The days biggest political and news stories, with interviews and reporting from around the nation. Charge of an investigation and a guy who is the subject of an investigation that just got more profound. We have to preface everything, ari, with if the account from Michael Cohen is true, blah, blah, blah. So if the account is true, it is a tremendous change in the landscape. What it does is show us two things. One, that donald trump, from the very beginning, was in on an attempt at collusion, an attempt to conspire with a plot that was described to donald trump jr. As a secret operation by the kremlin to help trump. So if trump knows about that from the very beginning, and is in on it, i think that has a lot of legal, but even more so, political implications. Plus if hes told about this, and even if nothing came out of the meeting, remember throughout the whole campaign and up to now he keeps denying or dismissing the russian operation. Could have been a 400pound guy in a basement. The
dardenel, a former contestant on the apprentice and a democratic operative. you ve lived many lives. yes. and there you are. there i am. when you look at this and cohen s involvement in the trump organization, what do you see as key in this fight. i think what s going to be key in this fight for trump is all about the pr, all about the spin, all about the deny, deflect, attack. as far as cohen is concerned he s going to have to be very careful, because i m not a lawyer like you, but i think we all know when you are under a criminal investigation yourself and you re seeking to be a cooperating witness, the last thing you want to be doing is talking. any good lawyer will tell you to keep your mouth shut. what cohen clearly wants to do is he wants to go head on at donald trump. he is a man, i ve said this before, and some people doubted me on this, he s a man that s been sending smoke signals to donald trump for the past several weeks. those smoke signals went unrequited.
that s the overriding issue. i think michael cohen was one of those people. one of the things that trump is notorious for is not paying people. what he tells the people that he does not pay is that just use my name. tell people you did work for me. that s the value. you re alleging that he tells people to say my name? say my name, say my name. say my name, say my name, say my name. that s right. well, you know, we re doing an awkward montage later in the show, but i wanted to have some you wanted to get it out there early. do some of it live. it s still a live show tonight. tara, thank you for bringing your experience and insights here. now i bring in michael avenatti, attorney for touchdown and a rumored iowa visitor. why are you going to iowa? it s not my first visit to iowa, ari, as you know. i grew up in the show me state of missouri. i m going to our neighbor to the north. i know people who grew up in missouri but aren t going to iowa.
that he s not strong. he s weak. it s odd to say this, but when he said that he would stand up for the president, i knew from talking with him for less than five minutes that he was sufficiently weak, that he would cave in with respect to any wrongdoing. meanwhile, trump s current lawyer is reversing his past praise of cohen. he doesn t have any incriminating evidence about the president or himself. the man is an honest, honorable lawyer. i expected something like this from cohen. he s been lying all week. or for he s been lying for years. there s nobody that i know that knows him that hasn t warned me that if his back is up against the wall, he ll lie like crazy. he s lied all his life. in a moment i m joined live by michael avenatti about all of this. first, how does this battle go down when all of it can involve the trump organization, the history of the apprentice? before that, i bring in tara