senator tim scott, democrat senator ben cardon on what comes next and then the andrew cuomo fuss and the democrat who challenged him and was bullied by him, assemblyman ron kim is here to tell his story. welcome, everybody and happy, well, saturday and weekend, things are warming up in texas that's good to hear, temperature s now above freezing. that's also good to hear, but then there are all of the other issues in the lone star state and they are not going away. the very latest now from grady trimble, following it all, right now in fort worth. hey, grady. reporter: hey, neil, this is one of many water distribution sites across the state of texas, with the power back on, many texans are struggling with an even more basic need. that's what you see here. water as well as food and in some cases, people are waiting in incredibly long lines for these bare necessities because, well, grocery store shelves have been wiped clean. >> through the snow -- >> hard to find food right now. all of the stores are pretty bare. even walmart. >> right now it's hard. wherever you go, 7-eleven everything is just out. reporter: the winter weather has slowed the distribution of not just food and water, but another life saving item. the coronavirus vaccine. the white house says 6 million doses of the vaccine were delay ed because of this week's storms. meanwhile a man in corpus cristi is suing ercot, the texas power grid operator. he says they failed to boost the power supply ahead of the storm and didn't winterize the power grid. governor greg abbott also placing some of the blame on ercot. >> ercot fell short which is exactly why that i have ordered the state legislature to investigate exactly why ercot fell short here and to make sure this never happens again. reporter: the total damage and economic loss from this week's storms estimated to be as much as $50 billion according to accuweather's founder and ceo. that's just $10 billion less than the entire 2020 hurricane season, which you'll remember, was the most active in history, and temperatures, as you mentioned, neil, they are warming up today but with all of these problems there is still a long road ahead in texas. neil? neil: thank you, my friend, very very much, grady trimble reporting from fort worth here again the temperatures are supposed to stay above freezing for at least the next few days and what kind of impact they have on the state that badly needs more food and water, we shall see. we've got texas congressman with us right now. congressman thank you for taking the time. you know, this cascading effect is just stunning to watch, congressman, and a lot of the fingers seem to go back to the state utility and this energy grid operator. is it totally on them? >> well, thanks for having me and you know, i think it's something that we need to find out the facts but what i will say is that anything from the left that this is due to not having enough green energy is completely false. texas has more wind and solar energy than any other state and my congestion at district has more wind energy than the entire state of california but when talking about the energy and the production of it, it's reliability. it's resiliency and that's what oil & gas gives you and you can't pick favorites and prop one up in a situation where you give them an unfair advantage and that's what we need to look at. neil: all right, well, everything seems to go down, congressman. you're a lot more familiar with this than i am but it seems like the wind turbines and these others that account for 10% of the energy and needs and issues here a good man it of them, you know, all of them deactivated in the cold, and the natural gas plants and the rest, they followed suit and it was a domino effect, so i get that but it sounds like everything that could go wrong did go wrong and almost perfect timing. what has to be done right now? >> well it was a perfect storm, and it's a once-in-a-lifetime storm with extreme temperatures. you know, not seen in the last 60 or 70 years where we had six or seven days below freezing, you know, single-digits and so again, i think we do need to look at that resiliency piece. there were a lot of factors that did cascade and domino. people are still digging out. my family lost power for almost three days. we have pretty good water damage in our home just like thousands or millions of other texans this very second. neil: you know, your colleague in the united states senate, ted cruz, has come under a lot of criticism for his cancun trip. want to weigh in on that and how he's tried to explain it? >> well i haven't spoken with him. what we've been focused on here is just making sure that we're doing everything we can to stay in touch with the 29 counties, all the constituents to be helpful, to be a liason. i can't be more proud of our local elected officials for everything they've done. there's true heros in our local community and we've tried to help them by being that liason to agencies like fema. i authored a letter and had 19 co-signers on it, bipartisan that we sent to president biden yesterday asking for major disaster declaration which he has accepted and that is going to provide much-needed help, where a state right now is digging out of a very wintry and cold storm. neil: congressman, we're told in retrospect that apparently your grid was minutes away from shutting down entirely, just going down. there are others who are now saying that all has to be reassessed, in fact, you can't import power even moments of crisis. i don't know why that be , maybe it's the independence of the texas power grid, i'm unaware, but do you think that has to be addressed, in other words that when a storm or unusually cold weather is approaching, that texas should be open to getting energy from other outside the state sources. >> well, you know, i think that the decision to have texas on an independent grid is the right decision. i think what needs to be looked at is the different sources of energy. i go back to reliability. yes, we did have to load share, we got to 60,000 megawatts of demand on the 14th late on the evening of february 14th and at 2:00 a.m. on the 15th is where, you know, we had to start shedding upwards of 15,000 megawatts, but the question that needs to be asked right now is that reliability question, and when we have wind turbines that are literally freezing and cannot produce any energy and have gone down to 2% of their capacity, then i think that's where we need to look at our base load and that resiliency on the grid, which really comes from a couple of sources and that's oil, natural gas, coal, and nuclear, and those are really the foundational and fundamental sources of our grid. neil: did anyone know that this could happen if temperature s stayed below freezing for an extended period of time? i know it seems like another obvious question but did anyone know that? >> neil here is the interesting thing. experts for a long time have been saying that something like this could happen, and they've been saying that because policy has played favorites and has lifted up wind and solar in a way that is, it has given them an unfair advantage. the key here is they thought it would happen in the summer, because texas has extreme summer time temperatures, they thought it be a heat wave and so i think we didn't know that it was going to happen in the dead of winter and that's really what we need to go back and look at and see how we can prevent it but having an independent system , i do believe, is the right call and we need to make sure we keep that and go back and look at the resiliency of our grid. neil: congressman pfluger, thank you very very much. best of luck getting the state and your district back on its feet and their feet. august pfluger, right now, the beautiful state of texas. even if you are not in texta even if you were not affected by this storm that ravaged much of the atlantic east coast the fact of the matter is prices were going up commensurately here, whether you're looking at oil, home heating oil, gasoline, nat gas. there was one day earlier where nat gas prices alone, in one day, jumped 8%. now there were other factors at play here but this goes way beyond just weather-related or energy-related commodities. a host of them have been soaring of late and it occurs at a time when inflation is being raised again, as a legitimate threat to this economic recovery if it goes too far too fast. it has moved very far, and it has moved very fast. how big a worry should this be? we got dan geltrude with us, rebecca walzer and last but not least, erin gibbs. so, erin, end with you begin with you on how real this inflation threat could be. in other words it's not just gas home heating oil, natural gas, it's a whole lot of stuff moving up. >> for the most part though, its been within materials, and particularly with construction and this migration into the suburbs has caused a lot of those prices to increase, but the real thing that indicates inflation is bond markets, and that's what we've been noticing is that a lot of those bond yields have been going up, but when you look at treasury, inflation protected securities tips those are the best indicators about what type of inflation we're expecting. on the short-term, yeah, we are expecting maybe 2.5% inflation over the next year, which comes with the recovery when you're expecting 5% gdp growth, but this is still a very healthy number. we're not seeing extreme numbers it just feels very big, because we're coming off of such lows and having almost zero interest rates, so i don't see it as a massive concern. in fact if you look at these tips, they are only slightly above the federal reserve's target, and so we're not seeing really any massive run or massive increase. it's really still within a healthy or normal environment that we would hope. neil: well there might be something we're coming off very very low levels so any up-tick obviously feels impactful but dan, lumber stood out to me when prices jumped over $1,000 and i know there's shortages of that but a lot of home contracts were canceled because the affordability of the home forced buyers out, unless they came up with more money. now, i only mention that because housing starts were directly affected. the opening start, if you will, to housing construction. i'm wondering how serious this problem could get. >> well it could get serious, neil, and i think if you look at what the policies are right now, or the policies we're going towards right now in washington, i think it's starting to set a situation where it could happen. first, the push on the minimum wage. maybe that's stalled a little bit, but still, rising costs for employees, not good for inflation. we're seeing closing down of pipelines. the hovering of the green new deal. the way we're printing money. more stimulus. interest rates being low. all these factors are looming out there. i agree with erin. we're manageable right now, 2% or so is baked into what investors are expecting. i think we could easily hit 3%, and if we hit 4%, neil, in the inflation, i think that's where it gets a little hard to stop and once inflation gets started, not so easy to stop. for example, you have restaurants that have been putting surcharges on related to the pandemic. are they going to roll those back post-pandemic? i think some of these rising costs are going to stick around for a while. neil: you know, rebecca, what the are your thoughts on whether the weather, it does have a lasting impact because these storms we're following one after the other and obviously that shuts down plant, all of the major automakers in the region had to shutdown their facilities, samsung shutdown a chip-making plant, i think it is still closed by the way, so it's not just like a hurricane that comes in, comes out, and then people try to get back. this is sort of like a rolling stoppage. i'm just wondering is that going to come up and be an issue in our economic recovery? >> well, pardon the pun, neil, but i'm going to tell you that i think this is the perfect storm, because i agree with dan's point the administration, the new administration's policies combined with the entire country except florida, under snow, which is just outrageous in and of itself, you have to go back. i mean when has this happened before i can't even think of a time so the point is that we got to see a couple of things. we are not so energy-independent that we have pipelines shutting down, but then, we have texas shutdown and their green energy policies which are commendable show that when you have an irregular event, weather weather event it's not going to be enough, so this is a perfect storm and it's revealing a lot. neil: all right, well florida is a little bit more detail in the next hour, guys i want to thank you very very much in the meantime we're also focused on stimulus out of washington. that seems to have hit a little bit of an ice patch here. the big concern seems to be what joe biden meant when he said that he is open to making that $1.9 trillion plan cheaper. who is he ticking off more saying that? 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neil: all right, david thank you very very much, well the democratic senator ben card on think of that more centrist approach, we thought we would ask him, he's next. hey neal! with 3% cash back at drugstores from chase freedom unlimited, you can now earn even more. i got this great shampoo you should try. yeah you look good. of course i do neal, i'm kevin hart. now earn 3% at drugstores and so much more. chase. make more of what's yours. to navigate your active days, weathertech has you covered. mirrorfone secures your phone to almost any smooth flat surface. ♪ ♪ cupfone keeps your phone secure while driving. ♪ ♪ hi mom. -hi. the deskfone even adjusts for horizontal viewing. ♪ ♪ while the tablet holder keeps everything in the perfect position. nice. the best way to secure your devices is at weathertech.com neil: all right if you ask anyone in the stock market whether they think stimulus is still on the table and still going to get passed to a man and woman who seem to be telling me on fox business which if you don't get you should demand, that it is going to happen. that they're not worried about it but there are some worried developments over the week that shows the number of republicans and now democrats who aren't pleased where this is going. republicans don't want it to be $1.9 trillion and democrats are concerned with the president being open to making this cheaper, that he will get rid of some progressive priorities that they thought were a given. senator ben cardin, democrat of maryland joins us right now, senator thank you for joining us for another saturday. we always enjoy having you on. is this thing falling apart? >> well, neil it's good to be with you. no, i think we have an excellent chance of passing the next covid relief package, certainly before mid-march which is the date in which some of the benefits under the december bill expire. i'm optimistic we'll get a bill done by then. neil: all right that's what about three weeks away. progressive timetable, what do you think? >> well that's reconciliation allows us to move with speed. obviously we would like to see as broad of support as possible, but when you look at the components of the $1.9 trillion package the president has suggested, i think most americans agree that we need the help, we need the help for american families, we need the help for those unemployed, we need the help for the vaccine distributions, we need the help for our state and local governments. the list goes on, small businesses, our economy, so keeping schools open safely. all that is in the $1.9 trillion package and i think congress is prepared to pass a package similar to what the president has asked for. neil: you know, senator your republican colleagues say $1 trillion from prior stimulus efforts have not been spent yet, so why, you know, pad on to that what do you say to them? >> well you have to take a look at the specific categories. i could talk about small business, because i know what's remaining in regards to the small business help, and that's important. we have another round of ppp protection going out as we speak, but what we do on this $1.9 trillion is target relief to those smaller of the small businesses that are in desperate need, with help with grants rather than loan, so it supplements what we've already done, but targets it to those who really need it. neil: you know, senator maybe because this be , as you pointed out a reconciliation measure, there are certain things you can do, other things you can't do. i think the president has surmised that you can't include a minimum wage hike in that package like that. at least not now. do you agree with him? >> well i certainly support increasing the minimum wage, and i recognize that we need to get broader support and we have challenges as far as the process in the united states senate the so-called bird rule so we have to work with all those challenges. i think the president, i've listened to this statements on this , i think he's expressing the reality of where we are in the united states senate. neil: does that include, senator , forgiving student debt? he's already parted company with alexandria ocasio-cortez and the chuck schumer who wants to forgive up to 50,000 students of student debt and i believe he's capped it at 10,000, but i believe here it would not be part of this stimulus measure, what do you think? >> well we clearly need the deal with the cost of higher education. this was a problem before covid-19. it's not just the amount of student debt that's held by american families, which is extraordinary. it's also the current cost of college that we have to deal with. there's no reason why an american family shouldn't be able to send their child to college without taking out loans and debt, so we need to figure out a path forward for higher education that would deal with the cost as well as dealing with the outstanding debt. neil: senator, as well, what is your take on the real joe biden? i know there's always a battle and a lot of republicans say when he's coming out with these executive orders that those orders were screaming he's uber progressive, not a moderate and now he seems to have pivoted a little bit saying moderate things like you've touched on this idea of not including some of the measures in this stimulus plan. who is the real joe biden? is he a moderate in your eyes? >> well you know, i've known joe biden for a long time, i served within the united states senate when he was chair of the senate foreign relations committee and i was on the committee. we're friends. i think joe biden's exactly who you see. he tells it the way it is. he's made some course corrections from the trump adminitration. that's why you seen so many executive orders reversing what president trump by executive order to get us back to where you were before president trump took office through executive orders so i do think he's looks for a way to bring people together and he wants to represent all americans and i'm not just talking about from a party point of view but from a philosophical point of view so i really do believe he's trying to find a path forward that will unite our country and have policies that are widely accepted among the american people. neil: senator ben cardin very nice seeing you on a saturday. have a wonderful weekend, senator ben cardin of the beautiful state of maryland sits on the senate finance committee, will have a significant influence on how all of this sorts out and if he's right it will by the middle of march. we shall see. we'll have senator tim scott republican of south carolina weighing in on the same issues in the next hour in the meantime , do you remember those teachers and school administrators out in california who were mocking parents and all the rest? they paid dearly for it. they've all resigned. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a short list of quality candidates from our resume database. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home. at t-mobile, we have a plan built just for customers 55 and up. saving 50% vs. other carriers with 2 unlimited lines for less than $30 each. call 1-800-t-mobile or go to t-mobile.com/55. neil: all right, you giggle, you go. the california school administrators and teachers who were mocking parents unaware that, well, some parents were listening in and now the entire country, well they all resigned in mass. alicia kunia has more. reporter: hard to see any other way around this. the entire oakley union elementary school district board located in northern california has now resigned after a meeting in which the members thought was private and where they were trashing parents was actually public. >> hurts but do you know what? >> are we alone? >> yeah. >> [laughter] >> if you're going to call me out i'm going to [bleep] you up. sorry. >> they forget that there's real people on the other side of those letters that they're writing. it's really unfortunate. >> exactly. >> they want to pick on us, because they want their babysitters back. >> that video was recorded by a parent who says this is what she heard and recorded. it was uploaded then to a reopen california schools account. the announcement came in a statement quoting, we deeply regret the comments that were made in the meeting of the board of education earlier this week, as trustees we relationize it is our responsibility to model the conduct that we expect of our students and staff and it is our obligation to build confidence and district leadership. our comments failed in both regards and for this , we offer our sincerities apology. to help facilitate the healing process, we will be resigning our positions effective immediately. parents were not only furious over what they heard, but they also said they were hurt. >> it's okay if you don't want to send your child to school. it's okay if you do, but don't degrade parents by and degrading the teachers by calling them babysitters. no one is a babysitter here. >> that's not the case. we want our kids to be kids. reporter: now the superintendent says they will be working with the office of education to address the vacancies on the board. neil? neil: thank you, alicia, very very much. you got to be careful what you say around open mics, alicia acu nia on all of that. you probably know and you heard yesterday that asylum seekers who during the trump adminitration to litigate their case had to sort of chill out in mexico. well now they are allowed to come into the united states and chill out until legal authorities can score a court appointment for them. the problem with that and why the trump adminitration had changed it so that they had to wait it out in mexico is that a lot of them never showed up for those appointments and that is the concern right now, no doubt, of my next guest, mark morgan, mark is the former acting custom border protection commissioner who joins us right now. mark, what do you think of this plan and the risks that we think are out there? >> neil, i mean, you just stated the biggest risk of all. look, back in 2019, neil one of the driving factors behind the unprecedented crisis was the fact that we had these significant loopholes, one of them being if you made it to the border you were going to be released into the united states, and never be heard from again. that's not a right or left thing, facts support that and under the trump adminitration, that was cutoff and in large part due to the migrant protection protocol that remain in mexico program as most know it and now not only is that program been rescinded but those that were already enrolled in the program, those are the people now that are being actively allowed into the united states that all they are doing is coming to a port of entry and now being allowed in, and neil real quick what's important to that is it's not just what's happening on the front end they are being released but also on the back end remove the isis authorities to remove them lawfully once they stay here illegally. so catch and release is back on and they are actually creating the next wave of people who says where is my amnesty? neil: where do they go and who monitors them then, mark, in this event, that here they are in the united states, are they restricted to a certain area, or areas? does anyone monitor and i mean 25,000 that's a lot of people in the first wave. how do we keep track? >> we do not. that's the answer, neil. look there's been talk about alternative attention, but what's happening now, that's not even being used and we know that that's a failure anyway, whether they put an ankle bracelet on them cut them off and don't show up but neil this is very important. your questions spot on. they are going to be allowed in. there's really no monitoring and now because of the new enforcement restrictions, i.c.e. is going to be prohibited if they don't show up for a hearing they are going to be prohibited from going after them, and detaining them and trying to remove them. i mean, they are absolutely, we're seeing a new era where our country is facilitating illegal immigration in this country. neil: do you know, and it's still early in the process and i grant you that, mark, that we have seen an up-tick of people sneaking over the border and lindsey graham was saying on the border in arizona taking a look at holes in the wall that aren't going to be patched up that's just sort of like a gaping invitation for those to come right in. do we have any reliable data on how many are taking advantage of this sort of limbo in the meantime? >> yeah, so neil, i wouldn't categorize as what you're seeing as an up-tick. i'm categorizing it since an election the numbers have sky rocketed. neil, we're getting, we're outputting 3,500 a day at the southwest border, remember it was jeh johnson the former secretary under then president obama and vice president biden where he said 1,000 was a bad day. i didn't agree much on his immigration policies but that i agreed with. 1,000 is a bad day we're at 3,500 a day that's why i say the crisis has already gun. it's already here of those numbers and it's a direct result of the open border strategies that this administration within a few weeks has already enacted. neil: all right, mark morgan good seeing you again. i hope you're wrong on this but eve been on a lot of the things going on, mark morgan former acting cbp commissioner, also keeping an eye on history repeating itself, you've heard by now, it has something remarkably in common with apollo 11. remember when it was landing on the moon, the first two men to land on the surface of the moon? 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>> well, it really was done by people back here, there's too much of a time delay for that, but it was able to do what it needed to do to find smooth, successful touchdown point and i think that it's a great tribute to all of the folks at nasa led by jim risenstein and all of the other people, especially those in the control room at jpl neil: yeah, you're right, of course the former nasa administrator and you know, buzz when you look at this , i mean it's a different world now than when you were early gemini days and apollo of course going to the moon with neil armstrong and now it used to be back in those days we were a race against the then soviet union, now orbiting mars, as we're down there, you've got this chinese spacecraft and a united arab emirate one and more coming to the floor doing this and in fact china is pouring record amount of money into a lunar landers, dark side of the moon. it's non-stop. what do you think of that that it's not just the u.s. anymore. >> we are making progress, and it's all bipartisan, and unifying in denver, especially one that takes six months to get there, but everything takes quite a while and it's planning stages with the crew for a landing mission, and for all the technicians in the control room. neil: how long do you think before, you know, human beings are walking the surface? >> your time or my time? neil: [laughter] i'll go with your time. >> it is a little bit more realizeable, at least i hope so. let's see , about 10-20 years ago, my estimate was around 2030 -2033 and that was earlier than most other people were figuring. we've got to do a good number of things in our manned program to the moon. i don't think we can do both of them at real high density so it's going to take the first one at the moon, and then the public is going to be ready to see the next which will be sophisticated improvement of these unmanned missions. neil: well i look forward to it. buzz, they ought to suit you up because you should go back there , 91 years young, and still stunningly amazing at all of this stuff and you're accurate to the tee about our conquering mars, eventually getting a timetable to get men and women on mars. you were saying that when no one was. i want to thank you and i want to thank you for everything. buzz aldrin, only 12 human being s have walked on the moon. buzz is one of them. stay with us. neil: all right, that cold weather we experienced throughout much of the country this week also froze a lot of vaccine doses from getting delivered to all the key places better than 6 million of them, we're told, should this be a worry, we're told that things are going to get back to normal whatever that is and shipments of 1.3-1.5 million vaccines per day, per week i should say. dr. ra j joins me now the nyu langone associate professor. doctor good to see you again, how big a deal is this? are any of those vaccine doses in peril because of this delay what can you tell us? >> good morning, neil great to be here so the good news is the seems that the doses were delayed weren't actually sort of shipped out an in limbo thawing somewhere. they made the decision not to ship them so they won't be delay ed and they won't be thrown out and there were several missteps in rolling out the vaccine it hasn't gone as smoothly as anyone had hoped but people are getting vaccinated and there are the sort of hidden doses put away for second doses for nursing homes, it's not going as smoothly as we want but it is going and eventually people will get the vaccines, everyone who wants one will get one eventually and of course the cost of delaying it and still people unfortunately are dying. neil: you know, there's been a lot of clammer of dr. marty maka ry's statement, who said herd immunity could be had by april. a month after next, what do you think of that? >> yeah, and i know dr. makary , he's a very brilliant guy and it's difficult to say with certainty when herd immunity is going to come and anyone who sort of can put their foot down and say that i'm not sure that they have all the information for them. it could be sooner than we think , because what he was referring to is the many million s of people who have been infected and maybe asymptomatic aren't really counted in the number and of course if there's an infection that adds to the herd immunity but we don't really know the answer to that number and we also don't know what rule the variance is going to play so the new variance that are more infectious, and may not be as responsive to the vaccine, that could play a role as well, so, when herd immunity is coming , unclear. i don't think anyone can say with certainty. i think by the end of the year is a good guess. much sooner than that i think it's a little bit premature to o pine at this point. neil: all right, thank you, doctor, dr. roshini haj, the biden administration says they hope to have some sort of normalcy whatever that is by year-end so we shall see. we've got senator tim scott joining us now, the south carolina republican, on what he makes of the stimulus plan getting a chilly response from some, and ron kim, he is the democratic new york assembly man who revealed a darker side of governor andrew cuomo, a nasty side. he's here too. how great is it that we get to tell everybody how liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? 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very happy to have you and we're focusing on developments in washington d.c., not the least of which is this stimulus plan, the minimum wage stuff and you may have heard joe biden talking about being open to a cheaper plan than the 1.9 trillion advertised. now, here is the rub though. we're going to talk to senator tim scott about it and republicans are saying it should be cheaper. although the senator is open to some of the broader aspects. and ben carden, a lot of features could not be pushed into this, the hike in the minimum wage and that, therein lies the battle back and forthment and optimism that this could be done by the middle of march. a few weeks away and explore that with senator scott. in the meantime, lucas tomlinson following the developments in washington. hey, lucas. >> hey, neil. senator carden was optimistic. the proposed hike might not make it into president biden's 1.9 trillion dollar stimulus plan. senator ben cardin spoke on your show. >> i support increasing the minimum wage and i recognize that we need broader support than we have challenges as far as the process in the united states senate. so-called byrd rule. so we have to work with the challenges. i think the president listened to his statements on this, i think he's expressing the reality of where we are in the united states senate. >> republican senators mitt romney and others speak with raising the minimum wage and they say that millions of americans are struggling to make ends meet. we can fix this by verifying the status so they can't undercut on the black market. creme the minimum wage is 7.25 an hour, some think is too difficult to live on. at $15 it would more than double the minimum wage and some say it should be indexed so it doesn't come up every decade. and democrats are looking whether to include the minimum wage in the stimulus package and not all are on board. and joe manchin says he's supportive of minimum wage increase, but not to $15. and president biden says he supports $15 minimum wage, but admits the topic is up for debate, neil. neil: can they do it in a reconciliation measure, lucas? that seems to be the parliamentary issue. >> senator cotton seemed optimistic. but if it were to go to $15 an hour, 1.4 million jobs could be lostment . lost. if you're on the end of that $15 an hour you'd be pretty happy. neil: tim scott, the beautiful state of south carolina, the finance committee, an influential figure in this entire debate. senator, good to see you again. how are you doing? >> good, neil. good morning. good to see you again. how are you? >> i'm fine. i hear your state is getting cold weather of late, too. how are things there now? >> it is chilly. thank god we're not in the shape of texas, the upper part, we saw some snow and down into the low country, it's cold, but it's nothing to complain about. we thank god to live in a great state like south carolina. neil: my son goes to clemson, senator. >> my goodness. neil: and surprisingly cold. and we'll see what happens. and senator, let me get your take on this, let me get your take on where this whole stimulus measure stands. at least the job, the hike in the minimum wage, it might come in the future, but it's not going to be part of this. that issue, it's going to be a reconciliation measure. i'm told it can't be part of this. what's the truth on that, do you know? >> well, there's the byrd rule that, the vehicle reconciliation can only be used in a very focused way and only it can be used once every cycle. so there's a couple of reconciliation packages out there that they may have access to, but bottom line is simply this, that i'm encouraged because i'm hearing my friends on the other side of the aisle talk from a place of common sense. increasing the minimum wage when you already have nearly 11 million americans out of work. why would you kill another two to four million more jobs? in other words, we're finally getting to a place where we're recognizing that increasing costs on employers reduces the number of employees in the marketplace. that is great news for the workers of america today and remember, neil, this is something that we typically miss. 1% of adults make the minimum wage and about-- a significant part of those folks earn tips and other bonuses that takes them beyond even $15 an hour. i sat down with restaurant workers this week, just to have a conversation about what the minimum wage would do to them. the employees said there would be a reduction in what they bring home, not an increase. so, there's a very mixed bag and i'm glad to see that we're trying to push that conversation to after the pandemic so we can really study the numbers. i think we all should be for increasing the minimum wage. i think the best way to do that, however, is through the market. the lower the unemployment, the higher the pressure on wages and that's why you saw over the last four years increases in the minimum wage, increases in the entry level wages grew faster than at the top. nearly 5% increase over the last couple of years at the bottom. that's great news for entry level workers and that's where we should target our relief. neil: and indeed, this past week, walmart announced it's going to hike the minimum wage for-- and many of them over $15. and having said that what do you think of your colleagues, mitt romney and tom cotton open to raising the minimum wage, with caveats, leaving out illegal immigrants and the rest obvious. what do you make of that? >> three positive points. number one, e-verify is a way to make sure that the american workers are at a positive advantage and number two, waiting until after the pandemic and number three, slowing the growth of the minimum wage over a longer period of time and not going to $15 an hour, going to 10 or $11. it's at least a place to start the discussion. i'm open to the discussion. i am a free market guy. i believe that the free enterprise system actually increases wages faster. if you look back 2014, 2015, there was a major discussion around raising the minimum wage to $9 an hour. what happened? mcdonald's, walmart, target all went to $11 an hour because they saw the employment opportunities in the marketplace becoming tighter. so we have fewer employees for the job open. there was a time when we had seven million open jobs and only 6.7 million people looking for work. that puts more pressure on the wages and that kind of pressure is what we're looking at in the third and quarter fourth quarter of this year. i think we should pay attention to the market before we artificially and arbitrarily increase the minimum wage to a place that it shutters jobs, it lowers hours, it eliminates benefits. you're putting people in precarious position. the net loss, $9 billion of loss income according to a study inafter increasing the minimum wage. neil: and i'd be remiss if i didn't talk about in-fighting in the republican party and what the former president said about mitch mcconnell and mitch mcconnell said about the former president. it's like hatfields and mccoys. where are you in this? >> i'm like the average person who is afraid of socialism. and the road to socialism goes through the divided republican party. we do not have enough bandwidth to divide our party and stopping socialism. if you look at the far left, the end of the keystone pipeline, which just occurred, 10,000 jobs. talking about the paris accord, russia a 50% increase in emissions, gives china no factual increase in emission, they can increase forever and we have 20% reduction. neil: and you're right on all this, but the divisiveness remains. the former president talked about primary challenges for all of those who voted for impeachment in the house republicans to do the same for senators who did. there are few who are not opting for reelection anyway so it doesn't affect them. are you worried if he follows through on that? >> neil, i think you -- everybody should be worried if the president decides the primary, john thune, mitch mcconnell, but what's more concerning is that the fissures if our party creates a path to socialism, i think that's a unifying message to the republican party and 2020 election taught us one thing, the average voter in america is right of center. they celebrate those perspectives and we need our party to focus on principles that undergird the success of the american economy and american worker and hopes and dreams of kids growing up in impoverished areas and we should stop thinking red and blue and start thinking red, white and blue. neil: and do you still support mitch mcconnell leading republicans in the senate? >> oh, of course. mitch mcconnell worked with the president to deliver tax reform that lowered taxes for a single mom on the federal level by 70%. our policy positions were created by a coalition between president trump and frankly, senator mcconnell. i will tell you this, they're going to have more spats, but in the end, they're going to come together because we all believe it's our responsibility to protect the future of america not the current generation, but for the future generations. that requires for us to have our spats, and get along at the same time. one precedes the other of course. neil: you're talking about when the guy coming from a large italian family, sometimes easier said than done, senator. good to see you. >> sounds like thanksgiving at the scott family. neil: we'll see what clemson does next year. >> right. neil: senator, thank you very, very much. >> yes, sir, have a good one. neil: in the meantime here you've heard a lot of criticism, a whole ton of it of andrew cuomo's handling of the nursing home death count and the rest you rarely hear it from democrats and you rarely hear what happens to democrats who challenge the governor on this issue. meet one who is alive to tell about it and boy, is he angry. ♪♪ it's velveeta shells & cheese versus the other guys. ♪♪ clearly, velveeta 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a lot of the claims. this is happening not only in albany, new york, but now in washington d.c. and the investigations are piling up as are the calls for the governor to maybe relinquish his control related to anything of a covid response. >> hi, good morning, neil. we know that the governor is not one to back down from a fight and yesterday he spent his daily briefing talking about the media and toxic politics, blaming those two things for spreading lies. listen. >> if you're lying to the people of the state of new york, i'm going to call it out. if you are lying in a report, i'm going to call it out. >> this battle now has turned into a bipartisan battle. assemblyman ron kent, the loud he is critic told a podcast virtually allstate republicans and up to 30 democrats are now on board with an impeachment inquiry. kim is among a group of democrats who want to strip him of powers, accusing him of injustice. and the fbi and others are looking into the handling of the crisis and nine u.s. senators are now demanding public hearings with even far left new york congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez now joining their calls for a full investigation. all of this really surrounds two key issues, neil. a march 25th order to allow sick patients back into nursing homes, and then accusations of a coverup after cuomo's top aide reveals the administration did stall the release of data on nursing home deaths over fears of political backlash. now, new york's health commissioner yesterday defended the policy saying that he would make the same decisions again, including that march 25th directive, but a new study by watchdog group the empire center says that order did lead to several hundred possibly more than a thousand deaths in all of this. now, today, we haven't heard anything yet from governor cuomo. sometimes he holds a briefing on saturday, sometimes not so we'll have to wait and see if he says anything today. neil. neil: i do know that he's trying to pivot to other things, restaurants up to 35% capacity now and sort of go, keep the focus away from whatever the count controversy was with the nursing home, but a number of democrats say that that isn't going to fly. >> yeah, there is some positive news coming out of new york city and the state of new york. cases are down and the rates are going in the right direction. so, yeah, we have seen these press releases coming out on the daily about the positives and what's happening and obviously, increasing the vaccinations. so they have been trying to shift the focus on the positive of what's happening in the state instead of talking about this, but it comes up all the time, reporters bring it up during those daily briefings. neil: i'll bet they do. thank you very much, aishah hasnie. and looking at the governor challenging whether he was being honest with the nursing home deaths. he's here. he's next. oh i got to tell everyone. hey, rita! you now earn 3% on dining, including takeout! bon appetit. hey kim, you 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office has gone to a great exhaustive study on this that the governor underreported nursing homes as a result of covid, and we'll get into some of the particulars in a second. now to the gentleman to whom the governor was referring. a new york state assemblyman, a democrat. and i believe he called him an abuser. what did you mean when you called him an abuser. >> well, the governor has abused his power. he has a pattern of abusive behavior. he has abused me and my family by calling me and threatening my career in front of my kids, in front of my wife, so we need to-- we must hold him accountable not just for his abusive behavior, but his abuse of power. that's what's at stake right now. neil: he said he did not misrepresent himself or certainly lie about these counts in nursing homes. do you think he did? >> i believe his top aide had accidentally told the truth of the coverup, that they purposely hid life and death information from the department of justice in fear that that information could be weaponized against him. now, there's a web of lies and excuses why they couldn't provide information, but sooner or later, the truth will come out and that's what's happening now and everything is unravelling and he's shaken and he's trying to rope everyone in, including the senate, including the assembly. as many elected officials as possible. instead of telling the truth to the 15,000 families who lost loved ones in the last 10 months in our nursing home facilities. neil: when you made these comments, assemblyman, to talk about these and criticize the governor, did he call you after that? could you explain what happened after that? >> right. so i was in a private meeting the day before, on wednesday, with his top aide and commissioner and a number of other top aides in a two-hour private meeting they're trying to give us excuses why they couldn't provide information. in the middle of that meeting, after my colleagues were asking tough questions, the top secretary, melissa derosa said you want the truth, well, this is the truth and then she just let us have it, that donald trump was playing politics and we didn't know what to do. we froze, so we didn't want to give the department of justice because it was going to be used against him. mind you, i am a very progressive democrat. i don't agree 99.9% of the stuff that donald trump did, but if the department of justice is asking for information, you have to provide. it doesn't mean i can't-- i'm not going to provide this because a judge is mean to me. it doesn't pass the legal test so that's what she admitted in that meeting. the moment she did that, she implicated us in that room, not only the lawmakers, but the senate, the assembly, the institution. now it's no longer about me in that room or individuals, but about us-- >> in that phone call with the governor. that phone call with the governor, just to be clear, was about you. you charge that the governor said he could destroy you, what else did he say. >> right, following the meeting the next day when the news broke of that admittance of the coverup, the governor called later in the night, middle of the evening around 8:00 berating me for 10 minutes threatening my career, ordering me to issue a new statement that he can use to cover up for his top aide. you know, and i don't want to go into too much of the details, it was a 10 minute shouting match from the governor. neil: he said you misrepresented him and that we've reached out to the governor, and he refused our calls, but i believe he said you were unfair and misrepresenting what he was saying and what he it came to the deaths and what really happened. what did you say, how did he kind of express that to you. >> that conversation was him trying to intimidate and threaten me and he didn't mince his words. he was going to ruin my career if i didn't issue a statement-- >> how was he going to ruin it? what did he say he was going to ruin it? >> he laid out how he was going to come out to the public and tell everyone how bad of a human being i am and it would ruin my career, i mean, the way he presented himself -- it left my wife in tears for two hours. he left an indelible mark on my family. it was a direct threat, if i did not issue a statement that he can use to cover up for his top aide. and he at one point, i will tell you, neil, he did say who do you think you are? well, i am the chair of the committee on aging in the new york state assembly. it's my job to protect older adults. i shouldn't be threatened for doing my job and that is exactly what's happening here. neil: you lost your uncle to covid and i'm wondering, did you relay that, i have a personal interest in this, governor? did you try to calm him down? did you have any follow-up calls? what? >> that phone call was a one-sided conversation. following that call, he made multiple attempts on the weekend, a total of eight phone calls between him and his top aides against me. i felt harassed and at that point i sought a lawyer and i retained an attorney. i told them if you want to talk to me about this issue going forward you can talk to my counsel. a number of times i told the administration including in that private meeting there are a number of policies that you got wrong the last 10 months and you need to own up to your mistakes, issue a public apology, create a victim's compensation fund for families who lost loved one. repeal that stupid legal immunity that gave the worst nursing homes the get out of jail free card and a number of policies we should be working on to fix what he did. but they're not interested in fixing it, they're interested in shutting me down. neil: i'm sorry, the follow-up calls, did he leave any messages to either apologize, i got a little hotheaded or anything like that? or he clearly wanted to talk to you again and you clearly did not want to talk to him. do you want to now? >> i did not -- i did not speak to him after that. the message, the voice mails, it was just, his staff at that point trying to get me on the phone with the governor and i did not have any follow-up conversation after that. neil: all right. some of your colleagues want to begin impeachment proceedings against him. are you for that? >> i believe we have a number of meetings coming up on monday. i believe impeachment must be a part of that discussion. a number of colleagues throughout this week have reached out to me that that's where they want to take this. my role in this, as a chair of the aging, is to fix the wrong policies. neil, i know we want to talk about cuomo and what he's done, but let's not forget we still have older adults in these facilities who actually survived covid who are suffering with health care costs they need help with, so that's where we should be focusing. at least my role in this space. make sure they get the policies right and help those older adults. neil: you said a minimum you should remove the emergency powers the governor was granted to handle covid in new york. do you still stand by that? >> yes. we sent out a-- nine of my colleagues sent out a memo on monday after his press conference. when he continued to just rope us in and tried to rope us in into his web of lies, at that point i knew that he wasn't going to listen. he's not going to collaborate with the legislature and we sent out a memo for immediate rescinding of his powers and in that memo signaled we should be exploring impeachment process to hold this executive accountable, but it wasn't about the governor, it was about the protecting the integrity of the assembly and senate. neil: if he were to run in 2022 and he emerges the nominee, would you support him? >> i don't -- i can't see myself supporting him for anything politically at this point. neil: assemblyman, thank you very much. ron kim, the new york state assemblyman who has challenged the governor in more ways than one. we'll watch what happens. assemblyman, thank you for taking the time. again i want to stress we did reach out to governor cuomo and his office, we have not heard back. we don't bite, want to be fair to everybody. this issue is not going away. more after this. when you drive this smooth, you save with allstate the future of auto insurance is here you've never been in better hands allstate click or call for a quote today at t-mobile, we have a plan built just for customers 55 and up. saving 50% vs. other carriers allstate with 2 unlimited lines for less than $30 each. call 1-800-t-mobile or go to t-mobile.com/55. >> all right. already getting a lot of e-mails and comments on my chat with ron kim, the new york state democratic assemblyman who had some words with the governor of new york over this whole nursing home, assisted living, the high death count that the governor insists he had nothing to do with defeating or underreporting, that the deaths are the deaths. but of course, it did cause some nastiness and nasty phone calls are just the tipping of what some say could be a huge story that launched investigations, the justice department, the fbi all looking into this. the impact right now especially ironically when we're seeing improvement on the covid front across the country, including in new york where, by the way, they're allowing more indoor dining extensions. the 35% for 25%. and dan back with us, rebecca walters, erin gibbs. dan, this is a crisis of the governor's making and taking this personally as he has, i get that at some level, but it seems to be boomeranging within his own party. i'm wondering what your thoughts are and where this is going. >> neil, i never really understood the logic of having people with covid moving in or being treated in senior facilities. i don't know what was behind that. it didn't make sense, but in this particular case, which we see many times, it's actually not about the crime anymore, it's about the coverup. so even if we say whether it was governor cuomo and there are some other states who have that issue, in new jersey as well, was it the right thing to do? let's assume they thought it was, but in cuomo's case it comes down to the coverup and that's what this is all about. neil: you know, rebecca, there are many, many times when the criticism for donald trump getting in your face or publicly tweeting horrific things about those who dared challenge them and gets a lot of media coverage, probably as it should, not so much in new york although it's been getting more coverage of late with governor cuomo. what do you make of that? >> it's disappointing. it seems to be a double standard, let's hold all of one side of the aisle very accountable and the other side of the aisle if somebody within your own party speaks up san says something doesn't go right, we're all accountable and they're accountable to the people that they represent. it's not good to see anybody questioning, questioning anybody who is questioning what happened during the pandemic to get to the bottom of it. there has to be accountability on everybody's part, neil. neil: you know, erin, the irony of all of this, things are improving on the covid front. tragic deaths notwithstanding, the number of cases, hospitalizations and even the news on the vaccine front, even though millions of doses were delayed because of the weather. new york as well had to suffer through that. but the fact of the matter is, the trend really is, you know, the american people and i would say by extent, the governor's friends, if he could acknowledge in this particular case, saying that generously he could have been more forthright and move on. >> as dan said it's a lack of transparency. new york and a lot of these cities were the first hit. they were largely working blindly, you know, they were the ones that were still trying to deal with it and didn't fully understand the virus so being transparent and making a mistake, people might be more willing to forgive him. trying to cover up and not answering questions and a general lack of transparency causes a lot of bigger questions out there. neil: you know, dan, i was noting there was an editorial in today's new york daily news that did fault the governor for clumsily handling the situation, but caution people who are all over, right now, some belatedly so that this, too, shall pass, that the governor has taking political body blows in the past and survived it and gone on to, you know, here he is in the middle of his third term seems to be gunning for a fourth term, and that we shouldn't be singing his political death right now. what do you think of that? >> well, there's-- look, in politics, neil, there is always so much uncertainty about what will happen in the future and between now and when the next gubernatorial election is going to take place is a lifetime in politics. what i think is different here though, neil, is he has members of his own party, fellow democrats that are coming after him and coming after him hard and i think that's very, very problematic when you have members of your party breaking rank to come after the leader of the party in the state. neil: you know, rebecca, is there any sense you have this device beyond the democratic party in the state of new york or a one-off. it's happening in new york where there was a unique nursing home phenomenon as people have been talking about long before it got currency in the major media and that it's not an indictment on the national democratic party or is it? >> you know, i don't know if it's a national democratic indictment, but i will say there have been a lot of things that happened in the last 18 months and specifically the last 12 months with the virus and we, the american people, live in a free democracy republic. we have the right to ask our elected leaders what's going on and hold them accountable. so it's just like erin said, if you made a mistake, own it and move on, but the covering up or the not discussing, telling us something-- it's something we shouldn't discuss, the american people, wait a minute, time out we need accountability and it's going to be against republicans and democrats. neil: guys, i want to thank you all very, very much. and if you're going to go off donald trump with threatening language, fair and balanced, you should go after another even if they're from another party. and we'll go from the political frosty kind of conditions to the real weather conditions. that's at least that aren't nearly as bad as they were. my retirement plan with voya keeps me moving forward. they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter... she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement... ...they're with me all the way through it. voya. be confident to and through retirement. wanna build a gaming business that breaks the internet? that means working night and day... ...and delegating to an experienced live bookkeeper for peace of mind. your books are all 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virginia, now the front has moved off shore, and even exiting down across florida. so cooler air tempt rarely and we've been seeing record breaking high temperatures in florida, the only spot in the country with that. and we'll watch cool weather today kind after brisk day across the northeast and lake effect snow still as well and a bit breezy out there. temps barely above 30 for everybody. so a really rough day here, but obviously, the worst of what we've dealt with has been across the areas of the south and the northern plains. and feels like zero around the northern plains, you can handle that, it's places that get that kind of weather. down across texas, you're barely above freezing right now. 18 is what it feels likes in oklahoma city, a place that has seen a lot of snow and brutal temperatures as well. really oklahoma into texas, arkansas and louisiana has been the bullseye of the abnormally cold weather. tonight everybody above freezing. we won't get the hard freeze the first in a week. monday night, sunday night into monday morning, another little bit of a system comes through, drops temperatures again down. don't worry, it's a brief cooldown. take a look at what happens in houston over the next few days. by tomorrow above average temperatures, 72 degrees, a beautiful day after all of the cold weather even across parts of southeast texas. wednesday you're back up to 73 again. the same goes for dallas. we've got temperatures that are going to be warming up into the 50's tomorrow and by monday, tuesday, wednesday, we've got temps right around where you typically would be this time of year. that pattern sticks with us. i want to show you this, fargo for tomorrow. 35 degrees, that's well above your average. we go into temps across the far northern plains well above average this time of year and in general a calmer pattern and no significant sustained cold weather across the lower 48 at least in the foreseeable future so we have to be thankful for. a lot of work ahead across parts of the south at least the weather is breaking, neil. neil: all right, that's good news to hear and anyway, reichmuth, eventually you'll be wrong and i'll catch you when you are? >> i haven't caught it yet. and including those guardsmen around washington d.c. and hanging around the capitol for a few more weeks, few more months, no one seems to be answering that after this. we made usaa insurance for members like kate. a former army medic, made of the flexibility to handle whatever monday has in store and tackle four things at once. so when her car got hit, she didn't worry. she simply filed a claim on her usaa app and said... i got this. usaa insurance is made the way kate needs it - easy. she can even pick her payment plan so it's easy on her budget and her life. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. usaa. >> i mean, you know, neil, the pentagon is a planning organization, that's what we do. we plan for all kinds of contingencies that actually don't ever happen and so there was some internal discussions about, well, what if we need today keep them longer, what would that look like? that's what we're expected to do. we're expected to be ready to answer those kinds of questions, but right now, neil, the plan is mid march to end this mission. neil: the pentagon is saying mid march to end the mission of troops still in the nation's capitol. we don't know how many troops that will be. lt. colonel, the best selling author, bob mcinnis. i worry when troops stick around that authorities seem to know more than they're letting on and i'm maybe being a bit paranoid, but what do you think of this? >> it's hard to tell, neil. you know, perhaps there's something behind this. could be a highly classified threat, you know. there were some pipe bombs found earlier on before the january 6th event. you know, perhaps there's a biological threat. everybody is obviously, you know, concerned about the pandemic. there could be just a political message here, but whatever, there were 25,000, there are now 6,000. you know, d.c. has 3,000 troops. my concern, neil, years ago i was in baghdad in the green zone and it had the same razor wire concertina around those buildings and plenty of troops with arms. it was a locked down area, why does the people's house have to be, even today, you know, where there's no discernible threat, why does it have to be locked down like that. it send the wrong message and obviously, a bunch of congressmen have asked ms. pelosi to take down that wall. neil: you know, you talk about troops there and maybe john kirby is right, house spokesman that they'll leave and a moot point. the president on the virtual meeting he talked the troops will stay in germany, not going to dial them down. they will stay in japan, not dial them down. where do you think about some of his early calls on supposedly where our troops will remain? >> i know secretary austin has put together a review and the president has endorsed that when he was there at the pentagon a couple of weeks back. we're reconsidering what are our threats. is it just russia and china or, you know, is there something from islamic radicals? is north korea, iran, you know, considered a true existential threat against us? hard to know. what the president is saying by keeping the troops in germany is that the instability created by the likes of those in moscow has the, you know, our allies in the east especially, the poles, latvians, ukrainians, and we're rolling in and out brigades of heavy armor. this is a tenuous time. we have partners and allies concerned about the instability, but i still think and i think that mr. biden is correct. basically he has embraced much of what the trump administration said about china and that is, it is our true existential threat in this world today. neil: indeed. that's one thing which he agrees with his predecessor on, china remains a serious, credible real threat. colonel, thank you very much. and more importantly, 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