I think it is great to have people with different points of view that find ways to get that done. That is what we want to talk about today. I thought it would be nice to know one aspect besides a service that is important. I will let them decide whether to claim ownership about something. One is the director of the largest youth camp in the country serving over 51,000 young people every summer. This is too easy. We already know the answers up here. They are a licensed pilot. Everybody knows that. Somebody up here has climbed Mount Kilimanjaro and completed the world ironman triathlon championship. There we go. I just found out she wont even ride the chain in the senate because she likes to walk. I guess it is pretty obvious. A local kmart to an emergency healthcare facility. Okay. It shows you into ledger will can be different but they can all come together. Here is what we want to talk about. Easy to talk about everything that goes wrong these days. What we see right now has passed the fewest legislative acts since the nixon years. And the current Approval Rating of how they are doing their job is currently at 16 of the public approval. I have told them they all media thanks because if it was not for Investment Bankers they would have no one below them. But, one of the things of the reelection rate is very, very high. So, any group that is a 16 approval and gets reelected all of the time we have to talk a little bit about what that is about. I want to compare it to the 117th session just before this one. One of the most productive legislative sessions that we have seen. Infrastructure investment. The respect for marriage act Postal Service reform act. We want to talk about how do we get from a period where we can pass a low Bipartisan Legislation to right now not being able to them lets assume that right now is not the entire future and how do we get back to where we were just a few years ago. Let me start with senator cassidy. Can you just talk about something that you have done that is bipartisan that you are proud of and you have mentioned the way to do it is through the 4 ps. Can you explain that to people. I will go back to the 116th congress where we passed the no surprises act. For those that would go to the hospital. They thought it was a network and get a 100,000 bill which happened regularly. Passing good legislation. The good policy. We started working on bipartisan basis, three republicans, three democrats for two years, three years before we actually pass the legislation. The next is to have good process good policy, good process. We went through the committee, at that time republicans have the senate, democrats had the house. There were bills on both sides being thoroughly vetted so everyone knew what was going on. So, you have the good policy, the good process, then you have tapped the good publicity. We have outside groups publishing arguments and videos. A business woman from boston just took this on. The new york times, the los angeles times, the post, you name it. All publishing articles about the kind of wrongness of surprise medical billing. We have the policy, process and publicity and that lined up the politics. It was hard to be against it at the end. Whatever your perspective because we have good policy, good process, thoroughly vetted and we had so much publicity. So much publicity. It was hard but we got it through a divided government. I like you being optimistic. You can be optimistic, but it is slow. Having to work hard to get things done that you really believe will make an impact on the public. On average, the first year after that bill passed, they prevented 1 million Surprise Medical Bills per month. And, i forget the exact number of how much it saved, but saved consumers that huge amount of money you would expect that statistic. So you were worried about impact, not politics, which is great. Oh yeah. Senator cinema, you have been involved actually with these two anothers impasse some very important legislation. Would you like to talk to us about what you are proud of, what you did . You might talk about the cost and how did you do it . What do you think is a way to get Bipartisan Legislation done . I think folks know that the Bipartisan Legislation is the core of my belief, the reason you serve in congress. To pass meaningful legislation that makes a difference in the lives of the people that you serve. I was lucky enough to lead the negotiations for the bipartisan infrastructure law. Three of the 10 senators who negotiated that are sitting on the stage right now. I was also really grateful to help get it across the finish line. The Safer Communities act which was not in your list, made the most meaningful investment in Mental Health care in our country and over a generation also reducing violence at the hands of individuals who were mentally ill with weapons. And then, marriage and religious liberty, the list is really long of those accomplishments. In each of those situations, i approached it with what i would consider practicality. First is this acknowledgment that a problem exists. That a problem needs to be solved. Second, and openness to what it looks like. Keyed to approach a problem with curiosity and interest in a solution rather than attachment to what that solution looks like that is difficult for elected officials because many people have campaigned for years and years and years on very specific policy prescriptions and outcomes. When you approach a problem with the interest of finding a solution, without a personal attachment to exactly what it looks like, you could need much more space to get to that solution. Third, i believe that when you approach a negotiating situation , the first goal should be to figure out what other people in the room need. And then try to determine to get them what they need. If you can help people in the room get what they need to get to yes, then they are much more willing to help you get what you need in order to get to yes. That is actually a real challenge in todays political environment. And involves an elected official putting their own personal interest at the back of the line and seeking to address other peoples interests first. And then i would say the fourth thing is an unwavering commitment to yes. It is so easy to walk away when the going gets tough. It is so easy to do that. Men like to do that. So [laughter] making sure that folks dont leave when the going gets tough, making sure taking a break, talking to them privately, bringing folks back to the table and saying i know we can solve this problem, it feels tractable at this moment but we can solve this problem. Being willing to keep everyone at the table within optimism towards a solution is the key. It is so much easier to go to a press conference and say i tried very hard but asked was unwilling to do the thing that needed to be done to get to the agreement. Four many people, that is more satisfying. But i, oldfashioned demo satisfied when we actually get a product and then pass it into law and change the lives of the people that we serve. I think it is those four steps together which are key to frankly not just political negotiations, that is negotiations at any setting. Dont take no for an answer. I never take no for an answer i think you told me at another time a lot of the things you worked on have been very impactful. The boat on the filibuster, i think that you told me was the toughest one or the most important one youve ever done. It was not the toughest, it was one of the easiest folks i have overtaken because i was rocksolid in my conviction of how poor the filibuster is to the longterm continuity, health and survival of the United States senate. It is the most impactful. By far the most important boat i have ever taken. Frankly, i was very disappointed that the United States senate got to a place where a knowingly failed vote on the filibuster was created for political spectacle. Because, even though it failed, joe and i, of course, stood very strong to gather to prevent the filibuster from being overturned the fact that we took cap boat, the fact that that political hitter occurred, has, in my opinion, deeply damaged the senate and it ensures that that debate will come up again and it is my concern that when that debate comes up again, the boat could go in another direction by either party. If that were to occur or as i believe when that occurs, it will damage the United States senate. The filibuster was designed to require bipartisan comity and cooperation. It was designed to force compromise. To seek those Lasting Solutions that last longer than any of our careers or lifetime spirit and, so, that is why it was not a difficult though. It is why it was the most important boat. That is great. You were facing a lot of pressure. That is where diamonds come from, alan. Youve been under the microscope a few times for things you have stood up for. I believe in the past you told me that also the filibuster was the most important. Could you go a little deeper into that as to, you know, what really the filibuster does do that senator cinema just gave us what it does accomplish and the pressures. I know it is a very important subject to you. The success that we have had is because you have for people who like each other. We know each other. No our families, no our backgrounds. If you have a friend, you do not want to put your friend in a difficult position. You want to work it out with him it is hard to say no to a friend building relationships is extremely difficult. Every one of us knows that. You have to play, really, the country has to be for it. Either our personal cell for our politics. Once you are able to decipher who was there for that purpose, you are drawn to them. You know who wants to be there and do the right thing. So, these are my friends and i appreciate all the success weve had and i appreciate all the challenges. I look at every challenge and basically we can still overcome them. The filibuster, i come from West Virginia which is proper territory. Pretty much writing the rules of the senate. He told me, ive known him forever and he said when i am governor, the most unusual place , there is nothing like it in the world. There is nothing like us. We are so special. Basically, we can put the glue to it. We can put stability to something. As hard as it may be to make something happen to find agreement with 60 votes right now, he says it is even harder to get rid of it. So the stability that we have, the rest of the world looks for leadership instability, that is what gives into a. We are both amazed that our colleagues in the democratic side left us. They were all being driven by, and we were both concerned about can we do more for Voting Rights , protect Voting Rights, this and that, but that is pretty much a state issue. We figured it would be worked out. But to throw away is, the filibuster to where it really made us say, okay, now, james and bill, what do you think. What can we do to make this happen. That would not be necessary. Whoever is in power, if you have 50 plus the president and Vice President , that is 51, you can do what you want. If you think its been dysfunctional with the house right now, we get rid of the filibuster it will be on steroids in the senate. It will be so dysfunctional. It will destroy. You have no ability to say, well , we have passed this piece of legislation and i guarantee in two years if the tide turns it will be repealed. That is what we are trying to prevent. We have done a good job of that, i believe. When you look at all the things we have done in the bipartisan way, even if some of our republican friends could not vote with us, sometimes we would differ, i still want their input tell me why. Tell me if i could have made it better. That is a conversation you have to have. Today, and ive said this out before, the political system has been weapon eyes. We are expected to be against james and bill. That they are running for reelection, we are expected, however the democrat find we are expected to write checks. It could be donald duck running against him. We have to get rid of them. Are you crazy . I left the democratic party, just a reminder. I left the party. Just want to remind everyone. When you get to washington, you have to pick a side. You know, you caucused here, you caucus there. Senator, part of what you said, i knew this was important. That is what happens. This is so important we have to get this done. They dont realize what they are doing longterm to get this done they do, really. We begged him not to do that judges. He could not get republicans that would give obama his staff, put the staff together. Harry took it into the judges. All harry had to do, god rest his soul, he and Mitch Mcconnell did not communicate. They did not seem to get along real well. I told him all you have to do is go to mitch and say, mitch, these are will and pleasure. The people that obama wants will be gone when he has gone. They dont have any longevity. Let them have that decision unless there is a criminal offense or something. Let him have his staff. They would not communicate. When you go down that path you cannot reserve reverse it. If we are both, either one of us or both of us would have said i dont think so, maybe we can fix this a little bit better, you cannot. You just cannot do that. I think ive asked anybody that comes to me i want to run for the u. S. Senate and say what you think, would you defend the filibuster. I dont care if youre democrat republican or independent. If i dont get an answer, i am not going to support you. Senator langford, lets move to this. A long period of time to do something you thought was very important. A lotta people thought was very important on Border Security. You have to spend a long time doing it. I think you got to about inside the 1 yard line. After many years. After a long time and they did not get across the goal line. Could you tell us a little bit about that . What did you have to do to get it to the 1 yard line and what did you learn from what you did with that as you think about what that taught you about going forward. Let me make a couple of comments about this. I will wrap up the comment joel just made about the filibuster. A rare moment for joe to be completely correct. On anything. Thats why i love him. [laughter] the filibuster is unique to the United States. If that blows up we blow up bipartisan conversations. It just goes away entirely. The noise that we have right now gets even higher. That does not help us as a country. The filibuster force is one place in government for people to talk to each other and that is helpful. Two of the three people that were involved in the immigration are sitting right here. We spent a large amount of time together the three of us over almost five months. Literally from the middle of october until february we worked every single day on this thanksgiving day, Christmas Day and half of new years day. Other than that, we literally worked on it every day. When we talk about trying to be able to move it, it is very technical. It is very challenging but it is also extremely political. As bill was talking about before any piece of this can have its own challenges. One of the things that i really understand even more on that is the biblical term of everything there is a season. Once we get past december and we started moving into january and february of this year and the political primary season, people started turning their attention away from policy and more and more towards politics and we lost our season. That was number one. We need to have as many people on board as we possibly can to work through this. As you are working through something extremely challenging and difficult yet people committed to getting it done. A lot of people committed to it being done but not doing it. There is a big interest in saying this needs to get behind us as a country. But actually getting engaged to be able to solve it, that is different. Especially something as technical as this. For kiersten anaya and chris murphy working through all of this, we were constantly looking for allies that wanted to actually help us get it done. That is still an ongoing challenge for us. Yesterday we had people illegally crossing the border. We probably will again today. The problem still remains. This is not going away. When it was not able to pass the senate we contacted leaders and said you guys put together a bipartisan package that can pass the house and senate in two month later they said yeah we couldnt get it done but it still needs to be done because the problem still remains and everybody sees it. What did you learn about process as you worked that hard and did not get it done. I think you always have to save yourself if i knew that id go back then. What would you have done differently if you thought about it now and you know what happens is there anything you look back and you would have done differently . A unique challenge right now trying to be able to get bipartisanship when you have about one vote party in the house and senate. We are literally equally divided cannot be any closer than that. We have to be able to get more people involved. The key thing is there is a season. We missed our window. And we wouldve gotten it done two months earlier than that we wouldve been able to move it. It was not right at that point. The text was not ready. I would have loved to have had it done in december. Voter bills are incredibly technical in alignment. I talked to my team all the time saying nothing moves faster than the senate until it does. At that moment that it moves fast you are there have to be ready because the American People are talking about it, the press is talking about it and people are saying i want to do something. If you do not have the legislation done that day, you missed your window. You have to be proactive to have everything written prepared and ready to go. In this situation, we could not do that. People just disagree. From connecticut conservatives from oklahoma dependent from arizona where ground zero every day. I would joke with chris murphy all the time. The only border he is worried about is the border with new york. It is just not a thing that they have to think about all of the time. We do in oklahoma. They do every day in arizona. When it was time to be able to move it we had to be able to have it ready. It was not ready at the moment in the moment passes. Let me say one thing. We passed a bill i