to make shopping small, huge. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. interviewing is an art, and it's hard. how can you really get to know if someone is the right fit for your company by just asking them a few questions? in my company, we have a rule that we always interview everyone three times in three different locations, because you can learn something completely different sitting across the desk from someone than you can by grabbing a coffee with them at a cafe. katherine is an expert at how to conduct the perfect interview. she is the founder and ceo of the muse, a career platform and job discovery tool. great to see you. >> it's great to be here. >> you think interviewing is so easy, right? someone comes in, you see if you like them. but it's the hardest thing to do. >> all of the attention son job seeker, what should they do. but it's really important as an