theory, teaching kids to hate their country and to hate each other is not worth one red cent of taxpayer money. >> harris: in california today, the board of education is expected to pass and ethnic studies model curriculum for high schools after years of debate, the original draft was criticized for appearing to push a left-wing view of history and drew complaints from numerous ethnic and religious groups who say it left out their own experiences. now some of the authors are saying the final draft has been watered down and they want their names removed, but the state superintendent of public instruction says we work to bring justice to what we believe the ethnic studies movement to be about. that's a quote. you're watching "outnumbered," i am faulkner. emily compagno, tomi lahren, syndicated radio host and fox news contributor leslie marshall and in the virtual center seat, former education secretary under president reagan, fox news contributor and host of "the wise guys" on fox nation, bill bennett. great to see you on this friday eve. we are almost there. bill, i want to start with you. having been a secretary of education when you see what governor desantis is trying to do in florida, what do you make of it? is it important that he is taking those steps? >> bill: it is important. he is stepping out as a leader and stepping out and now engaging the second part of the argument, harris and others. the first part of the argument was should kids go back to school? we've been having that argument for more than a year. the answer is yes. second question is what should they be taught in schools? allow me, plato said there are really two fundamental questions in society. one, who gets to teach the children and what do we teach them? so it's very, very important. what he's saying is very tenuous theory, critical race theory, will not get a cent worth of support in florida schools. the debate is now joint, thanks to governor desantis, on what do we teach. just a little reading reference, a geographical reference, if you go to the most prestigious, expensive prep schools in the country, dalton school in new york, harvard westlake and los angeles, $50,000 price tag, you will see that the price of admission, the price of getting their kids in there, parents have to sit there and be scolded, excoriated for their racism, for their backwardness, for their privilege, et cetera in order to go to one of these exclusive schools or having their kids go so they have a shot at the ivy league. this is what the elites are doing and it's trickling down to the schools, this is going to be one heck of a debate. read the article in "the atlantic," not a conservative magazine, which lays this out. also an excellent article on this in the city journal. the issue is now joined. >> harris: two things, you're one of my only friends who can and will on a regular basis quote plato. and the other is, what if they look like me? you know, everybody going to those, with children going to the schools in california, some of the celebrities are people of color. are you going to just sequester the people who are not of color and give them the talking to, the berating that you're talking about and make them feel guilty about racism in this country? my mind is boggled, i thought we were all in this together. tomi? >> tomi: exactly and this has been happening in california for long time and it's not just the schools who are documenting official curriculum, right here in nashville, tennessee, i have a good friend who teaches special education at a very nice public school in tennessee and she is telling me that next year's curriculum is filled with this kind of thing, filled with telling white kids that they are bad and telling black kids that they are inherently victims and they should feel oppressed, which by the way, does nothing to empower or advance anyone. you make white kids and white families feel bad about themselves and you tell black kids and black families and families of color that they are always going to be a step behind does nothing for anyone but furthermore i think we also need to focus on the fact that our students, not only have they been out of school for a year or more, but even when they were in school, we've got kids that are graduating high school not knowing what tax returns are, not knowing how to balance the budget, not understanding anything about the real world, and yet we are focusing on this kind of curriculum? gender expression, critical race theory, and all of this liberal mumbo-jumbo, indoctrination, and our kids are falling behind on the actual skills that they need to compete in a college or a work environment. this is a travesty and it's time for parents to really take a stand, and i want you will quickly talk about our good friend of this program john rich because i spoke with him about this and his kids in nashville go to a very exclusive private school and that kind of thing was creeping into his school as well, so what did he do and other parents? they assembled a group of parents, they went to the board of directors and said they are not going to tolerate this and it changed. that is what parents need to do, take a stand, it's not enough to be outraged, you have to speak out. >> harris: i want to go back to secretary bennett, because i think you had a further thought and i want to give you time to do it. >> bill: it's just, when this issue is engaged the way it is by governor desantis, we are going to have a national debate about it. it's time we had a debate about it. school choice has been pushed by conservatives but school choice won't do it. it's weaker, if you will, then the movement for the world curriculum and we need to be very honest and straightforward about what it is we want to teach. look, no one denies the history of race and racism in this country, the state of slavery, i wrote three books on this and it's there, it's present. nevertheless, a lot of good things have happened, a lot of progress has been made in the separation of our society, you saw this commencement at columbia plan, six different commencement based on identity. where is martin luther king, where is that message? the content of our character not the color of our skin. we need to have a conversation to bring us back together and talk about the things that we share. remember the notion of unity that this president wanted to specify. we can do this right in the schools by reminding people of e pluribus unum. >> harris: leslie, i want to get your take on this and i know in your radio show a lot of people will call in, so i can only imagine coming and your audience is very broad. you've got people from every walk of life, just like fox, and what i love when i listen to your show is that you get all of that from the perspective of a lot of parents, so what are you hearing? >> i have so much to say. first of all, i agree with the civics class. we had that when i was young and dinosaurs roamed the earth but i do teach my kids to balance a checkbook. with all respect to you, i have been to those places, my son plays water polo and they really want me to bring him to those schools. i might, never been yelled at or made you feel bad. we have the largest population in the united states, the most diverse population in the united states and we have had a lot of problems, specifically a 150% increase on asian-americans, just one example. and what a lot of people in this state really want is our children to be taught about not just racism, where it comes from, how we can stop it now, how we can prevent it into the future. since 2014 california has been trying to do this. as you know, they have an april deadline and they are going to implement this curriculum in the fresno and los angeles county school district, and there's not a lot of pushback, at least here in california. on my radio show i would say that some people don't like finger-pointing at government in this curriculum. a lot of people do feel that our kids need some kind of ethics program and stanford university just redid their research showing that ethics programs help significantly decrease -- in the school curriculum. >> harris: in all honesty, what you're asking for is for the school systems to parent, because as a parent, we have those discussions with their children about what's different and what's changed and what needs to happen. and by the way, the way we experience whatever is happening, racially, in this country is very individual. it's not one-size-fits-all. as a black woman over 50, i guarantee you i have different experiences from my biracial 14-year-old daughter and i always will. we are different people. if you're going to try to teach race theory at a school, you're going to take more than six commencement ceremonies to hit every category of person of color. the secretary is so right about this, you just further divide us. it would be better to teach all those things with everybody in the same classroom coming from the same spot and measuring the evidence of change, as my friend liked to say on this program, which is why you don't tear down statues and burn books or take them off the market, is not the right word, but burn them from the marketplace, the ability to buy six copies of dr. seuss that somebody deemed offensive. it's why you don't do that, so that you can talk about the evidence of change. enough from me. all right, emily. >> emily: just to touch on leslie's point come in california, it's where i'm from, it's where i grew up, i went to public schools my whole life in the program that is being developed that was four years in the making like she mentioned, not serving as a model for these counties, and it was divided into four specific groups. asian-american studies, chicano/chicano studies and black/african-american studies and the pushback during those four years, during the hundreds of thousands of people who participated in this and commented on it and had concerns about it, largely from other minority groups. the jewish-american population, armenian american, particularly the arab-american, that said we want to be under the asian-american chapter. the jewish-american population was concerned about strong anti-semitic definitions in there and originally that model had in it as an appendix studies of certain populations like armenian americans and the like and those groups, and paraphrasing, those groups felt they were being cast aside. why should they be an appendix? why should they now be called as they were called then a bridge population? a lot of the arguments, quite credible, is that these types of programs are not inclusive enough. they are not sensitive enough that once you open that door, you cannot possibly account for all of that diversity that we've mentioned here. that's beautiful, that's wonderful and the unfortunate thing is that when you fail that then serves to divide and then t account, all those voices that to my understanding, the purpose is to amplify. >> harris: secretary bennett is going to wrap things up for us before we go to the commercial break. the floor is yours. >> bill: i just want to say the same to you, leslie. i have a lot of respect for you. you are smart, tough minded. one of the great things you do is admit when your team is wrong, which is not something a lot of people do. so good for you. i suggest you check in with harvard westlake, i figured you would have a connection but i think things may be changing a little bit. but the facts that are going on in the schools i think are undeniable. look, what we want to do is tell the truth. we want to tell the truth to our children but one of the truths about america right now is that white people and black people, to take two sets, pretty much get along very well in this society. are there still problems? 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think about that for one moment. should a member who cannot get security clearance in the private sector sit on a house intelligence committee? the american people deserve to know what their government is not vulnerable. by adopting my resolution we will show that we have our priorities straight. i urge my colleagues to support it and i yelled back. >> harris: all right, so we are watching as the top republican in the house now is pushing to remove eric swalwell from the intelligence committee and of course that stems from the fact that a few years ago, the fbi contacted him to let him know that someone that he was around quite often was a suspected chinese spy and in fact it's been reported that she helped him choose an intern for his office. there have been no reasons to believe in terms of the evidence shown in the cases or the case that that intern had access to anything or had any nefarious dealings or anything like that, but it was just the fact that they were close enough that they would share a higher idea in that sense. place somebody in his office and so now some republicans are saying we need to know more and until that happens, take them off the intelligence committee. that's critical and we are dealing with a lot of different countries that don't like us right now including china. i want to go right away to emily compagno. >> emily: right, that's right, and to note, the fbi has not accused congressman swalwell of any wrongdoing. that's part of his argument back. he says, i've been cleared. he points as well to the meeting that congressman mccarthy had with pelosi last year and said there were no plans to remove him from the committee. he also blasted mccarthy back in a tweet and said this is a simple deflection away from your support of qanon, so there's some finger-pointing back and forth in the public sector but that is a good question that mccarthy raised that indeed, if someone is unable to pass a security clearance, background check in the private sector why should we ask that congress meant to be part of the intel committee? >> harris: we will let everybody know we will continue to coverage. >> emily: coming to you now is a fox news alert, a border official working under president biden blasting the white house's handling the growing crisis at our southern border, warning agents are not being given the resources to handle the historic surge of migrants. >> border patrol resources are overwhelmed and we cannot secure the border based upon the threat that is coming at us. >> emily: chief patrol agent tweeting that agents arrested 369 illegal aliens over a 48 hour period in the rio grande valley sector. this year, they have encountered 19 groups of 100 or more illegally entering the u.s. meanwhile, white house press secretary jen psaki being pressed among reports that border patrol agents are being barred from speaking to the media. watch. >> we are hearing from border agents that they are frustrated and can't show us the action happening along the border, they can't do ride alongs, the can't answer questions about what's happening inside. the thing is there is no secrecy here why. >> i certainly wouldn't characterize it that way but if our policy is keeping people quiet, we are not successful and it is not our policy to prevent people from talking. >> the border seems to get violent during the trump administration and you guys promise to come in and be the most truthful and transparent administration and you oversee the department of homeland security. if you wanted to grant access to the press, can you tell the hs to do it? >> again, we fully support transparency. >> emily: in the meantime, democrats had to move ahead with the houseboats today on a pair of immigration bills including one that would give a pathway to citizenship for more than 2 million undocumented immigrants. tomi, i would like to start with you on this. given the right along as you have had committee interviews conducted at the southern border, this contrast now, preventing the press from participating, this must seem so stark to you. >> tomi: it does and jen psaki is flat out lying. she is lying. let me say it again, she is lying. i have heard from my contacts and border patrol that have become my friends because of the number of times i've been down there and the number of times i've spoken with them about what's