attempt to kick the can down the road hoping the controversy will settle down and they can do what they announced they would do from the beginning. which is completely objectionable to us. >>neil: an area where i see a big loophole and concern for you, those catholic institutions, or others, that areful -- are self-insurers and a lot of insurance companies did not welcome the profession because they did not see it coming, but self insured catholic institutions and other institutions face this moral question all over again. right? >>guest: that is connect. a good number of our catholic diocese are self-insured and there is no relief provided in the so-called "compromise." at the same time, too, we want to advocate for all involved in this, and that extends beyond catholics and beyond religious