he's said the word spy 17 times since last friday. adam schiff who was at the second meeting said he heard no evidence of a spy in the campaign today. >> there is no evidence to support any allegation that the fbi or any intelligence agency placed a spy in the trump campaign or otherwise failed to follow appropriate procedures and protocols. >> well, cnn's chief political correspondent dana bash joins us now. she's got new reporting on rudy giuliani's takes on the briefings today. i know you talked to giuliani about emmitt flood and how he ended up in the briefings. what did he say? >> that's right. i talked to him a couple of times tonight before coming on. i did ask him if emmitt went to these meetings at the behest of the president or maybe under orders of the president? he says he hasn't told him the answer is yes, but rudy giuliani tells me he assumes that was the reason why flood went, because

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