of this farmland are getting murdered by blacks because they -- it's a racist thing and it's a hate-filled crime, not entirely correct and not so easy to define, right, greg? >> exactly. south africa has a terrible crime problem. its victims are black and white, urban and rural. south african farmers, as the few people in rural areas who do have resources, they tend to have cash and guns and cars, are therefore a target. and so, yes, they are victims of crime. but it seems that it is very prosaic criminal actions rather than any sort of racially based attacks in the main. >> so, what's the president doing here? >> well, i think he's doing what he does often in these united states, and that is, he's trying to distract from this cloud that he's now clearly under with the manafort convictions and with the michael cohen taking a plea. he goes to race and what better

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