say because you're a banker and this guy, he's got to get a lower rate. it's ridiculous, i know it's a situation here when you can't refinance and underwater, but it's not the bank stocks recommended on the show, and the presidents ruined the stock picks this year. >> mr. empathy. >> brenda: there we go. thanks, guys, and thank you to susan for joining us. okay. get your game day gear on for the the bulls and bears stock super bowl. the guys name the winning stock, and the winning team, and check this out. they've never been wrong about picking the champion, not once. ♪ ♪ you and me and the big old tree ♪ ♪ side by side, e, two, three ♪ ♪ counthe birds in the big o tree ♪ ♪ la la la [ male announcer ] the inspiring story of how shipping giant can befriend a forest may seem like the stuff of fairy tales. ♪