president saying we are going to fight to win matt, the next day secretary taylors and says that we are going to bring in the taliban to negotiating table, a fundamental problem here is that in this new plan or any other plan no one has really defined the instinct. we need to go, what's the real objective? until you do that, how on earth do you plan? i think we are at sixes and sevens all over the place, but that said, the president made some very good points reinforced by secretary taylors in. pakistan has a was been courted this problem is that some of the pakistani military but i'm not totally ignorant of them. but i will tell you, they are incontestability suckered, harbored, trained, armed. other terrorists who have killed americans in afghanistan. anyone who doesn't believe that pakistani intelligence services harbored bin laden who lives in a dream world. >> eric: they've been riddled with taliban's appetizers. he just mentioned the endgame.

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