♪ o'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming ♪ and the rockets red glare ♪ the bombs bursting in air ♪ gave proof through the night ♪ that our flag was still there ♪ o say does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ many o'er the land of the free ♪ and the home of the brave ♪ pete: beautiful rendition of our nation's anthem from alan jackson one of the best, right,. will: will that's one of my favorite versions we have yet played on "fox & friends weekend." something nostalgic about hearing it turned into a country song. i don't know any songs that aren't just a little bit better slow it down and turn it into country music. carley: can we talk about what we just witnessed? you only get that on "fox & friends,." pete: for sure. carley: beautiful national anthem. the flag, imams of patriotism around the country that's what this show is all about. honor to be with you this weekend. pete: great to have you. carley shimkus in for rachel. we do it every saturday and sunday the nation's anthem to kick off the show and we should. it is october 2nd. will: amazing. pete: will, you were floored by in this morning. will: you said october 1st. 1st or second. carley: kind of like nancy pelosi when she said it was thursday even though it was friday. will: having trouble getting things right. i'm well over the years on this show. yeas are starting to come out before 4:00 a.m. pete: those weren't before there before? will: those weren't there one year ago. i know what my future looks like. pete: right here. carley: it's a good look on guys. that's why it's not fair. i feel like a lot of men age better. women, you know, not so much. pete: you are do all right. carley: thank you. got bless you. pete: right, dave? with welcome, we have four hours for you this morning. and we start as will alluded to on capitol hill with nancy pelosi where she said monday there would be a vote on the bill and thursday there would be a vote on the bill yesterday, friday came and there was no vote on the bill because you have got chaos inside the democrat caucus. moderates saying we just want the infrastructure bill. we are not in for this massive 3.5 socialist bill: and then you have the socialist wing of the party which seems to be in the driver's seat right now effect tialy saying we won't vote on the infrastructure bill until we get the entirety of our socialist agenda at the same time. of course joe manchin and kirsten ma controls what happens on the senate. joe biden heads up to the hill last minute attempt to salvage this bill at the last minute. turns out, old joe wasn't able to do it. but, when he walked out of that caucus meeting there was some reporting of what happened in there he walked by a few reporters and this is what you heard. >> i'm telling you, we are going to get this done. [shouting questions] >> it doesn't matter when it doesn't matter whether it's in six minutes, six days, or six weeks. we're going to get it done. >> why has it been so challenging for the party, mr. president? [shouting questions] >> come on, man. unite the pearkts 50/50, i got it. carley: hope you had that on your bingo card. another thing that happened in this meeting a lot of people walked away thinking they were victorious. moderates were disappointed because he made it clear that the budget reconciliation and the infrastructure bill are linked but the one thing that he did say, will, is that progressives need to go down on the price. so not 3.5 maybe something closer to 2 trillion. that's 12 zeros. will: that is the number was somewhat a more news 1.8. 2.5. 3 trillion. we know it's big to your point. progressives are winning. they want to tie these two bills together and they have successfully done so. and joe biden dr. asking are you serious. cmon man is somethingit. are you serious unserious at all times. are you being unserious? i also found it fascinating he felt the need to turn and answer that question e was out the door. his entourage had blocked him from the press. why did that get your attention. why did you need to turn around why can't you unite the party? is the answer so obvious so split. progressive takeover of the party? there is only a few holdouts, you know them well at this point. a few democratic senators, joe manchin of west virginia and kyrsten sinema of arizona. the question then becomes who is more in touch not necessarily with you but america at large? bill maher has begun to ask that question on his show realtime. who is more in touch? could it possibly be that manchin and sinema know more where the mindset of the democratic base is right now? watch. >> two wings of the party there is the aoc, bernie wing. they want both bills. and they are going to hold the one hostage until they get them both. the other more moderate side they are very mad at kyrsten sinema and manchin. the two democrats holding them up. mad at them not progressive enough for getting it they only got elected because they are not progressive because they are moderates. here's my question. does spending more money make you a better person? or a bigger moderate? and maybe these two, sinema and manchin do they might have their thumb more on the pulse of the average democrat in the country? will: here's what is interesting about that question. i think it's illustrated in this bill and also illustrated by the way with this. with the influence of social media. it may be in fact that the average democrat out there isn't as progressive as the direction of the party make no mistake the party is being pulled in direction either on critical race theory, government spending, on the response to the pandemic. it's because of the influence of these very progressive not legislators but influencers. again either through social media or washington, d.c., the democratic party is veering far to the left. the question not only is are they leaving america behind or leaving the average democrat behind? pete: you are right. the darlings in media and darlings in social media don't actually reflect actual voters especially in places like arizona and west virginia. joe manchin came out this woke i have never been a liberal. i'm not a liberal. i represent the people of my state and will, you know, go to the mat for them on that. we mentioned the number of the bill. and i think a lot has been made about 3.5 trillion or not. either way, it is a socialist wish list of things that have very little to do with our economy or reviving it and a lot to do with carve outs for certain constituencies of that democrat base or what they think it is. here is a reminder. carley: look at that first one? pete: free community college for illegal immigrants. carley: naturally? pete: bring in 80 billion more for the irs for tax enforcement. 3 billion for tree equity that is very important. the oak trees feel like they have been too dominant for too long. 2 million for bias training? and 4 billion for distance learning. we could go on and on and on. that's why i think for people who don't agree with the trajectory of this bill 3.5 or 2.5. whatever it ends up being it is a desire to get the electorate hooked on government. cradle to grave. carley: absolutely. pete, you are so right. one of the things that was interesting this week joe manchin when he was talking about what would get him to sign on to the reconciliation bill, he was just talking about numbers. the number is -- it's a big deal because we are talking about a lot of money. it's just a portion of the issue. what's in that number? if we go down to 1.5 trillion. 2 trillion. 1.. is it going to be free community college for illegal immigrants? is it going to be tree equity at this time? is it going to be a child tax credit for everybody, even people who don't need it? and that's the reason this massive overhaul is so important to joe biden because he knows that this is going to be his legacy. because when -- when midterm elections roll around, you know they are going to lose the house. he was a very small window of time to do this. he wants his name in history as somebody who fundamentally changed the country into a progressive direction. pete: polling so poorly on other things. if you are a moderate or whatever that looks like in the democratic national committee democrat party today the further you get to the midterms, they don't want to take that vote. they don't want to be saddled with a bill that's unpopular as well. they are in a time crucible if-to-get their terrible bill passed. will: carley said are you fired up about this next story? you know i am. the next sound we are about to play for you i think is really -- look, i don't want to be hyperbolic this is the voice of tyranny. this is so divorced from any sense of rationality, data, science, and this is about our kids. and i firmly believe if we can't drawing the line in the sand at our children we have no alamo. so, here is governor gavin newsom of the state of california, introducing a statewide covid vaccine requirement for k through 12 students. watch. >> what you have seen across this country is that leaders assert the need and desire for the social and emotional benefits of in person instruction yet, they are not following the science. that's what we're announcing here today. a statewide requirement for in person instruction for all of our children to add to a well-established list that currently includes 10 vaccinations and well established rules and regulations that have been advanced by the legislature for decades to add to that list the vaccination for covid-19. will: i mean, look. i have a lot to say about this. carley: take it away. will: no, honestly, i give many, many minutes to this on the will cain podcast and you can hear all of my thoughts. the most important for you to know is this. that we have the data. we know how many children have suffered from covid-19. it's not science to suggest it should be added to the long list of mandates. we shouldn't be in the business of growing mandates. we should be in the business of reducing mandates in this country. we know fewer children have died from covid than the flu. your children do not have to have a flu vaccine to require them to be in person in school right now. so why would we apply it to covid? pete: yeah, this is emboldened governor who survived a recall. felt like covid was part of what saved him, that authoritarian instinct you are talking about doubling down on it here is the good news for parents in california. these are not yet approved by the fda. they can't actually give the jab to 8-year-olds yet because it's not approved. if you live in california. carley: you have until 2022. pete: state without the authoritarian instinct. will said, if we can't stand up for our kids, then we will fold on absolutely anything. there is no scientific reason whatsoever to be giving a vaccine to a child let alone the government mandating that you do so. so, they are talking about july of 2022 maybe when there could be authorization or not. that's a school year away. hopefully parents there put their kids first and the science first to, quote: gavin newsom. carley: think about to over a year ago when we first started hearing about the requirements that we're all going to be living under. and it made republicans really, really uncomfortable. pause you know it only starts with something that may be slightly reasonable. okay. we have to mask up. social distancing, and you know it's not going to end there. will: no. carley: a year and a half into this and now we are talking about forcing parents to put something in their child's body that they don't feel comfortable with. and, listen, i got the vaccine. i'm comfortable with it. but that was my choice. and for the governor -- the other thing is, i just cut myself off but the other thing i want to talk about is the fact that a lot of people say well, in order to go to school, children have to get vaccinated against other diseases. those vaccines have been tested and been out there for years. will: fundamentally different. carley: when we talk about mandates there are people like former fda commissionerrer scott gottlieb who says that it could reverse and actually do the opposite of what gavin newsom and democrats want. take a listen. >> can mandates help us achieve higher levels of vaccination and will that make us more impervious to these waves of infection in the answer is yes. but there is tradeoff. i think we need decide how much we are willing to push to get higher levels of vaccination. it's going to turn something that has been political this debate around vaccines to something subjectively political and going to be a tradeoff for that you are going to have people harden their positions around vaccination. vaccination is going to now become a political football and it's going to erode not just willingness to sthep covid vaccine but willness to accept other vaccines. pete: by the way new york state is not far behind. yesterday sonia sotomayor rejected an appeal by new york teachers to not have to be mandated to the covid vaccine. talk to a couple today to be fired. carley: in order to go into a restaurant in new york you have to have the vaccine as well. pete: across the boardman dates are here. will: imagine where we are today and compare it to where we were a year ago. we have been asking this question and only question to ask. if we do not stop and draw the line at our kids, the next question is what comes after this? a year ago we would have been appalled at the idea it's about our kids. okay, if it's about our kids today ask yourself where will would he be one year from now? what's next? pete: who are we willing to help in the process. healthcare workers heroes for a year because they worked without a vaccine and now out of a job because they don't have one and all these teachers in california they're all vaccinated they are fine. it seems to not matter. 15 minutes after the top of the hour. we have a few additional he had lines as well for you this morning. including this, brian laundrie's sister admits she saw her brother twice before he went missing. despite her public statements to the contrary. family's attorney says casey laundrie saw her brother on september 1st when he came by her house and september 6th during a family camping trip. the attorney says authorities are aware of the tates and the conflicting statements are just a misunderstanding. brian laundrie remains a person of interest after gabby petino's body was discovered in a wyoming park. he has been on the run since september 17th. and marine lieutenant colonel stu scheller jailed after speaking out against the afghanistan withdrawal is asking for honorable discharge. is he currently in pre-pre-trial confinement. he's in prison. but his parents fear it could get worse. >> they are tigging in and they would like to burn our son, lieutenant colonel scheller. we have been told to prepare that it could be a long freshman. pete: great spokesman on his behalf and rightfully so. dozens of lawmakers are demanding his release. a pre-trial hearing will happen early next week. and country star jason aldean says he will never apologize after defending his wife for sharing photos of their kids wearing anti-joe biden clothing. one reading anti-biden social club and another hyden for biden. i almost bought that shirt for my kids a while ago. the post caused uproar online dean defended the move on instagram saying this is the greatest country in the world and i want to keep it that way. and those are your headlines. carley: those kids with beautiful little babies. i don't know if you saw. i follow her on instagram. every girl my age does. she is a good follow. a lot of makeup tips a lot of hair tips. stuff that you guys are interested in. will: in the commercial break. but for now american cities crippled by a national crime wave and children are paying the price as liberal leaders fail to curb the 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talking about in new york and chicago and other cities is the rise in gang violence. we are talking about gang members killing other gang members. don't think that doesn't have an impact beyond the inner crime of the inner city. it has an impact on children. and you have a copy of the "new york post" right now. this right here is the shocking number of kids killed in new york city. pete: too young to die. will: 21. pete: 21 kids killed on the street of new york city. the "new york post" asking the obvious question where is mayor bill de blasio. where are all these progressive politicians saying their name, out there scheme screaming for the fact that these lives are lost too soon? it's not just new york, of course. carley, you know all about chicago. look at the numbers in chicago. we talk about it. these are kids under 18. so far this year. 261 shot. 41 children killed. and, you know, just compared to 2019, these numbers are double in new york city. and they are the same in chicago. carley: yeah. you have to wonder why when you hear democratic politicians say black lives matter, why was that such a big selling point. you had riots in the streets, protests in the streets because they were saying black lives matter. and, yet, nobody is talking about these 21 -- actually, can i. pete: all black lice. carley: can i read over the course of three days alone, six teenagers, this is in new york. six teenagers were murdered. a 16-year-old shot dead in broad daylight in brooklyn on tuesday. 17-year-old boy struck in the chest by a stray bullet tuesday night. 16-year-old boy shot in the chest killed in brooklyn, 14-year-old wound in the ankle. 16-year-old boy a bullet to the fleg harlem after a verbal dispute. two teens stabbed outside a high school in bronx on thursday. no one is shouting their names. no one is saying their names. will: no one. you are exactly right. you are exactly right to bring up black lives matter. i don't know if you pay attention to glen lowery a professor at brown university. he has talked about if you really care and talking to the activists and big voices that are always hitting the streets first and hitting the television first in the wake of a police-involved shooting. if you really cared, then you would care about this. because this -- these black lives dying. numbers that outpace anything that causes major uproars and start here. start making a difference here. carley: can i just say, you know, think back to what cori bush said when she was trying to defund the police while she was saying for $2,000 of her own private security. it really becomes real. the importance of police become real when the threat is on your doorstep. and senator dick durbin from illinois, he experienced something like that recently. take a listen. >> last saturday night my wife and i went out to eat downtown chicago. i heard a popping sound. i didn't know what it was. but the driver of the car said those are gunshots. it turned out to be the car next to us. and the driver was leaning out the window and shooting a gun in the air. he could have just as easily been shooting the gun at us. sadly that's what happens way too often. carley: yeah. he is right. it does happen way too often. what's going on in chicago is a massive problem. i have noticed it. my husband was there. chicago is a tale two of cities. right now what's happening is that the south side, the less safe side is becoming even more violent. creeping into the safer areas. if dick durbin wants to help these people. what he needs to do aoc as well. start talking about respecting law enforcement. two parent households. school choice but you will never hear that coming out of their mouths. will: here's a prediction you will hear something else. you will begin to hear about their solution is gun control. and not to tie this to the pandemic but it is directly tied to the pandemic this week the cdc, i think put a study in place and classified gun violence as a public health crisis. that's going to lead you directly in the direction. pete: cdc designated gun violence as a public health crisis. will: i'm pretty sure, pete. pete: i feel like i heard something. will: something on that front moved forward this week which tells you exactly how they are going to try to approach this problem. pete: centers for disease control. guns don't shoot diseases, do they? they shoot bullets. will: that's correct. pete: you are right. everything is a contortion to create exactly the kind of narrative that they want or the kind of solutions they demand. which is get the guns out as opposed to address family problems, education problems. carley: gang violence, black-on-black crime. pete: in these cases wrong person pulling the trigger. not someone in blue so it doesn't matter and ultimately their names are foregotten. carley: thank god for the post putting their names on the newspapers or else no one would see their faces. pete: that's true. will: are delaying infrastructure 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>> you have got the ridiculous, which is the list you just went through, will. but then you have the highly dangerous, which is the new entitlement program that get baked into this bill and that don't exist for a decade. they exist for decades that's the problem. even if this bill drops from 3.5 trillion to 2 trillion, let's say, congress can still get all of those programs into the bill and they can use budget gimmicks to make it look like the prices come down. the end result is we get government spending that sticks around way beyond 3.5 trillion into perpetuity. that's what's going to break the bank. that's what's going to send inflation into a higher trajectory. not just for months to come. but potentially years to come. will: yeah. now, jason, you said joe biden ran on the promise unite america and trillion dollars, $1.000000000000 infrastructure happening. it doesn't even unite the democratic party. to say your point he can't wrangle in bernie sanders. he can't even unite the democrat, jason. >> yeah, no. this is the problem. and nancy pelosi promised the more centrist group of democrats there. that they would have this -- this infrastructure vote on september 27th. and obviously she was not able to deliver this. i think eventually -- they shoot so high and say 3.5 trillion. and then they cut the number in half and say look how reasonable. ladies and gentlemen, no matter what that price tag is, they are going to grow government, grow regulations, increase taxes. inflation is going to be out of control. they are doing to this country with these two bills, what they have never been able to do before. and it is scary. because when trump and the republicans took over, they got rid of the regulations, and they cut taxes and revenue to the treasury went up. and so the fax increases are coming are pretty scary. will: i have to leave it here, brian, to your point though, we are already seeing inflation. we are seeing disincentive to work. now throw gasoline on that fire. brian brenberg, jason chaffetz, thanks so much for getting up with us this morning. >> you bet. will: they were hailed as heroes of the pandemic. but now healthcare workers are being thrown to the wayside as officials prioritize vaccine mandates over their service. two nurses who lost their jobs join us next. ♪ at's the spot. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ overwhelmed by the ups and downs of frequent mood swings of bipolar i? 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tell us about your situation. so in north carolina the hospital institutions late july all announced a mandate for the vaccine on the same day at the same time. and they gave us a date to comply by, which was september the 15th. i'm personally not taking the vaccine because i'm undergoing fertility treatment i'm not comfortable adding a untested unknown into my situation. so i knew i was going to be suspended they had not given us any more information than that. so on the 15th i worked my last day. on the 16th my access was removed i was told i would hear something from my manager and i never heard anything from hr or my manager. and then i received my cobra paperwork in the mail last monday. pete: carlton, you worked throughout the pandemic, i assume? >> i did. i did. pete: jacqueline, you unpaid leave. text you got from boss this is kathleen i saw your email you saw email after work hours. you are unpaid leave effective immediately, please do not report to work. did any of your managers not want to do this or is this ultimately just, you know, cold calculated you are out? >> hi, good morning, thank you for having me. a lot of employees in the company i was working for did get the vaccine but there were a good amount of employees who also did not for personal reasons, medical reasons and religious reasons. i did submit a religious exemption to our human resources department and did i have a few emails back and forth. my last email i sent on monday evening the 27th assuming my work duties for the rest of the week instead of replying with an email i received a text message that evening tell me not to come into work because i did not get the vaccine by the date that they required. pete: jacqueline, i presume you know as much as anybody else about this virus. you worked through it as well. all all you're asking for is a choice or even to be tested, right? >> yes. i was asking to have my religious exemption reviewed. i also asked for an appeal. it was not appealed. i was being tested weekly. i was wearing my ppe while in the office. so i don't understand why we could not continue that hr protocol. it changed. pete: we don't understand either. that's why we are doing this segment. the most stark reality of this is that the two of you were hailed as heroes and rightfully so for the last two years for what you did on the frontlines to fight this china virus and then today here with very little notice comes a mandate that says not good enough anymore. whether it's a religious exemption or fertility. your bosses and those institutions ultimately said we don't want your services anymore. we are grateful for what you did. and we hope there are blue skies in front of you. maybe somewhere where mandates aren't required. carlton and jacqueline, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. pete: appreciate it all right, will, over to you for your headlines. will: important interview right there. car chase with an felon who ran shootout in wisconsin. warning, video you are about to see is disturbing. >> let me see that right hand. 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[screams] will: awful. suspect shoots and critically juries an officer after crashing into another vehicle at one point he shoots at the wounded officer at point blank range. the young backup officers credited with saving her badly injured co-workers' life. the suspect was shot and killed by police later. and minnesota middle school overhauls its grading symptom fight systemic racism. sunrise park middle school announcing a new a through i grading scale. students are l. no longer receive f. 10 days to retake failed exams. and things like attitude or tardiness will no longer affect grades. the changes come after the school's superintendent says an equity audit showed disparities in grades among students of color. we have to start understanding what equity means. and my little pony, pete, pay attention. pete: i am. will: my little pony is going woke. netflix new movie my little pony teaches about tolerance, prejudice and faxism. the film anti-magic ponies that are likely to spread fear and untruths. and critics online pointing out one of the evil characters are. carley: oh no. will: looks very similar to former president trump. and those were r. your headlines. will this news jeopardize your status as a brony? >> i didn't know i had the status. carley: do you know what a brony. pete: a man in my little pony. then i'm a brony. will: dudes in my little pony. pete: until i know what brony is? pete: there is a sexual element involved. pete: i retract everything i said. carley: we are cutting that clip where pete was saying brony. will: i thought dudes in my little pony. carley: we are going to talk about this in the break. all right. up next, the florida man is now an internet sensation. you have seen the video. the army veteran who caught an alligator inside a trash can. he joins us coming up next. ♪ you make everything ♪ ♪ wild thing ♪ always go for 100. bring out the bold™ are your hr processes weighing down your employees? on to quarterly projections! expense report! if you're using multiple systems, re-entering data over and over time sheet! using email and spreadsheets to manage information and approvals, then your hr systems are a drag on productive time. with paycom, employees enter and manage their own hr data in a single, easy-to-use software. visit paycom dot com and schedule your demo today. do they know this door is locked will: cold blooded encounter. army veteran fights off. uses a trash can. carley: taking the internet by storm. the veteran says he stepped up because he has to protect his kids. he rolled the reptile down to the grassy hill where it was safely released. pete: that veteran, eugene bazzi joins us now. walk us through the dramatic moment. thanks for being here. all right. you are an afghanistan war vet. clearly a tough guy. do you have a background with alligators that we're not aware of here. will: that didn't look like the first time. >> only background i got is before youtube steve irwin and jack hanna i used to watch that you will a the time i used to watch that all the time as a kid. other than that, enough to experience. carley: give us the play by play you see the alligator and see the trash can. how did this all unfold. >> actually, everything that happened because my daughter came and alerted me she ride a bike. alligator in the grass across the street. i said okay i'm thinking a small one probably about this size about. it was like one in the street before. i love animals. i actually grabbed going crazy like a little mouse, i grabbed him and put him in the water and the rest is history but as far as that day my daughter came and got me. she told me dad there is an alligator. come get it first thing i thought was i can't see it so blended up on the grass. i walked up and i heard it hissing. bigger than me. i'm only 55'6". 5'7". i hesitated once stung lid stung him in the back of the head confused. carley: such good video. will: did you it all in your slides. will i was getting ready to shoot. i got a basketball hoop. my daughter was about to shoot a round. i was sitting on the crate to change my shoes and it happened in the spare of the moment. in florida you wear your flip-flops all day long anyway so hot. i'm used to wearing it i never notice until i got on that grass. got on the grass ran away i thought 20-foot was going to come out of his mouth. i didn't want to be in trash can spinning around. will: lid was a key moment to your point. he goes in. did you expect that? did you know the lid would maim him do that listen. if i ever make a documentary or special or netflix, anything that lid is going to go on my frame keep the trash can for the rest of my life. lafayette were you scared when when i watch this video i thought this is either the bravest or crazy jest guy i have ever seen in my life. only him. because we always talk about my daughter always saying something alligator come what are you going to do? i jump on his back and put him back. this day actually came. i had the play by play i got to that hill and i thought about it i was in my flip-flops oh, i got to balance it and bring it down. he in there going crazy. if you ever had a baby or 6 or 8-year-old kid. will: we have to leaf it here. pete: eugene bossie you are officially the man. >> i appreciate y'all support having me on the show. i'm a veteran. pete: thank you for your service. the new way to buy a car. 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if your arm is in my mouth. i didn't mean that. will: if i were in the water with an alligator i would be more afraid. a lot of angles. i feel like there is angles to avoid the alligator. pete: are you saying you would have done what he did on the driveway. will: i don't know. that's creative. as much as his bravery i'm giving him credit for creativity. to say your question you asked him how did you put this together? you are there in that moment you go you know what? get me the trash can. of all the tools you said i'm going to tame this alligator. carley: not a gun. kill. will: get me the trash can. will. pete: great mo. carley: scary part releasing the alligator free to chase you. pete: released it 100 yards away apparently in a pond. means it will be back round 2. carley: conservationist. pete: lock the door kids we are going to have play basketball in a half hour after animal control comes and takes the alligator. good stuff. thanks for being with us on the second hour of "fox & friends." we start with this. joe biden makes a trip to capitol hill friday as his spending agenda remains in peril. carley: despite the effort. speaker pelosi still failed to call a vote on his infrastructure bill. will: lucas tomlinson joins us live from washington as democrats remain divided over the president's plan. love cass, good morning. >> good morning, guys. for six days house speaker nancy pelosi promised democrats would pass the infrastructure bill this week. it didn't happen.. >> there will be a vote today. there will be a vote today. >> we don't know what the vote schedule is or isn't today. we leave that to speaker pelosi. there is plenty of hours of time left. >> i have canceled my flight for an hour and a half. i want to be home in my bed. my cat misses. >> me. >> y'all didn't believe me i kept saying we are not going to have a vote. i kept telling her we didn't have the votes and i knew she knew that. >> while pelosi promised house democrats the infrastructure bill would be on the floor, progressives threatened to sink it unless it was coupled with this massive $3.5 trillion social welfare spending bill joe biden told house democrats yesterday to compromise and drop that number down from 3.5 to 2 trillion. moderate new jersey democrat lashed out against what he called the far left faction and accused progressives of sabotaging the infrastructure bill. president biden remains optimistic. >> it doesn't matter when six minutes, six days or six weeks. we're going to get it done. >> president biden's entire domestic agenda on the line with the fate of these two massive bills. will, carley, pete? he can't help me in the midterms elections. biden key slide key voters moment blip or danger sign this is actually about the timing and about why it has to get done. here what happens it says inside the article. it says a large number of voters, women, young people, and those had are black latino have all soured on mr. biden's performance and the shifts could be temporary. best case for democrats this is nothing more than an unusual response to an unusually unfavorable news environment. mr. biden's weakness could also be interpreted as a continuation of electoral trends that surprise and disappointed democrats in november it raises a more alarming possibility for democrats that recent events have revealed a broader problem. they're losing support among voters that generally they take for granted. his approval ratings on almost every big issue are in the 30's. and that means people don't have to sign on to his jeant. democrats don't have to sign on to his agenda. carley: yeah. this is what blows my mind about president biden siding with progressives on this. because, after he left the meeting, progressives came out of the meeting and they were enthusiastic about what president biden had to say. moderates were disappointed because he linked these two things together. you can't get infrastructure without reconciliation. he wants both because this is his agenda. this is his future on the line. and if you look at his approval rating, with independents, it's at, what, 7%? it's dropped 24 points since january. you have republicans, they are never going to vote for him. democrats will. with you that -- those independents, those are the people that he should be talking to because that will decide the future of this country. and he isn't right now. is he siding with the progressives. pete: for sure, i hope for the sake of this country, of course these two bills. to your point, will, the longer it takes the more people are going to look at the poll numbers and distance themselves talking before the show. you made a great point. you said it's not as if joe biden is going to go campaign for him anyway. didn't campaign for himself. if he is not popular, you don't want him campaigning for you anyway. so this whole build back better agenda could quickly become something that they want to distance themselves from. and not vote for at all which is why six weeks would be probably a death nell for this thing. it sounds like looking at the can capitol hill calendar not back into session until october 18th. that's a long time. carley: there aren't going to be any major votes until october 18th. you are right. the middle of october at the earliest talking about the numbers. 3.5 trillion. joe manchin wanted 1.5. a number is just a part of the problem. brian brenberg and jason chaffetz they were on with you, will, correct? will: correct. carley: they really got issue. not about the number. how this bill fundamentally changes this country. take a listen. >> even if this bill drops from 3.5 trillion to 2 trillion let's say? congress can still get all of those programs into the bill and they can use budget gimmicks to make it look like the price has come down. the end result is we get government spending stick beyond way beyond 3.5 trillion. >> no matter what that price tag is, they are going to grow government, grow regulations. increase taxes. inflation is going to be out of control. they are doing to this country with these two bills what they have never been able to do before. and it is scary. pete: that's right, indeed. continue to cover these developments. we talk about agenda being in jeopardy. you read the quote from the "new york times." the unusually unfavorable news environment we are in. whether it's the border. whether it's crime. whether it's their handling of covid. carley: inflation. pete: whether it's inflation and certainly the debacle in afghanistan. serious head winds facing this white house and the two caucuses. democrat caucus in washington. one voice who stood up and demanded for accountability for this process in afghanistan. no generals. they testified for an entire week no. one took responsibility for anything. well, you know the name of the lieutenant colonel stu scheller who made that video saying hey, if anybody disagreed. they should have put the rank on the table. they should have said so. this is ultimately about accountability there he is right there. put the video out on august 27th. he knew he was not allowed per se to make public statements. he didn't feel he could stay silent any longer. has the marine corps and military thrown the book at? not the generals, not the folks who botched it. but instead a lieutenant colonel who spoke truth about the reality of accountability. well, he is now in the brig. because he continued to speak out and marine corps has put him on lockdown. his future is precarious. they don't know when the trial will be or how long he will be detained. his parents, kathy and stu scheller were both on prime time last night with brian kilmeade. they are speaking out on behalf of their son and his honorable service and why he is doing this here is a portion of what they said. >> they left yesterday and agreed that they are going to work all weekend on a possible positive separation, honorable discharge full v.a. benefits. we found out today they have kind of changed their disposition in the marine corps. they are digging in and they would like to burn our son, lieutenant colonel scheller. we have been told to prepare that it could be a long freshman. >> my son is an exemplary marine and he has been for 17 years. he spoke out. he knew he should not have. but he was torn between ending the war as poorly as it was. brian: horrible. >> versus keeping it to himself. carley: yeah. i thought the last line that his mom who, i mean, you can see in these interviews because they have come on fox news a lot. and the parents did an interview with louie gohmert who is really leading the charge on speaking out, trying to get him out of jail while he is in this pre-trial phase. and louie gohmert said that he went to go visit stuart scheller in jail and said is he doing well. the mom collapsed in a sigh of relief. they are so worried about their son. also, i think it was like 36 or 37 g.o.p. lawmakers they wrote a letter on this front and they say lieutenant colonel stuart scheller was willing to give up his well-deserved benefits in order to ensure that there was accountability for the failures in our withdrawal from afghanistan. that is the kind of leadership that the american people want, deserve and demand from their military leaders. who is really acting like the leader right now? is it general milley or the stuart scheller? that's the question we mace this morning. will: the fascinating price to pay going in knowingly to pay that price, to speak out when someone needs to speak up. i did not know. i did not serve in the military. and i did not know talking to pete here on set that you could actually have your freedom taken away from you speaking out within the military. i understand it's against the rules and i understand that can cost you your job. did i not understand it could actually cost you your freedom as well. pete: it can. because they they believe he will speak out between. pre-trial confinement. we will have eddie gallagher on the show later on. he was in arduous pre-trial confinement. they can decide to push the envelope. the military justice system. in this case you know there is pressure from the top. i have seen it from experience. there is pressure from the top to say make an example of this man. we will not have this anymore instead of self-reflection why has he resonated. raised almost $2 million for his fund people are looking for anyone to take responsibility. he did. how long will he be in the brig in we don't know. he knew he was giving a lot up. his parent said that. if you are not giving up a lot. then you can't expect a lot in return. and he has had 18 years. is he in confinement right now awaiting a pre-trial and sound like they're trying to throw the book at him. all he want is an honorable discharge. if anybody deserves an honorable discharge it's him. carley: yeah. will: we have talked about how things have changed in this country especially break neck speed. i think this last two years has been the most tumultuous in recent memory for how this country has changed. how far have we gone? how much are we really changed? enough that we are being rejected by france. france is saying america has gone too far. this is of the headline from foxnews.com. france rejects american woke culture that is racializing the country. inside a magazine in france called la speck tackle. the suicide of america in which it blames the deadly withdrawal from afghanistan on, quote, woke dictatorship and questions whether the american empire was collapsing. a lesson from france. carley: a lot to swallow. pete: i tried to read the article but it was in french. i wasn't able to read the whole article to prepare for it. there was almost -- feels like the empire we are exporting these days is the american woke empire. countries in europe saying woe, woe, we may be socialist and left-leaning what you are doing over there in america is insane. they point to the censorship of costumes at yale university as an example of like, so tyranny of wokeness. if folks in france are noticing it. carley: other countries are watching. our enemies are watching. when you look at what iran is doing right now. using propaganda videos of kamala harris talking about israel and also there was another video that they posted that iran shared on their airwaves about her talking about how border patrol agents were racist for whipping migrants which, of course is not true. our enemies are using democratic words against our country to say look at them. they there is so much infighting in their country. a lot of americans don't even like the country. pete: we don't have to say how bad america is. they will say it themselves and then we will amplify it. will: europe has always outpaced us politically on how far left they have gone. what they are say something we are outpacing them now culturally on how far left we are going. and by the way, make no mistake politic also follow culture. canary in the coal mine we will soon be further left politically than europe. by the guiding light of woke politics, woke culture. that's our future if we are not careful. turning to headlines starting with this a supply chain crisis. cargo ships waiting weeks off the coast of new york and l.a. to dock meantime trains in chicago are piling up. creating a 25-mile traffic jam. analysts blaming the pandemic for, quote: breaking the global supply chain putting it on the brink of collapse as consumer demand soars. meanwhile portland will not bring back most of the monuments removed or destroyed during the 2020 riots. a greater portland art group voted in favor of this. following the recommendation of local artists, art administrators and community stakeholders. of the statues include george washington, abraham lincoln, theodore roosevelt and more. the art group wants new public art that represents more diverse cultural identities. there you go. see what france has to say about that. one of new york's most exclusive restaurants may be hiding a meaty secret. 11 madison park three michelin stars decided to convert into a completely vegan restaurant back in june. however, a "new york times" review reveals the restaurant has a secret meat radio. >> everyone has to have one. will: we89y guest served pete tender lion. i love they put that in foe net particular and other meat dishes. in the prompter made it foe net particular because my own cultured self wouldn't be able to read. carley: can i say something. i don't like michelin star restaurants. i think restaurants that are regular are better. it's always small portions. pete: i thought michelins was stiers. i don't know what a michelin star. carley: i don't get it. will: somebody says five star restaurant does that imply michelin. carley: i'm go to talk to a restaurant owner next block we will dive into. i think 3 star is the best can you get for a michelin. i think. pete: how great is the meat room? 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how is that impacting your business and how much are more are you paying. >> our food costs is typically 25 to 30% of our sales. we are upwards of 38%, 39% in both states. supply chain is a national issue. not a state issue. which obviously throws you where your already touch business. easier in florida. so that's up going to our benefit. we appreciate that in florida versus new york where we operate on a very thin schedule in new york. not opening for lunch. dinners only. lunch only served on saturday and sundays in new york. florida, we're open seven days a week for lunch and dinner. carley: i know other restaurant owners who say that they are closing up their restaurants in new york and moving to states like florida because it's just so much better for business there. the national restaurant association did a survey. they found that nearly this number is unbelievable. 80% say they have seen a drop in sales over the past few weeks. restaurant owners were better off three months ago than they are now. why do you think that is? >> well, in new york -- nationally, i think the news out there the fear-mongering it's real. i had a conversation -- i'm in florida at our restaurant here. opening up a third location. getting that going. new york i got a phone call from manager last night. first cold night in new york. he said the phone rang off the hook. we lost about 30 reservations because people couldn't sit outside. so it's literally in realtime here last night 12 hours ago we had this conversation was a first time we ever had 30 cancellations because the weather is dropping. so there is definitely some fear going on, especially in the northeast when it comes to covid and the variant. carley: that makes a lot of sense. i think that when we got the vaccine a lot of the people thought things would go back to normal, unfortunately, as you saw in the survey, you're experiencing it in real life. things are not at that level yet. buddy foy jr. thanko much for joining us and for more visit buddy foy jr..com to hear more from him. thank you, buddy. appreciate it. carley: president biden fighting to salvage his agenda as his party creates a road block to passing his spending measures why congresswoman beth van tiny says in america is unsustainable. ♪ ♪ centrum multigummies aren't just great tasting... they're power-packed vitamins... that help unleash your energy. loaded with b vitamins... ...and other key essential nutrients... ...it's a tasty way to conquer your day. try centrum multi gummies. now with a new look. look, this isn't my first rodeo and let me tell you something, i wouldn't be here if i thought reverse mortgages took advantage of any american senior, or worse, that it was some way to take your home. it's just a loan designed for older homeowners, and, it's helped over a million americans. a reverse mortgage loan isn't some kind of trick to take your home. it's a loan, like any other. big difference is how you pay it back. find out how reverse mortgages really work with aag's free, no-obligation reverse mortgage guide. eliminate monthly mortgage payments, pay bills, medical costs, and more. call now and get your free info kit. other mortgages are paid each month, but with a reverse mortgage, you can pay whatever you can, when it works for you, or, you can wait, and pay it off in one lump sum when you leave your home. discover the option that's best for you. call today and find out more in aag's free, no-obligation reverse mortgage loan guide. access tax-free cash and stay in the home you love. you've probably been investing in your home for years... making monthly mortgage payments... doing the right thing... and it's become your family's heart and soul... well, that investment can give you tax-free cash just when you need it. learn how homeowners are strategically using a reverse mortgage loan to cover expenses, pay for healthcare, preserve your portfolio, and so much more. look, reverse mortgages aren't for everyone but i think i've been 'round long enough to know what's what. i'm proud to be part of aag, i trust 'em, i think you can too. trust aag for the best reverse mortgage solutions. call now so you can... retire better ♪ pete: capitol hill facing a stand standoff as democrats deadlock massive to the hill to attempt to unite his fractured caucus. here to react is house transportation and infrastructure committee member republican texas congresswoman beth van duyne, congresswoman, thank you so much. now you are new to capitol hill, however, did you expect to see this kind of, a, over arching what do you make of the dysfunction in the democratic caucus that needs every vote if they want to pass it? >> it's a great question. yeah, it is an interesting nine months since i got elected and got sworn in. we have seen just crisis after crisis, after crisis within this administration and trying to play catch up once the toothpaste left the tube it's gone and they keep trying to go back and replay it what i have seen this week says it all. progressive members of the democratic caucus completely in control. they have a 4 vote majority in the -- they have a 4 vote majority in the house and they are tied in the senate. you see, democrats acting as if they have this huge mandate to be able to go as far as left as they possibly want. they are trying to stick way too much down the throats of the american taxpayers and finally, some members of the democrat moderate caucus if that exists are actually starting to push back. what we have seen from the frozens it is all or nothing. they want everything. they are not willing to -- they are not willing to compromise. they are not willing to talk. it's either all or everything. and, unfortunately, what you are seeing is they are holding hostage programs that need to be passed. we weren't able to pass a transportation infrastructure bill because they are sitting there playing these kind of 3rd grade politics. and it's really frustrating, i think, for members of caucus, especially the freshmanmen and people. pete: congressman joe biden normalcy. even bernie sanders calling out process saying how is this the way to do business? you are talking about trillion-dollar bills behind closed doors with more hours to read billings no one would possibly read that have things like this in it like free community college for illegal immigrants. you know, electric cars. you have tree equity that's an important one. 3 billion for that by the way. 25 million for bias training. is there anything -- is there anything not gungsal about the way capitol hill operates? they said it would be normal. >> if this is normal, i would hay to see what they think is function. but, no, to your point about what is in the current bill imposed it is completely opening up our borders. it is recreating our country like no one has ever seen before. not only are we not enforcing our border security seeing in places like mccallen in del rio where we are having millions of people coming over. they are expecting 350,000 to 400,000 coming over in october alone. what you are seeing is them also offering them incentives. free community college, free school. access to healthcare. all for opening up our borders and that is in the bill. and, unfortunately, you know, when you have got a bill over 1,000 pages, you tell me how many americans or how many congress members for that matter have actually read it, studied and t. and know what they're voting on. pete: of course not the lobbyists and staffers that have been there forever. before you were in congress you were a mayor in irving, texas. you understand border issues. we know the biden administration is not doing anything about it but now the texas military is vowing to build temporary border fences in del rio and other places vowing to build as many a quarter mile to one half mile per day going forward. is this texas' problem to solve ultimately? >> no. it's the responsibility of the federal government, which is why we pay taxes. i mean, if you think about the most basic of services, the federal government should be providing, it's national security. they have completely failed on that. they have created this crisis. and unfortunately, for texas, they are having to pay for it. you look at all of their borders and where on these hundreds of thousands of people are coming in per month. and they are actually having to take the steps. they even had to start a go fund me page. now, i paid into it to help build a wall. but they are having to spend their taxpayer dollars in addition to what they are sending to the federal government. and, yeah, i mean, they are having to do this to be able to protect texas bees and by the way that is a major port coming through. once they enter the texas border. they are being sent to cities all across the country so we have got the problem at the border. infrastructure bill in washington but none of it includes, of course, any money for the border wall. congresswoman beth van diane thank you for your time this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you very much. pete: you got it 36 minutes after the top of the hour. california's covid crackdowns ramp up as the governor demands all kids get the covid vaccine in order to go back to school. dr. marc siegel reacts to the controversial order coming up. and we are only four weeks out from halloween weekend. what is your favorite candy? 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will: i'm okay. i'm going real with you. i'm fired up about this do i try to read as much as possible when it comes to this pandemic. and everything i have read every bit of data and science suggests there is very little risk to kids and cannot be rationale for mandating a medical procedure for children. vaccine approved for ages 5 to 11. but we haven't seen any data on that. and it's not approved forever ages 5 to 1. and teachers, by the way, have an opt out clause in california where they can get tested instead of the vaccine children. here we go again, bullying our kids and on a different teachers have. that's number one, will, number two. i talk to this week on the fda advisory committee and he is probably the top virologist in the country for children. i asked if he would give this to his 5 or 10-year-old? he says i don't know because i haven't seen the data. and i said you mean the fda hasn't brought in its advisory committee on this? he said i don't know if they will. i wrote a piece about this in the hill yesterday. guess what? yesterday afternoon the fda contacted me. they are bringing in advisory committee. i say if paul would give it to his 5-year-old i would give it to a 5-year-old. that's the criteria the advisory committee uses. they look over the data and they say, you know, will, should you give it to your 10-year-old? they are going to decide that. and i would go by what they say at least they are being brought in this time. will: in the limited amount of time we have left. i have to ask you about this. merck has a new drug out -- a shot at it. >> you got it right. will: you did? i'm impressed by myself. that drug, that drug apparently has a 50% reduction in hospitalizations when it comes to code. it's oral, i believe, pill that you take. but what is interesting is studies out of harvard, for example, if i mentioned the drug that shall not be mentioned ivermectin that drug has reduced hospitalizations by as much as 80%. and that drug by the way is generic and not as much money to be made as prescribing ivermectin why this is a break through with merck's drug? >> i like the way merck studied this drug i like 775 kids looked at late stage trials. death and hospitalization by 50%. i like the idea that if you do testing at home early exposed and early symptoms that you could give it really early and prevent even more disease from occurring. so to your point about other drugs, that is fair your point is fair these drugs should be tested and looked at. absolutely. will: it's a positive sign that merck might have therapeutic drug for feel take. but it's going to be under patent. it's going to be expensive and makes you question why other therapeutics have been investor bow continue. >> including plasma. when it's cheap it gets put to the side. wrong, absolutely wrong. will: that's exactly right. dr. marc siegel, always good to talk to you. >> thanks, will. will: buy dr. siegel's book "cody the politics of fear and the power of science." carley, it's in paperback. carley: i am not the book. that's the book. will: that's the book. carley: there i am. we have got to get to headlines and here they are. a car crash in california leads to a sheared hydrant launching gallons of water into the air. crews struggled to turn the water off. the crash caused a power outage in the area and a major traffic jam. can you see cars bumper to bumper for miles. it's unclear if anyone was hurt in that crash. well, tis the season costumes and candy. every state halloween treat just in time for spooky season. the number one candy let everybody make their bets. think about it the answer is kit kats and twix bars. the data showing my home state of new jersey ranking sour patch kids number one. adam klotz's state of illinois went for peanut m&ms. do we like those choices? pete: m&ms really sorrow. will: i have a ranking. pete: of course. will: non-chocolate candies. sour patch: are kit kat. this here would be number one. carley: that's a popular choice. will: reese's peanut butter cup would be number one over twix. pete: i'm also a big rolo fan. little old school. rolos not making a big comeback right now. swedish fish terrible. why would you ever have a swedish fish if you could have a gummy bear. will: have you had. pete: yes. like cardboard. carley: adam is out doing the weather. adam, what's your favorite candy? adam: out of the ones you have in front of you have i grabbed these i like sour patch. i like scightses, i like star busts the berry and creams the berries and cream. adam: dive into this forecast if i can. it feels cool and crisp out here. refreshing like berries and cream flavored star busts. otherwise across the country warmer piling up in the middle 68 degrees in chicago. 67 in minneapolis. going to be another warm day for some of the central plains. we are also tracking heavy rain across the mississippi valley, the tennessee river valley. there's going to be areas where you have a 6 to 8 inches. that's going to be the big weather story out there for now. tossing it back in to you. will: we are eating candy. can did you go longer? adam: can i go longer. there is a hurricane over there if you want to bring it back. will: no. appreciate it though. will: inside the sour patch red would be one. blue would be 2. yellow and green much lower. pete: i think we are on opposites today. i'm a yellow first maybe not green. will: really? pete: i really like yellow. what's up with colorado. colorado says black licorice. you get it right, colorado. that seems not right though. some of those big heads. a community comes together to hear a -- help a patriot veteran after cherished american flags were stolen. that hero shares his love for our country next. there's software. and then there's industrial grade software, forged from decades of industrial experience and insights. meet honeywell forge. analytical software that connects assets and people to deliver a cybersecure record of your entire operation. so that everyone, in your boardroom and beyond, speaks the same language. honeywell forge. industrial grade software. carl lost his gig as a hand model during a bizarre hitchhiking incident. 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pete: it is. carley: miami is one of my favorite cities in the country. pete: good city. we were down there for the super bowl a couple years ago. great time got to catch a pass from brett favre. carley: were you nervous if he threw the ball and you didn't catch it. pete: very nervous. carley: you caught it. pete: i did a couple of times. felt good about that. will: super bowl in tampa at that time we worked for different networks. you worked here and i worked at espn, we got together and had a few conversations walking over catching a press from brett favre might have been notice it did not show. i will give you this credit while you lose a few competitions from fox square your athletics seem pretty clear. you reached up and snagged that ball from brett favre. pete: appreciate that. will: he launched it. pete: no that was on the set with bill hemmer. will: one he launched over a set. pete: i don't want to get into it but in the middle of a live shot. i had a football and i turned around unprompted and whipped it to kilmeade which was about a good 25 yards and elevated and it was a rocket. straight to kilmeade. he got up on the couch and he nabbed it. didn't get it on tape. system how live television. 9,000 cameras there. ted you were on camera. you missed it. yeah, did you miss it. carley: he nodded the camera? that means he did miss it. beginning of 2020. didn't know. it was happening but didn't know it. pete: that's right. carley: got to get this because we are talking about pete catching the ball. a lot of people say fumbled the ball this week when it comes to spending. you have progressives, they were blocking infrastructure. moderates were blocking the reconciliation package. the big news that came out yesterday, nothing has been passed. but president biden did go to capitol hill -- up to capitol hill to talk to the caucus. he wants to get democrats all on the same page. and after the meeting, it was revealed that his position is that both of these two bills need to pass. he wants the-what people are calling as bipartisan infrastructure bill to pass. 1.2 trillion. and he also want the reconciliation bill which is much more expensive. caveat asking for progressives to come down on that number. it's not going to be 3.5 trillion. it's going to be something smaller than that. the question is when. when are these votes going to be cast. here is president biden on that. >> i'm telling you we are going to get this done. [shouting questions] >> it doesn't matter when. it doesn't matter whether it's in six minutes, six days, or six weeks. we're going to get it done. [shouting questions. [. >> why has it been so challenging to unite the party, mr. president? why isn't the party united? >> >> c'mon, man. unite the party, 50/50, i got it. carley: that clearly rankelled him unite the party because is he saying 50/50 i guess in the senate? is that what he means 5050? ultimate rip cord to any conversation. c'mon, man, i'm out. you pointed this out this morning, pete. not only reluctance to take questions from the media, from the press. from adversaries showing reluctance to take questions from those supposedly on his side. this is from information about the caucus. harangue them into a deal ultimately didn't get one but got some maybe concessions out of it here is what politico reporter tweeted, inside the caucus at the end of his remarks, biden offered to take questions from members. meaning fellow democrats. but his staff jumped in and he didn't take any questions. so nancy pelosi promised a vote on monday. then on thursday, then on friday. then the leader of the free world heads to capitol hill to attempt to unite his caucus and in doing so prepared to do anything possible except answer any questions from his own caucus? like, hey, mr. president, maybe we could move here, no, are no. no questions. carley: preplanned speech. i'm sure a lot of democrats have questions. and nancy pelosi said i thought this was interesting. she said that this was a first time that president biden has met with democrats on that level. pete: are democrat house caucus that joe biden, a former senator is obsessed with and focuses almost exclusively on the senate and the senate process and often leaves the house behind. there is a reason he has done that because of the senate is 50/50. you got to get manchin and sinema. until you get something out of the senate. that's what the progressives in the house are demanding. we want a senate vote that comports with our demands, then we will vote for infrastructure and this socialist spending bill. so it's all tied together. and everyone thought, you know, there you have the master legislator self-described there on the left. and joe biden had been in the senate for 100 years. so between the two of them. the hope is they can get it done and the hope they haven't. the left wing is leading this whole effort and maybe the numbers come down but, will, i. carley: you think that's going to happen? i think they are going to get it done. pete: let's hope not the amount of taxes and spending. my goodness, forget the number. it's all about the transformation of the country. getting people hooked on dependency programs cradle to grave. let's give away college education to illegals. carley: but the border is closed and we are not begging for them to come over by giving them free college. will: $3.5 trillion right now. wrangle conference and one party. see if they cannot only unite this country europe night those within the democratic party for some of the insanity you see on the screen right now. even if it's reduced to, what, 1.5, $2 trillion. mass tore legislators can't seem to get it done yet. pete: tax increases coming. they said paid for 3.5. now they are going to say we are making money off of it still raise your capital gains and income. inflation is going to go up which is a tax for everybody. that's the scary part of it, too. will: meanwhile mandates, covid-19 mandates taken over the country. we told you earlier california soon will implement a covid-19 vaccine mandate for children k through 12. of course in new york state, they have already implemented one for healthcare workers. and that has led not just here but in many places across this country as hospital systems and others implement these mandates. something come all too familiar in this country labor shortages. this time when it comes to healthcare providers. those we celebrated a year ago as frontline workers in the pandemic are today's villain today's science deniers. pete you spoke to carlton dehart a nurse in north carolina and jacqueline in new york here is what they had to say about their job status. >> i'm personally not taking the vaccine because i'm undergoing fertility treatment. did i not feel comfortable adding a not-long-tested-unknown into my situation. so, i new i was going to be suspended they had not given us any more information than that. >> i did submit exemption to human resources department and did i have a few emails back and forth assuming work dutiesing week text message that evening telling me not to come into work because i did not get the vaccine. will: we all sat here and really marveled at the idea that she is undergoing fertility treatments and she has to take this vaccine in order to stay employed. pete: you think they haven't taken the time to look at the vaccine and consider their own personal health choices or religious reasons for it? yet, one fired over text. the other said your service is -- we don't need them anymore even though you have been here for years. will, you laid out the critical point. they were the heroes. therapeutic ones. there was no vaccine. people were flooding hospitals. it was unknown virus. will: by the way the odds that they have natural immunity extremely high no need for the vaccine. carley: yeah. senator rand paul, he has really been on the forefront of questioning dr. fauci and talking about how really hysterical some people have gotten over covid-19. and he was on with laura ingraham last night. take a listen to his perspective. >> there are some people unvaccinated haven't had the disease i do recommend that they voluntarily get the vaccine. but the thing is, think of all the doctors, think of all the lawyers, the orderlies in the hospital who work for a year and a half to save lives without vaccine at all and got covid, they survived they now have immunity the hospitals are saying you worthless, you we are getting rid of you unless you submit to a vaccine. but it doesn't go with the science. the science actually shows greater immunity if you have had the disease than if you have just simply been vaccinated. carley: i think it's so sad that a lot of people on the left and in the media they treat people who are hesitant to get vaccinated like they are crazy. like the flat earth thing that came out. when, really, a lot of people said i already had covid. i know i have the antibodies. i know i'm protected. why would i put something into my body that's going to protect me when i'm already covered? that seems like such a reasonable argument. pete: question to you, will. why not allow people to test for antibodies as their al turner-to-a vaccine? will: that's logical. although i will say antibodies wane over time. people think natural immunity wanes over time. what you want to establish is what's called and i'm not laying myself as an expert just somebody who cass studied this to see what's going on. t cell and b cell. body wants' memory to introduce antibodies when it encounters something dangerous. antibodies themselves are the short-term answer. t cell and b cell are the long term. pete: can you test for t cell. will: we cannot. if you can it's very expensive to test for t cell or b cell immunity. carley, this is fascinating. this sort of haranguing people and yell at people over their choices, listen, i find this fascinating. nba players, the nba has been the most popular fashionable network among those who like popular, fashionable opinions. what i mean by that driven bri by twitter, social media, whatever it may be. will: most woke? will: what i think is more interesting is you know this fashionable lane of thought encountered never encounter any resistance. nba itself has largely gone down that lane. i'm surprised now to see nba players to go against that grain, swimming up stream. i'm talking about lebron james. i'm talking about kyrie erving and jonathan isaac and draymond green. i didn't think we would see from nba players standing up for critical thinking and individuality and standing against popular thought. you talk about haranguing green warriors made a fascinating point about this push for the vaccine. i don't know how long this clip is. i hope it gets to this point is he going to say which is something is off. just by measure of how hard it's been pushed. watch. >> you have to honor peoples feelings and their own personal belief. i think that's been lost. when it comes to vaccinated and unvaccinated. you say we live in the land of the free. well, you are not giving anyone freedom because you are making people do something. will: so it wasn't in that cup i thought he found so fascinating. pete: great point, still. will: he goes it's just being pushed so hard. so hard, which makes you go man, like that in and of itself raises questions. why would some unanimity with such force. that's what draymond green has to say. find the rest of that clip. it's pretty fascinating. carley: to answer his question, comes down to politics. why did joe biden during that afghanistan crisis automatically turn to talking about covid? because it's a winning issue for him. and i think a lot of democrats feel like they could take the moral high ground on this issue where we just played a couple hours :00 hour we were talking about how a gavin newsom out in california has mandated that all children will need to get vaccinated kindergarten so 5-year-olds through 12-year-olds when the fda approves the vaccine for their age group. i wonder how newsom would feel if somebody told him to do something to their children that he is uncomfortable with. pete: he already did that and put his kids in a different school. carley: protects his children. when he makes that speech he knows he is going to get applause from, will, the people how mentioned the folks who have in that typical nba applause lane that like the power grab. that are okay with the mask mandates. they don't care about individual freedom and liberty. all they see are masks, big government, and that is a winning issue for democrats. pete: yeah. draymond green has a teammate andrew wiggins may not be able to play half the games if he doesn't get vaccinated just like in new jersey here you have got kyrie irving same situation. you mentioned lebron james because he retweeted what draymond green said. maybe i should have a choice. steve: player for orlando magic eloquent defense why he has chosen not to take the vaccine. jonathan isaac will be on the will contain podcast this week for a long conversation. coming up, conflicting story. brian laundrie's sister says she did see her fugitive brother after he returned home without gabby petino. ainsley: marine officer locked up after speaking up against his leaders could be facing serious prison time. but he still hasn't been charge with a crime. we're going to dive in coming up next. ♪ i need you to hold on ♪ ♪ (man) eye contact. elbow pump. very nice, andrew. very nice. good job. next, apparently carvana doesn't have any "bogus" fees. bogus?! now we work hard for those fees. no hundred-dollar fuel fee? 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family attorney over cassie's situation where she said she didn't see the brother now she is saying she did. lawyers saying cassie saw her brother brian and again 6th. any conversation by cassie that does not reflect these dates is simply a difference of relating an answer to a question misinterpreted by cassie. a lot of people are looking at the family's behavior and saying something stunt add up here. >> yeah, i don't know. i think is just another excuse they caught caught in a lie and another lie from the dirty laundries. i hope she is tell the truth and working with law enforcement as she is saying she is. but with this discrepancy and the timeline her searing her brother earlier and seeing him later and coming forward, it's all -- it's not adding up to great stuff. again, one more lie from the dirty laundrie family. carley: you and your father devoted your lies to victim's rights and finding the bad guys. you have so much experience on this front. do you think brian laundrie is alive and, if so, are where do you think he is? >> i absolutely believe brian is alive at this point. i think is he too narcissist to commit suicide or take that way out. you know, it's possible he is still in florida. you know, a lot of the leads are pointing to either fort desoto or carlton park the note supposedly he left to his parents stating he was last at. i would not be surprised if he is out of the state of florida. in fact, if is he a criminal or a fugitive on the run with anywhere with all he would not be anywhere in the florida area at this point. and the fact that this investigation is still going on and we still haven't located him at this point he could be anywhere. carley: yeah. he has been missing now for two weeks. and police have a hard drive. they got a search warrant for a hard drive. and they also have a cell phone that we just learned that he purchased after he came back into florida after the cross-country road trip with gabby. police have that, too. so they clearly are trying to pull information off those devices. and they know more than we do right now. >> absolutely. they are inside this investigation. they have more information that they haven't released to the public. now, i think it's a great thing that law enforcement has released as much information that they have so far. because the public can be law enforcement's most important tool and most powerful tool. but if the public isn't informed, doesn't know what to look for, it's going to be tough for individuals out there that have that one piece of evidence that law enforcement is so desperately looking for. they might not even know that piece of evidence is important in the case. so, law enforcement revealing just the right enough information is really important to keep the public engaged and making sure the public is looking down the right path and going down the right rabbit holes. but they absolutely have more information and i'm hoping that will lead to his arrest really soon. carley: that's right. you bring up such a good point and the public has helped so much in this investigation already with tinns and people speaking out in order to find the body unfortunately of gabby petino. callahan walsh, thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you for having me. carley: straight ahead, america's border crisis having a nationwide impact. lawrence jones visited idaho and sees how drugs from the southern border finding their way to the pacific northwest. >> i can guarantee you there are cartel members members in this area we are going to. >> this goes all the way to california. lawrence: this road right here? >> yeah. lawrence: drugs come in this way? >> absolutely. ♪a kle repair® smooths the look of fine lines in 1-week, deep wrinkles in 4. so you can kiss wrinkles goodbye! neutrogena® there's software. and then there's industrial grade software, forged from decades of industrial experience and insights. meet honeywell forge. analytical software that 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border state. carley: that includes idaho which is located 2,000 miles away but is seeing a massive spike in fentanyl overdoses. officials say 96% of the drugs trafficked in the region are coming from mexico. pete: you could see you know he is here lawrence jones visited idaho where he spoke to officials and brad little about the growing officials. good morning. >> good morning, family. as you said in the intro, every state is a border state. when you think of idaho, you don't think about illegal immigration but do you think about the drugs that are using the same pathway that the cartel is using. i had the opportunity to talk to the governor and two sheriffs there. take a look. >> we're going out into this area and looks nice and calm. i can guarantee you there are carlgt members in this area we're going to. this goes all the way to california. lawrence: this road right here? >> yeah. lawrence: drugs come in this way? >> absolutely. absolutely. lawrence: there are cars going back, 18 wheelers. could drugs be in these vehicles? >> every -- could be in every one probable in half of them. our number one threat is that border. because everything -- lawrence: that's the gateway. >> everything bad coming across it end up in america. >> 96% of the law enforcement agencies concur that the fentanyl and the meth that are coming into idaho are sourced in mexico. how bad is it? >> it's bad. and it's getting worse because it's getting to be more and more abundant and it's getting to be cheaper. >> last year over 90,000 americans died from drug overdoses. and the two primarydrugs they oe fentanyl and methamphetamine. those drugs come from one place. and that's south of our border. >> just in the last year, we had several overdose deaths. we had a homicide directly tied to a drug deal that had gone bad. it was a fentanyl drug deal. it happened 100 yards from my front door. i had had the unfortunate task of having a conversations with family members who have lost children. who have lost fathers. who have lost mothers. the people that are manufacturing this fentanyl that are bringing this fentanyl across the border and that are selling it absolutely know that it kills people. >> over 40% of every pill is a lethal dose. >> one grain of fentanyl that would fit on the end of your pencil is enough to kill you. within the last three months i had two officers where we processed them into the jail working on the guy's wallet or his money and bag and they open up the bag and both men went to the ground instantaneous. just dropped like that. because those are airborne particles. we administered narcan immediately and one officer had to go on narcan iv drip to save his life. lawrence: that's the kind of stuff that's coming across the border? >> absolutely. every day. that's what our guys are dealing with out there on the streets every day. >> we are in undisclosed location right here. this is where the operations happen. narcotics. talk about how risky it is. it's already risky being a cop. >> yes. lawrence: taking on the cartel. >> thee guys high risk every minute of every day. >> the federal government always tends to get out of their lane. defending this country is the role -- designated role by the founders of this country to defend the country and to protect the borders. lawrence: are we losing that fight right now? >> oh, absolutely. no question about it. that's why i was one of 25 governors that sent a letter to the president saying this is crisis we have got to address this. lawrence: what does the president say? >> i think the letter just went out last week. so, we're waiting for a reply. >> i met mr. trump twice. i was in the white house twice, meeting with him on these issues. he brought us to the table. this administration, we have none of that. not only do we not get invited to the table, there is no table because, in their eyes, there is no problem. lawrence: everything that you guys are doing currently, unfortunately, is reactionary. >> all reactionary. lawrence: defensive? >> and it's a band-aid on the flowing artery. let's put a band-aid here the blood is still flowing. >> the drug problem ♪ something that we can arrest our way out of. we have to deal with the supply side and that is doing something about our borders. lawrence: are we losing the war right now? >> without a doubt. >> law enforcement is in the battle to the bitter end but america is losing the battle. we are losing this war at the border. we are losing this war in our neighborhoods. >> lawrence: yeah, guy, and that same sheriff said, you know, they can't arrest out of this problem because it's only reactive. taking people off the street that have drug addictions, think they are getting one thing and being sold another is only a reactive approach. until they get the big guns, by the way 9 big guns, the cartel they sued them. they have high powered attorneys and that sheriff has been sued like three times already. carley: by the carlgt. >> by the cartel, you would think the last place mechanic can cartel idaho. lawrence: he said as those 18 wheelers were passing by about 50% of those are stacked with drugs. there is nothing they could do about it. they would be challenged in court. they will keep the process out two years. he said he has done it over and over. back in the trump administration, he said they hadn't wouldn't war but they were going on the offense. now they are in a defensive posture. when you think about the border, people think about the kid and the families that are coming, but that same criminal enterprise is how you get the drugs through and the human trafficking. pete: incredible. carley: that's why everybody says it's not a border issue. it's a country issue. every state is a border state. you were in idaho and look what's going on with the drug situation. lawrence: exactly right. carley: thank you. lawrence: i appreciate it. pete: marine locked up in the brig after criticizing the afghanistan withdrawal on social media. >> even though he still remains in jail. they haven't really technically told him why. they are digging in and they would like to burn our son lieutenant colonel scheller. we have been told to prepare that it could be a long prison term. pete: retired navy seal eddie gallagher has experienced this firsthand and now he is backing the lieutenant colonel. he's next. ♪ - [narrator] it's a mixed up world. and the way we work looks a little different. but whether you embrace the new normal or just want to get back to the routines that feel right, x-chair continues to be at the forefront of change, which is why we've launched the all new x-chair with elemax. elemax combines gentle body temperature regulation with stress melting massage to increase your comfort working from home or at the office. feel more refreshed in seconds with dual fans that actively deliver a clean air flow or you can wrap your back in the soothing warmth of heat therapy and access four 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throw your rank on the table and say hey, it's a bad idea to evacuate bagram airfield a strategic air base before we evacuate anyone. did anyone do that? pete: lieutenant colonel stuart scheller silenced with jail time after speaking up about the disastrous afghanistan withdrawal. well, our next guest know what is this is like firsthand after he spent nine months in the brig while awaiting trial before finally after finally being released president trump intervened. joining us now retired navy seal eddie gallagher and co-founder of the pipe hitter foundation which is supporting lieutenant colonel scheller. eddie, great to see you as always. love having you on the show. thanks for what you are doing with the pipe hitter foundation. when you see the way the marine corps is treating lieutenant colonel scheller, you have got to see some similarities to what you faced and based on what you faced and what they're doing to him, why are they handling it this way? >> yeah. you are correct. as soon as lieutenant colonel scheller put out that video the pipe hitter foundation immediately knew what was coming next. the meter or the marine corps was going to come counsel on him hard and ruin his life for speaking truth. we got behind him immediately. we have been talking to him for the past few weeks until obviously this past monday when he was finally locked up in prison. but, you know, we all agreed to get behind this man because is he emblematic of exactly how all the veterans and active duty feel right now. this man had the moral courage to get up and say something and ask for accountability while in uniform. because he did that, the marine corps then threw a gag order on him immediately and pretty much took him out of his job, relieved him of command, threatened to start taking away his retirement and we weren't going to stand by and let that happen. so, you know, we got behind lieutenant colonel scheller and his family. we are raising money for his family. and for his legal fees and advocating for him as well. pete: eddie, he said what everybody was thinking but really only he has had the courage to actually put it all on the line. a lot of people look at this and say okay, he put out a video and he continued to speak so the brig? i mean, confinement? is this standard or is this retribution? >> this is retribution. see, what people don't know lieutenant colonel scheller did put out that video and admitted he knew what he was doing was wrong and he tried to go through the proper channels afterwards and they refused. he asked to resign, they refused his resignation. so they could punish him in front of the country. and make an example out of him. pete: by the way eddie we reached out for a statement here is part of it. >> lieutenant colonel scheller jr. is in pre-trial kind cohen finement pending preliminary hearing. the time date and location of the proceedings have not been determined. lieutenant colonel scheller will be afforded all due process. do you believe that? eddie? >> i don't believe he is getting due process right now so no that statement is false. he was supposed to have his hearing this past thursday. his lawyers and the marine legal team are working right now in negotiations lieutenant considerable scheller would still like to resign but resign honorably. he believes he has served honorably for 17 years and that a dishonorable discharge should not be in the cards for him. so we're just waiting on the marine corps to actually do the right thing, hopefully, you know, and just to put it out there lieutenant colonel scheller he is in good spirits. he knew this was a possibility. and basically his snament is he knows marines serving in worse places than where is he right now. he is willing to take this risk. pete: boy, quite a perspective. it's true but very few leave state side all the years he had in would put it all on the line the way he has. eddie, if people want to contribute to your effort his legal fund how can you do that? >> go on pipe hitter location.org. we have a porter set up for lieutenant colonel scheller and his family. we raised over 2 million in the past week for him. and that money is going to go to his family because his retirement is in jeopardy. as you know, pete, that's a lot of money. we are also advocating for him. when you go on the pipe hitter foundation.org also see all the other members we are representing as well. pete: eddie, you went through it yourself. instead of moving on you are looking back and looking forward to helping those who went through the same thing. eddie actual gear, god bless your time. >> god bless you, brother. pete: carley, over to you. carley: that's right. we got headlines here. begin with this. two people killed in a mid-air collision between a plane and helicopter in arizona. chandler officials say the plane was able to land safely but the helicopter crashed and caught fire killing both people on board. the plane's instructor and student were not hurt. officials are still investigating what caused the collision. as many as 5200 new york city teachers could be out of work by monday. this after the supreme court rejected a request from a group of teachers to block the city's covid vaccine mandate. justice sonia sotomayor issued the ruling without explanation. does not allow teachers to opt out of the jab for weekly testing. some say they feel betrayed by the high court's decision. seattle mariner's fans flooding baltimore charities donations after the orioles helped them tie for a wild card spot. mariner's reddit suggestioning make discussion for thanking orioles beating the red sox. red sox win and mariner's lost last night put seattle one game back with just two games left. those are your headlines with some charity work. sports. not a bad thing there. pete: interesting. see if it works out for them. will: check in with meteorologist adam klotz for a fox weather forecast. hey, adam. adam: good morning, guys. beautiful weather 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all there is a lot of nba players who have libertarian tendencies in the context of particularly their bodies. and as i imagine everyone out there could understand. in order to become an elite athlete, you have to be incredibly in tune with your body and it health. and so the idea that you are going to be forced to do anything to your body goes fundamentally against what most athletes have grown up doing. and, look, the reality is here, the nba is putting in place a policy that doesn't make any sense, will. there should be an exemption at minimum for anyone who has had covid and already recovered, which as many different players have already testified to, i think, quite eloquently. there isn't. and so you end up with this sort of divide which to me isn't a will he yet mat perspective to adopt. i applaud draymond and other nba players who have come out and just said hey, we need to have more control and choice and freedom over our own personal health decisions. will: jonathan isaac, bradley behl, andrew wiggins, draymond greene, kyrie irving and lebron james he tweeted the following to greene's comments i couldn't have said it any better. i will say this, clay, i will leave it to you. i'm surprised because, look, nba players have been celebrated by the same people in media and outside. who have been pushing vaccine mandates. and it's interesting to see so many nba players then push back against those same people who have in essence been are their allies on some of the other issues wait a minute, wait a minute. i'm not with you on this. it's a streak of independence and critical thought. i'm not going to lie. i'm a bit surprised by because they have been so universally celebrated for being in lock step up to this point. you know it is fascinating really what they're saying is people deserve the right to make their own choices with their own health decisions which isn't a radical proposition. it's not as if they are saying you have to do one thing or the other. but amazing how quickly the blue checkmark brigade members who applauded all of their statements otherwise run in the opposite direction from this one. and also what it does is blow up the idea that the only people who have not embracing the covid vaccine are redneck red state white trump voters when the reality is, if you look at the data, a lot of black and hispanic people are some of the leading advocates for allowing people to make their own personal choices as it comes to covid vaccines. >> i mentioned you are in tuscaloosa, alabama. you are watching old mig versus alabama for the big noon kickoff show today on fox sports and two weekends in a row by the way following alabama around. next week you are going to college station. tell me which games you are watching and what picks you are making today. >> man, i love, will, i absolutely love lane kiffen and the ole miss rebels plus 1 and a half in this one. lane has had two weeks to get ready, will. he scored a ton of ports last week in oxford. it's going to be a shootout. 14 and a half too many. also a big game on the road in athens with georgia hosting arkansas, both of those teams undefeated. i love georgia. you got cincinnati the bearcats on the road against notre dame. and in the big noon kickoff game by the way i like notre dame to beat cincinnati. kick off game michigan, wisconsin, a quiet but maybe confident wolverine team 4-0 on the season disappointing wisconsin team the barges are the f.a.a. rit. i love the under in that one. there are a lot of great college football games. i got my son with me here. one of them. he is ecstatic to go watch this game and again, will, i keep emphasizing nfl and college football fans packing in to stadiums living their best lives without masks, without worrying about vaccine mandates. they're leading us back to normalcy in this country. will: you and i are on opposite sides of he arkansas and georgia i think 18 and a half too many points. it should be a low scoring game i will take 18 and a half. i will take arkansas. by the way, catch clay on the big noon kickoff. >> i got arkansas. if i misspoke i have got arkansas. will: we are both on the same became. >> i like eancht too many points. will: too many points low scoring game. clay is on the big noon kickoff show. left of center in the will cain podcast this week. big long conversation clay and i on everything in life, quite honestly including one of those sons has with him in alabama how you raise sons check that out at fox news podcasts. you heard his bets, you heard mine. make your own fox bet super 6 stack the cash today. the more people who enter today's stack the cash football contest the bigger the jackpot gets. don't forget to invite your friends scan the qr code download the app. and play for free. clay, what's clicking on outkick? >> man, it's all these vaccine mandates and discussions by athletes. i mean, it is absolutely blowing up right now. and then, of course, will, i have got 13 of them on fire right now, 65% winners. i love the underdogs in the sec. with ole miss and with arkansas as we just talked about. encourage people to go check that outkick.com. get ready for saturday and sunday, wagering fun. i hope people enjoy the games. i know each going to be and a lot of our listeners and viewers will as well. will: i heard you went 6-0. i went 6-0. that's right. >> that is an impressive accomplishment. will: all right. i will check you out on the show a little bit later today. thanks, clay. >> appreciate it, will. will: after a year off the road christian rock band news boys back on tour sharing love of god and music catch a special performance right here on "fox & friends" ♪ we believe that he conquered death ♪ we believe in the refresh your recollection the resurrection and coming back again ♪ ♪ (angelic choir) ♪ and here's mine! overwhelmed by the ups and downs of frequent mood swings of bipolar i? ask about vraylar. some medicines only treat the lows or highs. vraylar 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lucas? >> reporter: good morning. house speaker nancy pelosi reiterated she would bring the $1 trillion infrastructure bill to the floor for a vote. it never happened. [inaudible conversations] >> we don't know what the vote schedule is or isn't today. we leave that to speaker pelosi. there's plenty of hours of time left. >> i've canceled my flight. i want to be home in my bed. my can cat misses me. >> you all didn't believe me, but i kept telling you we weren't going to have a vote. >> reporter: while pelosi had promised a vote on infrastructure, progressives threatened to sink it unless it was coupled with that $3.5 trillion social spending bill, the large arest in u.s. history. -- largest in u.s. history. joe biden told the democrats to compromise and drop the number down to $2 trillion. president biden remains optimistic. >> it doesn't matter when. it doesn't matter whether it's in 6 minutes, 6 days or 6 weeks. we're going to get it done. >> reporter: the senate meets today to fund the federal highway programs bill which ran out of gas, excuse me, ran out of cash, friday morning. and, by the way, i'll take the over on that that bama/ole miss game. that's my pick, will. will: i love your pick. don't think we let your slip of the tongue -- carley: yeah, cute, lucas. will: -- get by there. out of gas, out of cash. we see what you did there. thanks, lucas. lucas played that clip, 6 minutes, 6 days, 6 weeks. joe biden's not telling you the truth, it does matter how long it takes x here's why. clearly, they can't unify the democrat party. clearly, they can't bring everybody in that party into the same tent on the same line, on the same team fighting progressives on the reconciliation package, they won't vote for the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill unless they get everything they want in the reconciliation package. on the other hand, moderates want less in the reconciliation package. it's an entire mess, and the entire time the reason it matters is take a look at joe biden's poll numbers. this is how the public feels about joe biden on a range of issues. here's immigration, 33% approval rating. carley: wow. will: keep going, watch this. this is his handling of afghanistan, 38% approval rating. also sitting low, in the 30s. and then finally, this is joe biden on his handling of crime, 43% approval rating. why does that matter? why does that tie into the clock ticking? the longer this this takes, thee democrats realize he's going to hurt me. he's not going to be there for me when it's time to get elected. pete: that's right. he didn't campaign for himself, and if he's unpopular trying to hit the road, he's not going to do it. it's a big thing for joe biden to go to capitol hill. doesn't happen very often -- carley: this is his first time. pete: and it's a place he knows very well. you should be going, you know how nancy pelosi says i don't hold a vote unless i have the votes? usually prime prime presidents y know the outcome. he met with a bunch of democrats, refused to take questions because his staff the jumped in, then walked out and said one quick thing and ultimately left us with no timeline, no sense of where the bills are at all, and the longer he waits the more moderates have a reason to say why in the world would i saddle myself to this? by doing that, you're opening the door to $3.5, 5.5, 2.1, whatever, a socialist overtaking of our economy, hooking people on the dependency class from cradle to grave. he knows he's got a bad agenda, but all his poll numbers are worse, is so he's hoping this is a lifeboat, yet he can't keep it afloat. carley: the poll numbers that surprised me the most, only 33% of people survey approve of his handling on immigration, and that's an issue that people in the mainstream media told everybody else, oh, president trump is ad bad guy, he's evil for how he's handling the border issue. but if you look at this poll now, that doesn't reflect that narrative. 33 -- 63% of people agree more with the strong border states than what president biden has delivered the country. pete: it's hard to understand even that 33% number. i mean, you've got to be not watching, certainly not watching this network, but not ramping reality. or you just believe -- not watch watching reality. the blue check mark base, for sure, the elite class, but they're dragging the whole tent. if you talk about the democrat party as a tent, they're drag it way over here. we had bill maher earlier talking about maybe it's the sinemas and the manchins, democrats who are so-called moderates, who reflect more of the democrat base. but the whole tent's moved this way, and they're left on the outside trying to knock the sides over saying are we still welcome in here? will: my brain's trying to catch up, we had bill maher on the show? [laughter] i was trying to figure out -- pete: we welcome him anytime. carley: he was on. pete: we would love to have bill maher come on our show. [laughter] will: back to what's in this spending bill, what we know is government policy over the past two years, certainly over the past one year has created disincentives to work. add to that vaccine mandates, we've seen it create a labor shortage when it comes to hospital staffing many many places across this country, and you think about this big packaging adding fuel to the fire, fuel to the inflation fire, fuel to the labor shortage fire x. here's the fire, they're going to throw fuel on it. restaurants reeling from staffing and supply shortages. 71% are understaffed. 71% of restaurants don't have enough people to work to meet demand. 75% said they had to change their menu items due to supply change issues. supply chain issues. 84% have higher lay bo -- labor costs. pete: and never forget that it's democrats who wanted basically a permanent extension of unemployment. they wanted the pandemic to never end. by the way, a lot of the reason, worked out pretty well for them in 2020. mail-out ballots, no oversight, worked out pretty well. you still have a pandemic in 2022, maybe that's advantageous. but you go into any restaurant right now, that's what you see. how about staff shortages in hospitals because of mandates, nurses who were fired because they had legitimate, personal choice reasons for not taking the vaccine. government intervenes, this is what you get. you better order your christmas gifts now, because they're not going to be here if you don't. carley: yeah, it's true. a lot of stores are already saying because they don't have the -- and you know that's going to be a big story come november. yeah. there's a restaurant owner, buddy foy jr., and he had a really interesting perspective because he owns two different restaurants, one in the but state of new york, the other in the red state of florida. he says that the situation in those restaurants are very different. take a listen. >> our food cost is typically 25-30% of our sales, we're upwards of 38, 39% in both states. so the supply chain is a national issue, not a state issue. which, obviously, throws you where it's a hard topic in an already tough business. we operate on a very thin schedule in new york, closing one day a week, not opening for lunch, dinners only. lunch only served on saturdays and sundays in new york. florida we're open seven days a week for lunch and dinner. carley: yeah. so he says he's not interested in opening another restaurant in new york, and he wants to open another restaurant in florida and possibly another after that, so he's feeling the supply chain issues across the board. that's obviously a national thing, but he does talk about the difference in the running a business in florida where governor ron desantis has become very business-friendly and also the covid mandates are are very different than you see in new york. and he says that it's just been a nightmare up here. will: you know, jesse kelly is a friend of the network, friend of mine, he's talked about this increasingly, talked about the separation of this country. and i think he's been ahead of his time in talking about this. we are simply session regated, separating, we're separating based on our embrace of vaccine mandates, economic choices people are making their move voting with their feet. this country is not just dividing culturally, not just dividing in terms of our rhetoric, we're simply starting to divide geographically as well. people who want to live one way are choosing to move, and people that want to live another way are choosing to remain in places like california and new york. carley: except you hear the democrats want to get the tax breaks, so they move to red states, and they bring their politics with them. they want the republican lifestyle, but they're taking their bad policies with them. pete: it's a freedom divide, it really is. you have the people who cancel, and if you don't have the financial means or wherewithal to mean, then you're stuck with those policies whether or not you want them or not. will: a few additional headlines. crime devastating new york city. also another issue dividing america geographically. the new york post reports 21 is children have died from street violence in the city so far this year. its cover page reading, quote, too young to die. meanwhile, chicago's crime crisis hitting close to home for democratic senator dick durbin. the illinois lawmaker says he and his wife were driving down a popular street when someone in the car next to them started firing into the air. and no one was hurt. and this is a chicago's mayor is called upon to declare a state of emergency due to the city's violent crime. caught on camera, students vandalize a pro-life display at a christian college in california. the pepperdine university students, my alma mater, were seen ripping down crosses and putting them with pro-abortion messages. the pro-life exhibit was put up on tuesday, pepperdine has not commented on the incident. an army veteran fights off a hissing alligator using only a trash and military instincts. that veteran, eugene, joined us earlier to talk about his epic catch taking the internet by storm. >> there's an alligator, come get it. so i grabbed him with the trash can, i approached him, and long story short, once that lid stunned him in the back of the held, because he was confused. i seen it. [laughter] carley: testifies great. peter: i knew i had him. will: he rolled him down to a grass city hill where he was safe. carley: and one of you points out the footwear -- will: did it all in slides. pete: i didn't grow up with them called slides, we called them shower shoes. will: shower shoes is a broader category. it could encompass flip-flops, you know, anything rubber is a shower shoe. yeah. pete: the slide is that style particularly. my wife agrees with you, i just didn't grow up -- carley: we've got to ask joey jones. he's coming up live next. 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[laughter] i didn't get it on purpose. but the crux of this medal, the reason for this medal is essentially what you do after you're awarded the purple heart with the rest of your life, and long before i was on television, i was helping run nonprofits and trying to make life better for the other wounded veterans who aren't quite as outgoing and talkative as i am. so i'm just trying to put these talents god gave me to work and to help veterans, raise awareness and to bring it all the way back around. lieutenant colonel sheller's one of those people, you know? i hope he gets out of this with an honorable damager, and i hope that people like general -- discharge. and i hope that people like general berger understand we didn't need a letter from him telling us our service was worthwhile. we need it from ground commanders like lieutenant colonel sheller who went to combat with us and served alongside us. those are the men and women we want to hear from and each other. i don't mean to bring it full circle, but that's exactly what this is. it's all the same issue. we fought for 20 years, got hurt, a lot of us, it killed some of us, and those men and women need to know that it meant something, and i believe it did. so if i receive this genesis legacy award, it's because i'm till trying to take care of these men and women. pete: no doubt. that's the kind of guy you are. you've given so much for this country, but you use that experience to amplify the opportunity that so many others don't have and deserve. joey jones, you're the man. appreciate it. congratulations. >> thank you. pete: all right. up next, texas law enforcement is taking the border crisis into their own hands. we'll talk to a member of the state's military d. who helped build their own temporary border fence. 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this discrepancy in the timeline, it's not adding up to great stuff. >> yeah. >> reporter: now, this september 6th meet-up between brian and his sister cassie coincides with the camping trip the laundrie family took at the desoto park campground in st. petersburg, florida. documents reveal the laundries checked in on september 6th and left on september 8th, and that was about a week before the family reported brian laundrie missing. of course, the fbi has been trying to retrack his steps. of course, he is charged with bank fraud, and he is also considered a person of interest in the death of his girlfriend, gabby petito. carley: another twist in this case. charles, thank you for tracking it all. we'll keep following it. will, over to you. will: another migrant caravan trekking toward the u.s., and with no help from the federal government, texas is taking matters into its own hands. the state's military department building miles of temporary border fence in the del rio area with potential for expansion into parts of mexico. let's bring in the texas military department director of training and military operations, lieutenant colonel rodney kelly. lieutenant colonel, thank you for being here this morning. i'm a native texan, i'm familiar with the texas army national guard, talking with my friend and cohost pete hegseth here, tell me about the texas military department really quickly here. i want to understand its role in texas and how unique or not this might be in the united states for a texas military department to take matters into its own hands. >> hey, good morning, thank you. so texas military department is the piece that you talked to, the texas air and army national forward and some other resources that make up our state agency. so as far as what we're doing, under the direction of governor abbott in direct support of department of public safety, so we started initiating what we're calling operation lone star in march of this past year, sir. will: and operation lone star entails building, as we understand it, a fence to help specifically in del rio, not just in response to what we saw in the past, but what we might know is coming in the future when it comes to this crisis of illegal immigrants on the texas side of the border? >> absolutely. there's multiple parts to the mission, but as you talked specifically about the fencing, we started that in june of this year, and we worked bringing our military engineers out of the texas national guard and starting to work with our great partners in the department of public safety and department of emergency management and finding ways to construct what we're calling really some temporary border infrastructure to go ahead and get that started in del rio after a security summit that the governor hosted in may to discuss some of the issues and concerns by landowners there, sir. will: and what does texas anticipate is coming its way? if what will this fence help? >> so currently we've constructed about 3 miles of this fencing in the del rio area. as you seen on the news, there's been a lot of illegal crossing into that area, and so with the fence to help with that, we're trying to help our partners both state, locally and federally and safeguard texans and their private property where some of this has been crossing. will: crisis stepping up here. others are letting it down. lieutenant colonel, i want to circle back to where we started this interview. the texas military department is stepping up, what do you normally do without this type of crisis as the primary objective, what is it normal through there to serve? is. >> so the texas military department does a vast amount of things. we're deploying overseas for contingency operations with both the air and army national guard, we also respond to, you know, multiple disasters, hurricanes, flooding, fires and all the things that you see, you know, are the mission sents that we standard do. and i'll tell you even with going on, 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you have almost 100 million people who have survived covid, you don't hear those stories. even if you're 60-69, you still have an over 99% chance of survival, and all of this matters because freedom is on the line. if we're going to continue to be a constitutional republic, it's on the line. and all you have to do is look at previously free western democracies like trail what to see what is -- australia to see what is at stake. there are covid is internment camps. so all of this matters, and getting the truth out to the public is the most important. carley: sean, let's stay in california. those vaccine mandates go into effect only after the fda approves the shot for the child's age group. do you think that will ease parents' concerns at all over this? >> no, i don't. i think, you know, one, this is anti-science, carley. we don't have kids dying from covid across california or across america. i saw a stat that 41 kids in chicago have died from gunshot wounds, only 25 have died statewide in the state of illinois. and the whole country, "the new york post" reports that 214 kids have died from covid. and we're going to mandate vaccines op all kids across the country when this is not a risk to them? carley, all my kids had to covid, they're basically asymptomatic. this is affecting older, sicker people, not young kids. so to say that we're going to vaccinate kids to protect the vaccinated means that the vaccine doesn't work. what kind of crazy messaging is coming from this, from california, to tell us the vaccine doesn't work? carley: yeah. and everyone cares about children's health, but this has a lot to do, jackie, with government control. governor newsom just faced a recall effort. he survived it, but if you think that experience would have muted his political opinions, you thought wrong. >> yeah, absolutely. what i see here is the hypocrisy which has come from gavin newsom throughout this pandemic. right now he's mandating a vaccine for kids that didn't even get the emergency approval. the problem with the vaccine and the antivaxers right now is confidence and being able to follow the science as the democrats love to say that that you should but only when it suits their narrative. in this case he's saying the kids should get the vaccine as soon as they possibly can, and we don't necessarily know that the trials have been done to make sure that it's safe. take your time, go through the due diligence, make sure the fda's onboard, then you can try and sell it to parents. you don't do it this way. carley: yeah. i'm sure you're going to be continuing this discussion, all three of you plus tyrus, on "the big saturday show." lisa, what else can we expect? >> yeah. if anyone has plans at 5 p.m., cancel them. [laughter] a lot of really important conversations about all these big issues facing the country and also just a really fun crew. we're going to have a great time. cancel your plans at 5 and tune in. carley: i will be tuning in. we'll see you there. >> doing a great job, carley, thank you. carley: i appreciate it. see you at five. >> thank you, hi friend. carley: after a year off the road, news boys is back on tour sharing their love of god and music, and they're going to deliver a special performance just for you coming up next. ♪ ♪ br 25% of your mouth. listerine® cleans virtually 100%. helping to prevent gum disease and bad breath. never settle for 25%. always go for 100. bring out the bold™ you have the best pizza in town and the worst wait times. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire i'll shoot you an estimate as soon as i get back to the office. hey, i can help you do that right now. high thryv! thryv? yep. i'm the all-in-one management software built for small business. high thryv! help me with scheduling? sure thing. up top. high thryv! payments? high thryv! promotions? high thryv! email marketing? almost there, hold on. wait for it. high thryv! manage my customer list? can do. will do. high thryv! post on social media? hash-tag high thryv my friend! get a free demo at thryv.com. ♪ ♪ -- not dead, he's surely alive. ♪ he's living on the inside, roaring -- will: you know them from the mega hit song that inspired the franchise god's not dead. carley: now they're back on tour for their brand new album stand after a year away from their fans. pete: the members of the news boys join us now. gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. let's start, you know, with -- absolutely love having you. the last year, what's it been like? you make music, you hit the road. you couldn't do it. talk to us about that, michael. >> it was freaky and scary because, of course, the pandemic hit march of 2020, we were on the road doing shows, and we hear from the governor of ohio saying no more than 100 people can gather. we had a show that night, sold 5,000 tickets. [laughter] that was the beginning for us. we took time and made a brand new record. jeff had a baby -- >> i did. >> -- and we -- [inaudible] carley: congratulations. jeff, just because your name was mentioned, i'll go to you. so, you know, being a christian is, a part of christianity is spreading the word, so i'm sure that not being on tour, you know, a lot of musicians weren't on tour, but for you guys it's sort of a twofold thing. you couldn't spread the good word or do the music. >> yeah. we're a band that's been on the road full time for almost 30 years, and so there was good and bad. you know, you saw a lot offed bad things happening in the world over the last couple years, and what we share is the good news. so, right, it was frustrating. but at the same time, we've been out on the road for the last two weeks, and to see people's faces again has been so i awesome for us, see people smiling and reacting to the music and the gospel which is literally good news. so it's been really encouraging. [laughter] will: i'm going to, i want to get both jodi and duncan, what makes stand different? you're going to be the out playing the song, people can hear it live and in person, but what makes stand different as far as the music in. >> i think every record it's like -- [inaudible] we just had a year and a half, we kind of said if we don't come out with a killer record -- >> we're done. [laughter] >> we hit the studio hard, and that's what we had to do. way more time to get in the songs to polish them up, so i think stylistically it's probably one of the most diverse because i think, you know, fans are very -- way more sophisticated than they used to be. we've got some reggae, some pop, some rock a little bit of jackson five. will: guys, we're almost out of -- i've got to get to your song, we've got to get to your performance. jodi, tee it up, knock it out of the park, tell us and throw it to magnetic, would you? >> oh, man. well, this song is just a message of hope and fun and joy which is what we need to bring into the world. carley: let's hit it right now. will: newsboys with "magnetic." ♪ ♪ as soon as i open my eyes, it's the same voice coming inside. ♪ already so heavy, waiting for my soul. ♪ -- all the heart ache, all the hurting collided -- ♪ trying to steal my soul. ♪ some days i lose my way -- ♪ but if we die, i lose this life, you're pulling me back, magnetic. ♪ i lose my way, i can't escape -- ♪ you're pulling me back, pulling me back, magnetic. ♪ nag nettic -- magnetic. ♪ you're so patient, it's unconditional. ♪ even when i try to go my own way -- ♪ you bring me back around like a boomerang, just like a boomerang. ♪ -- i lose this life, you're pulling me back, pulling me back, magnetic. ♪ i push you away, but i can't escape because your love keeps pulling me back, pulling me back, magnet. ♪ magnetic. ♪ i'm out of reach -- [inaudible] ♪ keep pulling me, pulling me, oh, i can feel it, feel it, feel it. ♪ it's changing me, it's clear to see. ♪ everything that i used to be is history. ♪ i can feel it, feel it, feel it. ♪ your love keeps pulling me back, pulling me back, magnetic. ♪ i'm trying to push you away, but i can't escape. ♪ your love keeps pulling me back, pulling me back, magneticking. ♪ ♪ magnetic. ♪ your love keeps pulling me, your love keeps pulling me. ♪ your love keeps pulling me, magnetic. ♪ your love keeps pulling me, your love keeps pulling me ♪♪ [cheers and applause] stylish fg you'll love for years to come. like pergo wetprotect. and stainmaster. exclusively at lowe's. your life might change, but your flooring can last a lifetime. order now, get your flooring installed with help from lowe's. home to any budget. home to any possibility. go with simparica trio it's triple protection made simple! simparica trio is the first and only monthly chewable that covers heartworm disease, ticks and fleas, round and hookworms. dogs get triple protection in just one simparica trio! this drug class has been associated with neurologic adverse reactions, including seizures. use with caution in dogs with a history of these disorders. protect him with all your heart. simparica trio. ♪ >> what is your message to the moderates who are frustrated with the delay in the vote? >> everybody's frustrated. that's part of being in government. hey, look, one of the things i love about you guys, i watched you, biden, wow, he going to do this? biden's going to work like hell to make sure we get it passed. i think we'll get it passed. neil: the president leaving earlier this morning from the white house

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