>> what is, we reveal our big satellite plus and why i feel like a child stuck in the middle of a divorce. >> i can't wait to get to that book first, a spending spree showdown in washington. president biden marked $3.5 trillion in spending and more than 1 trillion for infrastructure but nancy pelosi delays because of division among the moderates and progressives in the democratic party. >> biden is going to work like hell. >> you think by thanksgiving this will be done by thanksgiving? >> i think it will be done by 2:27 a.m., i think it will get done. part of getting back to normal fax year next year. >> she wrote in a letter to democratic colleagues, more time is needed to complete the task. not democrats want free community college for all illegal immigrants, they want 12 million for government electric cars and $3 billion for free equity. you heard me right, moderates won't support does have branding belt, progressive's want all 3.5 trillion. >> the two wings of the party, there is the aoc bernie week, they want both and they are going to uphold the one until they get them both. the other more moderate side, they are mad at kyrsten sinema and joe manchin, the other two democrats opening up and they are mad because they are not progressive enough, forgetting they only got elected because they are not progressive. here's my question, does spending more money take you a better person? or a bigger moderate? >> pick up while bill maher left off, obviously he's talking about moderates in the senate that will be a holdout, pelosi and biden saying no, we are going to get this done and it doesn't sound like it will be three and a half trillion if both aren't there. what does this look like when it's done in october or november? >> what does it look like when we watch bill marr and say this looks like it makes sense, joe biden or joe manchin has said i'm not spending more than $1.5 trillion. that's put a pick in the balloon over in the house who want this massive bill. the problem here is nancy pelosi has a lot of credibility over the course of decades in congress. she told the moderates if they vote for the reconciliation package about 3.5 trillion, she'd bring up their infrastructure package on the 27 of september that day has come and gone and she never product up, she lost all kinds of credibility. i'll take a moment to talk about these numbers, we've spent trillions of dollars last year on covid relief under president trump. that money wasn't even spent in this yet democrats spent 1.9 trillion on covid relief and want to spend 1.2 trillion on infrastructure and 3.5 trillion on this progressive bill, green new deal spending and give redistribution that will be $5 trillion. we are talking $8 trillion this year alone, this is insanity. on the infrastructure bill, only half is for infrastructure and because it's reform the way we do the process, you won't go for ten years. ten years from now. >> three and a half trillion is the human infrastructure and we are living in an environment of massive inflation right now, spending more will not help it but i want to switch gears because when we talk about nancy pelosi, she's been doing this forever and even though she might have lost a little credibility, she's got confidence in herself. >> the master legislature, strategic astute leader, my leadership is recognized on many around the country. >> what you think here? >> she's also been in charged if you look at elections like the 2010 midterm elections or maybe she's a little too big for her britches here but the progressives are pointing at sinema and manchin, they are not up for reelection in 2024. you think they care about this political heat now? dynamic headwind are going to look so different heading into 2024 election, they don't care about what i think is interesting if this if you look at virginia which is going to be good for the midterm in 2022 next year are going to look like, what is the democrat there saying? he said $3.5 trillion price tag is too high and democrat should just go with the infrastructure bill so what does that mean if you look at democrat running for reelection in midterm that have tough racist when you look at mark kelly, rafael warnock or any democrat running in a competitive district in the house? i think democrat maybe slow their role here because nancy pelosi could be walking her party off a cliff. >> they are responding to what their constituents want and that's the issue. tyrus, one and a half trillion by joe manchin, still a lot of human infrastructure to add to the spending with arctic guns but aoc says even that much is not enough. >> the bill passes as underfunded that only gives a crux, you get that because when you only give some not all than some people get nothing. when you saw me, isn't something better than nothing? what i hear is it something for you better? something for you better? want you accept nothing that? >> she saying it's got to be all or nothing and some would say it's being reasonable there. your thoughts? >> when you say six on one hand and five on the other, that makes for. sometimes when you film on a phone, it looks small but when you make a speech and you can hear individual people breathing, it shows how much real support she really has and the second thing, this is why university and went go up to a politician and say thank you for your service because no one thanks you for self-service and that's exactly what the progressives are about, they are not about the american people, we have a built tardy high that we could pass for the first infrastructure bill but no, they are not interested in infrastructure affixing the country, they are interested in the programs special interest groups and friends can make money on, electric cars and pro-government i'm trying to understand this because right now in this country, everyone here, american citizens have friends and family losing small businesses, restaurants can't stay open but you want to make sure illegal immigrants get a great education at a junior college so i'm just confused. >> without a lot of small businesses suffering, they can't hire people even if they raise wages because after the pandemic, nobody wants to work anymore but another issue here is a split in the senate, a 50/50 like this, even the progressives know they have limited amount of time to get things done today better figure out a way to come together and come up with a number that works more than maybe one and a half or less than three and a half but may need to do this, that's the bottom line. >> as aoc says, i'm not going to take part of the pie, i want the whole pie. i'm sorry, you have two chambers, one is in the house and they can get all the votes in the house but as you pointed out, there's a 50/50 split in the senate if you can't lose a senator so they hold a lot of cards as to what the final deal will look like and i serve in congress almost ten years and you have people who think they are pure conservative or. liberal and they are not about compromise. if you want one 100% of everything you want whether in congress or marriage, you end up getting nothing. the answer will be zero and that's why congress is made up for congress to compromise. the sooner she recognizes that, the sooner she will get there. even one point five trillion is massive and i disagree with that, too. >> compromise is an important word here. when biden ran, he said he would be a unifier and bring both sides together. that doesn't look like it so much right now. we have to leave it there, for the border being closed, providing a ministration thanks could get at the border, new numbers show how bad is and we will give you those numbers coming up next. ♪♪ welcome back to the big saturday show, a new report says the department of homeland security is preparing for as many as 4000 migrants across the border this month. new numbers show a huge spike important encounters when looking at fiscal year 2021 compared to 2020. the rio grande valley sector up nearly five 100% and del rio sector, more than five 100%. listen, this is a massive increase in migration, we know that. massive consequences across the country whether it's more spending on healthcare for migrants and education and food and housing so tyrus, what kind of impact will this have on america? what impact will this have on the country as a whole in your opinion? >> whatever you say, 400,000 on anything to be quiet so i'm going to take my glasses off, what we talking about? the border is an unbelievable mess the fact, it's path could be, it's an epidemic. it's a real one on like you're punishing us here in the state, people are coming across, these are the ones in county, these are not the thousands upon 10000 giving way, finding another way in or spending more time attacking portal trying to keep balance on the force and spending ridiculous attempts at abuse when they are doing their jobs instead of actually dealing with the fact that if you ever bothered to have a meeting with anyone on previous administration, you might have had a clue on how they could keep the kat audit. didn't do that, this administration was woke and they had all the answers at all they want to do is get the trump of ministration to get out. now they're getting phone calls saying what about that title 42? what about this and that again? you had the opportunity, the dinner bell is ringing and the american people are the victims and it's not just on the west coast, they are putting untested immigrants all over the country and now they are saying it might be 400,000? i think we are just dropping the number down. >> i think you're right, central american countries but these migrants are coming into the country. we know joe biden and democrat but 400,000 for one month even enough? >> we are not even a sovereign country anymore because we have no borders, we are not protecting our borders but 400,000, that's about the size of a city of tampa, third-largest city in tampa coming through our border. we are under siege right now, that's an invasion, under attack, 400,000 number not even including afghans taking into the united states which biden wants to take 95000 this year alone, nine times the population of jackson, wyoming. what is the impact of august? a lot of americans are asking themselves the financial impact, people taking from this, more than they will be given for wages of blue-collar workers as well, national security aspect of unvented afghans into the united states of migrant ditching ids and passwords, we don't know who they are and they are coming in to the united states as well, there's a whole host of issues and national identity with increasing percentage of people coming in to the u.s. who don't share our values or consider themselves american. there are a lot of issues we are facing, 400,000 the city of tampa, think about that. >> lisa, when my mother-in-law came to america, she came from saint the fbi came to her home and interviewed her. the fbi did that, today there's nobody so one of the concerns we must have in the middle of the pandemic, people are coming across the border, not vaccinated in many not tested. where is fauci who doesn't say anything about their american people who want all of us vaccinated, kids to employees, nothing about the southern border. >> somehow doctor fauci and everyone else is lying when it comes to the southern border especially kamala harris completely backing away from the whole situation but "the issue is", what exactly are we talking about? as a humanitarian crisis, a problem with crime, we got an issue law enforcement agents are completely overwhelmed, let's think about the most recent weeks with patient coming across. 30,000 have come across and another 85000 in panama and on their way up here. you mentioned at the top, open borders. we didn't live in a society with open borders, we have rules and regulation, ways and methods by which you could come into the country and i'm sitting here as a person, a child of an immigrant, i wouldn't be here if they came here the right way. the process want to open borders and essentially make it wallace and when it comes to all of the issues i mentioned, they turn a blind eye to it and they push their agenda forward. >> how do we resolve these issues? federal government is not going to do it. state governors at this house going to use their resources at our border? to you, tyrus. >> what? i couldn't hear you for a second. >> i was asking about us having for, are they going to enforce the border when the federal government will not? >> they will have to, there's no choice. you're going to see other governors from other state going and help and that will be the sadness we have to rely on other state, will probably have to see some sort of national guard because you are right, it is an invasion, they are just outnumbered and for us, we are not outclassed but it's a numbers game and we need politicians to do their thing. >> one 100% -- also, elections matter. >> making sense. [laughter] >> up next, covid craziness. the first two declared to get the shot. big names and players are saying no way to covid shot. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ welcome back to the big saturday show, mandate media sweeping through california and students are the latest target. >> we are announcing today a statewide requirement for in person for all of our children to add to a well-established list currently including ten vaccinations and well-established rules and regulations that have been advanced by the legislature for decades for the vaccination for covid-19. >> california students are not only falling victim to shaky science but a blatant double standard as well. >> this is my press release, pfizer comes out and says we think the vaccine should be approved for ages five to 11 but we haven't seen any data on that. teachers by the way have an opt out clause in california where they get tested instead of the vaccine but he's not even talking about that for children so here we go again, bullying kids on a different standard than teachers have. >> tyrus, you were a teacher, we are talking about five to 18 years old, one 100% chance of survival against covid but teachers and staff, they don't have to get the vaccine, why is that? >> it's called recall election revenge, the student union strikes back. they are attacking the parent, there's not enough data for me, and i am vaccinated. that's my choice because not enough information to get vaccinated so if i was in california, i grew up there but my kids were there, they would not be in school. the ridiculousness of this, let's just for arguments psaki say that teachers are the smartest people in this and they are saying we are not going to get mandated for vaccination because it might be dangerous or against our beliefs or we don't want to do it but do it on the kids, we are good with that so what kind of message is that? the attack on the american parent asking questions, they are called domestic terrorists now if they want to use the patriot act on parents in this latest smack in the face at parents think will make a decision about your kids but teachers will do what they want to, so my former californians, i'm a former californian there's never a better time to homeschool never a better time. >> they are making the case for school twice, homeschooling and taking kids out of public education system. nba players have come out and it makes a lot of sense when a lot of people don't seem to me, look at some of the things said by the nba players. >> we are dealing with something that to me feels like it's turning to a political war. we live in a land of the free, you are not giving anyone freedom because you are making, producing something essentially. >> it is my belief vaccine status of every person should be their own choice, completely up to them without bullying or pressured or being forced into doing so. >> don't need to pressure anybody about what they put into their body. >> i think about these comments questioning, is this really freedom? i think about this a lot. are we still a free country? >> god bless people with a platform to promote freedom because oftentimes what happens is government says who want to take your freedom away to keep you safe, concerned when they do that but these are men of power and influence and a lot of money. what concerns me is you have teachers unions to use their power and government to make sure they opt out and can take a test but the kids don't have a teachers union, they don't have political influence to push back, they don't make campaign contributions so they sit on the sidelines and get stuck with it but here's the problem, if i work for a company with 100 people or more and required to get the vaccine, i can quit and go somewhere else but this requirement in california, every single child, public or private school has to get vaccinated, you can't opt out so we are making every kid in california get the vaccine but they are the least risk out of anybody so the most stringent requirements on vaccination but the least risk. this is insanity in california. >> we seen studies recently that show people vaccinated can carry viral loads for those who have chosen not to get vaccinated so why aren't they losing their jobs? >> i think it comes back to hypocrisy talking about gavin won't wear the mask at the french laundrie, we all remember that. he's said over and over we are going to follow the signs he refuses to do it. he sang he wants kids five to 11 to get the vaccine but it hasn't been approved for emergency use by the fda yet, look at the data, they haven't done this study, pears are advocates for these children, some parents don't want to get the shot because they don't have the confidence. we have to work together to get the data to instill confidence in people that is the right choice to get children vaccinated but bottom line, we don't have the answer got so step back and take some time, we created vaccines for adults and we did the work and how the data, the teachers are the ones to get the vaccines rather than the kids right now. >> we have data, the flu poses bigger risk but i don't think they're being forced get the flu vaccine but a lot of hypocrisy and things that don't make sense, still ahead, support drops for joe biden, it's vital in the next presidential election and going public with views about writing and a lot of backlash but this is next. ♪♪ ♪♪ welcome back to the big saturday show. independent quickly losing faith in our present. president's ability to run the country, latest polls showing biden's approval rating rapidly dropping, the associated press poll showing a whopping 24-point drop from july until now. dropping at 11-point but jason's wife is getting back lash for an anti- fighting social media post in the country music defendant on instagram. i will never apologize for beliefs or love for my family and country promote the greatest country in the world and i want to keep it that way. i couldn't agree more, enough said but we've got to keep -- what it is or what it shall be, mr. sean, i'm going to go to you pretty former politician, how much did you pay the poll numbers, did you have group meetings? i imagine two or three points drop, not bad but how bad is it? twenty-four. >> more than a year out from election so the polls today are not that meaningful for what will happen a year from now, joe biden three years from now but what's happening here is the indication losing support of the american people once you lose the independence, it's hard to get that back and a lot of them said i don't like the mean guy in the white house, i want the nice old buckeye who told me he saw my socialist but everything he's doing is bernie sanders and the results have been cataclysmic with its covid or afghanistan or the inflation so they are losing and it's really hard to get that back. >> it sounds like bullying to me, bernie sanders might be bullying the president or at least that's what it looks like. jackie, when you see america -- less on america, the social media world is going after someone speaking their mind on a reasonable thing, i have issues with what's going on, how important is it to hold your ground or apologize? >> i think it's important to hold your ground because that's what it's about, freedom of speech so i would add to the end of that, and amen or something like that. i want to bring this up, pulling numbers and biden, that's what a focus on foxbusiness before the biden administration pre-joe biden, unemployment at a 50 here low, corporate tax cuts stimulating, prices that were low and generally in american public who said they felt better about their lives in the country was headed in the right direction. post pandemic now, the economic engine keeps going but inflation is skyhigh, a president who wants to impose new taxes on corporations and raise rates and he wants to raise rates on individuals in respect to federal taxes, we are talking those who make $4,150,000, 125,000 a person, he said he wasn't going to touch them. well, he is going to and that's part of the plan. i will have a huge impact on this where cost of living is hi, to $25000 isn't that much money so as we move forward and watch these numbers and watch what happens to the economy and pay more for gas and at the grocery store, a lot of people will be scratching their heads thinking maybe that wasn't so terrible. >> i'll take a 3:00 a.m. tweet to stay open anytime but sometimes you got to tell it like it is and lisa, you are the queen of telling it like it is. i think this is the fifth show was done together, you pull no punches. if somebody went after something you said you believe strongly about, there's no way you will allow cancel culture to force you to do the apology but at the same time, do you think it fair she should double down on this or ignore it? >> i like the approach of doubling down because i think we are at a time where there is such a loss of freedom and free speech that it's more important than ever to stand up for what they believe and fight back and tell the truth and be honest because the truth is increasingly rare so it's incredibly important to get out there but i want to mention the independence, they should know joe biden wasn't moderate and the only reason they didn't is because the media shielded him and allowed to stay in a basement and shoveled ice cream and probably going to sleep every night, they life to the public. look at the things joe biden did during the 2020 election, against fossil fuels and flip-flopped on his position, he picked aoc to be the head of his client passport. all of these things show someone who's not a moderate and progressive leads but how can any independent support this man in something sean said earlier, we are far away from the midterm election but incompetency of the past few months, does anyone think joe biden can turn the ship around before the midterm election? i don't think so. >> i know it's a long way off but here's the deal, families are getting hurt and by the time election comes from a lot of them won't be families anymore so they will remember and that's what happens when the economy tanks. the left want to change everything about our country including the american way. not on my watch. will show you some of the options when the big saturday show returned. ♪♪ welcome back to the big saturday show the left is not only trying to dictate our lives, many think the american flag is long overdue for a makeover. new york times featuring renditions from artists who designed reflecting what they believe to be the current state of affairs in our country. as you might imagine, designs not exactly well does he. you can see your screen, this is the most offensive topic of all the offensive topics. is this just a progression of second national anthem? now a second or new flag that america is subdivided. >> absolutely we've talked about open borders, these are what's coming forward from the progressive democrats and they want new symbols to represent what is there trying to build the. we've made mistakes in history but also know history is destined to repeat itself if we don't understand it or teach it or look at the flag and understand every threat in their has meaning and we have learned and grown and evolved as a country and do it together but we also remember who we are and what the country was based on founding fathers said. that's what brings us together and we are all americans, no matter where you came from. >> one 100%. lisa, i want to bring up design number one, your reaction, it says travel signals, a signal, a single purple bar reminds all of us of potential went red and blue come together as one, what say you about your new american flag? >> the new york times said that, they can go play and fly a kite, it's so stupid but there's a bigger problem and probably will get myself in trouble for saying this because an increasing percentage of democrat who hate this country and you look at things like critical race theory and for 1619 project, if you believe this nation was rooted in racism and easier to justify burning it to the ground if you look at democrat right now, they don't believe any think this nation was founded upon or believe in individual liberty and freedom or limited government, they don't even believe in the constitution anymore and we are not a united country, you cannot be united as a nation when you have increasing percentage of population looking at the american flag and seen a symbol of hate of racism, what common values do we have? what shared values do we have as a nation anymore? i think this loss of patriotism destroys the nation from within. >> i think you're right because we spent teaching in our schools, children to hate american history teaching negative things about our country, young people and americans want to change the flag, it's part of our own problem with allow that to infiltrate, design number three. >> we don't have to design nothing. raise my children under your moral values, change the wallpaper without a fight, you're not changing a flag in this country. when you change flags, conquer the country and put your new flag up and that's not happening. this is not democrat, this is not republican, these are -- they don't belong to anything. you got to have a commitment and put to work, you've just got to be a little smarter but you're not going to change our flag. you might be able to do that somewhere in the weird part of the west coast but bring that down south, it's not happening. i want to make sure none of this was paid for by our taxes. i put my belt down and ready to fight. you will not ever trade, my ancestors and your ancestors and not present in families, not lying time facedown in the mud because i want to add their hurt feelings now. america's red, white and blue, enough said. >> dropped the mic there in a second but you said something interesting, you changed someone's flag when you conquer them, one group is conquered and their flight comes down and the congress flag goes up, does the left think they have conquered america and change their flight? >> they are not going to fight americans because we don't play that. top five in the world, usa, usa. but what they do is conveniently change the environment to fool us but we are to smart. >> i nominate tyrus to be the general, is very strong and vague so i feel he will scare them. >> let's get the american flag, it's beautiful. next, the big saturday show, flocks are coming up. ♪♪ ::: >> welcome back to the big saturday show. it is time now for our big saturday flops. our picks for the biggest fails of this week. sean, you are up first. >> i want to go back a little more than a week ago, president biden nominated to the occ, the organization that oversees the largest banks in america, a lady who was soviet union born, big fan of the soviet union, and what she wants to do with american banking is take it out of the private sector and move it into the federal reserve, so you won't go to your local bank to get a loan. you will have to go to the federal reserve bank to get a loan, so we're going to politicize all kinds of lending in america and change the way we do it because we all know the soviets did things so much better than we in the united states have done it, especially in regard to capital. >> crush the free market. lisa? >> that's terrifying. more mass confusion with joe biden. after getting the booster shot for the cameras, he is still walking around with a mask, despite being triple vaxed, and then the guy wonders why people don't trust him or his covid policies. perhaps it's that. tyrus, over to you. >> this is a tough week for me man. tom brady is returning to new england for the first time since becoming a buccaneer to play against the patriots. i'm a die-hard patriot fan. this is like mom and dad getting a divorce, dad moved to florida, met somebody, he's doing great. he's got a tan. he's coming back to see us. mom's bitter, and everyone's going to be [inaudible]. but other than him showing up, it is going to be a blowout because my patriots are really bad. it is not going to be -- but all the hype will be in the front. there's a no-win situation for me. i will cheer and boo at the same time. i don't know how that sounds. boo yay i guess. >> is he going to get booed? >> yeah, he has to. he's coming into new england. bostonians we don't cheer the other guy no matter how much we love him. >> i got to tell you, tyrus, i have been trying to boycott the nfl, even i'm going tune in for that game. >> see what i mean? everybody's showing up. by the first quarter, theyre going to be like oh boy. >> or be tyrus's half cheer half boo going on. people will be really confused. you had me at tom brady. i didn't hear anything else you said, tyrus. >> he's adorable. >> my flop for the week is a facebook executive telling congress that instagram doesn't hurt teens, but actually helps their mental health, despite leaked internal data showing that facebook photo sharing app was actually harmful to teens. listen here >> instagram helpful to teen girls who are suffering from these issues, find instagram help than not. >> it helps them. i'm actually an adult, and ki tell you that -- i can tell you that facebook and instagram have made me feel bad about myself. mark zuckerberg knows it hurts teenage girls so much to talk about. >> how does vanity and narcissism help anyone? easy fix, though, parents don't let your kids on social media. >> that does it for us. we will see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. >> jon: democrats divided on capitol hill. moderates and progressives at odds as multiple spending bills and the biden agenda hang in the balance. good evening, i'm jon scott. this is "the fox report". ♪ ♪ it's a stalemate in the house over president biden's economic plans. last night speaker pelosi forced to delay a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill as progressives hold out for a deal on the largest social spending plan, amid the division, president biden saying he remains convinced the party will reach an