"the wall street journal report"ed that trump is telling his associates stop calling john kelly. all nick ayers. he's my guy. i heard he was instrumental in the advice. he and emmitt flood on the selection of mr. barr for attorney general. he's already a player in the inner circle. do they feel he's the horse they can ride to sort of calmer waters or is he someone who the lights are on him, that's a high-profile job in washington, d.c., one of the most powerful jobs in that city. is he someone they know where all the bodies are buried with him? >> it's unclear. nick ayers is the vice president's chief of staff. a hard-charging young political operative. the reason the president is interested in him in potentially being a replacement for john kelly, and this has been rumored for several months is nick ayers has a sharp political antenna. a campaign operative. this is a white house shifting quick three campaign foot with the 2020 re-election campaign going to be kicking off soon.

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