government experts and officials a alike, and that is after the u.s. left afghanistan, the country will flip slowly but surely towards chaos, slowly but surely towards a civil war. the attack took place outside a mosque in kabul, and it targeted a memorial service for the mother of the taliban spokesman. at least eight civilians, we now believe, were killed and more wounded. although there was no immediate claim of responsibility, isis-k are the key suspects, and since the taliban took over attacks have increased dramatically. indeed, there was another deadly attack that left four dead, and in the last week alone isis have claimed a series of attacks in the country killing dozens of civilians and taliban fighters. told's attack was also the -- today's attack was also the first in can kabul since 13 u.s. soldiers and 200 civilians were killed during that chaotic withdrawal in afghanistan. experts have warned that a civil war could easily replicate the chaos we saw in syria from which isis was able to carve out its first caliphate. the u.s. does not have a presence in or around afghanistan. the bottom line, mike, is if the taliban can't stop attacks like this, if they can't pay government salaries, if they continue to subjugate people across the country, mainly so many women, they will not govern effectively. that leads towards chaos, towards the path of civil war. that is a major national security threat to the u.s. mike? mike: benjamin hall starting us off from london, thanks very much. ♪ ♪ mike: and here in the u.s. lawmakers still working on finding some agreement over president biden's massive spending bills, this as progressive and and moderate democrats clash on key points david spunt is live9 from the white house with the latest. good afternoon, david. >> reporter: hi, mike. as a u.s. senator, joe biden spent almost 40 years working on capitol hill compromising. however, right nows there is a palpable tension over on the hill not between republicans and democrats, that's to be expected, but between democrats and democrats. president biden right now is at his longtime home of wilmington, delaware. he walked out yesterday onto the south lawn, told reporter toes he'll take his time pushing both infrastructure and social spending. but he and advisers are telling progressives they must come off their $3.5 trillion top line for that social spending bill. >> what we've said from the beginning is it's the never been about the price tag. it's about what we want to deliver. the price tag comes out of that. so we understand that we, you know, the 3.5 we thought was negotiated already is clearly not negotiated. >> reporter: moderates like congressman josh gottheimer from new jersey, they want to priortize an infrastructure bill, roads, bridges. he worked alongside republicans, he's complaining that progressives along with house speaker nancy pelosi continue to hold up infrastructure so that social spending can move through. he put out a statement on friday calling out the house speaker. it's deeply regrettable that speaker pelosi breached her firm public commitment to members of congress and the american people to hold a vote and to pass the once in a century bipartisan infrastructure bill on or before september 27th. but one of the president's top advisers, a former member of congress himself, is playing the middle road hoping that divisions do not become permanent, also telling chris wallace on "fox news sunday" these bills may become one in a sense. chris: would you agree that at this point both the moderates in the democratic party have a veto over the spending bill, in effect, and the progressives in the party have a veto over the infrastructure bill? >> well, their future may be intertwined a little bit. we don't necessarily agree that it is, that they're mutually exclusive. >> reporter: mike, a couple of things to watch over the next couple weeks, the debt limit ceiling. we'll see if the united states hits its limit. that happens on october 19th. also government funding, that runs out december 3rd if congress does not vote and agree, we're talking about agreeing to extend this funding for the government to stay open. mike? mike: david spunt live on the north lawn, thanks very much. for more on how the spending debate's playing out on capitol hill, we are joined on the phone by iowa republican senator, member of the senate budget and finance committees chuck grassley. senator, welcome. >> i'm really glad to be with you, mike. thank you for the opportunity. mike: great to have you. vermont senator bernie sanders said today progressives are going to win the spending battle. >> we've got all but two senators at this point in the democratic caucus on our side. to we're going to win this thing, we've got to pass a strong infrastructure bill, and we're going to pass the reconciliation bill. mike: how do you respond if, senator grassley? >> well, if they stick together, they can do almost anything. but we've got some wise democrats that are raising the question about spending $6 trillion on top of what was spent last year to get the economy back up and running that was all bipartisan. now if they want to be strictly partisan, leave the republicans out of it, they can do that. but there's some democrats that are responsible moderates, and maybe they can stop it or at least make it more reasonable. but any of these new programs are going to be with us for the rest of our life, and they're not sustainable at the level they're putting them in place. mike: what about the sticker shock? we're talking $3.5 trillion. that number may come down, but you're also talking about new entitlement programs that once washington hands them out can never seem to take them back. so couldn't this be many more trillions of dollars, sir? >> well, well beyond the $3.5 trillion that they have in that one bill that they have a hard time getting agreement on, yes. but way beyond that those programs will be costing trillions every ten years for the next fifty years or maybe a hundred years. because once you get a program started even if it's started on a temporary basis, there's very few programs that are temporary in government. mike: there are already inflation concerns when folks go to the grocery store, they go to the gas station and elsewhere. how is that impacting constituents back home in iowa? >> well, i hear about it all the time. and particularly what's kind of astounding me when you have an outstanding harvard professor by the name of larry summers that was in clinton the's cabinet as secretary of treasury and he told the us in january and then genre peopled it in april, you shouldn't -- repeated it in april, you shouldn't spend any money, we already spent too much in 2020 to get us out of the virus and get the vaccine going and get the economy turned around. already at christmas he said it was too much. now $6 trillion on top of it is going to throw gasoline on the fires of inflation. and they want republicans to help them increase the debt limit. we don't agree with the policy. they don't even let us at the table to talk these programs over with us. so why would we help them accomplish what they want to accomplish when it's it's going to ruin it for our grandchildren and great grandchildren with this tremendous debt besides the inflation? mike: you made reference to the debt ceiling. that's expected to come due around the 18th or 19th of this month. how does that play out, sir? >> well, i think i just said so. it's going to play out that if the democrats need to increase the debt limit in order to finance what adds up to $6 trillion of this year's spending in addition to everything else we'd spend anyway, then they're going to have to increase it. republicans, as a responsible political party fiscally, is going to not help them do that. they're going to have to do it on their own. and is you heard manchin say in a article in the "wall street journal" maybe three weeks ago that we should not be feeding the fires of inflation. when i came to congress, there was 17% interest, 14% inflation in the '70s and early '80s. i know what it's like. it should not be repeated. and who does it rob? this inflation robs the poor people and the middle class. mike: the senior senator of the great state of iowa. we missed seeing your smiling face this time, but senator chuck grassley, it's great to have you on this sunday. safe travels, sir. >> thank you very much, good-bye. mike: and let's bring in california democratic congressman, mike desewn area. >> thanks for having me. mike: here is your colleague, congressman jim banks. >> the good news is that this week even though they promised to pass something to their conference, they've failed. so we were glad that they failed this week. but you're right, we can't give up and lose focus on what they're trying to do to our country, do everything we can to prevent it. mike: so you guys are out of town for the next down of old weeks. -- couple of weeks, how do you think things play out during the interim? >> i'm very encouraged in spite of the doom and gloom. this is democracy and this is legislate aring. and i think for americans no one's better at this than nancy pelosi and joe biden. so i'm very, i'm very, very enthusiastic about this. mike: the progressives pushed for $3.5 trillion, moderate democrats say that's way too much. senator joe manchin floated $1.5 trillion. is there a dollar number that will satisfy both moderates and progressives? >> yeah. we'll get there. but it's important to remember, mike, this is whatever the budget amount is, and right now it's 3.5 trillion. it's over the next ten years. and ill argue much of this investment -- i would argue much of this investment having been involved in transportation and human infrastructure at local and state government, federal government, we haven't invested enough over the last 30 years. whether it's bridges and roads, health care, childcare or care for our seniors, you've got to look at it at the broad context of the last, in my view, 50 years and next 10 is years. mike: you have treasury secretary janet yellen saying she's going to run out of ways to pay america's bills around the 18th or 19th of this month. how does that get resolved, sir? >> we've got to, it's just plain and simple. that part should be nonnegotiable, it should be bipartisan. that's fiscal responsibility. let's pay our bills on time, let's be mindful of our credit. but let's is the spirited debate, and americans can take a deep breath and watch it and participate in american democracy that works civilly. mike: while there's great during the over spending in washington, the supply chain is backed up. issues getting products to stores, getting them to consumers and that sort of thing. is there something lawmakers can be doing right now to address that is serious problem? >> yeah, and i've been very involved with this, am now. the global economies has put strains that the average person doesn't see, but those products are coming from far away oftentimes, and that has been neglected as well. as the global economy becomes more interconnected, this is why so important to get these investments right. it makes a difference to the average american wherever they live about how all of this infrastructure's spent. mike: so you are aware of the problem, do you have a legislative solution? is there a way to address the backup of the supply chain? >> there's no easy solution to this, mike. as you know, these are complicated issues, involve long supply chains that benefit people if they're done right. so we have to invest all the way through from your front door all the way from the manufacturing, the research and development whether it's in china or wherever it is, or the united states. we've -- this is, this is a long-term investment because the global economy has changed how we deliver services. mike: we're up against the clock, sir, a few seconds left. to you guys -- do guys get the bipartisan infrastructure and spending package through by the end of the month? >> i don't know what the timeline is. i don't think that's as important as getting it right, but it should be done by the end of the year, for sure, from my intereducative. perspective. mike: congressman, thanks so much for your time. have a great day. >> my pleasure, mike. mike: chris wallace has an exclusive interview with the senate republican from wyoming, john barrasso, for the democrats' perspective, congressman from california, excuse me, ro khanna, member of the progressive caucus, as well as senior adviser to the president, cedric richmond joins chris, that's today right after this show. ♪ ♪ mike: texas governor greg abbott says he's preparing for what's expected to be thousands of migrants trying to cross the texas border, thousands more. jeff paul's live in del rio, texas, with the latest on the latest surgery. jeff? >> reporter: yeah, mike. compared to what we saw two two weeks ago here in del rio, texas, it's been a fairly quiet week. but we are still seeing a steady stream of migrants going across the rio grande, entering the u.s. and essentially giving themselves up to border patrol for processing, and we really don't see any signs of that slowing down. most of the groups this week are around 5-6 people, and we've seen anywhere from from 2 to 4 groups a day coming across the rio grande. but this is just one spot. most of the people we've talked to have all said that they are from cuba or venezuela, and in most cases they traveled from their home country, make it to mexico and then find a place to enter anywhere along the u.s./mexico border. officials in towns like del rio, texas are concerned whether or not their cities can keep up. resources are already stretch, so it's a careful balance. we spoke with commissioner bo middleton who says there could be anywhere from 20-50,000 migrants in mexico currently waiting to find a place to cross. he's worried about when that next caravan will arrive and really where. >> it's inevitable, it's coming again whether it comes to del rio, eagle pass, laredo, mcallen or some other community up and down this border, this issue's coming again, you know? when they continue to change the rules and allow people into this country that cross illegally, it's an open invitation. >> reporter: now, the other thing to keep in mind is that this steady stream of migration doesn't just impact border towns on the american side, it's impacting towns just across the river from where we're at. they have a shelter set up right now, about 1,000 people in there trying to figure out their next move. and on top of that, there's a lot of people from mexico who are legally permitted to come across and work. and when you have those huge influxes like we saw two weeks ago, they had to close the bridge down, stopping many of those folks from making money. mike? mike: this crisis has been nonstop for months now. what are you hearing in terms of the folks on the front lines trying to enforce the laws of the u.s.? what is the level of their morale at this point? >> reporter: well, you know, it's nonstop. you ask 'em how you doing, and they say tired. that's really the response you get, tired. and just this past week there was a new directive issued by alejandro mayorkas saying, essentially, someone coming to this country illegally isn't enough for i.c.e. agents or shouldn't be enough for i.c.e. agents to target those folks for arrest or deportation. the focus right now for i.c.e. agents should be on people who pose a risk to national security or public safety, and that's a big change because during the trump administration the focus anyone, really, that was deemed illegal could be arrested and deported. mike? 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>> look, i think anytime you see big bills like this moving through the congress whether it was the affordable care about or donald trump's tax plan, you often see delays because what you've got to do is you actually got to legislate are. you've got to make things happen, and that requires that people negotiate and talk to each other and talk across the aisle and figure out how you build all this -- put this all together. the american people should have been worried if this bill passed overnight without any debate or without any negotiating. the fact that it's taking time shows you that democrats are being very diligent on how they, one, meet the sort of top line created by joe manchin this week but, two, how they also listen to the voices on the campaign trail which says we have some real issues. last friday 700,000 americans died from covid-19, we passed that mark. we need more nurses, we need more doctors, more physician the assistants. if this bill passes, it will create a pathway and not have to worry about collecting thousands in student loan debt which is why we're taking a time working it through the legislative process. mike: deroy, are those two bills in serious j jeopardy? >> i think the bills are in serious trouble. nancy pelosi, if she can do one thing, it's to count votes. she said we'd have a vote on monday, that didn't happen, on thursday, that didn't happen, supposed to be a vote on friday, that didn't happen. three times it was pulled off the floor, and i appreciate very much richard's civics lesson. the fact is aoc and the far left are literally about $2 trillion apart. senator hand chin said he's not -- senator manchin said he's not going to support the bill unless it includes affluence testing, and he also wants work requirements that if you get money from the government and you unemployed -- you're unemployed, you've got to do the at least some kind of work program or educational program. aoc and nancy city pelosi just want to give this money to people unless they work or not. they just want people to stay home and get money. those are very, very large differences. and we need to make sure that the hyde amendment which makes sure there's no funding for federal a-- federal funding for abortion. mike: yeah, also means testing, something that moderates perhaps want and progressives do not. some have is suggested speaker pelosi's focused on her legacy at this point. will she make some of the moderates walk the plank to get the package done, richard? >> listen, don't fall for the okey-doke here. here's what we know. nancy pelosi is one of the best vote counters that we have in the country when it comes to figure out how we get a bill to become a law. with that being said, it's not necessarily about means testing, but insuring how do we create a level playing field for all americans. and that's what this bill is trying to do. where the democratic party is united and republicans are sitting on their hands is we need to reinvest in america's greatest resource, its people, right? part of that is, one, rebuilding our roads, bridges and airports so we can get to and from places safely, but two, the second part is how do we insure that we keep, we have a healthy work force and we keep americans healthy. this bill will allow for senior citizens to get affordable prescription drugs. beyond that, like i said earlier, it will allow for folks to go into health care who couldn't afford to go into it before. but third ask most importantly, for all those working moms, last december we had a jobs bill, mike, that said 100% of the job losses was american women because they stayed home to take care of loved ones and children. if this bill passes, it'll make it a little bit easier for moms and dads to go back to work who have little ones because it'll pay for early child care which we know can cost as much as a mortgage per month having to send their kids to daycare or to early childhood centers in their neighborhood. yes, it is true this bill is costly, but when you think about what the american people want whether they're democrats or republicans, they know this pandemic laid it bare, and we need to fix that. mike: deroy, some of the spend ising is creating new entitlements, and might that have consequences in terms of trillions more in the decades to come? >> absolutely. for example, the childcare tax credit that is spaced out or actually priced out for only five years. you can do it for ten years, and price goes from $550 billion to $1.1 trillion. they're hiding that. richard talked about making sure americans stay healthy. i'm all for that. that gets very hard to do when you have a brand new medicare price control regulation in this bill. essentially, it says that the drug companies will have prices imposed on them based on foreigns price controls -- foreign price controls base on them. if the companies do not go along, they'll be subject to a 95% tax on the gross sales from those drugs. not profits. and according to merck, they believe that will reduce their available money for r&d by 50%, a professor at the university of chicago estimates 342 fewer drugs in something like ten years because the r&d funds will describe. that's not good for america's health. if you've got diabetes, health care -- heart problems, high blood pressure, what have you, we want new drugs, amazing cures, and this bill a makes it harder to do that which means shorter lives and more misery for americans from coast to coast. mike: gentlemen, many thanks. have an awesome day. >> thank you, mike. ♪ ♪ mike: the u.s. supreme court has decline to hear an emergency request from new york city teachers to block a mandate for covid vaccinations. the deadline for vaccination was the end of the day on friday. david lee miller joins us with what this means when new york city's school children head back to school monday. hey, david lee. >> reporter: mike, the city has moved the goalpost sort of. the official deadline, as you mentioned, for teachers and other department of education workers to get vaccinated was 5 p.m. friday. mayor bill de blasio now says teachers who got a shot over the weekend will be able to keep their job. at last count the city says 93% of teachers complied with the mandate. 9,000 vaccinated substitute teachers are ready to go to work. a teacher says using subs is a bad idea. >> i'll tell you what'll be a danger to the children, bringing in subs that don't know the children in a time where they speak so, they talk so much about social-motional well-being. do you know how many children i hug every single day because we haven't seen each other in 18 months? 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>> it's wrongheaded, what we are -- what we've done since the 20th of january is sent out a signal that if you bring or send your child to the border or if you come to the border and evade the border control -- which is quite likely given the surge that's going on -- that there won't be anybody in the interior to arrest you or take you into custody, and in some jurisdictions you won't even get taken into custody after committing a listen inny. and tell the -- a felony. and telling the rest of the world that if you're just in violation of immigration law, that nobody from i.c.e. or no immigration officer in the country is going to be looking for you. so that signal, that magnet, that draw, it just keeps getting stronger and stronger based on this messaging that's going out. it's not good for the border, for the communities on the border. we saw what happened in del rio 11 days ago, and that's going to occur along our southwest border. the border communities aren't prepared. unfortunately, the men and women of dhs are going to be left toic up the pieces of these reckless policies. and when you tell people that if you're here you get to stay, that's not right. congress needs to act here. they can change the law, they can help enforce the border, they could make sure that the laws are faithfully executed because what that secretary has said is that if you're in the country illegally, you're not a target for enforcement, and that's just wrong. mike: if you were in one of those senior posts that you've served in before right now, what would your recommend be to senior leadership? >> you have to end this surge. you have to send a signal to the world that the border matters, that people that are eligible to come in, that need due cans process will be allowed -- due process will be allowed, but people can't just walk into the country and be released all over the united states. we have to end that. so my recommendation would be to do what we did when president obama was in charge. we added detention space so that people could be held until their hearings or go back to the migrant protection protocols which allow people to claim asylum, have due process, but wait in mexico versus being released in the united states to have that happen. mike: what is your sense of morale of your friends and former colleagues who are there on the front lines trying to enforce the laws of the united states? >> it's terrible. i can tell you directly that it's not good for them because they know the situation that they're in. they don't have a choice to be in. they swore an oath to serve, and so they're in and out every day, and they're facing this pandemic. cbp has lost 20 some, 30 some people this year because of covid. you're watching the border get out of control from the mistake of rescinding policies without the right preparation. and, again, those men and women are the ones that have to pick up the pieces. imagine going to work processing thousands or being in the company of thousands of people who are largely unvaccinated, finishing your shift and then having to go home after that. it's very demoralizing for them. and now they're put upon by having a mandate to get a vaccine. many of these people have already had covid, and there's no accommodation for testing, for people that have antibodies. and so i'm very concerned about their morale. they don't have a choice, you know? this is a resilient work force. they work hard, they're a can-do culture, but it's got to be -- it is very tough for them right now. mike: ron vitiello, thanks so much for your time and analysis today. >> thank you. mike: britney spears speaking out on instagram now that her father has been suspended as her conservator. what she had to say after the break. ♪ muck ♪ mike: after a very long legal battle, jamie spears was suspended as the conservator of britney spears' estate. she posted she's now focused on healing and self-love. we go to christina coleman live in los angeles. >> reporter: hi, mike. a lot has happened for britney since her explosive june testimony when she said she was depressed and traumatized and called the conservatorship abusive. now that her father has been suspended from controlling her $60 million fortune, the pop star says she's healing. on instagram yesterday she posted a picture of a large tree that rah rises above the circle that encases it and in the post says, quote: although there is change and and things to celebrate in my life, i sill have a lot of healinged to do. thankfully, i have a good support system and am taking time to understand it's okay to slow down and breathe. finish and a day after the judge ruled in her favor, she shared this video of her trip with her fiance somewhere is in the pacific and wrote: time to celebrate. but legal experts say she hasn't crossed the finish line just yet. the judge appointed a temporary conservator to replace her dad, opening a path to end the arrangement this fall, and legal experts say there's still financial matters to address as her attorney pushes to investigate exactly what went down and her father's legal fees. >> i think that the strategy with britney spears' lawyer was that they're getting a new conservator in place who's going to have access to the full records. they'll are have the attorney/client privileged information to try to see really what was going on. >> reporter: britney's attorney is pushing to get the conservatorship terminated at her upcoming hearing which is scheduled for november 12th, just weeks away from her 40th birthday. mike? mike: christina coleman, thanks so much. a colorful display in the new mexico skies this weekend. more details coming up next. ♪♪ . . . the best things america makes are the things america makes out here. the history she writes in her clear blue skies. the legends she births on home town fields. and the future she promises. when we made grand wagoneer, proudly assembled in america, we knew no object would ever rank with the best things in this country. but we believed we could make something worthy of their spirit. to run a growing business, is to be on a journey. and along the ride, you'll have many questions. challenges. and a few surprises. but wherever you are on your journey. your dell technologies advisor is here for you - with the right tech solutions. so you can stop at nothing for your customers. mike: saturday the albuquerque international balloon festival returned. several hundred balloons of assorted colors and shapes decorated the new mexico sky, kicking off the start of a nine day celebration that draws people from all around the world. this year, more than 540 balloons registered for the festivities. history is still being made at one of the most solemn and re-veered places in the country. the tomb of the unknown soldier. only women were guarding the tomb after a morning guard change. the soldiers of the old guard have been protecting the tomb of the unknown soldier in all kinds of weather over the years. hurricanes, blizzards, and baking sun, for nearly 31,000 days. the 100th year anniversary of the tomb of the unknown soldier is on veteran's day november 11th, coming up. so that is all for this hour of fox news live. fox news sunday with chris wallace is up next. i'm mike emanuel. thank you for watching. i'm back tomorrow at 1:00 p.m. eastern joining sandra smith for america reports. this week we're celebrating a huge anniversary at fox news. i'm in my 25th year, thankful to be here. thank you for the trust you've shown in all of us. have an awesome day. ♪ chris: i'm chris wallace. president biden tries to end a fight between the moderate and progressive wings of his party. that threatens to derail his domestic agenda. >> we need to get the reconciliation bill. >> for them to get this, elect more liberals. >> doesn't matter if it's in six minutes, six days or six weeks, we're going to get it done. chris: the president pledging to bridge the divide between centrists who want to vote now on a bipartisan infrastructure bill, and progressives, who want to wait for agreement on a sweeping plan to reshape the nation's social safety

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