyd austin traveling in eastern europe issued the following statement. >> the world lost one of the greatest leaders that we have ever witnessed. i lost a tremendous personal friend and mentor. he has been my mentor for a number of years. he always made time for me and i could also go to him with tough issues. he always had great counsel. i feel as if i have a hole in my heart and it is not possible to replace a colin powell. we will miss him. >> colin powell passed away this morning at walter reed. >> dana: fox news senior political analyst brit hume joins us on the phone. always love to hear your experiences and your thoughts about these american patriots that served all those years. he was 84 years old and died this morning, brit. >> my memories of colin powell date back to 1989, early part of 1990 when the united states decided to invade panama. a conflict that many people have forgotten all about. it was the -- the purpose was to topple the dictatorship of noriega and his government declared war at the united states. there was tremendous scepty sis many about the use of american military force and how effective it could be even in a situation like that. colin powell came forward to brief the press on this. his briefings were absolutely dazzling. i think he is widely remembered as one of the great briefers of all time. he was articulate, he was clear, he was to the point, he was knowledgeable, he was on it and dominated these briefings. he was later the architect of the first gulf war, which was a resounding success and a reflection of the powell doctrine that jennifer mentioned. the united states should have clear, well articulated objectives in any military operation and they should be conducted with overwhelming force. that was certainly the case in that one. powell's briefings were spectacular. he was a gentleman and talented military officer and indeed public official as i think i've ever known. >> bill: wro*u. brit, what do you recall from his considerations from going from a lifetime of duty through the military to cross over possibly which did not happen, into a new career of politics? >> he was urged to do so by people in both parties. he was extraordinarily popular with the american people who saw this remarkable man who came from basically humble beginnings to rise to the very senior positions in the government. he was not really at the time particularly controversial and people felt here is a man could be elected president. both parties were after him. he thought it over. his wife didn't want him to do it. he decided not to do it. because he just said he just didn't have the heart for it. and who knows? i think he could have been elected. but he made that decision. >> dana: he went on to endorse president obama in the second term and then, of course, endorsed joe biden in 2020. he had been fairly independent up until a political appointee under the george w. bush administration. what do you think about that? >> he was thought of as a republican because he had reached the senior positions under presidents reagan, bush 41 and then bush 43 where he became secretary of state. but his political views were a little unclear. and, of course, over time he ended up resisting military actions that some of the colleagues in the bush 43 cabinet were in favor of. so he was -- he was a man of somewhat indistinct political leanings and eventually soured on the republican party, endorsing president obama. and then, of course, he couldn't stand donald trump. couldn't stand him and d made i pretty clear. he ended up endorsing joe biden. i would love to know how he actually ended up feeling about that. >> dana: i wondered the same. >> bill: your first answer about panama and 191, january of that year, i think the point you were leading us to is very interesting because america militarily was kind of back on its heels with the stain of vietnam concluding in 1975 and the forays militarily were rather tepid. somalia under bill clinton. we were in and out within weeks. >> it was very brief. >> >> bill: powell was at the for front leading militarily to the world's leader. >> there was a time there was such hesitancy about the use of military force. colin powell actually was not a great advocate of its continual use. but he believed it could be effective and that there were conditions that had to be met for it to be effective. it was the powell doctrine. i recall vividly after the success of the gulf war the first gulf war, which was over in a matter of days, very few american casualties, a wipe-out victory and unquestioned success, george h.w. bush said we've licked vietnam syndrome forever. that may not be an exact quote but very close. that's what the attitude toward the use of military force was affected by, called vietnam syndrome. we ended up pulling out of there, military defeat after many years and tens of thousands of american casualties and so military force was in bad repute at the time. here came this stunning military success carried out in a very short period of time with overwhelming force as powell always argued for. and that was -- that i think put military -- the use of military force back on the table as something that could be employed without tremendous political consequences. >> bill: thank you, brit. great to get your reflections. general jack keane, retired four star general fox news military analyst. welcome to our coverage. you have been watching along with us throughout the past 90 minutes or so since the news broke. your thoughts on the life of colin powell and his contribution to america? >> my thoughts certainly and prayers go out to alma and the family. and he will be missed significantly. colin powell was a towering figure in american life and history. he was respected around the world. he was a gifted natural leader who had this commanding presence about himself and an unflappable temperament. and as such, he became one of america's great soldier statesmen in the vein of eisenhower and george marshall. he grained prominence because of his leadership and operational capability to be able to transition to a very complicated world of foreign policy and national security and politics. and be able to make that transition and be as effective as he was certainly set him apart from many of his peers. on the personal side, colin powell is disarming when you meet him. he doesn't wear his rank on his sleeves. he is so personable and kind and compassionate. and he listens and he respects the view of others. and i think it's humble beginnings in the bronx. he never, ever lost sight of those roots and what it meant to him. and why he had such a natural love of his troops and soldiers. they were always on his mind. whether secretary of state or chairman of the joint chiefs he was dealing with foreign policy and national security always in the back of his mind, what is the impact going to be on our troops? they were always a part of his life. and his decision making. and very much a part of the love that he had in his life. and i think the thing that he really accomplished in terms of history, he fought in the vietnam war as an infantryman. that meant he was up close and saw the horror of it. it helps defines you when it happens at such a young age. he was part of the generation, bill and dana, that rebuilt the united states military. we became a voluntary military and become professionalized after the huge strategic failure in vietnam. it was a catalyst going forward. let's get this right. as brit mentioned the powell doctrine was part of it. most ofist -- most of it had to do with the skills that people developed and the organizations developed and the capabilities. morale was sky high and we saw that unfold in just cause in panama. colin powell, when he first got the briefing to take down a dictator noriega in panama. it was presented we would build up forces over days and a couple of weeks and then conduct this invasion. and powell looked at them and said why are we doing that? we've been investing in fighting the night. we've been training all of our soldiers. let's go down and take the thug out during the middle of the night. that's exactly what we did. we parachuted in there in the middle of the night with rangers, with delta, with others and in about three or four hours decapitated that dictator. most people didn't see much of that because it happened so quickly. but america saw the unfolding of america's military that reached its prowess in the 20th century when colin powell was chairman of joint chiefs during the gulf war and they saw american conventional power on display. the fruition of a generation of rebuilding the military after vietnam. there sits colin powell in the highest position in the military during the unfolding of that campaign. certainly he was an absolute reflection of what was taking place on the ground because he and many of his peers were responsible for what unfolded there in rebuilding this military. it was there, bill and dana, that the american people began to fall in love with the american military once again. because they got to see them up close and they got to see their passion and their commitment to america and their willingness to sacrifice and their ability to articulate. colin powell knew if you have a v.i.p. around send them to see the troops and let the troops talk to them and they will do it better than the generals or senior ncos or officers. yes, he will be missed, bill, very significantly. >> bill: thank you, general. terrific history. well done. thank you for coming on today. >> dana: we also have harold ford junior a former democratic tennessee congressman. you are close with the family. maybe you could give us reflections about him behind the scenes, the colin powell we didn't get to see every day. >> first thanks for having me. my prayers also go out as they did from brit and general keane to mrs. powell, to linda, ann and michael and all the grandkids. you can only echo what both britt and general keane who summed it up so well. i would add one word. general powell soared above the pollz. we didn't know if he was a democrat or republican. what was clear was his 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to them. they should know we as a nation grieve. i think the words spoken today. i thought earlier today dana you were so good on one of the morning shows you talked about counsel and advise he gave you and his observations about leaders around the globe and how foreign policy leaders and american politicians should think about and view leaders that we deal with and diplomats we're confronted with having to sit down with to hammer out solutions and diplomatic solutions. one of his great passions later in life was his nonprofit work. he cared so deeply about trying to help young kids particularly black kids graduate from high school. he and mrs. powell dedicated a big part of their lives to finding solutions and public/private partnership solutions to help black kids graduate from high school and recognized many of these drop-outs occurred in just a small number of zip codes across the country. he was able to marshall resources to confront and to try to bring about better outcomes for kids and ultimately for the country. my prayers, my family's prayers and condolences to the powell family and a great deal of gratitude for all that you have given and all that he gave to make our country a better place. >> bill: very well stated. he was an easy person to like, wasn't he, harold? the word that jack keane used was disarming. i think that's how most people would have found him had they had the opportunity to meet him. >> he had this towering sense of humor that was part of that disarming nature. you recognized what he had done and who he was. in my lifetime general keane talked about the great military generals to advise presidents. this leader, this american and patriot advised those that wanted to make america a better place. that was part of that armament that he had that made you want to feel intimidated in front of him. but he was able to distill and impart knowledge and wisdom without making you feel smaller or beneath him as you absorbed it. >> dana: that's a real skill and a wonderful way to be. i will try to say it like jesse watters, harold ford junior, thank you for being with us. we appreciate you. >> bill: dr. marty makary, physician, professor at johns hopkins university. welcome to our coverage. one bit of information the family put out. he died from complications with covid. he was 84 but was fully vaccinated. i know you did not attend to colin powell. can you help us understand how you can be fully vaccinated and still get complications from covid in a condition like that? >> it's a tragedy anytime anyone dice, especially an american hero. he got good care. the family says he died of complications related to covid. so we don't know if he died directly from covid. i would remind people the vaccine was never intended and never shown to be 100% effective. it is not a force field put around people. the cdc reports a total of 7,000 deaths among those who have been fully vaccinated. it is unclear if he got a booster. we know he had an immunocompromised state. he is multiple myeloma and a second cancer on top of that in the past. and while we understood he had done well from that it is an immunocompromised state. >> dana: so that would explain perhaps why there is reporting that alma, his wife also had a breakthrough case and vaccinated but had a breakthrough case and responded to treatment. is it possible i guess if you have a comorbidity you are more susceptible even if you've been vaccinated? >> absolutely, dana. that's exactly right. he was probably in the highest risk category there is both based on his age of 84 and his multiple co-morbidities. he would have been an ideal candidate for some of the therapeutics out there. one that is not yet available on the market. it would have been a good time for compassionate use and cut death to zero in high-risk vi.ds also the vaccine dosing and spacing schedule may need to be modified for those immunosuppressed. many of us were checking antibody levels and when they were low we would give the third dose. >> bill: thank you. marty makary reacting to the breaking news this morning. thank you, doctor. >> dana: great to have you. >> bill: the former vice president dick cheney released a statement. working with him during operations desert shield and desert storm i saw firsthand general powell's dedication to the united states and his commitment to the brave and selfless men and women who serve our country in uniform. he was a trailblazer and role model for so many. he -- it goes on. >> dana: the story of the immigrant family is also one to think about here for a moment. that you can -- america provides this dream and this capability that if you work hard you find your calling and you keep going and you could rise to prominence and live a very fulfilling life and serve your country, open a business, all of these things. the promise of america was there. he knew that and reminded students of that in any of the commencement speeches. america, the problems -- 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doesn't a lot of workers will be out of a job tomorrow. >> dana: replicating across the country as well. thanks, dan. >> bill: biden administration changing its tune announcing it plans to reinstate the trump administration's remain in mexico policy set to resume next month in november. president biden repeatedly slamming that policy back in march of 2020 as a candidate, he tweeted this. donald trump's remain in mexico policy is dangerous, inhumane and goes against everything we stand for as a nation of immigrants. my administration will end it and he did. want to bring in texas lieutenant governor dan patrick. a court has ordered the policy to be reinstated. there is a catch in all this. mexico has to agree to resume the policy. so what comes of it then? >> well, i think that president biden has come to this decision, bill, not because he wants to because the courts have forced him to and because his polling on the issue depending the poll you see is 25% of americans approve of what he is doing on the border and 75% disapprove. what he needs to do is ask donald trump to come back and negotiate with mexico for him. he obviously cannot negotiate his way out of afghanistan, or mexico found a way to work with president trump to be sure that we kept the mpp, the migrant protection protocols in place and a consistent policy, bill, that helped reduce the flow of people coming to this country illegally. and right now we are looking at over a million people apprehended this year probably another 2 or 3 million have come in illegally and we're totally -- it is out of control on the border and the president by the way, we can't wait until mid november. he needs to do this today. >> dana: if you look here over 1,336,296 encounters with customs and border patrol. that don't include the gotaways and also people that -- the other thing that i'm curious about. we had a report earlier from mike tobin about the mexican cartel shooting at our american soldiers. that is something that would raise a lot of red flags and united states government says this will not stand. do you know if they've spoken to the mexicans about this? >> i don't know. they don't speak to texas much about it, either. they are totally bankrupt on this situation in terms of leadership. kamala harris has never been to the border except el paso, which is a one off. the president has yet to be here since he has taken over. they either know what's going on, which i believe they do. they can't be that stupid not to watch this news and see what's happening. this is deliberate on their part and they want to stretch this out as long as they can. dana, let me say this clearly. we've spent over $3 billion of texas taxpayer money this year erecting fence, barbed wire, wall, national guard to the border. more state troopers and now we're actually seeing the cartels so bold because biden is doing nothing that they flash their guns on the other side. they are shooting over at us. the biden administration will lead to someone getting killed on the border. and it will be on the white house because there will be a time if you start shooting at our national guard and our dps. a lot of people who haven't been down here don't realize some areas of the border less than a quarter mile across the river or less than that. so we're prepared, we are prepared to respond and we are sending more troops there. i think the message should go to the biden administration if there is any blood shed on texas soil, whether it's a national guard, state trooper, innocent civilian, they are going to be responsible for that death. that will be on their head. if they don't take control of this border it is going to happen. >> bill: back to this question about remain in mexico. what if they say no? >> what if they say no? the first thing, bill, the biden administration needs to do is secure the border. secure -- they are doing nothing. border patrol down there, good men and women are overrun, they are like clerks in a hotel checking people into the country. we have no border security other than what texas is providing on the border. so consistent pollz. he should have not stopped building the wall. he should have not stopped enforcement, should have not stopped mpp. this salon his hands. it is a threat to texas and a threat to america. he is violating the constitution. article 4 section 4. government must protect us. >> bill: trump put pressure on mexico city to get them to get to the issue. will this administration pressure mexico city to get the policy reinstated or not? >> unless he brings trump in to do the negotiation my guess is he will not. he has shown absolute failure at every level, bill. >> bill: if we anticipate will be reenacted in november it is an open question whether or not it will. the bottom line as of today. >> it's an open question and there is also a story out now that 16,000 people have been released out of ice custody with covid and so look at this policy. they are telling -- threatening employees to get fired from their job if they don't take a shot but releasing covid positive people into the country. meanwhile fauci, with no credibility with most of the american people unless they are on the far left anymore. he talks about football crowds and maybe you shouldn't get together with christmas. when is the last time fauci criticized this administration for allowing a million plus people to come in mostly untested, many with covid? has he said a word about that? that man has no credibility with the american people anymore. the biden administration has no credibility with most of the american people anymore. if you could have an election this november he would be voted out of office. >> bill: big showdown in virginia about two weeks away. could education be the deciding factor in a very tight race for governor? nerates areage still near all time lows. and home values are at all time highs. that makes right now the best time in 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remains closer than many expected. democrat terry mccauliffe is vying to win back his former seat as governor and holds a slight lead over youngkin. democrat heavy weights are called in. jill biden and voting rights activist stacey abrams were there. >> how many voted heefr put your hands up? who hasn't voted? okay. okay. folks, listen to me carefully. those that have not voted make me a promise you'll vote this week. >> dana: turnout has been sluggish. suburban parents frustrated with covid-19 restrictions and curriculum problems have become far more active in local politics and seem only further inspired by the justice department's decision to intervene in school board parent dispute. now tomorrow night republican glen youngkin will make a major announcement saying he will highlight some of the issues with the federal government getting involved with schools and we'll be there tomorrow as he brings out a plan that he says will combat all of that. the question, though, remains will parent enthusiasm overall translate into voter turnout? if so that could have major implications for how mid-term campaigns will be run nationwide. >> dana: fascinating to watch. thank you so much. >> bill: president biden face being backlash after appearing without a mask indoors at a restaurant in d.c. over the weekend. that violates that city's strict indoor mask mandate. he wasn't the only high-profile democrat breaking the rules. chicago mayor lori lightfoot seeing maskless at a packed arena on sunday as the chicago sky clinched the championship in the wnba. joe concha. did you know that if you are older than 2 indoors in a restaurant in washington you must wear a max. the president wasn't wearing one. he has been vaccinated and he has had the booster. think he even needs to wear one? >> no, i say he shouldn't have to wear one in that situation given what you just laid out. he has had three vaccine shots already. he will wear a mask, bill, on zoom calls with world leaders and wear it walking to marine one and rare times he speaks to reporters he lowers the mask and speaks up close. he basically wears a mask whenever the cameras are rolling. not a ringing endorsement of the highly effective vaccine. to not wear a mask when he thinks the cameras are off is par for the hypocrisy course. >> bill: anthony fauci was on "fox news sunday" with chris wallace. i'm sure you saw football over the weekend. stadiums packed. at one point anthony fauci was concerned it would be a super spreader event. nbc did a fact check. let's roll this. >> as soon as i saw it i thought covid is about to have a feast. what did you think? >> i thought the same thing. it is really unfortunate. >> but it never happened. covid cases, hospitalizations and deaths now all down nationwide. >> bill: which by the way is all very good news. what did you make of that, joe? >> i found it fascinating that nbc did a fact check of an msnbc show, msnbc host. that was a package done and pre-produced. they could have used any clip of dr. fauci making that argument. that was interesting. the impression overall of dr. fauci has gone from most admired and trusted person in the country to where he is now. listen to this one headline. business insired, the spring of 2020. now you see dr. fauci making conclusions based on the political calculation and feelings than being apolitical and sticking to the data. college football games outside bad, sturgis biker rally bad. obama birthday party with hundreds of maskless people silent. thousands of covid positive migrants into the country is crickets. the sold-out crowds you see across the country are exhibit a and b and the rams just scored again on the giants. how did that happen? that game won't end. >> bill: very clever. thank you, joe, nice to see you, joe concha. thank you, joe. >> dana: let me in on the joke. i missed that one. >> bill: the giants got blown out on sunday and so he was suggesting they were still scoring on a monday morning. >> 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[people shouting] >> dana: a passenger in the car was ejected when the vehicle crashed. the driver was still inside. they pulled the driver through the window seconds before the car was fully engulfed in flames and they join us now. officers, thank you so much. chris, let me ask you when you came upon the scene, what did you see? >> yes, ma'am. when i pulled up on the scene the officers were on scene. i could hear them yelling somebody was still trapped in the burning car, which was just rapidly growing larger as far as flames go. i ran over and tried to help him as much as i could. >> bill: matthew, you are the one screaming, right? you are the voice we hear, right? yelling to the person inside the car. tell us in what condition did you find that individual? >> apparently right when i went up there initially i looked in the vehicle and wasn't able to see anybody. i though t the coast was clear. but there was a split second where i saw somebody slump over in the passenger side door and that's when i knew and said hey, we have someone over here and at that time i was the only person near the car. luckily this guy was just a few feet away and able to hear me say hey, we have another person. that's when he jumped up and was able to help me try to get him out. if i didn't have him with me, things would be a lot different. >> dana: what was the condition of the pass en -- the driver that you pulled out? >> when we pulled him out and initially contacted him he was unconscious and started to scream and holler as we were pulling him free of the vehicle. just sounded like he was in pain and slowly coming to as we pulled him out just moving around and just in pain. >> bill: fellows, it is dramatic. i watched the entire thing and just to hear you guys running into danger like that is an extraordinary thing. matthew, i understand this happened right in front of the police department. is that the case? >> yes, sir, yeah. this is something you can't write up. at the time when it happened i was scratching my head in disbelief because here i am driving a police car by a police station and a vehicle passes me going what i presumed to be 120 miles per hour. there was a moment of this can't be real. no way somebody just passed a police car at 3:00 in the morning with nobody on the road in front of a police station at 120 miles an hour. >> bill: ironic that you are there to save this man's life. you know the flames are burning nearby. what is going through your head? can the gas tang blow? -- gas tank blow? what are you thinking? >> i'm not a firefighter. i don't know fire but i know what can happen as things go wrong. as i was watching the vehicle when it started to flip in the air, initially it wasn't on fire. when i saw it catch on fire i knew in my head things changed dramatically. we're dealing with fire and you don't know -- you have can't control that and you don't know what's going to happen once that element comes into play. >> dana: something like this when you talk about matt being with and one of his recruits what do you think young people who might want to become police officers should take away from your experience? >> as a young person getting in this profession, things can happen like this all the time or just every so often but things happen fast and split second thinking is needed. just young people today wanting to get into the profession, it is the best job in the world but it has a lot of aspects to it that are hard and hard to deal with and hard to process. young people need to be motivated and have their mind right and know they can work through things like this and just make a positive influence. >> bill: how is he doing? is he okay the guy you saved? >> i haven't heard. what i understand he is doing fine and especially from what i know from on the scene it sounded like everyone would be okay and that was the most important thing. all of us included. >> bill: good job, guys. chris and matthew, well done. garland police, thanks, guys. >> thank you. >> bill: good guys, huh? want to be happier? do you want to be happier? >> dana: is it possible? i don't know. >> bill: maybe consider moving to hawaii. a survey from prescription management service nice rx ranks hawaii as the happiest state in the country. connecticut second followed by new jersey. >> dana: massachusetts, minnesota, california, maryland in that order. washington >> bill: i can understand hawaii. >> dana: yes. i'm jersey strong. >> bill: but second, third? >> dana: absolutely. here is harris faulkner with "the faulkner focus". >> harris: we begin with breaking news. an american patriot is gone. former secretary of state colin powell has died. general powell served under president george w. bush and was the nation's first black secretary of state. he passed away this morning as walter reed with complications from coronavirus. i'm harris faulkner. condolences filling up social media from all corners of the political landscape. many remember him as an american hero and calling it a sad

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