foil sheets, and go for days without showers. meanwhile, house minority leader kevin mccarthy has visited one of those migrant detention facilities in texas and went after president biden. he said, "he should visit the border himself to see what his policies have created." >> it's more than a crisis. this is a human heartbreak. the sad part about all of this, it didn't have to happen. this crisis is created by the presidential policies of this new administration. there is no other way to claimant than a biden border crisis. >> harris: but dhs secretary al hunter myrick has echoed the white house in blaming former president trumps policies for the surge, while also dismissing security concerns. >> the border is secure. the united states border patrol secures the border on behalf of the american people. that's what we do, and we are doing it. in order to keep the american public safe, give us the time to rebuild the system that was entirely dismantled in the prior administration. >> harris: however, he also warned that dhs is on pace to encounter more individuals on the southwest border then we have seen in the past 20 years. you are watching "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, lycos, emily compagno. host of "no interruption" on fox nation, tomi lahren. former spokesperson, morgan ortagus. and joining us today, publisher of ""the federalist,"" radio host, and fox news contributor, ben domenech. good to see everybody. there is no spinning of what is happening. all you have to do is go to the border, and we've had plenty of people do that. take a peek at it, tomi lahren has been there. i have a house not far from there. why do we put mayorkas on a jim matt, cover him with foil, let him not shower for a week, and see if he has more ideas on how to deal with the situation? >> ben: [laughs] that is certainly one way to approach it. it's great to be with you, as always. what we see on the board are now is not happening thanks to the previous administer his policies. it's happening because of the incentives that the biden administration has put in place. it's why we saw the numbers spike in january and february, far earlier than you would expect in a normal year. and it's why we are going to be dealing with this problem in a series of escalating domino effect over the coming weeks and months. i think one of the things we need to understand is that, under president trump, the attitude towards mexico was essentially very simple. take care of this problem on your own southern border so we don't have to deal with it on ours. that was an approach that really worked. for a lot of different reasons. not just because it was in the interest of mexico to secure their southern border, but also because they were facing the ramifications of trade threats and other pressure that could be put on them from the trump administration. this was obviously an approach that the left and the media completely decried. they said it was inhumane, they said it was terrible. well, what is the humanity factor now, when you see this enormous wave of human trafficking, which is what this is, that is going to fuel the cartels that are currently in the midst of a major drug conflict, a drug war, that is happening in mexico right on the other side of our southern border? this is a chaotic situation, and no amount of excuses from mayorkas or anyone else within this administration is going to be able to get away from the fact that this is a direct result of their policy decisions. >> harris: by the way, everybody, we are looking alive right now outside that convention center in dallas where they plan to fill the place up with teenage migrants coming illegally into the country. morgan? >> morgan: yes, ma'am? >> harris: your topline thoughts? >> morgan: it's interesting, harris, you talked about a dismantling of the system early on with the biden administration, and there was a dismantling of the system, but it wasn't by the trump administration. he will let me be wonky for a second, there is something renegotiated during the trip administration. two agreements. they are called aca asylum cooperation agreements, and bsa, border security agreement. we negotiated these with guatemala, honduras, and el salvador. i spoke to a senior dhs official from the trump administration, we were talking about this. he told me that they repeatedly warned the biden transition team not to unilaterally get rid of these agreements. these were not one-way agreements, they were bilateral agreements between the united states and these three countries related to exactly this, to border security, a silent. they were all signed in 2019. one of the reasons we are seeing the influx today is because the biden administration decided to get rid of these two acas and the bsa with guatemala, honduras, and el salvador, and they had nothing in place. nothing else was negotiated with these three countries. again, it's a bit of a wonky point but i think it is worth knowing that the trump dhs team did warn the incoming biden team that they would be a surge at the border if you get rid of those agreements with these three countries without anything in place. >> harris: i want to press in. i would never call you wonky, you are educating us with the facts and that counts. >> morgan: [laughs] >> harris: as a journalist, that's all i ever really care about! so i want to ask, not only did the former president trump negotiate these acas and bsas with these countries, guatemala, honduras, and el salvador, but as i remember and reported on, he negotiated through some tough talks, the "keep them in mexico pending asylum" request deal with the mexican president. that wasn't easy to get. i'm going to guess these things weren't easy to get. so, taking these things apart, it did what? did they know not to touch those points? you said you gave them a heads up. >> morgan: yeah, so i think, harris, we approached in the trump administration our foreign policy from a position of strength. when we were going to do with mexico, guatemala, honduras, el salvador, on any issues, remember that president trump was not only able to negotiate these acas and bsas and agreements with mexico, he was also able to renegotiate the trade agreement with mexico, something people thought would never happen when a leftist president was elected in mexico. so it is important to note, when you approach foreign policy with these countries from a position of strength, and you say, "we are no longer going to allow this at the border," and you mean it, and you follow up with meaningful agreements and meaningful force -- i was at the podium when we announced we were cutting funding to the northern triangle country. it was not an easy day to have to announce that, but we needed those countries to know that we meant business. >> harris: tomi? >> tomi: i agree wholeheartedly with that. i think that's an excellent point that needs to be made. back in the trump administration, he did that in mexico with tariffs. it may mexico cooperate. back when the caravans are coming through the california area and through tijuana, they were not happy. they didn't want those individuals there, they didn't want that testing their economy, their infrastructure, their law enforcement. they started to get tests and things started to change because trump administration took the p. another thing i like to discuss here, too, talking about the cartels and the criminal organizations. while they are funneling all these people through, through human trafficking and sometimes sex trafficking and making money off of these individuals and their desire to get to the united states and take advantage of our perks and programs, these drug cartels and criminal organizations are not just getting people across, they are using people and putting them in a single area and overwhelming the system, so the border patrol agents have to play babysitter and take care of those people coming over. while they are occupied with that, they are bringing the drugs through. so i hope the american people understand that. we are in the middle of the pandemic, but also an opioid epidemic and a drug crisis in this country. those drugs coming over with those criminal organizations, they are using these people as a shield and a distraction and they are sending through all these drugs. last year when i visited mcallen, after the trump administration and tough policies were put in place, border patrol agents were telling me, "we are always going to deal with criminal organizations and cartels trying to get drugs over here, but now our agents can focus on that and we are not focused on being babysitters, running people to the hospital, to detention centers, processing people." again, this is bigger than the migrants coming over. it's also drugs. it's a national security issue, it border security issue, and an issue not just in border states but all across this country. it's going to flow upward. >> harris: all across the country, which is why you see the attorneys general in places like montana joining a lawsuit with arizona because they know that the meth coming across, and other drugs, go through that corridor, and they've seen such a spike of that type of crime in their state of montana. former white house press secretary sarah sanders during the last hour, and she talked about what's going on at the southern border. watch. >> and president trump instituted the remain in mexico policy, and put up a border wall, it was effective and it worked. president biden's administration has actually caused humanitarian and national crisis at our border by opening them up at a time when democrats are fighting to keep our schools, our businesses, and our church is closed. they are completely opening our border. it is a total disgrace. >> harris: look, emily, one of the new york congressman has said that the president is aiding and abetting in the crime of human trafficking with his policies. something similar to what you just heard from sarah sanders. >> emily: right. i think at a minimum it is construed as enablement, harris. i like to dig a little deeper on these capacity locations here. we know the administration is opening a temporary facility in midland texas at a camp for former oilfield workers. we know a proposal is being considered for the nasa site in silicon valley, california, now in homestead, florida, a place of former holdings for up to 1700 migrant children, that is now in warm status pay would it have in common connect they are nowhere near the southern border. each of those locations bring with them a whole host of considerations for logistics, for costs, and for covert exposure. it's not just about the administration having control over these temporary facilities, private operators along the border -- this is important -- private operators along the southern border have expressed that they expect increases in the surge through june and that there is, quote, "no plan in place by this administration to deal with them." they are left out in the win. it's not just us talking about this and calling for action, specificity, or plan on the part of this administration. the attorneys granted restricted access down there, as well as the aclu had, have demanded this administration essentially get their act together. >> harris: all right, we'll move on. a big correction coming from "the washington post." actually, it's other company the other question is, will anybody follow that connect the paper admits it miscoded then president trump in a phone call with georgia election investigators. how the former president is reacting. plus, to former cuomo staffers and current accuses share new details about their sexual harassment claims against him. center screen. >> governor cuomo used slating as a way to bring a woman employee in, and she didn't do the job as he wanted her to do, he would stop flirting with her, with the idea that she 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and there may be other implications, too. he was joe concha on "fox & friends" earlier. watch. >> is only to those candidates in georgia had won their election, suddenly all this agenda, all these policies that president biden is now able to push through, it probably does not happen. so yeah, this is consequential. this is big stuff. again, this is going to get a passing mention by all those networks that covered this breathlessly. >> morgan: ben domenech, i'd like to start with you on this. what are your thoughts? >> ben: well, i think first off we have to understand how deeply problematic it is over the past several years to see how much anonymous sourcing came to be something that was just ubiquitous, and every piece of media attacked on president trump, including situations where anonymous sources would then be used to back up other anonymous sources and be presented as confirmation. now that we know what actually happened in the situation, it looks even worse than everything you've already run through, in the sense that, how do we know this? we know this because an open records request led to a recording made by the office in question, being discovered in a trash folder on a computer. in other words, they had tried to delete it and not gotten away with it. without that, we wouldn't even know that right now one of the things that was referred to in the presentation by the democrats during the impeachment of the president was totally fraudulent, that he did not say the thing that these anonymous sources claimed that he said. to me, this is something that is going to continue to be a problem in the media going forward. it's not just tied to president trump. the use of anonymous sources, held up in such importance, is a really disturbing phenomenon, and we need to be skeptical of it to a much greater degree going forward. >> morgan: tomi? >> tomi: yeah, these entities are not just political, they are partisan political weapons, and they've been used. furthermore, i want to talk of the actual claims here, pointing to election integrity and the vulnerabilities and the potential voter fraud. that is something that the media and the left has been doing their best to keep us from talking about, and at every turn they want to shame us. they bring up the inspection on january 6th, they talk about donald trump and his outrageous claims of voter fraud, because they do not want us to look deeper into this issue. but that is why it is incumbent upon us to continue to do so, especially those media entities and outlets out there that are concerted journalism, that are concerned with seeking the truth and reporting it. we need to talk about election integrity and the fact that "the washington post" went to such an extent to twist his words, misquoted him, and not issue a correction after the fact? we all need to be really concerned about that, and it should only push it forward in the discussion election integrity as we get to the midterms and the next election. something we have to pay attention to and watch. >> emily: morgan, your thoughts? >> morgan: i like to hear from the georgia secretary of state, the georgia governor, and anyone else who was a source to "the washington post." the way i understand it, they were the ones who said this information to "the washington post," and are the ones who claimed that trump said these. if you look at it from the journalist perspective, they appeared to have multiple sources confirming that the president said this, and it could have been the governor, the secretary of state, their senior aides. i also think that these elected officials had a lot to answer for. at the moment it looks like either these officials or someone in their offices lied to "the washington post," and pushed out a negative story. while we should definitely be holding the media accountable, and i fully agree with the assessment from the other panelists, i think that these elected officials, the governor, the secretary of state, the ones who pushed the lies, they also need to be held accountable. >> emily: harris, your thoughts? >> harris: yeah, and to that end, morgan, that is still journalism you are talking about. what you're asking them to do is, without revealing everything in their source notebooks, to tell you how the story came about. and that leads us to the next question. what was your trigger this time to say that you got it wrong? and what is the difference, journalistically, depending on what morgan is asking? what is the difference between "you got it wrong" and "you lied?" how many times has that happened before and he didn't get caught or that wasn't that trigger? that's going back to what morgan was talking about. you have to see what the chain was leading to that, as late as you can access, i don't think you are often, but you have to lean and deep and see where this story comes from. how did you morph those words? who told you to do that? what was that like? and that involves more than just the people potentially at the paper. what about all the other outlets? are they going to fix there's? >> emily: that remains to be seen. >> ben: the answer is no. 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"the new york post" seized on that, mocking the governor on today's front page with the headline, "shock and paw." as cuomo faces pressure to resign, has popularity is taking a hit. a recent poll shows 45% of new yorkers see him unfavorably. that 43% match as his lowest favorability rating ever. a couple of you split some time with new york and have some experience. ben, i'm going to come to you first. i've always been curious, when you have someone this high profile, how that never gets vetted, gets out there. maybe there is opposition research on that the other offices. why are we just hearing it now? that sort of thing. >> ben: you know, i think one of the biggest issues, and i hate to keep harping on the media in >> emily: do and experience, but the media is so bad at their jobs that often they don't pay attention to the things that they ought to when they have a natural bias in favor of the individual involved. i think, for instance, the experience in florida, where instead of having ron desantis, who almost had andrew gillum, who turns out to be a complete mess in terms of his life. not just the drug use, but a number of other issues that came up since he left that election. that was very close. you could've had a governor that had all of the same problems. with andrew cuomo in this situation, i think we see this escalating level of seriousness in the allegations. at first it seemed like kind of creepy, maybe gross older guy stuff, but not necessarily something that was particularly aggressive. it seems to be increasing in terms of the aggressiveness and the seriousness of the charges. but, again, we should be talking about the much bigger issue with him, which is the nursing home problem. everything that happened because of his leadership, which had a much worse effect in terms of policy. as bad as i'm sure it could be in terms of the toxic environment, it still pales in comparison to 15,000 lives potentially lost because of the policies that he had in place. >> harris: morgan? >> morgan: you know, listening to the beginning of this segment, hearing these women tell their stories, it really broke my heart. it's hard to hear. i think we need to commend the women. it's at least seven so far, maybe more, who have come forward. it's very hard to do, in a state where the governor has been this powerful for so long. what i think about is, when i hear these women tell you stories, how many more women are behind them? how long has this gone on? governor cuomo has been a power powerful force in politics. almost his entire adult career he's been in politics. how long has this gone on? where people, women, were afraid to come forward and tell their story? i would end by saying i also feel like it's the first female vice president, that kamala harris and president biden have a responsibility, and especially the vice president, she has a responsibility to speak up for women given her senior role. see when she was a prosecutor for years! i mean, look, you don't have to hold a press conference unless you feel like you need to, but not really saying much at this point. in some investigation, that it's time to say something. there are seven accusers. not to make this all about the current vice president, but she was so vocal against then-justice nominee kavanaugh. it's a glaring silence, if you will >> morgan: it absolutely is, and we need to hear about this. leave and talk about this a couple weeks now. i want to make this very clear, i'm not in any way victim shaming, no one ever do this. but help at all this discussion and talk and the #metoo movement over the last five years or more has grown to prominence, as a young woman myself and as someone who will hopefully have a daughter one day, i hope that we can teach women and girls in every age not to wait so long to come forward. if something happens to you, if someone is aggressive towards you, makes you feel and comfortable, i hope that we as women and men have the ability and the strength to say something in that moment and corrected and not have to wait until years later. i hope we are teaching young men dominic women and men to do that and that they are brought up with that characteristic. ending these men that are too powerful, too big to fail, to keep them from doing that in the first place if they know they're not going to get away with it and it's not going to be tolerated in the moment. >> harris: i'll tell you one thing that would help, take the politics out of it. no matter what side of the isle you assume a would-be victim would or would not beyond, listen to them. again, i've said this before, democrats at the bar too high for themselves, they have not shown they are willing to do that. why not make that bar listen to all women and take the politics out of it? 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[ tires screech ] well, that came out of nowhere. >> i think you'll see some actions by some committees to help certain parts of it, but ultimately it's going to be put together a similar -- [inaudible] >> emily: that hot mic moment capturing a democratic senator telling pete buttigieg how dems could pass a $2 trillion infrastructure bill without a g.o.p. support, using budget reconciliation. the plan he mentioned as the pandemic relief bill. the reconciliation process allows passage of any bill in the upper chamber with just 50 democrat votes, and a tie-breaking vote by vice president kamala harris. republicans like senator joni ernst blasting the idea. watch. >> democrats don't have any intention of working with republicans this year. senator cardin said, they are going to ram it through, do what they want to do, and they don't have to have republican participation. it is a sorry state we are in right now. >> emily: morgan, your thoughts? >> morgan: we'll see what happens with senator manchin. he has previously indicated that he would not be willing to pass an infrastructure bill without republican support, so he still holds all the cards in some way. remember the reconciliation wasn't designed for major policy changes. it is a budget tool. that's why you saw the covid bill, the minimum wage increase that was proposed didn't make it into that file reconciliation bill. i think ultimately if president biden chooses to go the route of reconciliation and not working with republicans on this intersection bill, it'll be the end of unity. not that there's much to speak up for the past two months, but the hope, the rhetoric that came from the president that he wanted unity from republicans would be ended if they go this route. i just remind the audience, emily, that we had at least five covid bills that passed with over 90 votes in the senate. that is a huge majority of republicans and democrats voting. you can bring people together, it just takes work and you have to care and want to do it. you have to be willing to compromise. but if the budget reconciliation bills relating to covid is an indicator, not a lot of appetite for compromise in this white house. >> emily: tomi, your thoughts? >> tomi: again, i don't know anybody is surprised about this. this is what the democrats are going to do and continue to do it until we get them out of office, and they will continue to spend our taxpayer dollars on what they really want and for their big government socialist agenda, and pass it off in any way they can. as covid, is anything else, really. a blue state bailouts, giving money to states, to local governments. it's just going to be passing out money, and we are going to do it because we can. we saw the writing on the wall with obamacare, now it's only going to get worse. i would ask the democrats, if you are going to spend our taxpayer dollars and have these huge spending bills and you want to waste our money in this way, at least be honest about it. at least tell us your big plan and agenda, don't pass it off something else pay not to know where our tax dollars are going. we have to wake up and see that democrats are spending their money recklessly and trying to fill them with it. absolutely ridiculous. >> emily: to morgan's point, d.c. leadership coming out of the white house or an actual demonstration toward unity rather than simple rhetoric? 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"south pacific" is amazing. if they're going to do a play from rodgers and hammerstein, they should be doing "carousel." the best song is "you'll never walk alone," which i sang in the 2003 miss florida competition, so i'm fine with "south pacific" not happening as long as they do "carousel." >> emily: i'm so glad we got even here, this is fantastic. we will have to find video of that, for sure. 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