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watch this. >> let me just repeat that today's report of the unemployment rate down 4.8%, significant improvement from when i took office and assigned to a recovery is moving forward. even in the case of the speech when he says pandemic. jobs are up, wages up, unemployment down. that's progress. it's a tribute to the hard work and resiliency of the american people. today we see more evidence of the progress we are making. i know we can make a lot more in the days ahead. >> jason: per usual, joe biden took zero questions after his speech and jetted off to wilmington, delaware, for d another restful weekend away from the white house. said biden's job approval numbers are at an all-time low. the numbers are so bad that even cnn is saying there is a sense for alarm. but even jen psaki said there is a -- unvaccinated americans are to blame. watch this. >> what do you make of these pretty terrible polls? is he doing things that have to be done? >> look, i would say that this is a really tough time in our country. we arecoun still battling covidd a lot of people thought we'd be through it. including us. because of the rise of the delta variant speak. because of the fact even though it was the vaccine that was unproved under a republican administration even though we now have full fda approval and even though it's widely available across the country, we still have a quarter of the country who have decided not to get vaccinated. nod question that having an impact. of course, this president has said, the buck stops with him. far s and away the biggest issue on the minds of the american people and it's impacting a lot of issues. >> on the campaign trail, didn't joe biden promise to get a virus and a control? by his own admission, and emergency rooms are so packed with covid patients that the president himself was forced to personally call in a favor at one hospital to fast-track the treatment of a good friend. watchen this. >> last night i was on the television, i was on the telephone with a person in an emergency hospital ward in pennsylvania because a goodia friend had rushed his significant other to the emergency room. this woman was having trouble breathing, had a high fever, could not really catch a breath. and got her to the hospital. but the waiting room was so crowded. things were so backed up. they couldn't even get her to be seen initially. so be it because i knew, i called the desks, the receiving nurse and asked what the situation was. >> jason:: joining us for a reaction is the assistant of the treasury monica crowley along with fox news contributor joe concha. thank you for joining us. i want to talk about the economy. that affects everybody. for the president of the f united states to personally pick up the phone and talk to a nurse at a hospital to do a favor for a friend, i don't know how that strikes most people but if i'm in the waiting room in someone's getting preferential treatment because they are a good buddy of joe, that's weird to me. >> always with a point of privilege, right? very weird of joe biden to blurt that out.en it made him look really bad. we are still in the middle of a pandemic and people are struggling and he's saying, look, my friend and my wife come out with a cut in front of the line. i also love to know how many people in that particular hospitaleo system had been laid off or fired because they refuse to vax, creating a huge backlog due to a short staffing. >> jason: the president trying t to put a big spin on the job numbers because they were horrific. nowhere close to where they were supposed to be. what part of the problem in the white house is that you've got joe biden and kamala harris, they are both poor communicators and they never take any and when they do talk off script, you gets up thing like this which causes its own uproar. > it's the worst messaging ie seen, jason, in the modern political era. to blame >> and he sits as jen psaki did,s it's all they hd but didst be 26 forced us toor withdraw from afghanistan in the disastrous way? of course not. his b26 causing the border to be wide open where to be 26 causing skyrocketing crime in american cities? of course not. a covid causing skyrocketing inflation? of course not. are trying to sell the american people in august, job creation for missed expectations and millions. it was by another 300,000. the president is saying the job report show progress but that's gaslighting with dynamite marinated in kerosene. also claims that 3.5 trillion in spending costs and inflation almost sure to continue rising. that'll reduce the debt. all lies. with anyone with ears, eyes, halfway functional brain, the president is as serious as a heart attack when he's making them and this is where we are now at this point. you are right about the messaging. it's lying and deceptive, it is intentional. >> jason: you been up close and personal with the white house along the way. part the problem is you have kamala harris who is no way to be seen. literally flying to palm springs when they are trying to do critical things with united statesg congress. but we've got this major problem with shipping off, off load of shipments that are coming into these boards and no trucks to go underneath thesese containers. where's pete buttigieg? there cabinet is pretty well absent from the discussion. >> their labor secretary was out today to talk about this abysmal job support and trying to spin it, as was the president. thee overall, jason, you're exactly right. the vice president wants as much distance between herself and these catastrophes is much as possible. she is trying to preserve her own political viability. whether it comes to the economy, the border, or the whole things joe biden has given her, she's not out there publicly.he the latest video, she was talking to some kids about space exploration, which is not exactly on the top of most americans lists of things. you are exactly right, they have hightailed it away from all of these controversies. they know this president is in free fall. they can see the president's poll numbers cratering it. some of them starting to report oner the faltering economy becae they can't ignore it. make no mistake, when the press reports, they'll see the end todayy talking about how bad these job numbers are, they aren't doing it because they want to see joe biden fail. they are doing as a warning to the white house that they better start getting their act together particularly on the economy because most americans do vote on kitchen table issues. >> jason: nothing says, hey, let's fight inflation by throwing a few trillion dollars into the economy and spend more by government. i don't know where they are at with their messaging, but that's not the remedy to solve the problems that are ahead of us. >> a little bit of econ 101, but i'm pretty sure you're spending $.5 trillion and putting into the economy, that makes the value ofth the dollar a little bit. we are already on a 30-year high onn, inflation. if this spending bill gets passed to shave down, what do you think is goingng to happen? the big takeaways from the polls when you peel away the onion. republicans are overwhelmingly against the president, of course. democrats are still with him. they try to cancel each other out. i always look at independents. they are the ones in michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin, ohio, so on. 32% of americans approve this president. less than one in three -- just nine months in the office, hockey season. majority of voters believe now that the administration as a whole is not confident running the government. that's a very difficult impression to undo. the economy is polling below 40%, in afghanistan, he's pulling below 20. crime is an issue as well. it is the border secure? no. you tell me how he's going to fix those issues when he's never communicated outside of a teleprompter. it ain't going to happen unless someone else is doing the communicating. i guess that's jen psaki who is now the face of this administration. congratulations. >> joe biden and kamala harris have bad judgment but they are poor communicators. monica crowley, joe concha, thank you both for joining us tonight. all right. with biden's approval number is in the tank in multiple major crises on the rise, the democratic party is starting to fracture after minority leader mcconnell ever so generously offered a lifeline to democrats on the debt ceiling. chuck schumer decided to take a victory lap on the floor the senate and fellow democrat pleased.in was not so when you listen to this clip, make sure to watch joe manchin. watch. >> they said democrats must raise alone five going through a drawn out convoluted and risky reconciliation process. that was simply unacceptable to my caucus. able to raise the debt limit without an unnecessary reconciliation process that until today the republicanof leader claims was the only way to address the debt limit. let me say that again. >> jason: joe manchin called those comments classless and report lee told schumer that his speechuc was "bleeping stupid." i know you're fresh and new. the vitriol is something special to be seen right now. democrats are fighting amongst themselves and progressives seem to have the numbers. how do you see it? >> jason, i want to ask you if you've missed it yet. i've never seen anything like it in previous administrations. thank god for joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. democrats are in disarray, it's a complete cluster, they are attacking each other on the hill, and restrooms, and bathrooms, and airplanes. they are in total and complete disarray. for many of them they think this is a game. this g is not a game to the american people. inflation is taxation. every single hardworking american isng going to pay mores they continue down this irresponsible path of standing. we've neverav seen in america's history. >> jason: you represent the low country in south carolina. beautiful part of the world. you've got to go cats and the dog as i understand it.'r when you're out there talking to south carolinians and you have a military background as well. when you talk to regular old folks who are back home what are they concerned about? and joe biden and kamala harris point to anything that they think they've actually accomplished thus far a month in office? >> the number one question that i get in south carolina is who is in charge. when you look at the crises at the border, whether it's the afghanistan exit where the botch evacuation we had, whether it is the 400,000 illegal aliens and are about to cross the border in the month of october, and you see the devastation with the increased spending the kind that bernie sanders are writing it, people can see the far left want to fundamentally change our country. this spending between the infrastructure package and the $3.5 trillion, or $2 trillion, whatever it's going to be become a people understand it's untenable and unaffordable. like giving my high schooler because i'm a single mom with two kids, it's giving my high schooler son who get a $10 a week allowance is like giving home a platinum credit card. everybody knows we can afford to do this. it's the extremity to the far left, we have aoc literally writing the budget, writing how we are going to spend your tax dollars. aoc is not president. who is in charge, and why are we doing this to our country? >> between aoc and bernie sanders, they are out there actually talking about how it's not nearly enough. that needs to be higher because they have the sensational desire for more government. it reallyee is scary. i'm glad you are in the fight. thank you for joining us tonight onon "hannity." here with more reaction, sean duffy and charlie hurt. thanks for joining us. congressman duffy, we served on united states congress and we are talking about this earlier this week. it's really hard to believe that nancy pelosi still to this day does not require members of congress to actually show to do do their jobs. you have proxy voting and have democrats who have never been in congress since the day they were swornn in. >> it's on horde and went unheard of.you have tot happens in that process you and i both no, you communicate, you build relationships which is why it's so disturbing this video you just showed about the chuck schumer speech, mitch mcconnell raising the debt limit which, by the way, is bad forme america but good for democrats, and chuck schumer stabs him in the back? it undermines the trust and relationships that you need to work.ua i can't remember that video you played. you and i both no, and i was friends with maxine waters. with all the things she promoted all the ideas, but i'm a friend of hers because it was never personal. that think that's what the senate has devolved into, the quorum doesn't exist anymore. no one loves to corpsman the senate more than senators. you see democrats that are afraid of their left flank. chuck schumer is afraid of aoc right now. running like a college campus activist group. and all to the wind and let's have a free-for-all fight. >> jason: charlie, i want to get your perspective of this because you reside in virginia. you got terry mcauliffe who's running again for governor. he's even admitting out loud that joe biden is not very popular right now. democrats seem to be in each other's throats. where didhe they get to where ty are unified. progressives from my vantage point seem to be ruing the day at the promise of joe biden which is, it, we are going be ruling for thein center. that doesn't seem to be what they are doing. stephen democrats have no one butra themselves to blame fo this. democrats own everything. they control every lever of power. every failure happens right now is 100% their fault. they can try to blame americans who make choices about vaccines. they try to blame a minority of republicans in the house or the senate or whatever. it's all their fault, 100% their fault. they have no one to blame. the real problem is, i think it's interesting how much effort that the media and democrats put on trying to pin all the blame, all the blame on joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, when that's not the problem. the problem is they put bernie sanders in charge of the budget committee. the problem is joe biden wants an actual enthusiastic communist in charge of banks in america. and pelosi is walking around doing the bidding of aoc and as you pointed out, chuck schumer is terrified from his left flank of aoc. they put lunatics in charge of the asylum and they are surprised they have a mess on their hands question mikey of terry mcauliffe who is a terrible retread, running a campaign based on the idea that he said this in the last debate, running a campaign on the belief that parents don't have a right to know what it is that their children are being taught in schools, and they shouldn't have a say? this is what he said out loud in the middle of a debate. luckily thank god glenn youngkin was smart enough to realize what was going on, that what he said was absolute lunacy and nailed him on it. >> i think he's paving the way to become the first republican to win in over ten years to win in virginia a statewide race in virginia and that set you up on how badly joe biden and the democrats have completely screwed things up. >> jason: i do think it starts us off. i think you have a weak president d physically. mentally, i think he is just a a week week communicator. when he went over to the house of representatives after they didn't achieve of volk and you've got the democrats saying, i don't even know why he showed up over here, it's probably not good. thank you both for joining us, gentlemen. i've got to keep going. straight ahead, biden continues his bilateral control. sara carter with an exclusive report. mark brown of h react, that's coming up next. baaam. internet that doesn't miss a beat. that's cute, but my internet streams to my ride. adorable, but does yours block malware? 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>> they are noticing in a couple of ways. one, they'll run whether it is people or drugs are in front of us because we are so tied up with large groups of people, we can't respond. so they arean doing with they d, the other thing we are seeing is i think there was something that came out last week where some guys are standing in the middle of the river with long rifles just taunting the folks on our side. there is no fear. they have no respect whether it's toward our law enforcement are there law enforcement, they are just operating there. >> what's the worst-case scenario based on what you were seeing happening? >> if it continues the way it's going with the amount of around our agents with weapons and continuing to threaten them, somebody is going to get hurt. >> could somebody get killed? >> summit he could get killed. it's unfortunate and we hope it's not going to happen. we don't want any loss of life our agents are going to protect a themselves and those around them at all costs. >> who do you blame for this? >> it's clear, it's the rhetoric from the administration. >> let me tell you, it's not just what the border patrol council is saying, it's also what other texas national guardsmen i've talked to, theyac are very concerned that the administration handling of the border crisis anddl the failuref doing anything is going to lead tto someone's death. this is a very serious crisis, won the administration must pay attention to. jason? >> jason: sara carter iner texas. thank you very much. joining us now is the host of "lara logan has no agenda" on fox nation," lara logan and attorney general mark brockovich attorney general, the biden administration wants us to believe that everything is safe, it's calm there is no problem, there is noo crisis. but in your estimation what's going on down in the border. >> thank you, jason, or having me on. president biden said his administration is creating more jobs. unfortunately he made the cartels more powerful. they'll be seeking more than cvs and walgreens combined we know there is an increase in homicides. we know that opioid and drug overdoses are the leading causes of death for teenagers in the second largest county.ge this is having a dramatic impact in real time. make no mistake about it. as a result of the biden administration's policies, this country is a more dangerous place. people are dying now. it's not a of theoretical problem butf we've succeeded delma exceeded operational control of our borders. >> jason: the biden administration is canceling contractor barriers and walls. talk about open borders. it's just another example... when you talk to the border patrol agents that you talk to every day, their morale must be horrendous. it must be so demoralizing to see with this administration is doing to them. >> it is demoralizing, jason. that's exactly the point. they want agents to be so demoralized that they'll w quit. because that's less and less of the institution you don't really respect and don't actually like. if you look at it, the people who believe in open borders, the open society foundation, all the others that are of that same political mind-set, they want they immigration agency's gone, they want the border patrol gone, they want the police gone, they want the prisons gone, so on and so forth. what they have done here, the biden administration have their own agents under the bus. look at the horse patrol who didn't with anybody, didn't do anything racist, didn't do anything wrong now their jobs are done, basically, the careers are over. all the border patrol agents who are in not vaccinated were losing their career. at the same time they are purging the national guard, the department of homeland security. all these institutions are being purged for anyone who doesn't agree with the administration. and not just the biden administration. all the people that nobody voted for. the people from open society foundation, all the advisors, all these ngo pluralists who claim to be charities and they do charity work. and really are kind of an enforcement of this radical politicalem strategy. hundreds of miles of border right now that are unprotected. no one's having a conversation about the security risks and there are very few people in this country on both sides ofy the aisle who actually want what's happening now. we are looking at a very serious situation where anybody who wants to can come across a southern border and you are absolutely right, about the narcotics. this is the most dangerous time in historys of this country in terms of -- never had such powerful drugs, never been so prolific, never been so easy and cheap to manufacture, never more american kids dying of overdoses, and we have done absently nothing about it. do you know what the biden administration is looking for? the reduction of mandatory sentences for fentanyl. they are working to prevent that. and as more american kids are dying of overdoses. >> jason: mr. attorney general, they are not going to put up these barriers. they are not -- not only the sheriff and national guard and others local law enforcement, what are the rules of engagement for them? and how do they continue to deal with a massive push of human trafficking, sex trafficking, drug trafficking, what are they supposed to do? >> that's the problem, jason. they can't control the problem because the biden administration is not doing its job. as a result of that, you have sheriff's now being pulled out of the community enforcement, i was talking to ranchers the other day on the border, these aren't california cowboys committees are tough hombres. they don't want all the violence and the people. this is something an arizona backyard now.et but make no mistake about it, it's being a threat around the country. i think it's going to have a destabilizing effect on mexico. you're going to see the drug overdoses and the biden administration is -- it's why me and some of my colleagues, we have a lawsuit in federal court going to force the biden administration to buildws the wl because that's what the law requires. >> jason: here is the biden administration saying that there are environmental concerns. guess what, if you go to the organ pipe national forest, guess what? you can't camp there, plus sign saying that it's too dangerous because of all the illegal immigration is going on. thank you both for being with us tonight. coming up, and incredible controversy about critical race theory involving the department of justice. plus black leaders are turning on site. dr. ben carson joining us to react. that's coming up. i got this mountain bike for only $11. dealdash.com, the fair and honest bidding site. we sold an ipad worth $505 for less than $24. a stand mixer for less than $20. a 4k television for under $2. a macbook pro for under $16. as well as a playstation 4 for under $16. and brand new cars for less than $900. dealdash.com offers hundreds of auctions every day. all auctions start at $0 and everything must go. and don't forget, we offer a full 90 day money back guarantee on your first bid pack purchase. i won these bluetooth headphones for $20. i got these three suitcases for less than $40. and shipping is always free. go to dealdash.com today and see how much you can save. there are auctions going on right now, so what are you waiting for? 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he had a public exhibition in los angeles. the mayor showed up, musicians showed up. would they be showing up at his last name or biden? of course not. this is a scam with the bidens. but not just that, you can go through a list of the biden family members who have had run-ins with the law. no arrests, no charges, none of them have jail time. hunter biden, drug possessions, the charges were expunged. joe biden's daughter ashley obstructing a policect officer,o charges. freed his brother allegedly of petty theft. you can go down the list. these people get away with everything and that's why they are going to continue to do these sort of things today. >> jason: his brother literally out blockbuster video or is stuck a video down his pants and tried to get out of blockbuster. on a more serious note... [laughter]r] last year, senator portman and senator carper came up with a bipartisan report. this is a report that said if you want to launder money, one of the ways that russians and others do it is they do it through art because it's one of the legal but unregulated ways -- not suggesting this is what hunter biden has done, but it is... reason there's so much speculation about hunter biden's art is that in a nonpartisan way, he's going to scam money and he's going to -- maybe it's not. >> is not tarnished the word "art. he's a con artist. he peddles influence and he tries to use his father as a bridge. eric garcetti was there. eric garcetti is in the twilight zone. he's been nominated to be in and asked her to india. they are trying to buy influence. going to try to make as much money on his name up until 2024. the only reason he's not facing investigation is because the democrats control the white house and the justice department. he should be in jail. for all of his criminal activities. but i guarantee you, jason and lisa, 20 and 24 will be the day of reckoning. this man has criminal investigations ongoing. but nothing is going to happen while the biden are in charge of the white house. that'll come to a crashing end in 2024. >> jason: he has the issue with the gun. that's one. it was hunter biden in the white house that said they were going to make sure the most open andai transparent since the dinosaurs roamed the earth but they were not going to get involved in hunter's art business. but's there are hundred paintins hanging evidently inne the white house for goodness sake. this is what the bidens promised the american people when they promised this. and hunter biden was going to be oblivious? he had an art show! >> of course they don't care. it's all lies, he sat and lied to the american people. when he was vice president he flew back his son to the air force two in china, and that business license has been trying to get for over a year. miraculously approved. that's what family is about. we still don't know, has joe biden profited off of this? he was the big guy, supposed to get 10% of that deal. the family got $11 million from executives.hi did joe biden get 10% of it? we still don't have the answer of some of these basic questions, and joe biden cashed in a little bit. we know china wanted joe biden to win, china's currency took a nose drive when it look like presidents be if i was going to win reelection and shot right back up when it was going to be joe biden. what favors have they been calling in when it comes to china, outcomes of their family have made allhi this money for l these business dealings, and shady ones at that. >> jason: lisa boothe and leo terrel, how she had more time. it's really stunning and lack of intellectual curiosity and the publicity of c the national meda on this is just unbelievable. thanks for joining us tonight. really do appreciate it. coming up, we'll be back with more of this special edition of vanity. when we found out our son had autism, his future became my focus. lavender baths calmed him. so we made a plan to turn bath time into a business. ♪ ♪ find a northwestern mutual advisor at nm.com ♪ ♪ >> jason: welcome back to the special edition of "hannity." the department of justice taking heat this week after attorney general merrick garland directed the fbi to prepare strategies for addressing unruly parents and school board meetings. the republican members of the senate judiciary committee did not like the sound of that, so they sent a letter to garland reassuring us americans that are to own department of justice will not be infringing on our commitments to free speech. beyond parents who are upset with critical race theory had black leaders are starting to lose patients with joe, saddled vice president kamala harris with solving all of the administration about his worst problems. back with fox news contributor's leo terrel and lisa boothe. we had technical difficulty with dr. ben carson tonight. again, i want to start with you. to get to the department of justice involved and engaged with school board meetings, how do they justify this? >> you can and as a lawyer, you cannot. this is serious l intimidation. critical race theory is racing. these are local issues and what i find insulting is we are ignoring that critical race theory is trying to teach our kids to be a little racist individuals. these parents are fighting back. they have a direct right in the curriculum and what are these kids are going to be taught at school. this is part of a federalized game in conjunction with the national teachers union to basically invalidate our kids. i find it offensive not only as a civil rights attorney, not as aaw lawyer, but a former schoolteacher. it is outrageous. >> jason: i don't believe there's any federal jurisdiction to get the fbi involved in our local school board meetings. how do you think the next school board meeting is actually going to go? n when there's an open meeting and they actually open up and let the parents talk about how they are going to educate their own children? >> the whole point of critical race theory for the left is you say the country is inherently racist, it's rude, it makes the country easier to burn down to the ground and that's what the left is doing with that. parents need to double down. we aren't just creeping towards communism in america. democrats are putting the pedal on the accelerated towards a communist and authoritarian -- they aren't tracking violence like antifa, bullets on their radar question my parents in america because is falling apart and is starting with the school. parents standing up, they have 1.5 million students are more who have been pulled out of government run schools. homeschooling has tripled since prepandemic levels because people are seeing these dr. nations that they are being taught and so they are trying to preserve the system. that's why they're getting the doj involved. now his parents know what is actually going onl in these schools. >> jason: i think they are inadvertently making the case for school choicehi along the w. but i think you are right. i think it's time for parents to double down. i got to get your very quick take on that. there has been criticism out there, joe biden is giving kamala harris work out there, some black leaders think, the real difficult things, really hard like immigration and voter suppression and those are the type of things, -- >> is totally pandering. she's in the vice presidency. should be able to handle every h type of job on the planet. she is the second most powerful person in the world. let me make clear, she's not qualified, i'm more competent than she is. those leaders wherever they are, they do not represent me, black america, there is no black boys for all people. kemal harris to stand up and do far, her nine months have been disasters. she hasn't had one accomplishment. she's horrible. did ie say horrible? she's horrible. >> jason: this is the problem with biden and harris. no successes to point to and theyse are poor communicators. thank you again for joining us in the second block as well. more of this special edition of "hannity" right after the break. stay with us. .. unfortunately that is all the time we have left in ninth grad check out our podcast, jason in the house. find it anywhere you listen to podcasts. i think you will enjoy a. thanks for joining us, "the ingraham angle" is up next for you to have a great and wonderful weekend. >> i am in for laura ingraham, and this is "the ingraham angle." he says he >> i'm raymond arroyo and for laura ingrandma this is the ingraham angle. the la sheriff not support the vaccine mandate in his offices as a matter of public safety. alex villanueva is here to tell us why. hunter biden start selling his art for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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