worse. >> in january '09 compared to now, i think that the number of african americans that were losing their jobs was substantially higher. >> bill: the unemployment rate has doubled of white america. it's doubled. there's no improvement there. >> it hasn't doubled since obama took office. >> bill: no. but it hasn't improved. the word is, it hasn't improved. >> wait a minute. you said doubled. now improved. >> bill: no, no. >> the employment rate has improved. >> bill: what's the matter with you carville today? the black unemployment rate is double that of whites, and hasn't improved under president obama's administration. >> oh, okay. when he took office, again, when you look -- we can argue, this but i agree completely that the -- that we had a recession that was very nasty caused by risk taking and leverage. these things take a long time to crawl out of. >> bill: all right. i would like to see a strategy. see you're a sports fan. you got the saints helmet behind you. all right? when the new coach comes in, says i'm going to turn it around, we're going to be