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we deal with this every day to find a solution. and actually i think it's very refreshing to see a politician is willing to say i don't know. if you look where the t immigration reform has gone in 20 years, nowhere, a lot of politicians don't know. they have no idea what a solution is. we haven't found one. we need a debate and talk it over. >> tucker: i'm totally foror that. i actually do agree with you. >> sounds like you support him there.ne >> tucker: i support being honest about not knowing. >> be honest. >> tucker: try harder. let me asking something i don't know the answer to. i'm not being mean. i'm sincere. in the last election you had irish catholic guy with hispanic nickname running against actual hispanic guy with an angloh name. does that seem weird, audacious? >> ted cruz tried to make the point as well and texans got every it quickly. >> tucker: it's a real point. >> it's not a real point. the point is moot. it's something to joke aboutea for a minute. >> tucker: okay. >> the nickname growing up. people call ted cruz "ted." and it's not, not something people care about. people care about real issues. >> tucker: i asked about

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