from reading the book it seems to me you are glad you are out of it? >> i am. awfully nice to be back at stanford university i have been there 30 years. >> bill: watching the football team go for the national championship. >> i'm a big football fan. one step at a time oregon ducks. >> bill: oregon ducks are tough. >> they are tough. >> bill: it's a fascinating book i appreciate you coming in and taking fire. "no higher honor" a memoir of my time in washington. you should be a no spin dr. rice here and come in and have a chat it wasn't too painful. >> it was great, bill. >> bill: appreciate it john lenin still a big draw. they are now selling his body parts. wait until you hear this story. bernie goldberg analyzing the herman cain madness. cnn in particular going wall-to-wall with that story.