supreme court had the opportunity to stay the ten-rounds law and the opinion did not. that's all we heard from the united states supreme court on the ammunition. so finally, i think they need to step up and clarify this for the nation. >> quickly, do you think they will? because they've turned away a lot of appeals. they're treating the second amendment like a second-rate or second-tier constitutional right. it should be on par with all the rest of them. >> that's right. the supreme court hasn't taken up any case since heller in '08 and one in 2010. i think if we're looking at potentially changing membership on the u.s. supreme court, that may break the law jam. >> we'll be standing by. all right, david and ken, thank you both very much.