enforcement are on the scene, a man hunt is underway. casey stegall is joining us by phone, he rushed to the site of this shooting reunification site in arlington, texas. casey, give us some sense of what it has been like for parents as they reunite with their children who were in the school at the time of the shooting. >> casey: you can imagine. i just spoke with a guy literally a few minutes ago, he said his daughter is a sophomore. he was parking in the parking lot because the traffic is so bad. he was going to hoof it to the performing arts center. not far, just a stones throw away from the high school itself. that has been identified as the official reunification center and that is where once the official all-clear is given and the students are able to board the buses and leave the property, they will be brought to this location so they can be reuniified with their parents. they want to put the right kids with the right people after a security incident like this. they would be taking all students' photo id's to adult or guardian. i can confirm there are four people hurt in this. one minor injury, three taken to area reports. in the q&a session with the press conference with officials not long ago, they did say a few of those victims are in surgery. we don't know the extent of the injuries. they didn't say life-threatening, but three were taken to the hospital and some are in surgery right now, they are asking for everyone's thoughts and prayerss. call came in this morning about 9:15. there were reports of a shooting on the second floor. we know now from social media, video emerged on social media, there was some type of fight or altercation that led up to this. that video was posted online and you could hear gunshots. police say that is when the gun was pulled out with this altercation. you have this separate incident here. parents are anxiously ark waiting the all clear to be be given so they can get their kids moving back over this way. then you have the manhunt that is not also terribly far from this location, just a couple of miles, that is where the suspect or person of interest police have identified apparently lives and they believe they have in the right spot. this is fluid and developing, as we know. >> trace: it is trace, you are seeing what casey is talking about, the person of interest in this case. the suspect is 18-year-old-timothy george simpkins, we had earlier a shot of simpkins home in arlington, because you have all kinds of police and agents on the scene of the home. what i'm wondering, at the reunification point, are they giving timelines and letting you know when the majority of the students -- 1895 students are at timberview high school. are they giving parents a timeline of when the students, to ease stress, of when the students might be released, put on buses and taken to the reunification site? >> 11:30 central time, 12:30 eastern, they mentioned the process would start taking place an hour from then. looking at 1:30 eastern is when the school administrators and law enforcement officialss were going to feel confident they could have the kids move out of the school in single-file line and start boarding the buses. one of the fascinating parts about this, i talked with harris in the last hour. validates this day and age every kid, especially at the high school level has a cell phone. there is certain degree of worry with parents and no doubt there will be tearful embraces we will witness this afternoon. most of these parents have been in contact with their children and they know that they are okay. it is just sort of this waiting game right now, which can be really stressful. i tell you what, just getting here was insane, i don't live far, it took me almost an hour to go eight miles because there were just lines and lines and lines of people. those are all parents now lining the streets and now migrating over to the restaurant parking lots across the street and what-not as they sit here and play the waiting game. it is going to take some time. trace, it is important, this is a big school, you can tell from the ariel pictures, talking about a large campus with nearly 2000 students. getting all of them out and doing it safely and making sure each and everyone is accounted for is going to take a bit of time. even if they are running on schedule and start this in the next hour and a half or so or in the next hour, you know, it is going to take hours for the process itself to play out until everyone is together again. >> sandra: casey, since you know the area so well and we have a map on the screen. this is video on the side, when we started to see students emerge after being locked down after the shooting and you are seeing now gathering at the reunification site. because you know the area so well and we were seeing pictures a short sometime ago, of the police gathering outside the suspect's home, are you able to give us an idea of the proximity of the high school to the reunification site then to the suspect's home perhaps, if you have been able to get an understanding of what neighborhood that is in? >> casey: from here to the high school, we're talking, i'm trying to see if i can google that information while i'm on the phone with you. it is really just a stone's throw away. naturally my other phone here is giving me a little trouble. sandra, we're talking about five to 10-mile radius between the multiple scenes. not far at all. again, there was a bit of confusion, you had parents in the early going and naturally reports start surfacing on social media, it spread like wildfire and parents started showing up at the high school. that led to some issues and panic. then they decided this was going to clearly be a very large, long drawn-out process, so they decided to stage over here at the performing arts district. again, the suspect's home, i'm going to have to do more research on that and then i can get back to you -- >> sandra: as you are saying that, we got the live pictures back up there of the police and authorities gathering outside the home, a bigger presence now that this live shot has come back. you can tell a weapon has been drawn outside of that gray suv parked outside the suspect's home. we have no information about what they know, who may be in there, whether the parents are home or not. we are waiting for an update on that. want to alert you to the screen, this is a live picture outside the suspect's home. we hope to learn more about what they found when they got there. trace. >> trace: couple of important points, they were at it is suspect's home before they cleared the school. we were talking an hour ago, they had identified the suspect's home. all kids have cell phones, there was video online, we didn't use it because it wasn't verified. it was appearing in the early stages of this thing. look at the live pictures of the suspect's home. we don't know if the parents are home or anything about that. the 18-year-old suspect, timothy george simpkins, is apparently driving a 2018 silver dodge charger. police are worried about the fact he is one, armed, two, he may harm himself. we are hoping to get a guest on, maria shorenkay, she said the following, quoting here, "i was walking down the science hallway. i was tardy five minutes into class, we heard three lockdown, lockdown. i got behind my teacher's desk. we didn't know if it was a drill. i got texts from my friends. someone was dead, someone was shot. i didn't know it was true. i'm on the bus now, we are going to the performing arts center. no fatalities, there is been no fatalities, clearing that up. the shock these kids are undergoing and you are about to talk to her to get perspective on that. >> sandra: maria is an 11th great at timberview high school. she is joining us now. i can tell we have a connection, we'll see how good that is. thank you for calling in. we are looking at the pictures from your high school. can you tell us what you experienced with this shooting. >> hi, i was just in a state of shock, like i said. i didn't know what was going on, if people were hurt. if this was real f. it was going on at another school. i was just hearing everything, sorry, it is loud on the bus, we are getting to the performing arts center. it was just sad, very chaotic over social media. my friends texted me all over the place telling me people are dead or people are shot. i didn't know what to do. i just -- >> sandra: so glad you are okay, maria. do you know this suspect, timothy george simpkins? is this a student at your school? >> yeah, i know of him. he does go to the school. i've maybe talked to him before, but i do not know him personally. traiks /* >> trace: maria, you said you didn't know if this was a drill or if this was lockdown. because of covid, students haven't really been back in physical class all that long. have you and your classmates had a chance to go over active shooting drills? have you done any of that in recent weeks and months? >> yes, we have been able -- when i heard -- [telephone cutting out] -- >> sandra: thankfully the reason we are losing maria, we understand she's arriving there at the reunification center. we hope she is able to connect with her parents as soon as possible. i can't imagine the worry these parents are going through, trace. >> trace: she was saying she didn't know if it was her school. people were texting, people have been shot. she didn't know. another school in arlington was on lockdown because of reports of an active shooter. it was washington liberty, not far from timberview high school, they went and cleared the scene, while clearing the scene issue the active shooting happened. we don't think there is a correlation, but a coincidence. bring in phil holloway, a former police officer and former da. you hear two high schools in the same town have active shooting scenarios minutes apart and don't appear to be connected, what do you make of that, phil? >> phil: i hate to be talking about this kind of subject matter. i want to point out, looks like law enforcement did a fantastic job here. you have, i think school police officers, they went to the threat. that is what police are trained to do on, go to the threat. it may be that going to that threat means have you to ignore something like setting up the perimeter, that can come second. neutralizing that threat and that danger is of key importance. now with respect to having two of these in the same day, it seems like one may have been unfounded situation. obviously one is not. i can tell you from personal experience, working in the criminal justice system, students with guns in high schools and middle schools and below is something that is more common than most americans would be comfortable knowing about. it is something that happens frequently. i've long been a proponent of armed security every entrance to every school house. if we can do that at the tiniest of traffic courts in america, we can do it at the schools where our children go to learn. >> sandra: phil, i want to draw our viewer's attention back to the live scene outside of what we are told is the suspect's home. police have been gathered there, authorities gathered there for quite sometime. seen no movement, haven't seen anybody emerge, our view is not always on the front door of the home. the suspect, we know his name, timothy george simpkins, 18 years old. we're told what he may be driving, a 2018 silver dodge charger. we obviously don't see that parked outside of the home. there is a lot we know at this point. a lot we do not know at this point. as far as the police department and how they are operating, on twitter, arlington police department says the officers are doing methodical search, working with law enforcement agencies. they have backup, federal authorities are on the ground, atf, what a scene to see the school buses lined up. this is a huge, coordinated effort, phil. >> phil: they will locate this and do it very soon. because i suspect they know what he left in, i suspect they have video of him leaving the area. they know what he drives. they know what his cell phone is. they know his social media, they know his contacts and his friend, peer group and will work out through the sources. this will be a situation that will be resolved i think in fairly short order. police at his home, a natural first place to start. they have to assume he's there, that is why you see drawn weapons. it is precaution, he may not be there. i suspect he probably is not. law enforcement will get to the bottom of this. he is not a sophisticated criminal, he is scared and on the run and law enforcement will find him soon. >> sandra: phil, thank you for joining us. horrible to see the students going through this in arlington, texas. this is video from a short time ago, trace, as they emerge from the texas high school building, students between 14 and 18 years old, living through a scary time this morning as they learned of an active shooter situation. we got an update from the mayor joining us from phone jim roth, mayor of arlington, texas, joining us by phone now. mayor, you are dealing with a lot with this situation, can you update the victims? we know four victims involved, one minor injury and that person we're told has been released. three students and one teacher, what more update can you give us, we know some were in surgery last time we heard from you. >> i know two were in surgery, three transported to local hospitals. one of them had a glancing injury, who was treated and released at the scene. those are the only injuries that i'm aware of. >> trace: we talked about the other high school in arlington, virginia, washington liberty, no relation there. the response, has this been implemented, the idea of student or school police officers going into the situation immediately, is that something that was recently implemented in texas or been a long-standing policy? was that clarified after the florida shooting several years ago? >> well, i know that this high school, while it is in the city of arlington, it is in the mansfield independent school district and misd has their own police department. my understanding is that there were two school resource officers on campus at the time of this incident and that helped, i believe, to ensure the safety of other students and their quick response to this situation. being in the city of arlington, our police department responded promptly, were able to set up perimeter, secure the school, have the school lockdown and ensure the individual wasn't on campus and began to safely transport the students away from the school to get them reunited with their families. every school district is a little bit different. mansfield independent school district has their own police department. i think we are blessed in the fact they had such a great response and connection with the arlington police department. we had their surrounding community, mansfield police, grand prairie police, arlington and i spoke with governor greg abbott, who sent in texas state troopers to help out in locating this individual. >> sandra: mayor, as far as what we know about the suspect, we be his age, what we may be driving, we have that on the screen. authorities are asking anybody to please notify if they see this vehicle or person to find them,let manhunt is underway. we had a student inside the high school on with us a few moments ago before we spoke with you, she said she did not know him personally, she was able to confirm he is a student as far as she believes at that school. i asked because when authorities were asked at the press conference earlier, i don't believe they were able to confirm he was aa student. it appears this student identified him as a student at that school. are you learning any more about this suspect? >> i don't know any specifics about whether or not he's a student or was a student. i understand he's 18 years of age. he is an adult. and other than that, i knew he was involved in a physical confrontation with one or two other people and that's all i know right now. >> mayor, i know this is technically not your school district. do you know security aspects on campus? there are two resource officers on the scene today. they have metal detectors? does this particular school have metal detectors students have to go through before entering campus? >> i don't know the specifics on this particular school, being down there in misd, whether there are metal detectors there. i wouldn't be able to answer that. >> sandra: mayor, obviously there was video camera in the classroom, authorities were able to quickly identify that because of the video and identify what happened that led to the shooting, it was argument that law enforcement said resulted in this suspect pulling a weapon and therefore shooting and there are multiple victims involved. we've been showing live pictures of a neighborhood, where we are told police are outside of the suspect's home. i'm not sure if you have been able to see the live pictures we have up, this is obviously tape of the neighborhood right now, where authorities are gathered, there is a weapon drawn in the car, obviously they have their eye on the front door, don't know what is upon haing here. do you know the neighborhood? can you identify the neighborhood by the pictures? >> i wish i could see it, unfortunately, i'm out of town in houston at conference with texas municipal league, i'm not able to see a tv screen to see what you are referring to. >> sandra: can we touch back in a moment, the governor of texas is speaking, governor greg abbott. >> communities have law enforcement fully engaged in the process. the latest update i have right now knowing that facts are changing on the ground as we speak. according to director, the school is safe and secure. the shooter has been identified. and there is a search for the shooter. we know the shooter's car, we feel confident that the shooter will be located very, very soon. the shooter, under texas law, it is illegal, for the shooter to either possess or to have purchased the gun that was used in this crime. what i understand briefly is a fight broke out inside the school and the shooter pulled out the gun he had illegally and shot several people. we are still ark waiting word about how many people were shot, i don't have any information about any loss of life, but it would be premature to make any comment whatsoever about the lives of anyone. what we can say obviously is this. that is we grieve for everyone who has been harmed or impacted by this in any way whatsoever. we as a state working with the local communities will do everything possible to ensure that the shooter is swiftly and effectively prosecuted. now on to what we are here for today. obviously we are -- >> sandra: that was governor greg abbott speaking live from mission, texas, saying we grieve for everyone impacted by the school shooting in arlington, texas, this morning. talking about gun laws and as far as what he's learned about the situation with the suspect and gun used, he said it is illegal to possess the gun the suspect had or to purchase that gun. he had it illegally, said the governor, just a moment ago. jim ross, the mayor of arlington, still with us. what is your reaction from what you learned from the governor as this ongoing manhunt is underway? >> i heard from the governor or his chief of staff shortly after the shooting, they reached out and offered assistance that the state could provide us. i appreciate them doing that. i agree with the governor, that this individual was illegally in possession of a firearm. possessing a firearm on his school prem sis is illegal activity and i also agree that i am confident that our law enforcement community will be finding him and apprehending him in the not too distant futures. >> trace: mayor, we talked about this, since columbine, they put new proet cot in and those changed after sandy hook, are you happy with the way the protocols are now? they go classroom to classroom and some kids were staying in the classroom until they could clear this. they had pretty good idea the suspect is not on campus, but go through protocol to clear the classroom and make sure they are safe. any changes after seeing what you saw today, any changes you would respect in these types of protocols or are you comfortable with where we are right now? >> well, unfortunately, these type of protocols have some into existence because of the tragedies this country experienced over the last number of years. i'm going to defer to law enforcement experts who develop these protocols as i'm not law enforcement expert on this. it is unfortunate that our community, our country, has gotten to the position we have to have protocols, but the men and women of blue know how to protect these kids. i will defer to them on what the proper protocol is and ensuring the safety of our children and schools during these type of horrible situations. >> sandra: mayor, appreciate your time, please jump back on any moment when you want to bring new information on the ongoing hunt for the suspect. the update on the victims, some are currently still in the hospital. obviously on the reunification of students as we watch all of this, thank you, mayor. trace, go ahead. >> sandra: sandra, you talk about the victims, we talk about the there is level one trauma center nearby, that is great scenario when you have some of the shootings that happen in rural areas, that is a trouble spot. when you have them happen in cities like this, if you have level one trauma center, we have seen again and again, gunshot victims brought to level 1 center have higher percentage of surviving things, that is great point. bring in phil holloway, former police officer and district attorney. you are in law enforcement and you know very well the profession. when you talk about different standard operating procedures we've seen over the years of how now we want the school resource officers not to wait outside, we want them to go in and attack the scene. the way we go through and check each classroom, each closet, make sure students stay in classroom and shelter down, is that 20 something plus years after columbine, still effective or needs to be reviewed and updated, phil? >> phil: as far as police procedure goes, it is most effective for law enforcement officers to go to where the threat is. to neutralize that threat. go to the fun, if you will. there are some agencies that have adopted other policies, i have not agreed with those and didn't like what i saw for example, the case in florida, where perimeter was set up tchlts works best where heroes go to the threat, even to risk their own lives to neutralize the peril and to save the lives of schoolchildren. as far as how they get the gun into the school, i can tell you, i've seen in real life, real cases, they have them in a backpack and walk through the front door of the school. there have been cases i'm familiar with, a gun will literally fall out of a backpack on to the school room floor and it comes to the attention of teacher or some other official in that manner. i don't know if we need to go to clear backpacks or metal detectors or both, maybe something like we see at professional sporting venues, baseball or football games. literally, sometimes children take guns in through the front door. >> sandra: live look at mansfield, the center for it the performing arts, as kids are reunited with their parents. there is a manhunt underway for the victim on the screen. phil, tell us about the process knowing the reason they have the suspect so quickly, sorry, have the information about the suspect and identified the suspect, they were able to do this, there was a camera in the classroom. there must be large cameras in the texas high school, fairly new high school, i believe high school was built in 2004 or early 2000, i do know they have cameras in the high school. they must be going through this to see what door the suspect would have exited, potentially camera that would identify that, whether he jumped into the dodge charger that has been identified, what direction he might have gone. i assume they are digging through every piece of videotape they can find. >> phil: yeah, the video will be key, they probably know this. school security video will capture him at various points during this event. you have multiple eyewitnesses and all the schoolchildren have cameras on their cell phones, there is mrentsy to -- plenty to go through. the best thing would be the school's in-house security system and it would have captured probably the event, time period leading up to the event, any movement in the hallway prior to it, certainly leaving the building, exterior cameras, suspect they know what direction he left, what area he went in. surveillance, crime cameras in schools will be key in early moments of this investigation. >> trace: phil holloway, thank you for your time, back tou as news breaks, sandra. >> sandra: bring in joe cardinaly, former nypartly cloudy d commander. so many questions what is happening with the manhunt underway and students being safely reunited with their parents. we don't know much about the suspect, other than his name, age and car he might be driving. we know his home, authorities have gathered outside of it. we don't know if anybody is in the home, we haven't seen or heard from his parents or who would be inside the house. when do we learn more about the suspect, whether he has a previous record or any other information that will help find this person? >> well, sandra, all the questions you just asked went through the mind of chief colby and everybody that works underneaths him. from the time this happened, the immediate response to stop the shooting, to see what is going on and address that threat was being done. behind the scenes, once they start getting information and identified him, the ball started rolling by sending units to his house and places he frequents. they will trace him by his cell phone to locate him. fact they have his house secured is good. you can always pull police off, the fact they will second guess you and say why didn't you cover this area? they will cover as many areas as they can to find out where he is and take him into custody without incident, if possible. they will do victimology and see car population between him and the victims in the hospital. also, one point at the school before they let everybody go, they will say, does anybody have video, did anybody do this, they will detain them and parentss know, we have your child, but we need to speak to something about this. let them speak to the parents if need be. this is all too often and the question trace was asking, what could be done, i wholeheartedly agree with metal detectors at every school. why? you want to prevent them come coming into the school. keep them outside the school. put funding in the right direction and put them there. if you have to put police officers there who have direct communication with radio to responding units to let them know, there is a third party going on. this is done every time something happens. not only that, they critique this and say what could we have done better? they keep putting different plans into effect to make it a better scenario should it happen in the future. this was a great scenario and the fact there is trauma one hospital that could take them, great. had there not been, they would say, what is the condition of the victim? do we have to get them to another hospital or can we get them to the trauma center. these things are going on all the time, not even when there is a shooting, they have drills because of what is going on across america with the shootings, this is a result of it. >> trace: you have been covering things for a lot of years with us. my question, you see the suspect information on the right-hand side of the screen, they know who he is. they know what kind of car he's driving. they know what time he left the school. they know where he lives and by now, i would suspect and maybe you would, too, they have talked to his frepds. it is hard, joe, to disappear. it is harj to take a dodge charger and disappear. are you surprised two national hours later, they have not located the suspect yet? >> no, i'm not surprised at all. maybe he planned this, maybe he didn't. maybe he's on the run going from one place to the other. they will find out if he's at a location, somebody he knows, could be a family member, he may be reaching out to his family saying i'm here, the car is there, what do i do. i know law enforcement is taking that into consideration and reaching out to everybody that may have contact with him now or in the future. i'll tell you this, the fact that they will be doing background checks on him. the fact, why is the f.b.i. involved? you need to bring every unit in, maybe they have a piece of information about the weapon, about him, maybe he has a background we need to know about local law enforcement know about. >> sandra: joe, this is continued live video of the unbelievable amount of school buses, a very large school in arlington, texas, that are taking students from the high school to the reunification site. we spoke to one of them a short time ago. there seem to be i don't know if i call it excitement, the voices were loud of students anticipation of reunification with their parents. i can't imagine what the parents are going through. can you describe the live pictures we've been seeing outside the suspect's home. we can't tell a lot from our vantage point. we see a gun drawn by, i believe one of the feds outside an suv outside the suspect's home, whether or not they are able to just be -- go inside that home and look for any sort of evidence that would have led to this shooting or to this student playing out this act? >> joe: sandra, i can't see that screen, by the way. from what i saw before, it is the same scenario apparently. they are securing that location, they are not in a rush to get into the house right now. if there was an immediate threat, they would breach and do what they have to do. there is no immediate threat, they are securing it until they find out who lives in the house, any people on the inside, have they had contact with anybody on the inside. they are not in a rush to go in there and will be directed by other information relayed to them. may have seen him at this location, but still secure that location. why? afterwards, you want to go in and see if there are other weapons, things he may have planned this, you don't know, it could be fight that happened that escalated or had a beef with somebody for a while ago and want to secure things. >> sandra: i'm sure you you heard the police update, student cell phone video showed a fight inside the classroom that then eventually led to the shooting. it circulating online it is something we obviously have to as news network authenticate and make sure this is what happened in the classroom. it is out there and police describe that fight they saw on that cell phone video, they obtained from a student. >> joe: absolutely, they will take that footage and analyze that. as you you stated before, with cameras in the school, they go through every camera and trace his steps in and out of the school and find out who he had association with prior to that, he may have been speaking with them, they want that person to speak to them, as well. series of events, they will compile the evidence and backtrack and go back as far as they have to with cell phone records, see if he had a beef that went back even over summer, never know if he has gang ark filliation, this will be answered. in the meantime, while this is being answered, they are taking necessary steps they have to do to make sure they get him into custody and make sure everybody is safe. the fact that chief colby went out and addressed this immediately, as soon as he got it and put the picture out, not his picture, pedigree out there and put everything out to the public and that was tremendous. he was able to do that because it didn't hinder his investigation, all right. he was able to get it out there and get to the news media. you put the necessary information out there, did great. >> sandra: we are going to, if you could standby, we are in breaking news, we appreciate you joining us, joe, thank you. >> trace: former ypd lieutenant porcher. we believe this is the neighborhood where the suspect lived there is an suv that is focus, the tail gate is open and police are guarding that, we don't know the significance of that, we were told he was in a 2018 dodge charger, my question to you is, as someone who has followed these types of scenarios of suspects on the run, would it be more beneficial to police, to atf and other agents to have the suspect inside a car or would it be better to have him on foot, is there complications one way or the other? >> well, it is dependent upon where the suspect is located. if they are in a vehicle, many instans that would work for law enforcement. when a person is on foot, they move slower, but move intoing what we're dealing with. this case two different sections. one, police are focusing on the next stage of the investigation when this goes to court. this person, when they are taken into custody, we want to gain a conviction. preservation of evidence is optimum importance. capturing the victim, police are doing a lot, vigorous search. the average person photograph or videotape 100 to 200 times per day, a lot of school systems have camera systems that link directly with police. there is consent decree with departments and schools to log into the feed and gain access to what is happening and i believe that is what happened in this particular case in this school. as we move forward in terms of finding this person, now we also want to put the necessary alert within the community so people can stay inside, instead of crowding the scene and creating target rich environments for the suspect moving forward. >> sandra: amazing to see live images in arlington as students, have you to assume that every single student has to be accounted for, between police and school safety officers, you can see them letting students in one by one as the reunification process continues. there in arlington. as far as the manhunt underway and what is happening outside the suspect's home, we continue to see a man with a gun drawn outside of it is suv, outside of the suspect's home. darren can you tell us what that scene tells you about whether they know if anyone is inside and why the person has task force written on his vest outside of the suv outside of the suspect's home with the weapon drawn, what that tells you as you look at that? >> well, we have to take into consideration, still a suspect at large. law enforcement will hold a lot of details close to the vest because they don't want to expose this information and allow lane of access for the suspect to escape. merely having an armed officer in front of the suspect's residence does not reflect a whole lot. we have to take into consideration we're looking to take this person into custody, a very dangerous person. i think that is somewhat telling in terms of why you see an armed officer in front of that person's residence. i want to go back to another quick point. social media will be germ an, we're speaking to an year old, police will get on his skoeshl media and gather information. you have more and more opportunity that are members of the police department that assess social media ousdz traditional digital footprint of a cell phone. a lot of information is coming into police at a very quick pace and arlington police department is very knowledgeable police department, not a large police department in comparison to place like new york city or los angeles, they are very capable in dealing with issues of this magnitude. there is a lot of tips coming into law enforcement and doing necessary triage to potentially find where the suspect is and hopefully can bring him into custody without additional incident. a lot of instances involving shootings and schools end with the suspect being killed. >> trace: there is a concern that police put forth on saying this suspect may in some capacity hurt himself or harm himself. you bring up a great point about social media and the social media footprint kids have now there has been a push in school districts to do more of a full vetting of the social media footprint of some of the kids who might be troubled or who get in trouble at school and have been in fights and stuff. are nufavor of that? do you think that is a good weapon or tool for police to use when you are talking about schools that do thorough vetting of students' social media or is the infringement on personal rights too much of a -- too far a bridge? >> we can't close the gates after the horses escape. the social media is dominant trait in our society and not only police use it, a lot of employers look at one's social media when looking to hire someone, it is telling of the histore cal timeline of who that individual is. one thing we look to is facebook is hot seat in connection with inability to curtail a lot of negative information on social media and that many instances led to instances like we're looking at now. in terms of is it over dlts reach into looking into social media? no, it is part of our culture when we look at technological innovationings and it will not change. it can acts as effective tool for law enforcement to get to who we're looking for or preemt the strike that can potentially happen. now we have someone that created atrocity and we will use social media from a collaborative perspective of not just social media issue but additional footprint of cell phone data and will interview a lot of students in the school. what was propensity for danger of the student, what was he involved with that could lead us to co-conspirrator, the investigation is moving ahead, i'm confident it is a matter of time we will arrest the suspect or he will lose his life as a result. >> sandra: stand by as we continue breaking coverage of shooting in arlington, texas at a high school there. local reporter on the ground, let's listen in. >> they want to know what is done to prevent something like this from happening in the future. they are hearing the same rumors, seeing videos and pictures, things circulating on social media. we know how information 2r68s and we'll be careful what we reports and tell you what we know then i'll tell you what we don't know. this is the area police are searching, arlington police, grand priory, mansfield police involved in this search on harris ridge drive and collins street. this is just a few blocks away from timberview high school. they are searching for timothy george simpkins, as we said, several times, 18 years old. they believe he got into a fight at school, drew a weapon and the shooting happened. he fled the school and they believe he may be driving a 2018 silver dodge license plate pfy-6260. i had viewers asking what that looked like, i tweeted a picture. head to my facebook to see the image. we have not seen the dodge charger in this neighborhood on harris ridge drive. investigators are focused on one house, we see them surrounding that area, outside of the home. we've been here a couple hours now and nothing has happened, we haven't seen anyone go in and out of the house or urgency from the officers on the street. they have everything blocked off, flashing lights. one thing we're curious about is the van that's parked in the driveway there. you see the back passenger side is open, makes you wonder if someone was in the van and ran out or stopped by police and pulled inside to be interviewed, we don't know the answers. we don't know if officers are insides home, we don't know if anyone is in the house. the house comes back to someone with the same last night, simpkins, it could be a relative, we don't know if he lives at this house, if he stays here or somewhere else or came here because he knows people here or if he came here at all from the school. those are answers we hope to gets, police are not telling us at this point in time. their focus is finding him and making sure he's aphundreded, they believe he's armd and dangerous. this is a school shooting. he had a weapon. they believe he could still have the weapon. they are asking anyone who sees him or knows where he is to call 911, do not approach him, that could be a dangerous situation 6789 tim and lauren. brandon and lauren, excuse me. >> sandra: trace that was fox news afollowiate shannon murray reporting. she is reporting similarly to us there is limited information about the ongoing manhunt for the suspect on the screen, timothy george simpkins. pointing out there is a van in the driveway of the suspect's home, with the door open. we don't have details as to what specifically police are looking for there, our police that we have had former police detectives on this program have beg your pardon telling us, it is standar procedure to secure the home of the suspect for later on. reunification site out of mansfield, texas, where there has been bus after bus pulling up and unloading students one by one and taking their name and letting them walk in to be reuniified with their parents. manhunt continues for a man police are warning armed and dangerous. they are outside the suspect's home, police continue to search for that 18-year-old man on the screen. >> trace: live picture on the left-hand side of the screen, senior correspondent casey stegall is live at the reunification site in arlington, texas. we've been watching the students get off the bus. a lot of students still have their backpack, it was standard that students had to get rid of their backpack and put their hands up to clear them as not being a suspect. it appears that policy has changed a. what are you hearing and seeing on the ground? >> it is possibly, keep in mind, that is a process happening inside away from the cameras, they said they were going to be very meticulous when it comes to release of the students. it is very possible they have gone through their backpacks as they have gone through every classroom, every closet, every nook and cranny of that high school before they were given the official all clear. watching buses pull up now and -- guessing numbers issue at least two dozen that were stacked up outside of the high school, saw ariel pictures of those just on standby for official all clear to be give. now the kids are coming out and being police escorted down debbie road in front of the mansfield independent school performing arts center. lots of parents are anxiously awaiting to get their little ones safely in the car and no doubt hugs and tears will be exchanged when reunification happens the this point. a little perspective at the top of the hour, you and sandra were asking how close all this is related, i have information for you. the person of interest home, at least address listed to bes person of interest or the suspect, where we're seeing the police activity, two miles from timberview high school. we're talking very close there. it is about four and a half miles or so to the reunification center. again, there was confusion earlier with parents showing up at the actual high school and now trying to make th way four and a half miles to our location, where these are happening. very fluid and police and everyone have reiterated, you hate to sound trite. we know this could have been much worse. we have three people taken to area hospitals, some said to be in surgery. at this point, police have not mentioned anything of life-threatening nature, sometimes that terminology is used when things do not look great or if the situation is grave. so at least they are in good hands, level one trauma center close by, now of course the search is on for the person who pulled the trigger. >> sandra: last police update, 12:00 eastern time hour, been a couple hours now since then, we hope to get another police update soon. the manhunt is underway. they are looking for a suspect who they say armd and dangerous. can you update, casey, the scene around you as parents are reunited? you can only imagine the fear that went through the parents minds. one of our police earlier pointing out a lot of kids have cell phones in the high school and would be able to reach out and let a parent know they are okay. >> that is the saving grace, a lot of parents sitting in line they have for hours been in contact with their children. they knew they were safe, but still unsubtling no less. show you soon, the reunification center. about half mile or so off of the main road where everyone is, we're not actually able to see the parents and kids being reunited. we are just starting to see people walking away, parents are walking up to the center. a lot going on out here. >> sandra: we are going to have a lot more on this breaking situation there. mansfield, texas, reunification center a couple miles away. the high school, where there was a shooting in a classroom, the suspect has been identified. the manhunt is underway, we'll bring breaking details when we return. quick break, we'll be right back would be eligible today for a va home loan. so many do not know that. . your eligibility for the va home loan. every veteran, every service member out t if you're thinking about buying a home if you're thinking about a cash out refi whatever you're thinking with a mortgage, you should come to newday usa first. veteran homeowners. three reasons to do a cash out refi right now. home values are high while rates are low. newday lets you borrow all 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threat operation center. these are parents,let administration want reported when dealing with terror concerns. the left has gone from saying critical race theory wasn't a thing to unleashing the feds on parents. let's get live to mark merdeath in washington this afternoon. mark. >> the justice department says school board meetings are getting out of hand and board members face constant threats of violence. to stop this disturbing trend, the attorney general is directing the f.b.i. and others to see what they can do about i threats are discouraged, identify them when they occur and prosecute them appropriate. justice department wants concerned parties to call in and report threats to the f.b.i. and reviewed by national threat operation center. for monthss, we have seen school board meetings get heated. parents are speaking up to question and sometimes criticize educational policies being handed down. getting the feds involved brings it to a whole new level. >> what they are saying, take what we give you. if you challenge a government takeover of your children,if you challenge what we are doing, we are going to turn you over to the f.b.i. and shame on the teachers unions for doing this. >> interest groups representing school board members say they had to step in. they are thanking the justice department for getting involved. the individuals intent on causing chaos, many are not connected to local schools, are drowning the voices of parents, who must be heard. parents are telling fox today they are ready to speak up because they are concerned about what they are seeing in the classrooms and looking more likely this issue will dominate next year's mid-term election about what is going on inside the classrooms. >> trace: about to scream from the rooftops. >> sandra: thanks for being here, put the "new york post" cover this morning up on the screen for everyone to see. are these domestic terrorists with a photograph of concerned parents, not domestic terrorists. and the outrage as the f.b.i. is now targeting angry moms. they are responding to this, moms are. am i what a domestic terrorist looks like, a concerned parent? >> i think it is important to understand this entire campaign unleashing the f.b.i. against parent protesters is predicated on a lot. i read through the entire nsva report, which alleged extreme acts of violence and terrorism. when you go through the footnotes, you realize they only come up with one single example of single threat in illinois, which should be condemned, but hardly can say parents are racist and white supremacist, now they are domestic terrorist and use full force of the federal government to criminalize decent. if you disagree on critical race theory and masks, you are an enemy of the state. this is massive overreach and we need to push back hard, now and be relentless on this campaign. >> trace: a lot of people asking where are we going, this country was built on robust debate. now you can't debate covid, can't debate climate or kids because people on the left want that criminalized, what is happening here? >> it all starts with the universities. for years conservatives laughed off the idea that speech could mean violence, thinking it would be held on campus as ridiculous side show. now we're seeing the justice department, the f.b.i., president and white house are taking this philosophy, which is intellectually bankrupt, the idea that speech is violence and applying to protests. language has been heated, that is how political debate works and always had. they are saying it is now domestic terrorism and could be used as pretext for almost anything, they want conservatives out of the public sphere, want ideas out of the school board and media and will stop at nothing until they achieve it. >> sandra: the case is being made anti-crt parents are being targeted and the biden administration is trying to silence and separate parentss. this can kevin mccarthy this morning. listen. >> not just a move against parents, trying to silence and separate. they want to go into the closest areas to politics, school board. now they want to intimidate a parent from question whatting is being taught to children and what is answer from the biden administration? silence you, nationalize elementary school. this is wrong. this is against what america believes. >> sandra: that was from earlier this morning. >> that is right. it is key question is this, not critical race theory or not critical race theory, masks or no masks, the question is who is ultimate authority of public institution? is it public, parents, voters or unelected bureaucrats and teachers ruinions that want to jam down this curriculum in all 14,000 local school districts. the american people still have instinct for self-rule and are rising up all over this country. my message is simple, do not stop, double down, refocus your efforts issue lead with a sense of propriety, don't advo indicatoricate in a violent way. show the biden administration the american people are the ultimate rulers of this country, otherwise all is lost. >> trace: the superintendent association released a statement, basically said we can't let christopher, frustrations evolve into name calling and intimidation, that was the quote, name calling and intimidation and now suddenly they are eshg kwating that to domestic terrorism. >> it is astonishing, name calling is bad, you shouldn't do it, third graders can deal with name calling, fourth graders can deal with name calling. these people are so brittle and power mapped they will do anything they can to shut up parents? we should be absolutely using polite language and effective discourse, but guess what, politics sometimes gets rowdy and sometimes gets heated, that is nature of public debate. we can't let them define the terms and shut us out. >> sandra: christopher, your message to a parent who does want to stand up and their voice be heard, they are not seeing what they like being taught in your kids' classrooms, your message? >> speak the truth, don't give an inch, your child's future is at state. good luck. >> sandra: thanks for joining us. obviously all acts of violence should be condemned, if that is happening in school board meetings. an instance in illinois. many parents are getting louder and might be stands on their chairs saying, do we look like do mefts icter rifts? we care about what our kids are learning in the classroom. >> trace: they are furious, go back to the debate in virginia, parents don't need to weigh in on what their kids are being taught. parents want to know what their kids are be taught. people are furious. >> sandra: we will keep covering that and back to texas, where we've been tracking the latest developments after a shooting there at a high school this morning. >> we know police in arlington say four people were hurt after 18-year-old opened fire. we believe three of those were students and one was a teacher. the fourth one apparently was only injured slightly and did not go to the hospital. three others are in the hospital. they say a fight broke out in the school and then that is when the suspect pulled a gun. >> sandra: that suspect we know at this hour, trace, is on the run. police say he might be driving a 2018 silver dodge charger. we have been watching the scene outside of his house all morning. this is reunification on the left side of the screen at performing arts center at timberview high school. all studentss getting picked up by parents and being accounted for and names given one by one to manage expectations of what happened this morning. >> trace: before we get to the reunification, i wonder if we have pictures, live look of where the suspect lives. a local reporter pointed out a couple things. there is a van in the trief that seems to be the focus and look down at the top of the screen, there ark peers to be an suv that has the tail gate opened, parked in the middle of the street. that is not the 2018 silver dodge charger. we don't know the significance of either vehicle, local and federal officers have been all over those vehicles in some capacity, they believe there is something of significance that might lend the investigation. now back to the reunification point in mansfield, texas, where senior correspondent casey stegall has an update. casey. >> casey: trace and sandra, let me set the scene for you now that you can see me and we can bring live pictures. you see in the distance, that is the center, that is the performing arts center. debbie road is in front of us, where you see the activity and you can see as my photographer scott pans down the line, the line stretches for miles and miles and miles. these are all parents waiting to get directed into the parking lot and driven up to the performing arts center and reunited with their child after really terrifying situations unfolded this morning just after 9:00 or so. multiple gunshots reported, in fact out of three people hurt and taken to area hospitals police say a few are undergoing surgery as we speak. you can imagine the agony for parents, that is your typical suburban neighborhood, it is one of those places you hear about when people say, i wouldn't believe anything like that would happen here. the parents here are rattled. listen. >> a lot of parents are scared, worried. we are all sick. and we're just hoping for the best, we're hoping there is no tragedys and all of our babies can come out of that school okay. >> casey: shows how it changes in an instant and situations like this put that into sharp focus. 18-year-old timothy george simpkins, police have named as their person of interest and they have identified an address that matches his, that is two miles from the school. reunification spot is four and a half miles from the school. all this within a small radius. the u.s. marshal office is involved in this manhunt and other federal agencies right now all-hands on deck situation, trying to get the suspect or person of interest apprehended. as far as what the fight was about in the first place that led to all of this, that is still unclear right now. >> sandra: we are working to authenticate that video, that will eventually tell police so much about what happened in the classroom. waiting on confirmation from the police, they were not able to confirm during the briefing whether or not this is a student at the high school. we had a female student join us who said she believed he is, but she did not know him personally. as far as stories we're hearing, casey, reminder, we are seeing students reunited with parents, they were under two-hour lockdown. this are stories emerging of student barricading doors, stacking chairs and desks behind their classroom doors, are you hearing more storiess like that and what the students went through for two hours there was an active shooter situation? >> casey: the same stuff you you have heard, the same stuff we hear unfortunately as other incidents like this play out. an active shooter is declared, be it military installation, movie theater, a school, shopping center, we have really seen it all. you hear those stories of people talking about gunshots and locking themselves in closets, barricading themselves in rooms, pulling furniture across the doorway to try to stop the shooter or the threat from getting to you. yes, what an absolute terrifying few hours for the 1200 -- sorry, 2000 students that go to this school. that is a pretty big campus, you are talking nearly 2000 kids on a high school campus. i think in the coing days we will continue to hear more stories from teachers, probably stories of survival as other people typically tend to put themselves in harm's way sometime necessary situations just to protect others. stories of true heroism is we're lucky we are not reporting any fatalities today in texas. >> sandra: indeed, casey stegall, thank you, we'll check back in soon. >> trace: we should note arlington 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them through this tragic incident. also, i want you to know we've increased security with additional police officers at all schools in arlington. now all the schools have been locked out, not locked in, locked out, meaning nobody can get into the school necessary arlington and mansfield independent school district. we are going to release that and make sure parents can come in and they can be released. lockout means they are free to move within the school itself. nobody can enter the schools. this is going to be a long-term continuing investigation and processing the crime scene. i'm proud to be part of this community. grand prairie police department, arlington, mansfield police department, mansfield independent school district and our partners, it will be long-term and the arlington police department will be the lead on the criminal side. the f.b.i. is helping us here and will process the crime scene. we have atf, we have a weapon that was recovered. it was recovered in the street in grand prairie, grand prairie police department recovered that, it is going to be turned over to atf to run ballistics. more to come on that. also want to talk about social media. we've been having a lot of social media comments about threats to our schools from young kids. i want the message to be out there. this is not something to continue. we will investigate you. federal government will also partners will be able to investigate you if you are not live nothing our city and we will bring you successful prosecution, i'm pleading with the community to try to stop any type of threats coming through social media. i will turn it over to the chief. >> thank you, kevin. chief with the grand prairie police. couple of comments. our teams finished searching the school, we didn't have additional threats. the suspect is in custody. i want to underscore a point chief kolbye just made. there were inaccurate social media threats. i have call to action for parents, take a look at your kid's social media. if they are putting out threats, they will be arrested and prosecuted. get involved with your kid's social media. our teams were diverted away from leads with inaccurate information at schools all over north texas. it would be helpful for parents to take look at accounts of their kids. last thing i will say, the collaborative effort with arlington police department, grand prairie police department, marshal, fugitive task force and others, mansfield, mansfield isd worked well together to get the suspect into custody quickly. no danger to the public, the public is safe and the suspect is in custody. relates to weapon mentioned by the chief, our officer transported a weapon, that was located in the street. we cannot confirm it is the weapon, we believe it may be the weapon. it is being transported to alcohol, tobacco and firearms team to do analysis to determine if it is the right weapon. chief kolbye's team and chief john ondrasik will run lead on investigative efforts. grand prairie police department will be here to sports them however we can. with that, thank you. >>.45-caliber. thank you. >> thank you, chief. >> chief from the city of mansfield, i want to echo i hope what you see here is response you will get from texas ark agencies, we will respond appropriately in unified response. what that means you saw the mansfield police department here standing alongside mansfield isd with grand prairie and arlington, all federal partners are here, we brought this to a very quick resolve. and without incident. it should be noted, everybody responded well and they responded appropriately in this and iment to thank you for being here and i want to thank our viewers for sending leads and i have to echo the same thing in our city. if there is false allegations going on social media, we are not going to tie up resources, we will prosecute those. we can't tie up resources in an event like this to track down unsubstantiated leads. please continue to be involved in your children's lives just like the chiefs are saying, be involved in what is going on in your schools and know for sure that we are going to be standing here side by side with you. thank you for your participation and thank you for being here. >> donald williams mansfield isd associate superintendent for communication. i want to begin by stating it has been impressive to see the tremendous work that happened with the local law enforcement, they worked extremely well to bring this particular situation to a closure. next thing, relates to the -- reunification process. we have 1700 students -- >> sandra: you got the update, the suspect is in custody, arlington police confirming the suspect was taken in without incident and charged with aggravated assault with a gun, most students have been safely evacuate friday timberview high school. they are thanking everyone for their help. trace, a focus on social media and ongoing threats from students at the high school that police said diverted police to the threats taking away resources for the manhunt for the suspect. he is now in custody. >> trace: we've been hearing about threats online diverting police forces, i don't know what the threats were aimed at, they were false threats. when you have a scoot shooting, any other threat is high priority, you can imagine that police were clearly divided going and responding to various threats and there was concern about this. they said they found a weapon, they don't know if it is the weapon. 45-caliber found in the street, the suspect apparently did dump that weapon in the street. bring in senior correspondent casey stegall live with more on this. >> casey: trace, you took the words out of my mouth, that weapon that was recovered, in fact, he said was being sent to the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives and it will undergo extensive ballistics testing and depending what kind of evidence was 4r69s -- left at the scene, they can pinpoint an exact match and help in potential prosecution here. not to be trite, but a collective sigh of relief for this typically quiet dallas suburb where people got up this morning like any typical wednesday and sent their kids off to school and then quarter after 9:00 local time, quarter after 10 eastern time, reports of multiple shots fired inside the high school on the second floor and the fact the suspect got ark way or the person of interest got ark way. you have that active manhunt that has come to a close. a weapon, 45-caliber gun recovered that is being sent to the atf for investigation. here is now where the reunification process is we've been talking about is going to be playing out for a long time. all of the kids are bussed through here, every once in a while, you hear police you sirens and you will have a stream of about five or six school buses that will skrip down this road here, police escorted. those are school buses full of students that are being brought from four miles or so away from the high school and then here to this spot, where they are going to be reunited with their parents. scott king, my photographer, is panning down the road and the traffic is unbelievable, especially when you look at it locally on google map or something, it is just red all the way around campus of 2000 people. it is going to take a lot of time to empty out. but again, this collective sigh of relief the manhunt component of this is over, however, out of the four injured, one is critical at this hour and we can't forget that. trace. >> trace: go ahead, sandra. >> sandra: no, go. >> trace: i am curious, you mentioned scott king's shot, he is the best look at the other side, the students, my question there, what is the process for the students? there are a lot of them, are they checking each bag and questioning them as far as the investigative process? >> not every child is being questioned, that was talked about in the press conference, they had some eyewitnesses, i'm assuming, one can only assume, those are students or personnel, staff that were inside the classroom or the multi-purpose room, wherever this incident occurred. yes, there have been some students, a handful being detained for questioning, as far as the others and the process, we don't know the specifics, we talked earlier in the hour, whether they are going through everyone's backpack individually before they are released to their parents, we're not sure, back to you. >> sandra: casey, grand prairie, where they recover this weapon, they believe to be the weapon used inside of the classroom, they are determining, was found in grand prairie, about due west of arlington about a six, seven-mile drive, 15-minute drive. considering this happened just after 9:00 this morning, the suspect did not make it too far. he is now in custody. casey stegall on the ground. thank you. next up, an in-depth look at the chaos in afghanistan as america's longest war came to an end. our own trey yingst is live and will join us soon. this 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past six weeks reporting across afghanistan from the dangers facing women to the food crisis leaving kids starving. he's taken us inside the taliban. take a look. >> trey: we've ark arrived in kabul, afghanistan, evacuations continue at this hour. spokesman told fox news anyone with a foreign passport could leave the country, the reality, it remains extremely difficult. are a number of people who work at the u.s. embassy and are left behind. >> civilians outside of kabul grab for food as car with aide workers drive by. >> in the center part of kabul this are internally displaced afghans. you see the little children. >> we want to be safe and we want our children to be educated and go. >> with the taliban in control, religion will play integral role in education. >> in charge of a unit that included suicide bombers, roadside bomb makers and combat fighters. he says the taliban fought too hard not to have laws put in practice. taliban banned women from working in government positions. biggest problem for the taliban is convincing the world they have changed. >> we speak with this young law student at kabul university, taliban showed up, intimidating her issue forcing us to end the interview. >> in kabul, kids are being treated for malnutrition, five days here last month waiting for international aide to arrive. >> for many of the groups young fighters, this is the first sprps they have had with modern society, kabul remains experiment through tribal extremism. >> sandra: trey yingst is back in the states and joins us now. i'm happy to see you back here safely, may we last sat together in this studio. >> trey: may, just after the war in israel and gaza. >> sandra: what was it like to operate in that environment as long as you did in afghanistan and taking us, our viewers inside the taliban? >> trey: a lot of pressure when you are reporting inside taliban-controlled territory, that is where my crew and i operate best. we stay safe and get the story out to the viewer says. our focus was on safety, how to get in the streets of kabul to talk to taliban and people affected by the rule of taliban and the chapter for afghanistan. day-to-day calculation we had to make every time we left the hotel, whether with the taliban fighters, at the prison they took over or in the malnutrition ward of a hospital in afghanistan talking to families who will starve in international aid does not flow back into the country. >> sandra: trace is with us. >> trace: i'm a fan of trey, tip of the hat for his reporting. i'm curious, what is sourcing like? how are you doing your sourcing and is it logistical nightmare to get the reports on the air? >> trey: it is logistical challenge, you drink tea with people, that is how we approach sourcing with the taliban. you have to make sure you gain the trust of officials and fighters, we're not talking about average source when reporting stateside in new york or washington, d.c., you are talking about radical factions of a group considered a terrorist organization by the u.s. government. we interviewed haqqani of the haqqani network. he delivered suicide bombings, in the past at the hotel where we spoke to him at. you have to take this into account and understand the individuals are human, they have motivation, reasons why they do things and they experience emotion and you have to really dig into that emotion, let them know you are there as journalist not to help them or hurt them, put to tell the story on the ground in afghanistan and work from there. sometimes that takes hours, you set up meetings and have conversations with bad individuals, bad humans and basically say we are hear to tell the story and you tell that story in accurate fashion to viewers in way people can understand and ultimately care. >> sandra: you are giving us remarkable look at the day of the life of a reporter inside of afghanistan, trey. to perspective on the threat we face today, a month after the united states left afghanistan. >> trey: the biggest danger right now is americans left behind who could be targeted by the taliban or by groups like isis-k, u.s. allies, american residents and citizens on the ground in afghanistan. people who helped the united states over the last 20 years, embassy workers, people who put their lives on the line to help americans and they are stuck, left behind and many will be killed, threatened and targeted if the u.s. government and international bodies like the united nations don't come up with a plan to get them out. the taliban is in control of afghanistan, the entirety of the country. innocent civilians, who lived with good intention, not members of taliban, are stuck in the country. >> sandra: we can speak for all our colleagues, thank you for the reporting you have done there and the scenes like this, you have delivered to our viewers inside of afghanistan. you have taken us through it every single day. thank you, great job. >> trace: great job, thank you, trey. fox news ark letter, breaking news on the fight to raise the debt ceiling, jack keane is live at the white house. jacky. >> we are tweft days out from hitting the debt ceiling and the president had a meeting with ceos from banks, trying to drive down the pressure on republicans they need to sign on to measure that is going to be voted on shortly to raise the debt limit. republicans have said, look, we will not help democrats raise the debt limit if they are pushing through social spending along party lines. they can use the same tool to raise the debt limit, they have unified control of the government. coming up on the deadline in 12 days and just learnedlearned mi mcconnell made an offer to chuck schumer expedited reconciliation process, say democrats move to raise the debt limit on their own, republicans will not get in the way and bring a thousand different amendments to the floor, extend this vote-a-ramma, it is hijinx and political posturing. you can do it, we will not stop you and gum up the process with a lot of show on the floor. alternatively, offering democrats short-term extension until november, the extension would let democrats further prepare for reconciliation. takes teeth out of the display the president had pointing blame to republicans saying, they are not getting onboard to raise the debt limit, any default is on them. republicans are offering democrats this patch, have more time, get yourself together and we'll allow that time and support you to have it. the thinking on this, according to one republican leadership aid, they tell me democrats can cure ills by end of the month using reconciliation, track they are using to track social spending and use the same process to pass a one-page debt ceiling by december. so basically here, republicans are saying, look, we will allow you democrats to raise the debt ceiling some point or the other. will not vote to raise it and will not stand in your way, either, it will go through a temporary fix or do it now and not stand in your way. back to you, guys. >> thank you, jacqui heinrich. >> energy prices are soaring, oil hitting a seven-year high and experts are warning americans will continue to pay the price at the pump and beyond. bring in phil flynn, senior market analyst, man i've known for many years now. great to see you, phil. what does all this mean for the american consumer? we see the prices at the pump, americans are paying more for gas today than they have in years, phil. is this going to continue? >> phil: it will continue. i think you are seeing the first realization of the green new energy deal and it is getting to be the green raw energy deal for consumers. this is a direct result of the green energy transition and basically is global shortage, not just here in the united states, it is worse in other parts of the world, places like china and europe, you are seeing the price of natural gas go as high as $250 per barrel crude equivalent. we have a problem and it is because we didn't really plan ahead on this green energy thing, we've closed down oilfields and discouraged production and investment in fossil fuel and we're wondering why we're short when demand goes up. >> sandra: we're watching all this debate happening on capitol hill, what is going to happen with the debt acela something janet yellen warning it would be catastrophic to the economy and markets if they arkllow that to happen. lawmakers are saying, don't worry, that is not going to happen. i don't know, you tell us what you think. this is what the average american is seeing happen in the meantime. inflation is a huge concern, we see it in the polls, we're paying more for just about everything, used cars and trucks, you have seen double-digit increases, if you bought a car recently, you have experience this. everyday fuel we use kerosene and propane up, meat, eggs, price of everything continues to go up, here we are looking at washington, debating trillion dollar spending plans. doesn't that mean more inflation and higher prices across the board? >> phil: it does and it is insanity, isn't it? it doesn't make sense. if you want to write a recipe, i want to grate stag-flation, make sure prices of everything go up, washington, you are doing a great job. let's create a phony crisis over the debt ceiling, get interest rates to go up, spend money we don't have, print money, devalue currency and you get into the situation where you're getting into inflationary environment and americans are waking sxup smelling the coffee, starting to realize what is going on in washington is affecting their daily lives and not liking what they are seeing at the gat gas pump or grocery bill. >> sandra: this gives you a sense of the trajectory of gas prices, they have been going up and up and up and when it comes to politics, voters don't like to see high price tags when they fill up. if that trajectory continues, have you that situation, you are looking $4 for a gallon of gasoline again, and that wouldn't be good politically, either. great to see you phil. >> phil: congratulations on all the years at fox news and the anniversary. >> sandra: thank you, sir. good to see you. >> trace: gas is $5 a gallon in california. potential breakthrough in decades-long manhunt for a murderer, do we know the true identity of the zodiac killer? next. veteran homeowners. newday usa has dropped their rates again. the newday two and a quarter refi is the lowest rate in their history. two and a quarter percent. just 2.48 apr. these rates could cut thousands off your mortgage payments every year. with their two and a quarter refi, there's no money out of pocket and no upfront fees. newday's holding the line on those low rates so every veteran family can save. >> tech: when you get a chip in your windshield... trust safelite. this couple was headed to the farmers market... when they got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them. >> woman: really? >> 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80 years old. tom colbert who identified d.b. cooper says they have confident they have nailed the zodiac. >> my fbi guys say it's irrefutable. it's a match. we have six people that he's confessed to, that he was the zodiac. three of them on our court affidavits. so we strongly feel that. then, of course, one of the murder scenes in riverside. we have counted six different similarities to the zodiac at the murder scene. >> colbert is calling on the riverside police department to test dna with the zodiac's. the department has not answered our request for comment and whether they will do that. back to you. >> john: thanks, eric. busy hour, sandra. we can point out the big headline is that the school shooter has been arrested and they also found what they think is the weapon used in that shooting, sandra. >> sandra: and there will be continuing coverage of that and more on the fox news channel. thanks for joining us on "america reports." i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm trace gallagher. "the story" with martha maccallum continuing coverage of breaking news starts now. >> martha: thanks, guys. good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum in new york. right now this is "the story." moments ago, police announcing that the suspect in this high school shooting in arlington, texas that injured four is now in their custody and they're currently questioning this 18-year-old. the detectives in this case, police say he turned himself in. he went in with an attorney after a relatively short man hunt, less than a couple hours involving the fbi and the u.s. marshals. they say this stemmed from a fight that broke out from a classroom in the school.

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