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see the new tricky got for the kiddos, cracks them up. >> what is it? >> magic. >> they look pretty real. >> they are. >> no trick. >> lock me up, i'll escape. >> ta da. >> how did you . >> this young man doesn't know it yet, he is a fly in the spider's web. the spider has been waiting for this moment to strike. >> i give up. what is the trick? >> this. >> how do i get out? yo >> you don't. >> this is john wayne gacy, the killer next door whose evil is the stuff of legend. a man with two faces. who hit his his secrets like he his the bodies of his victims, but the truth can't stay buried forever. ♪ ♪ i am john douglas, as an fbi agent, i study hundreds of serial killers and talked to many of them face-to-face. when i joined the fbi, behavior sciences unit in 1977, my job was to decode the minds of america's most notorious serial killers using criminal profiling. >> officers are bringing in cases how can we understand the cases if we don't talk to the bad guys? >> this study was about understanding different patterns of criminal behavior. the purpose of the interviews was to learn from the ofenders, we realized we have a gold mind here. no one had done this before. >> i think of john gacy, i think of him as the killer clown, how is he able to get away with so many of these homicides over this period of the time without the police even knowing about it. >> i don't take the case lightly, i am the one accused of killing 33 young men and boys, 22 of them were identified. what these guys were patented -- painted up to be were altar boys and i was the big bad wolf that snapped them up. >> gacy a complicated killer, a civic leader who once met with first lady rosalynn carter, and the predator who was a social -- biria he lured dozen of young men in his house outside of chicago illinois he raped them, tortured them, and buried them in his crawlspace until no more bodies would fit. >> people said i molested them in the lumberyard or picked them up hitchhiking this is ridiculous. people want to believe everything that has come out about me. >> i was a detective, in the criminal investigation division in illinois. total of 26 bodies were recovered from the crawlspace. number 28 was recovered from under a barbecue grill. the 29th from the property buried in concrete in the addition to his garage. the other 4 were dumped into into the river. >> he confessed to murderers but after he was convicted he said he didn't do it. >> he is a perpetual liar but i was determined to get to them truth. that is what i do. i am the real mind hunter, the stories that i'm about to tell you are all fact, no fiction. >> let me tell you about myself, iea joined fbi in 1970, i was a sniper on s.w.a.t. team, i became a hostage negotiator and recruited by behavior science, psychology, it it is learning to walk in the shoes of the subject and the offender when you analyze a case. before i understood what it was about, i was asked to teach the subject to cops across the country, that is when i had an idea. >> we are road schools in these days, go to l.a. and teach lapd for a week then boise, idahos, i told my partner, we have down time, let's do something productive. i said let's talk to experts inom prison. i want to interview violent afonders and learn from them, i had no idea this would morph to a program. >> our prison visits sooned to an official research project, there was no short shortage of cases to focus on. in 1970s and 80, america was plagued by some of the worst serial offenders, the son of sam, the coed killer and john wayne gacy, possible inspiration for penny wise in stephen king a it, he killed 33 young men and buried them in the crawlspace of his home. these stories and more on what you hear in my new "fox nation" series the killer next door. >> john would say, what did we learn from each offender, each one had something unique they did we could add to profile of killers. >> serial killers don't just exist in shadows, they walk beside us, live in our neighborhoods and make our localse news, over course of 50 years, i know dozens of the predators through my work on hundreds of horrific cases. >> they are not like monsters, they look like us, but why are gacy said that counts could get away with murder. >> secrets you wouldn't know unless you talkedded to the killers. like iu ea did. over the next hour i'll give you a sneak peek at some of the cases, when what -- what i learned from them starting with gary hide nick, he created a house of horrors in 1980s, most disturbing i have seen. i have seen. in this my work would prove pivotal in whether he would suffer -- serve life in prison or have a chance to live among us. 1988 i was asked to help prosecutor to make the casey cep he was not insane time of his crimes, if found not guilty by reason of inan he insane. >> gary, is one of the most interesting and scary serial killers that this nation as known, because of whom he targeted. and the way he tortured his victims. >> he was a sexual saidist. it was defined. and i want to prove he was a sane individual. he knew right from wrong. >> the cases of 6 women he tortured in a pit in a philadelphia basement a needed to examine. in 4 months he kidnapped 6 women and held them captive in his basement, they were african-american and all were tortured, two would make them out alive. >> people ask is there a reason that someone becomes a murderer or rapist. yes, you have to final out why. -- find out why. it's clinically proven, reduces inflammation and comes in original prescription strength. salonpas. it's good medicine. (eerie ambient music) serial killers often target the vulnerable, >> serial killers often target the vulnerable, female vehicles, and gary heidnik washe no exception he tooktu 6 women captive over the course of 4 months subjecting them to rape and torture. what made him act that way. >> gary heidnik of born in suburb of cleveland, ohio, 1943. to alcoholic mother. a father. alcohol was his issue also, he was abusive. the mother and father, disfunctional. >> his childhood was a difficult childhood, he was one of two children, he had a younger brother. his father was dictatorial. >> due to the abuse he received d at hands of his father and mother, he developed bed wetting. this would continue to his teenage years. the father handled it by taking bed sheets and hanging them out window or a closing line for the world to see, to him it was a joke, he painted a bull's eye on the back of his hands he would kick his kids, when they went to school it was like an invitation, kick me in the butt. >> bed wetting due to emotional distress and arson and animal cruelty are behaviors many serial predators have in common, they form homicidal triangle. the abuse broke his spirit, just because someone is abused as a child, does not always mean they will become violent. gary's stability is further endangered when his family brakes apart, his -- breaks apart, his mom remarried multiple times, some were african-american. that enraged gary's father. >> his father hatred toward african-american had an influence on gary. was gary doing this to get back at his father or undermine on those philosophies his father entertained. or was gary living out his father's diatribe by targeting african-american women. >> after settling into a black neighborhood in philly, he starts a church and o begins luring in vulnerable women. >> in some sense it was genius on his part but it speaks too deeply embedded racism av that moment, and how women of color did not matter, black women did not matter. reporter: in may 1978 he abducted a woman he knows roberta davidson. >> o she was mentally challenges, he had sex with her on several occasions when police came to find her, he put her in a storage facility in the basement. >> gary was arrested and charge of on 7 counts including kidnapping, rape, false impressment until we came up for patrol.re >> did you take classes while inunicars . >> while incarcerated. >> any visits or family members. >> he came up for parole. he told parole board he could not answer their questions because the devil put a cookie in his throat. he did the entire 5 years. >> he is a manipulative narcissistic personality, the case of gary heidnik a perfect one to profile in the killer next door, it was his own neighbor who alerted police to a noxious odored from his front door after he murdered a woman. >> he boiled her head in a pot of water for days. >> he cut up all of the body parts but with the head he boiled it so long the teeth would float out of the gums. the smell was called by a neighbor, he called police, police came. >> you don't smell that? >> yeah. that -- burned a roast, it stinks. >> mm-hmm. >> that one call me in again? >> i look -- just take care of it. >> they were satisfied with his burned roast. >> he put her through a meat grinder, and he put it in dog food, and fed it to other victims. >> there was a lot more to gary heidnik's story, in full episode we dive deep to control he used on his victims while hiding in plain sight. the need for manipulation, and -- dom nation and control is the same in all serial killers. >> by 1985, criminal profiling was catching on. two agents said they received a call from lexington. sheriff department, there was a abduction. >> the missing girl was shari fay smith. >> shari was blond hair, blue eye fair skin, and beautiful with a smile that drew you m in. the day of may 31, shari was add gradration rehearsal, our house of search miles from the town lexer -- lexington, he would get the mail, and drive down the driveway. this day, he got out of the car, she didn't make it. >> her father saw her pull up and get out of the car. he left the room for a moment. when he returned. the car was there. but shari was nowhere to be seen. >> you get a case like that, we're trying to establish is the motive first the crime. is a criminal everyone ter -- enterprise or sexually motivated. >> the smith family received a phone call around 2:20 a.m. monday morning after shari was abducted. >> there was a man on the other end of the line, and he asked to speak to my mom. his voice was distorted. he began to say what shari had to from her swimsuit to her white baggy shorts and jewelry she was wearing. >> the caller said they would receive a letter in themo mail from shari. >> my mother hung up the phone, here face just fell. and she said, that man has shari. >> the investigators went to the post office, they intercepted the letter. and they brought it tote smith fam -- to the smith family, it was shari's writing on the letter. they knew it was from shari. >> she wrote last will and testament, i love you, mommy, daddy, robert and richard and everyone else, my thoughts will be with and in you, and then, casket closed. i love you all, so, she underlined damn much, sorry dad, i had to cus for once, all my love always shari smith. i love you a lot. >> i could not fathom or understand how someone could writetr a letter like that. only thing i'm thinking, it must be strong faith she is not afraid of dying, she is going to heaven. it was just a crushing blow. and brought sorrow to all of us. we have to find this guy, we have to do something ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ got a couple of bogeys on your six, limu. they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual so they only pay for what they need. what do you say we see what this bird can do? 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>> hello this is -- >> i need to speak to your mother. >> can i ask who is calling. >> no. >> hold on just a second please. >> hello. >> have you received the mail today? >> yes, i have. >> do you believe me now? >>ha well, i'm not really sure i believe you, i have not had any wore from sherri, i need to know that -- cherry is well. >> you will know in two or three days. >> a lot of f my research to the criminal mind was done by interviews serial predators face-to-face, after their arrests and convictions. but in the case of sherri smith. i was involved from the get go, trying to come up with techniques and a suspect profile that catch the abductor, but the w question was, would to be in time. >> we would absolutely not giveth up hope. that sherri was alive, she would be found we were ge to get her back to had to be the answer. >> wherers there has been a kidnapping and a murder it happens almost within the first 10 hours. you don't have a lot of time, police do not have a lot of time to move on a case, whatever the fantasy is, they have to kill fast, that is part of the killing experience. >> police quickly put a recording device on the telephone, theyke also waited for smith family to try to keep him on the phone as long as they could, to possibly track where he was calling from. >> the case took surprising twists and turns, you will never believe how he was actually caught. >> i for one will never forget meeting him face-to-face, notcr what i said but what he said to me, he was sexually motivated to commit his crimes, someone who was a nobody who wanted to be a somebody. in that way he was like one of the most not -- -- note -- serial killers of all-times, david berkowitz, the son of sam. >> i thought you had a class tomorrow. >> i don't feel like going home quite yet . >> where? >> right there. >> oh, yeah. >> you expect they are rough and sinister look characters. but ind fact, one of most dangerous criminals i had met, looked so normal and ordinary. >> is he coming over here? >> start the car. >> start the [ bleep ] car, oh, myer god. [ sound of gunfire ] what would police officer believe that new york city would. -- david berkowitz was a serial killer in late 1970s in new york city, he put the fear of god in the entire city for over a year. >> he killed 6 people, wounded 7 of them. >> i interviewed berkowitz when he was in prison for two years, he was at attica. we were just starting our project, we were interviews serial killers, berke berkowitz was a goodle study for us. >> he said after dark the peaceful stretch of greenery turned into a temple for him and a cult that called themselves 22 -- >> a possibility remains police cracked part of the case and shore son of sam killers are still on the loose. >> i sat down with berkowitz, nicknamed the son of sam to get to the truth before he had time to change his story. david berkowitz, the son of sam, >> in 1976. there were approximately 1600 murders in new york city. 2019. with 1 million more people in new york city there were 318 homicides. >> crime had surged wildly. south bronx was deteriorating a lot. you did not feel safe going out. >> the crime wave that son of sam commits his first shooting, before he was done, 6e people would be dead, and 7 wounded, including one man lucky enough to survive, and tell his story. >> we were not making out for long, next thing, it sounded like the car exploded. >> go, now. now. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> tech: that's service the way you need it. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ managing type 2 diabetes? on it. -on it. on it, with jardiance. meet the people who are managing type 2 diabetes and heart risk with jardiance. jardiance is a once-daily pill that can reduce the risk of cardiovascular death for adults who also have known heart disease. so it could help save your life from a heart attack or stroke. jardiance also lowers a1c. and it may help you lose some weight. jardiance can cause serious side effects including dehydration, genital yeast or urinary tract infections, and sudden kidney problems. ketoacidosis is a serious side effect that may be fatal. a rare, but life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking jardiance and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this bacterial infection, ketoacidosis, or an allergic reaction, and don't take it if you're on dialysis or have severe kidney problems. taking jardiance with a sulfonylurea or insulin may cause low blood sugar. lower a1c and lower risk of a fatal heart attack? yep, they're on it with jardiance. ask your doctor about jardiance. >> let's go, now, now. [ sound of gunfire ] [screaming] >> i was shot in the top of the back of the head, my long hair was holding in the blood from the head wound, that i didn't realize i had had. had. >> only recollection i have to visual of broken glass, i didn't see anyone. >> it would make him question, who shot him and why. it is the why you won't believe when you see full episode profiling the son of sam on the killer next door. as fascinating as berke berkowitz was to sit down with. was my first one. s man called coed murderer, his namee is ed temper. >> he got name coed pillar from newspapers, his victims were coeds associated with university of california in santa cruz. >> in 1970s can't -- santa cruz was tense that be a woman at this time would have been scary. >> not far from here a week ago today 4 more bodies were discovered. in a connection of murders that numbersoc 10. >> bodies were appearing everywhere, people were missing, bodies coming up on theg ocean. >> the area in and around campus became a killer's camping ground, he was identified only after confessing, he was first serial killer i interviewed face-to-face, his crimes were some of most grisly. i wanted to know how and why he chose his victims, what made him tick. >> i need to know the fantasy and how it begins and why it begins. how could someone commit such a horrific crime against others, was there a triggering mechanism, was he born this way or made, made to be who he is today. people often ask me if serial killers are born >> people asked me if serial killers are born or made, is there something innate in their dna that makes them kill. i said genetics loads gun, personality, and psychology that aim it and life experiences that pull the trigger, that i could said of w all serial killers we have profiled. on the killer next door, but never more true then for ed kemper. >> never amount to anything, get down there, i told you to stay away. >> when ed was 8, his mother wanted nothing to do with him, she stuck him in the cellar of the house. his mother would try the him horrifically. >> he spent his elementary years locked in the cellar and had dark fantasies staring to the fiery furnace. >> he would play games with his sister, games -- he wanted to see his dad, but the father doesn't want much to do with ed at all, his idea now to ship him to paternal t grandparents in northern, california. northern, california. it was had flash backs was his mother and his old man that didn't want going to do with him. at-this-point. he decides who it kill. >> while his grandfather was at grocery store he shot and killed his grandmother, he could not bear idea of his grandfather finding hissed dead wife, and he shot him in the back of the head. police asked him why did you do it, he said i wanted to see what it fell like to kill grand ma. >> he was brought to a mental hospital for criminally insane. >> 15-year-old ed, diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenic. on his release, his files were sealed in a juvenile court. no one in the zone rally public would know he was a killer. there's software. and then there's industrial grade software, forged from decades of industrial experience and insights. meet honeywell forge. analytical software that connects assets and people to deliver a cybersecure record of your entire operation. so that everyone, in your boardroom and beyond, speaks the same language. honeywell forge. industrial grade software. hey i'm joe montana. when you get to be our age, you have little patience for nonsense and inefficiency. after years of practice you become a pro at pretty much everything. so when i qualified for medicare, i got wellcare. they're pros at making things streamlined, efficient and convenient. wellcare offers great benefits like free grocery, and 24/7 virtual visits. wellcare is no nonsense. just great benefits and none of the hassles. 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