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dardenel, a former contestant on the apprentice and a democratic operative. you've lived many lives. >> yes. >> and there you are. >> there i am. >> when you look at this and cohen's involvement in the trump organization, what do you see as key in this fight. >> i think what's going to be key in this fight for trump is all about the pr, all about the spin, all about the deny, deflect, attack. as far as cohen is concerned he's going to have to be very careful, because i'm not a lawyer like you, but i think we all know when you are under a criminal investigation yourself and you're seeking to be a cooperating witness, the last thing you want to be doing is talking. any good lawyer will tell you to keep your mouth shut. what cohen clearly wants to do is he wants to go head on at donald trump. he is a man, i've said this before, and some people doubted me on this, he's a man that's been sending smoke signals to donald trump for the past several weeks. those smoke signals went unrequited.

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