january '09 prediction to claim that the stimulus created those 2.8 million jobs. makes sense? joining me with reaction is wisconsin congressman paul ryan. all right, is this just -- this seems like they willfully, purposefully, have distorted the numbers, to lie to the american people. am i misreading or is this accurate? >> you you are right. i was amazed bernstein and roamer put this out in the first place. they knew they oversold the stimulus. when you make a measurement you have to use the number that you just used. unemployment went above 10%. we lost eight million jobs since the recession started. four million jobs we've lost since the stimulus was passed. they knew that so they had to come up with new statistics to mislead people. >> sean: when you say they knew?