stengal who worked in obama's state department and former editor of "time" magazine and waneta from america's network action fund. of the many quotes we just heard from the president, one of my favorites is 60%, 70%, somebody told me 78%. something in there. but your headline reads recession can doom's trump's re-election. are the folks inside the white house axios is quoting right to be worried right now? >> the short answer is yes. and it's not surprising to see some of the leaks like in the axios story. i went through a history of presidents who had to run for re-election after recessions happened in the last two years of their first term. what i found was the last four presidents who had that kind of recession so shortly before their re-election race all lost re-election. of the last nine presidents who didn't have that kind of recession, all of them won.