president saying we are going to fight to win matt, the next day secretary taylors and says that we are going to bring in the taliban to negotiating table, a fundamental problem here is that in this new plan or any other plan no one has really defined the instinct. we need to go, what s the real objective? until you do that, how on earth do you plan? i think we are at sixes and sevens all over the place, but that said, the president made some very good points reinforced by secretary taylors in. pakistan has a was been courted this problem is that some of the pakistani military but i m not totally ignorant of them. but i will tell you, they are incontestability suckered, harbored, trained, armed. other terrorists who have killed americans in afghanistan. anyone who doesn t believe that pakistani intelligence services harbored bin laden who lives in a dream world. eric: they ve been riddled with taliban s appetizers. he just mentioned the endgame.