comment to the press while both women were standing before the president. as "the new york times" describes tonight, tensions between the two had reached a point where ms. sadler and ms. schlapp were unable to be in the same room together. that's a problem. back with us tonight, two of our longtime contributors. eli stokols, who we are so happy to say is now a white house reporter for "the los angeles times." and anita kumar, who remains white house correspondent for mcclatchy newspapers. welcome, gang. eli, what does this episode either reveal or reaffirm to you about the operations of the trump white house? >> well, that reporting is right, that this is not about what she said, and it's never been about what she said. from the moment that comment was reported, the white house response was the problem is leaking. it's leaking, and we need to clean that up. now you have this internal personnel dispute, and it's led to kelly sadler being let go from that position.