tax cuts being permanent. and i certainly don't think it's a good idea for us to be sitting here basically two or three weeks from the end of a calendar year and 26 million small businessmen and women and job creators and entrepreneurs having no idea what their tax rate is going to be. i mean, we have a very weak economy. we have the longest and deepest recession in the post world war ii period. the real estate market is still flat on its back. this thing is not over yet. we've got 15 million americans out of work. and what this is, this is showing washington isn't broken and obama can't lead and that's not good for anybody. >> steve, you say this is actually a stimulus plan for obama, and therefore a good plan. >> yeah, i mean, i wouldn't say it's just cause for celebration of the i mean, i don't think -- >> reasonably good plan. >> it's the best plan that he could have gotten under the circumstances. if he would have said halfway through this year, right after