Introduction. I want to mention that cspan is here. Covering this event so were all being videotaped and be able to see it on cspan which is i always find really fascinating so so this program is presented in corporation with lisp fest a Great Organization to check them out online and see other programs you havent already been going to them. The organize percent founder is doing this for a while but sort of a new part of our cinema family and already presented some great, great programs here and were looking forward to a bunch more in the future. So to get the show on the road it gives me great, great pleasure to introduce founder claudia coppering. [applause] thank you. Hi everyone. Im claudia. You know how they say slippery when wet turns its true. Thank you for being here tonight. Im superexcited for this evening this is a long island fest event featuring nelson and conversation with representative steve israel. Yeah its really exciting, and just to fell you a little bit about who i am im founder of long island fest were long island first Literary Festival were now entering our fourth year we usually hold our full day program in the spring, and its a full day of author readings and workshops, and talk and book signings and its really fun and exciting so come to our website for information and other events that we do as well. I want to thank for ho our event and hope to host more of these in the next month so please go to our website sign in and get a new location with information and find out whats going on and what were doing. Website is what you should receive in a copy of your book and before we begin, if you check under your seats and you find an extra bookmark we have a special surprise tonight of cuban fair tshirt to give away to whoever has a bookmark under their seat take a look. Whos got it . All right. Great. Congratulations. Please see me afterwards and well give you your tshirt. And [laughter] just a little bit of housekeeping for those tonight, were going to have a conversation knolled by audience q and a and ask all of the questions you would like and following that there will be a book signed by mr. Demille all of you who want your book signed not personalized please go to the front of the line and youll youll be taken care of really quickly. And a now, it is my pleasure to introduce steve israel currently serves as chair of the Long Island University Global Institute and a University Writer and resident in 2014 israel published satire of washington called global war on mars. Apartmently based in National News during his ten year in congress. His second novel big guns will be published in 2018 by simon, and israel was a member of congress for 16 years and president bill clinton called him one of the most sought members of congress. He served as a regular political commentator in cnn. He graduatessed from George Washington university with a b. A. In Political Science and home is in oyster bay and New York Times best selling author of 20 novels six of which number one New York Times best sellers. Now will include tonights cuban affairs. Radiant angel charmful, the gold coast and general daughters which was made into a major Motion Picture starting John Travolta written book review and articles from magazines and newspapers and nelson was a combat decorated u. S. Army veteran, a member of mens poet and writers in Authors Guild and member in past president of mystery writers of america also a member of the International Thriller writers who honored him in 2015 aside thrill master was year and he also lived on lited with his family. Ladies and gentlemen, it is my honor to introduce to you to representative steve israel, and Nelson Demille. [applause] hello. There you go. Hear me now thank you claudia nobody says im a measure but i want to retest on that. [laughter] but thank you for that. Thank you all for being here. Lets give a big hand to Nelson Demille for his extraordinary writing. [applause] also on the issue of not wanting to be retested you heard claudia kindly repeat bill clintons line of me one of the most thoughtful members of the United States congress have you been watching the United Nations congress . [laughter] [inaudible conversations] nelson. First i want to thank you for being here. One i hardly but i think on favors now this is good tonight. But sheave, i mean, such a generous man, he we have a buddy by the book and one said he was at the party discover israel and speak at his class and congressman israel said yes only if your teacher doesnt give you home work that night and he read are it on a Business Card to o my son who forgets but he remembers not doing homework the night congressman israel speaks to the class. So generous thank you for being here. Lets establish before 25 minute or so confers and q and a we have to ask an important question how many of you have is read the cuban affair . Nobody. Okay. All right because we dont want to give anything away. In this evening so let me get right to the first question this is a by the way extraordinary book heres whats going to happen. Im going to predict youre going to get it tonight. Nelson will sign it. And youre going to ask yourself around christmas and hanukkah well why didnt i get another five signed book for all of my relatives so after this get your book and then go to the book review and buy more. [laughter] because this is a book and fans dont want to miss. This is not just a book about risk. Its actually i thought a risky book because you basically retired the character of john court. He was so john he was making money for you as the author making money for your publisher. People were comfortable with him and now you invent a entirely new character decidedly different i think from cory, and put him in a new setting how much of a risk was it for you to depart from john cory . Well you know you publish and you know how they operate. They want you to do the same thing every time same time as working. But i door after 30 maybe 35 years with my prier publisher, i finally left and my first book they kind of surprised me i thought therm actually buying john, of the series because it was doing so well but theyre actually buying me and they said no do is Something Different, and it took me back but i look the idea because that john was starting to get on my nerves a little bit, and i remember that kind of deal Sherlock Holmes absolutely hated Sherlock Holmes so finally killed him. By having him push over the fall in switzerland but the outrage so much of the fans that he had to bring the guy back from the dead an five or six years ago went to the floor you dont survive that but they can survive that fall but that i, the risk was and i dont know if i would have taken it myself thats the big question but publisher was very much behind me with a new character. The point earlier book will stand alone only thing i ever done which was john querrey the first book in the series. But it became a series so i went book to my root system and credit a stand alone book. Dan Mack Mccormick is the main character having read every one of your books and dont give me a quiz on them but having read read every [laughter] congressman peter king has a great line whenever were together he said you know between peter has written three novels. Ive written one and another one coming out and says between Nelson Demille and steve israel we sold 35 million. You dont want to know how equation breaks down but so mack i found him to be a departure from the john cory character he seems more restless and less grounded how difficult was it for you to divorce yourself from this about character and create a new character . Your question too. I mean, the character Mack Mccormick you have to build these guys from the beginning, and mack has one with of the reasons i should back it up and one of the reason are the publisher wanted me to coming up with a new character it was suggest that a lot of my older characters are ready for social security. And medicare and internal crinology of the book even if you looked at it you realize these even john was getting on his, so they scdz me to coming up with somebody they actually dont and only requirement of this guy should be if 35. Which kind of the sweet spot i think in hollywood. And in literature. So 35 years old too young for vietnam and iraq and made him afghan war veteran. In portland maine, and whole thing but one they go to the college, good college, good family, solid family. Went to war second to in afghanistan got wound od came back. Kind of a drift doesnt know what he wants to do with himself this man came from a solid background but world kind of changed so in the book page one we see Mack Mccormick in the green in key west how many have been there. Right thats opening scene and now three years a fishing boat captain and build a fishing boat and west mac and hes got a quarter of a Million Dollar bank loan and things are not going quite right but waiting at the green fair for a customer, with and man named carlos is got a first name carlos is cuban miami lawyer and carlos has a deal for the back. And of course mack turn it down within a book would be three pages long. So does turn it down and in fact first three chapters you have the book now. First three chapters online on my website anybody go to Nelson Demille dment so three chapters for free. So yeah, i had to come up with the man romantic history had his parents the whole thing and world and didnt know any 35yearolds so my son who was 36 when i started writing the book so i called him and he told me about 36yearolds. [laughter] much of which you department want to know. Because it reminded you of you at 36. [laughter] by the way, sunday was an important day. On sunday this book phs number one best seller in New York Times. How about that . How about that . So lets talk about cuba ive been to cuba several years ago. You were there. Why cuba, did you have the idea for the book and then visited cuba or did you visit cuba where you have the idea for the book and tell us about your trip there and how it informed the book. Yeah, good question, i mean, i needed again new publisher, asked me to come up with not only a new character but, obviously, a plot that would you know, be interesting. [laughter] we have ideas that we sit down toy them, but cuba was in the news because Obama Administration opened up cuba. And Political Science major and political junkies so following cuban floor, and a lot of cuban americans this south florida most of miami and down a block from me escaped from castro and revolution and lost everything. So kind of on back of my mind but mostly because it was in the news so im thinking about it. And that was where like early 2015 and then one day, in the mail i get this brochure from the Educational Group my son worked in the conversation. But come to my house [laughter] he doesnt live there but they know where they have my address. I said you know, why not . This is like a son. I should really go to cuba. So i said do you want to go to Cayman Islands i didnt say cuba. So she said yeah, sure. Sounds good but thats not whole story. He was close native john kerry traveled friend of mine and roommate of john kerry at yale they graduated together in 66, and he said do you want to go and it is going to be fun and it was going to be but sounded like it could be fun so let me call harvey a nephew and those of a certain age remember george as a special assistant to john kennedy, and very involved with the invasion and the cuban missile crisis. But you never seen cuba and he wanted to o see where his uncle screwed up. I dont know, i guess. But trip wasnt until october but i realize i have to stop my book and i couldnt wait until october so i began the book then. But the book, you know kind of took shape and didnt come to life until i went to cuba and spent it was 13 to 14 gays there and because of john because of harvey they spoke to john kerry and we got what amounted to a get out of jail free card incase youre ever busted for something, and we carried this wherever we went and jeffrey acting am bees door and kind of interesting. American embassy which as you know attacked by sonic waves, illegal but maybe the hankover, but it was interesting experience. So i think anybody who is going to write a novel needs to go to the place because thats what really inspires you when you feel like youre not a fraughted but youve really done this and thats the way it felt when i wrote about vietnam been there in 67 but 68 and set in moscow and i went there. So you know its good to feel resources as a yir. Writer to go and i finished a book i dont know why but finished and they published it and concern there we are. So potes elapse time from inception to publication was almost two years. What i thought was remark public you spent 10 days in cuba but your but im sorry. Two years. 12 ghast cuba but your description of places in cuba your description of the [inaudible conversations] your description ofs hemmyway house as if you grew up in these places, so how do you pull that off . You were a tore through cuba with with a and may be a spy or spying on spies and spy spying on spies spy of spies. Your dripses were just extraordinary how do you do that . You know, you have to make some of it up. But most of it was accurate but im known in the business for being a stick particular for accuracy and i do my research which is why my books come out every two years opposed to every year. Or so every three months. In fact, i just called Jim Patterson the other day. [laughter] and he said oh, sorry hes writing a book i said thats okay. Ill hold. [laughter] a jock. I didnt realize he writes his own books. What what in cuba did you learn that you would say effected trajectory of the book . You know, you can do i did a lot of Book Research before i got there about april when i proposed the book in october before i went. There were things that really surprised me and you were there. The nightlife how vibrant it was in a countries that was very poor and with a totarianism regime been to eastern europe, and you know, those time grimness about the people but the human people have a lot of life dc the music and art and dance was absolutely fabulous this has not change haded since, you know 1955 but the poverty was almost inpresencable everybody in cuba you probably know this. You do everybody makes 20 a month thats the official salary 20 a month and books that are not food available with the racial books sometimes. And so, you know, theyve fallen back to broader system so it is very primitive almost, and a system of block market. Which is the sub economy had is only thing that keeps people going. So poverty was, you know you know hair about poverty when you see it it is kind of jarring and you know american you feel a little bit guilty. It doesnt have the appearance of a police state. I think he might have felt the same thing one of my characters in the pook like any tropical paradise and police say it is not always apparent but must be careful and this is that question felt that we needed we needed to be careful. Do you foal best selling author driver and cuban authorities did you foal that you were being watched at any point . Not watched but we felt we could be victim of a scam at any point. Theres a lot of scams going on. Or you know when the political winds blow for some way for some reason talking back stage you might know alan gross was arrested in cuba back in 08 he was working for mjo doing communicationwork work in cuba all over the world he was arrested and charged with espionage by the government and spent a year before the trial and tried sentenced to 15 years and spent five years on a cuban jail for nothing. It was totally innocent so i reason i knew, i mean, we were able to read about it. But when it came out of jail he was nice and said thing to the effect publicly that when he was able to get books Nelson Deville books kept him going and i met him in a city but finally met him in washington a couple of weeks ago, and we did a thing in atlanta together. But knowing that story, im soying you know thats what i mean about get out of jail tree but you dont know whats going to work. The fact that im with two guys who are roommates of the secretary of state, you know, i thought maybe that will keep us out of jail or get us in jail. You know, get around behind the scenes what theyre trying to do at moment see the the reels better and make it divorce so thats a place dont want to go like that. Theres a fascinating character in the bock who is youre really familiar to fans of Nelson Demille. He is a best selling author [laughter] who is doing research on cuba. Based on anybody we know . For some reason which i cant why i put myself in the book i have no idea. [laughter] it just seemed you know, whether we know the same that we see the great woman marries rich i give her a shoutout and i thought for sure she would take this out me putting myself into the book, and she thought it was funny and i said maybe i should take it out only reason i did it was because the part of the book has to do with the group that went with. And i put them in the book as kind of a way for mac and you know this wol that hes with to get into cuba kind of undercover because hes a group tour. And made u fun because i was talking about deal requesting tuition from my son you know, and i made merciful some of the things and to make fun of myself a little bit too. And got to even it out. On topic of humor, and having fun, the first novel i did when i sent it to o my agent she sent it back and said, its, its too funny, you have to learn to it shall where it belongs and where. Doesnt. She said this is every paragraph is a punch line the marvel of your books i think is youre able to maintain that pace of wit without distracting from the story. Can you how much of a challenge is that . Yeah, but i had the same criticism from my past not too much they go back and say this was a great job but do i need it here, and you know, americans are funny. So we tend to make fun of things that are, you know, not funny because this is how we get through it and g. I. Humor which i have in some of my books when you are under combat youre under fire you have to make a joke. And some of the jokes i remember from vietnam while were being shot at is hard to believe. Usually you have chance to meet all of the film out in louisiana l and he made platoon which was a great movie and he all of us have been a combat veteran, but he said to me he said one day when i was there, do you think this was accurate . I said you know only thing you left out it was accurate sure. But the g i humor, thats kind of crazy dark humor gallo humor that you need when youre under, you know, under fire under pressure. I remember he said, he said but kind of had it in there at first but nobody would believe it so i left it out and thats the way i felt with my first couple of books. And i just started reading it. I got it, actually, about a week ago. But it is really steve israel, the humor, the sarcasm, the political i dont know political yet, when you read this, you say, i hope its not that its worse than you think. Thats what i was afraid of. Nelson in the few minutes we have left of this conversation, tell us about your writing regimen. Its a wonderful book called orecommending minimum regimen, how artist work. Tell us about your writing regimen. I ask the same question to all authors because i want to know what they do. One gets up at 4 00, 5 00 in the morning, writes until noon and then thats its for the rest of the day. I dont know where i am until noon and i tend to be a night writer. This i how i started writing, when i was working a real job. And i have a an assistant but i have another office a floor above which is just for me, its hidden. I call it area 51. I dont type, and i dont pretend to be able to compose on a keyboard, so i write everything long hand legal paper, number one pen, and i give it to my long suffering assistant who can read my handwriting and she types and it make corrections on the page. Takes me a little bit longer, the logistics are longer but im so comfortable we all learn how to write in the first grade with a pencil and paper, and i havent progressed much since then but it works. You have a concept for the next book . No. I do. What about this. Totalitarian regime, state controlled, sir dangerous, we we coauthor and call the north korean affair. Which one of us will good is a different story. Final question. Youre coming off a relentless schedule of events like this. Can you talk about that process and then well open it up to q a. You know, you do the 11 or 12city tour, lest selling awe authorized complain about it and others wish they could do it because theyre not being asked to do it. I have perspective when i good on the road. I like to see my fans. I mean, the whole you did a tour for your first book. A whole book about the tour. Some of the people who planned this in new york are geographically challenged and think you can be in two places at the same time and 5 00 in the morning, wakeup calls for 6 00 flight, not going to work. Its exciting in a way. Its like youre not a rock star on the road, but on the other hand you are out there and you are seeing cities you might not normally see. I dont want to mention the cities. But you have friends come florida, do five cities in florida and knew people in every city who came to the event. Its good and its bad. But its mostly good. I think having done it, when its done, you feel good you did it because you did everything you could for the book and everything the publisher would want you to do. Ive got another week, and you swear never again, never again. And then next time you do it again. Folks, it is romance, it is intrigue, it is espionage, a new place and a new character, and youre going to separate youre going to want to buy a whole bunch more for friends and relatives. Lets give Nelson Demille a big hand. Were going to open it up to q a. Do we have a microphone or belt it out . All right. Lets give steve a big, big, big hand. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Lets take some questions. Yes, sir. I can repeat. You have i got it. You have a tradition of putting people into your books who then make donations, and you your tradition used to be if they gave you a certain amount, they would be a hero, but if they gave you more, theyd be a villain. Are you continuing that . I usually dont work that way, but i tell you what happened. To raise money for charity i all do this thing called dinner or lunch with Nelson Demille, and i never do lunch, dinners are okay. Most of the time are kind of fun. People are interesting, and they would bid on a Charity Auction and we would raise a lot eye money. Then my wife said, can we just go to dinner with friends once in a while . A great friend said to me, are you crazy and still doing dinner with Nelson Demille . You have to have a new character in the book so you dont have to go to dinner. Just auction off a character in a book. And one of my sons raise more money. People tell you iing at the you the figure 15,000, 16,000 to be a character in a Nelson Demille book, and if you good to charity, i put them in the book, but you have to be careful because you have to sign a waiver, and i say the only thing i can promise you you wont meet a prostitute or a lawyer. We have a question over here. Just finished reading actually listening to the book on audible with scott brick, who does an amazing job an all your books. I guess i shouldnt argue with the author but i really found a lot of john corey or the off the cuff wise guy character in mac that i think is in some of the books. But putting that aside, quick question of fact or not. Truth or not. The 17 american soldiers, is that i still ask. All right. What is the question, then . Is it true . Is it true . You know, it is on the internet. You cant believe everything on the internet. There was a guy named i can remember his name barrigan or something luck that, who testified before congress about american p. O. W. S being in vietnam. Being in cuba. Are you guys going to recognize people or would you like me to do it . Take you right over here, maam. First of all, congressman, we really need you. We miss you. No. Thank you very much. Mr. Demille, i want to ask you a question about im running for congress you that went the question but a that might be good. About one of your earlier books that i remember so vividly, its kind of out of step with the rest of them, wow word of honor. I think of quite often. I think its a wonderful book but nobody i know has read it. So, can you say about the writing how many people have read word of honor . It was written in maybe early 80s, believe, 83, 84, based on it was a vietnam story, and the my lai massacre was in my mind when i wrote it. Actually made into a tv movie for tnt. When nobody ever knew what tnt was, but it was don johnson, and gene triplehorn and a good supporting cast but it was tnt. Before mad men they only had about a hundred viewer. For a long time it was my biggest selling book and first bought by lawyer and then went to tnn. I thought the feature film would bring the book become and i think the book is as reality today as when i wrote it. Its like the cain mutiny, kind of courtmartial. The second or third best books. Breakout book. A breakout book, yes, the first book that actually made the bestseller list. Just out of curiosity, how long did that take . Well trying to think. Host how many books that was my fourth book. So this was three before that, which was my first hard cover novel was by the rivers of babylon, and then the cathedral was 1981, and word of honor was my fourth book and made the bestseller list and got deposit reviews from the New York Times. Forgive me for pointing but other questions. Yes. Right over here, please. Thank you. I just am i on . Yes. I just want to thank you so much for giving us john corey because there are nights when i was just so in love with him. He just had such a great sense of humor, and the books were wonderful. Thank you. Just had to tell you that. Enjoyed him so much and im sad to see he left but its so wonderful you gave it to us. Thank you. If you the last corey book, john is available again. Other questions . Raise your hands. Theres one back there, yes, sir. Do you have any types for aspiring amateur writers in building up the discipline needed to write and also develop the right baseball in maintaining writing in real world demand, like fulltime job and all that . Well, my advice is always take two aspirin and lay down in a dark room and the feeling will pass. Its a tough i did it as a young man, and youre a young man. Holding down a fulltime job. Did it in an apartment in hempstead, unair conditioned, on a kitchen table. With my pencil and paper, and my first wife, who im still friendly with, who still think is owe her because she type all my manuscripts and did a great job. That got me i was able to fully hold down a fulltime job and so was she but i wouldnt recommend that. The writing stuff you have to kind of do what did imjust said one day im not doing this anymore. One other thing thats going to happen, either going to give up the write organize give up the day job and i give up the day job, and it started writing and it made a difference. The writing got better, was in a better mood because i wasnt working 1516 hours a day and also i was able to kind of connect with the business a little better, the publishing industry, and look for an agent. And when i committed to it, things started happening. I got to go on parttime night writer before but and i had to make a decision. Im not saying shoe should quit the day job but you have to decide how serious you are about the writing, sunny. Its why i left congress. Appreciate your kind words but i just i learned that despite to put aside the dysfunction and the screaming and bickering and the bitterness and the fundraising, i just put all that aside. I just my own experience was i learn at a certain point i just loved to write, and i couldnt write unless i freed myself of those constraints. So i took a big risk and announced after 16 years, i wouldnt be returning to congress, so i could devote much more of my time to my craft. Dont know if it will ever be as good as this gentlemans craft, but my own experience is, that my own craft did get better once i was able to really focus on it as my number one priority, both in terms of time, allocation of resources, et cetera. So theres agreement here the best advice we can give you is, just write. Just write. We have a few more minutes for any final questions. Yep . This is a thank you to both of you, to former congressman israel. You went to bat for libraries when we need you, and i hope you continue as an author because your heart is in the bright place. Thank you. And to you, mr. Demille, you are the only author that ever came to my library and, thank you. We cant afford to have authors. You came and you were so gracious and so wonderful to us. Thank you. Thank you. My day job. At that time is was an insurance investigator for Liberty Mutual insurance company. It was interesting, fraud and that type of thing. When i decided to quit the job i thought about writing a and a nl based upon insurance forecast. Never got around today because the business has changed. Its stale great idea. Insurance fraud, regular Insurance Fraud is somebody is trying to screw the insurance company, but the novel was somebody murdered, life insurance, you know, all whole thing. So maybe now im thinking, might be time. Thank you. Question in the back there, please. Hi. Do you think youre born a writer or is your training northern what background did you have to prepare you . Excellent question. How you answer it sounds arrogant. I was probably born a writer. No formal training in writing. Never took a writing course in my life. I used to think that everybody wrote like i did, and then in college, some professors came to me and said you really write well, and one prefer, english literature, i wrote a play for him. He said if you is this original . I like i imaginearized. Said, no, this is grot, im accused of being a plagiarer. So it just it was the bay the mind works. You can train yourself, obviously, but i think most people will say what i said, they just comes naturally. You dont think about it. Never realize i could turn it into an occupation until maybe when i came home from vietnam. I started thinking about writing the Great American war novel, never really got written, but it compelled me into sitting down and actually writing things other than term papers and used to write for some of my superior officers who couldnt give a speech. People were coming to me to ask me to write things for you ump finally sat down in 71 or 72 toe write a novel, and i realize i could do it. Id read all my remember and just remembered what aread and how a storyline, the story unfolds, and the plot unfolds, and sat down and wrote a procedural and got published. Got 1200 bucks for it. Didnt even pay the represent. There is a book you wrote that you werent able to get published that you really regret . No everything i unfortunately everything i have written have been published. The earlier wounds are paper backs. I thick got every one of them burned. Right the beginning, whatever i wrote got published and never started a book and threw it away. Everything is salvageable. You create your own world and can salvage about anything itch have a Good Relationship with editors. I know loot what i can looking for. They know what i can do. This is just natural. Its nothing that you can really teach yourself. I dont want to sound arrogant but i get probably 200 manuscripts a year from people who think that i dont have much to do except read their manuscript. But i like to find young writer, you probably get them, too. Read my manuscript. Read the first ten or so pages and from the first four page outside know its no knowing and the fame louse line in the business is i read your man uscrip and its good and original. Its not i found five or six writer is recommended to publishers. Writers block . Do you have it . No. Never had it. Okay. How about you . Yep. Hes going to bring the microphone over to you. Who is your favorite author and your favorite novel. Great question. Steve israel. Maybe you should run for congress. You have all the skills evidently. I dont have a lot of time to read try reed my contemporaries. Want it to see what theyre doing. Theyre friends. I want to see whats going on with their writing and why they are huge sellers. I do that so busmans holiday. But i read so much nonfiction for research, dont have a lot of time read fix, unfortunately. One thing i miss, i used to love reading but when i sit down to read something to on the beach, i always take an older book ive already read because i dont want to be pleasantly surprise. Ill taking a Agatha Christy or hemingway and i read them again, probably because i love their style and i can learn more from reading that fiction than my peers because i peers all have you dont want to be influenced by your peers. Rather read the old stuff for explore subconsciously also informs your own writing without it being too derivative. If you want to leave everybody with one thought about the book, what would it be . The cube been affair . Yes. Gosh, that was an unexpected question. You already bought it so i can say what i want. Might want to buy another one for the holidays. The reviews have been great. Its four and a half stars on amazon. The reviews i dont care about the reviews usually. Except when theyre bad. But i have seen 15 great reviews, and you dont normally get that kind of consistency. The only review that was snarky was our hometown newspaper. But every review is a professional and yet they all saw Something Different in the book. Wasnt the same kind of review. They liked the book for different reasons, some love the character, some love the geopolitical part of this, some love the romance, chapter 23 is where the sex starts, chapter 23. Usually is these two didnt know each other that well. So, its good thing the reader reviews are important to me because theyre regular readers, people who bought the books, an am so many and barnes noble. Com. And i think everyone gets somebody different out of the book, and something you should know. One modify shortest books one of them is like this, quick read, 12 hours. Scott is my john corey character but one of those dude that goes i think this audio ran about 1213 hours. The cuban affair, youre going love this book. Want to buy more for your friends and family. Ladies and gentlemen, Nelson Demille. [applause] going be a signing and reception in the skyroom cafe. Just go down the hallway. [inaudible discussion] [inaudible conversations] every weekend booktv offers programming focuses on nonfiction authors and books. Keep watching for more here on cspan2, and watch any of our past programs online at book of. Org. Could you recount for us the importance of the blackburn affair and the underground railroad and the role that detroit played. Earlier we had a sculpture see if i can go back to it that ed white, a fantastic sculptor, and he did the one there, the sculpture down at the waterfront where you have these a group of black people looking across the Detroit River, to canada, think its the next one here. Many people have come to detroit and sometimes i guess they scratch their heads. What is that all about . This symbolizes the terminus of the underground railroadment when you have people like lambert, baptiste, webb, lightfoot, you can go on and on in terms of pioneering abolitionists, they were joined at some extent by the white abolitionists, many of them being quakers, because we William Lambert watt executed among in the quakers and arrived in detroit. He is a phenomenal individual because he was like one of the many conductors of the underground railroad. In my classes in new york city when i talk about the underground railroad, the first thing to hit their mind is the atrain, the dtrain. No. This was a process, the bywayway in which these fugitive asleeps got away prepare to the socalled peculiar institution and end up in detroit. So this here, ed dwights sculpture symbolizesizes the people after 1850 when you had the fugitive slave law. That meant that although we got the blackburn case, the blackburn affair these runway fugitives who arrived from louisville, kentucky and thought they found a safe refuge, away from the Bounty Hunter, but with the passing of the 1850 slave act, meant you had to good a little further. These people are looking across the Detroit River to windsor, and sometimes even windsor wasnt far enough. Had could team going, 401, on to chatham, ontario, toronto, and chatham would become a profound what you Call Community of abolitionists that was up there we uk nationals talk we can talk about Osmond Anderson who rode with john brown, and after the whole abolitionist beginning with William Lambert, Frederick Douglass comes to detroit and meets with john brown, theres a mark endown. Second baptist church, and st. Matthews was instrumental later on. We cannot ignore the church in this whole coming together in terms of resistance, the whole idea of selfdetermination. Was coming from a number of Church Leaders affiliate by with Abolitionist Movement but no one more profound than William Lambert. His story that would make a fascinating film, to see the kind of stuff he went through, the system he put together. They had a coding, a secret code, secreted language, they trained all these individuals on the underground railroad, in case you encountered the Bounty Hunter out there. So instructive and later on his involvement with st. Matthews church and his involvement in the educational process, working with people like fanny richards, pioneering black woman in terms of the first africanamerican to teach in the Public School system here. So we had this conjunction its going to be a collaborative situation from one generation to another. Each spurred on by the other. Taking its influence and enthusiasm for the breakthroughs occur neglect previous generation. We going to see that happening time and time again, and i this whole odyssey of black detroit. 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